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Root of life/Root of life [justice may be served] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=52996.msg1117152#msg1117152
« on: December 24, 2013, 05:29:46 pm »
Ive been playing Etg for about 2 and a half months now and been on the forum for 2 months. As many may know, the element life hasnt got the love that many other elements have. I suggest that our fellow cardbuilders make a super rare life card. This is my idea.

NAME:
Root of life
ELEMENT:
Life
COST:
5
TYPE:
Creature
ATK|HP:
2/4
TEXT:
When Root of life enters the game, all permanents return to the owner's deck.
NAME:
Root of life
ELEMENT:
Life
COST:
5
TYPE:
Creature
ATK|HP:
3/6
TEXT:
When Root of life enters the game, all permanents return to the owner's deck.

The art is not made by me. Internet took care of that. The main reason Ive made this card is on top of the post. Now my justification of the skill. Life has no PC neither does CC. With heal and bonds life deals with the CC but if permanents(dim shield, fire shield and others) are against life any kind of deck will probably lose. Of course thats why we dont see Life anywhere . Perhaps this card is OP perhaps its not but I want to motivate you so that elements like life will be as strong as others.

Of course all ideas are welcome, after all Ive made the card just for the fuss.  8)
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Re: Root of life/Root of life [justice may be served] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=52996.msg1117158#msg1117158
« Reply #1 on: December 24, 2013, 05:55:00 pm »
first of all, thorn carparace gives :life CC.

This card fits better as a spell.

Without this being a spell: Ray of Light + leaf dragon + Root of Life + mitosis.
enables you to send back all permanents every turn. Which is essentially a mass-eternity for permanents.

Even if that costs too much:
you can completely deny both players from playing anything, giving the win to the one with the most damage.

Also, I'm going to have a neverending Dim shield chain with this.

I have no idea how to bypass these points. If they are significant enough.

EDIT: how about only allowing to remove 1 permanent from each stack?
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Re: Root of life/Root of life [justice may be served] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=52996.msg1117161#msg1117161
« Reply #2 on: December 24, 2013, 06:11:42 pm »
Of course thats why we dont see Life anywhere
Life had been topping platinum for a little while :/
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Re: Root of life/Root of life [justice may be served] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=52996.msg1117183#msg1117183
« Reply #3 on: December 24, 2013, 08:03:12 pm »
@dragtom there are many mistakes with the card. I like your idea. Perhaps it could be a spell. And about the neverending dim shield, perhaps the player with the card need only one turn of attack to win the match. anyway, the whole point is the life definately needs some boosting and it could be achieved with the addition of a super rare card.

@Cool Porygon Wasnt there so I cant tell. But Im telling from what I experience now.
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Re: Root of life/Root of life [justice may be served] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=52996.msg1117188#msg1117188
« Reply #4 on: December 24, 2013, 08:28:02 pm »
If this is about dim shield issues, there's a post in the nerf dim shield thread pointing out that a large issue is that many counters are rare only. So ideas for solving the dim shield problem without nerfing it (ie by adding cards) shouldn't be "super rare cards"

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Re: Root of life/Root of life [justice may be served] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=52996.msg1117196#msg1117196
« Reply #5 on: December 24, 2013, 09:23:12 pm »
@serpex No its not about dim shields. Its about adding a card to Life so that it will be as strong as other elements. And I suggest it should be a rare card that could somehow deal with shields so that Life has strong mono decks as most elements have.
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Re: Root of life/Root of life [justice may be served] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=52996.msg1117202#msg1117202
« Reply #6 on: December 24, 2013, 10:08:45 pm »
Life does have a strong mono deck. It's quite packed with healing and can get you EM easily.

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If Life gets pc, wouldn't you say it will be a bit overpowered? Life can net you EMs easily, has cc (em shield), great attacks (frogs on adrenaline), and don't forget em dragons that can mitosis. I get your idea of making some sort of a passive pc that is different from steal and deflag and works thematically with Life.

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Re: Root of life/Root of life [justice may be served] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=52996.msg1117217#msg1117217
« Reply #7 on: December 25, 2013, 01:24:33 am »
@Cool Porygon Wasnt there so I cant tell. But Im telling from what I experience now.
It was about 2 weeks ago...
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Re: Root of life/Root of life [justice may be served] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=52996.msg1117247#msg1117247
« Reply #8 on: December 25, 2013, 08:10:23 am »
@EmeraldDagger Think of decks like: pestal, Rol/hope , pdial , VDB , mono aether life obviously lacks of PC and CC. About the mono you linked, if it hasnt won in like 4 turns then it has huge problems against well organised decks.

@CoolPorygon 2 weeks ago life topped plat? Really cant recall that. Anyway if you find yourself looking at the leaderboard of gold you will see the first life mark in 38th place(1st is also life mark but its an air rush with queens). About plat yu will see the first life mark in 26th place.

My point is that not only is life as strong as other elements but most players doesnt even bother playing life decks. Hope you agree on some of those points so we can figure this out. :D
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Re: Root of life/Root of life [justice may be served] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=52996.msg1117258#msg1117258
« Reply #9 on: December 25, 2013, 09:48:58 am »
I like it as an idea, though I think that it's very radical for a single card to have such massive PC powers. Considering the card's main idea I agree with dragtom that it would be better if it was a spell rather than a creature. More than that, I also believe that this card should have several restrictions when used during a game i.e. some kind of cooldown. Btw, the artwork is pretty cool! Where did you find it?
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Re: Root of life/Root of life [justice may be served] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=52996.msg1117265#msg1117265
« Reply #10 on: December 25, 2013, 12:44:05 pm »
just googled root and it was some pages down xd I remind that its not mine. Nireus I also agree with all of you, I just want to point out the lack of PC of Life and a rare card . So I just want to trigger some responses so that our fellow elementalist put pressure so that justice will be served in misunderstood elements like life  ;)
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Re: Root of life/Root of life [justice may be served] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=52996.msg1117293#msg1117293
« Reply #11 on: December 25, 2013, 07:35:04 pm »
I don't think it should be return all permanents, maybe all permanents, excluding pillars. Or maybe just return all pillars because ALL permanents is a LOT of PC. This would probably be the biggest PC card out there.
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