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Quanta Master (creature) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=44209.msg1009570#msg1009570
« on: October 21, 2012, 10:00:26 am »
The Quanta Master is a creature with 1/2 and Costs of 2 :underworld. I am not sure, which Element could be the best for that – you have a idea?

Ability: If you have a full hand, pay 1 :underworld and discard a card from your hand. You get the Quanta of that card costs.

I think it´s still your turn, so you can cast after this ability. So it can be a new Quanta source with a special condition. And a counter of Nigtmare for example.

Maybe a bit easier to implement could be passiv:„If you have to discard a card you gain the Quanta costs of that discarded card.“


What do you think about?
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Re: Quanta Master (creature) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=44209.msg1009742#msg1009742
« Reply #1 on: October 22, 2012, 12:25:28 am »
Don't need to have a full hand. Or you'll need an Hourglass / Sundial / Fractal / SoBre / SoSe / Golden Nymph / whatever.
A discarding is quite an impact, full hand needing is too heavy.
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Re: Quanta Master (creature) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=44209.msg1009747#msg1009747
« Reply #2 on: October 22, 2012, 12:43:28 am »
I remember discussing an idea similar to this with OT before. He felt the gains should not change based on what you discard because you don't play it. I disagree with that.

Is this balanced with something like fractal? I can fractal ruby dragons, sacrifice one to play one...etc on second thought, that's highly impractical lol
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Re: Quanta Master (creature) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=44209.msg1009753#msg1009753
« Reply #3 on: October 22, 2012, 01:44:00 am »
Quote from: furballdn on October 22, 2012, 12:43:28 am
I remember discussing an idea similar to this with OT before. He felt the gains should not change based on what you discard because you don't play it. I disagree with that.

Is this balanced with something like fractal? I can fractal ruby dragons, sacrifice one to play one...etc on second thought, that's highly impractical lol

SoSe -> Big creatures -> Discard?
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Re: Quanta Master (creature) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=44209.msg1010084#msg1010084
« Reply #4 on: October 23, 2012, 09:27:10 am »
Yes you can play ruby dragons one by one, but for casting a ruby dragon you need alot quanta, and fractal is expensive too. And you need casting this creature before. Without casting a dragon you need 2 dragon on your hand - and a full hand. That seems slowing down.
SoSe is an another option to fill your hand, but only 1 entropy, other cards are random. So you don´t know you need that quanta? I think this is not OP.
But maybe a full hand is really a too heavy - does it make sense to say "5/6 or more cards on your hand"?
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Re: Quanta Master (creature) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=44209.msg1010086#msg1010086
« Reply #5 on: October 23, 2012, 10:06:08 am »
Mindgate + This = LOL YEAH good synergy
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