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Suicidal Blow https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=48191.msg1056574#msg1056574
« on: April 03, 2013, 12:17:04 am »
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How about a 0 hp immortal creature with like 10-15 attack. Maybe 5 cost?

Designed not to be able to last more than 1 turn. Hopefully SoP doesnt work.

Thoughts?

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Re: Suicidal Blow https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=48191.msg1056577#msg1056577
« Reply #1 on: April 03, 2013, 12:22:57 am »
Well, SoP buffs immortal creatures. We know from Spark that 0 hp creatures can survive using SoP.
Thus, this would be too OP with SoP, unless you somehow got in a specific clause to make SoP not work, like an ability called "Impatient" or something.

Also, if you think about it, this is basically the same thing as a spell that does physical damage. This means that it's weaker, since the usage of Dim Shield, DR Shields, Dusk Shields, and Fog Shields eclipses the usage of Reflective and Emerald Shield. Therefore, if you wanted to balance this, you'd probably make it a bit cheaper than a spell that deals the same damage.
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Re: Suicidal Blow https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=48191.msg1056581#msg1056581
« Reply #2 on: April 03, 2013, 12:34:17 am »
Darn SoP! Maybe make this card start with -100 hp :D

Not many spells do 15 damage.

How much cheaper should it be? 3 is too little imo. 4-5 seems about right.

Could increase damage I guess or make it deal spell damage. Or include an effect where it dies after 1 turn.
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Re: Suicidal Blow https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=48191.msg1056582#msg1056582
« Reply #3 on: April 03, 2013, 12:36:33 am »
Darn SoP! Maybe make this card start with -100 hp :D

Not many spells do 15 damage.

How much cheaper should it be? 3 is too little imo. 4-5 seems about right.

Could increase damage I guess or make it deal spell damage. Or include an effect where it dies after 1 turn.

Why don't you just make it a spell?

The term "Suicidal Blow" doesn't really sound like a creature to me anyway.

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Re: Suicidal Blow https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=48191.msg1056584#msg1056584
« Reply #4 on: April 03, 2013, 12:43:30 am »
Yeah it was a quick BS name :P effect is all that matters to me.

Making it a spell makes it weaker sorta. Has synnergies with death atm and I think it probably should be influenced by shields in some way and sundial.


A spell that does 15 damage isnt worth posting as an idea anyway :P
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Re: Suicidal Blow https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=48191.msg1056624#msg1056624
« Reply #5 on: April 03, 2013, 03:54:55 am »
How about, Giant Lemming? It starts with -2 HP?
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Re: Suicidal Blow https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=48191.msg1056643#msg1056643
« Reply #6 on: April 03, 2013, 05:49:26 am »
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Re: Suicidal Blow https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=48191.msg1056676#msg1056676
« Reply #7 on: April 03, 2013, 09:25:17 am »
it could start with 0 hp or more if its text said "when this creature attacks, it dies at end of turn" or something like that (wich actually makes sense, given the name)

this would enable some synergy with SoP without really abusing it

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Re: Suicidal Blow https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=48191.msg1057444#msg1057444
« Reply #8 on: April 06, 2013, 12:51:27 am »
it could start with 0 hp or more if its text said "when this creature attacks, it dies at end of turn" or something like that (wich actually makes sense, given the name)

this would enable some synergy with SoP without really abusing it

that could work.

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