*Author

Offline storytellerTopic starter

  • Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 930
  • Country: us
  • Reputation Power: 16
  • storyteller is a Blue Crawler starting to think about his first run.storyteller is a Blue Crawler starting to think about his first run.storyteller is a Blue Crawler starting to think about his first run.
  • a very old soul
Alteration | Greater Alteration https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=50671.msg1091467#msg1091467
« on: August 09, 2013, 05:13:18 am »
 :entropy 3 (2)
Spell
all copies of target card change their element within its owners deck,
if the casting player targets themselves, the next spell cast is targeted instead.

so, its worthless vs rainbow, very powerful vs mono

Offline Nepycros

  • Legendary Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 2571
  • Reputation Power: 32
  • Nepycros is a Ghost, obsessed with their Elemental pursuits.Nepycros is a Ghost, obsessed with their Elemental pursuits.Nepycros is a Ghost, obsessed with their Elemental pursuits.Nepycros is a Ghost, obsessed with their Elemental pursuits.Nepycros is a Ghost, obsessed with their Elemental pursuits.Nepycros is a Ghost, obsessed with their Elemental pursuits.
  • My creativity was OP, so I had to nerf it.
Re: Alteration | Greater Alteration https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=50671.msg1091468#msg1091468
« Reply #1 on: August 09, 2013, 05:20:57 am »
Scary. Targeting a pillar makes them relatively quanta-less.
Perception is the source of misunderstanding.

Why, yes. I do have a Mindgate necklace. It's how I ninja everyone.

Offline storytellerTopic starter

  • Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 930
  • Country: us
  • Reputation Power: 16
  • storyteller is a Blue Crawler starting to think about his first run.storyteller is a Blue Crawler starting to think about his first run.storyteller is a Blue Crawler starting to think about his first run.
  • a very old soul
Re: Alteration | Greater Alteration https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=50671.msg1091471#msg1091471
« Reply #2 on: August 09, 2013, 05:28:22 am »
yes, though the card in ply does not change. pendulums would still grant for the mark, so there are some methods of avoidance, same as vs erosion. ShoRe offers some mitigation of its effects at times. But yes, scary.

Offline Nepycros

  • Legendary Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 2571
  • Reputation Power: 32
  • Nepycros is a Ghost, obsessed with their Elemental pursuits.Nepycros is a Ghost, obsessed with their Elemental pursuits.Nepycros is a Ghost, obsessed with their Elemental pursuits.Nepycros is a Ghost, obsessed with their Elemental pursuits.Nepycros is a Ghost, obsessed with their Elemental pursuits.Nepycros is a Ghost, obsessed with their Elemental pursuits.
  • My creativity was OP, so I had to nerf it.
Re: Alteration | Greater Alteration https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=50671.msg1091472#msg1091472
« Reply #3 on: August 09, 2013, 05:30:13 am »
yes, though the card in ply does not change. pendulums would still grant for the mark, so there are some methods of avoidance, same as vs erosion. ShoRe offers some mitigation of its effects at times. But yes, scary.

And overpowered. In the early game it ends the opponent's strategy.
Perception is the source of misunderstanding.

Why, yes. I do have a Mindgate necklace. It's how I ninja everyone.

Offline storytellerTopic starter

  • Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 930
  • Country: us
  • Reputation Power: 16
  • storyteller is a Blue Crawler starting to think about his first run.storyteller is a Blue Crawler starting to think about his first run.storyteller is a Blue Crawler starting to think about his first run.
  • a very old soul
Re: Alteration | Greater Alteration https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=50671.msg1091474#msg1091474
« Reply #4 on: August 09, 2013, 05:44:28 am »
so a higher cost is in order to prevent early use of the card then? say... 5(4) ?
or should it simply not target pillars?
that seems arbitrary.

Offline Nepycros

  • Legendary Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 2571
  • Reputation Power: 32
  • Nepycros is a Ghost, obsessed with their Elemental pursuits.Nepycros is a Ghost, obsessed with their Elemental pursuits.Nepycros is a Ghost, obsessed with their Elemental pursuits.Nepycros is a Ghost, obsessed with their Elemental pursuits.Nepycros is a Ghost, obsessed with their Elemental pursuits.Nepycros is a Ghost, obsessed with their Elemental pursuits.
  • My creativity was OP, so I had to nerf it.
Re: Alteration | Greater Alteration https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=50671.msg1091475#msg1091475
« Reply #5 on: August 09, 2013, 05:45:07 am »
so a higher cost is in order to prevent early use of the card then? say... 5(4) ?
or should it simply not target pillars?
that seems arbitrary.

Now that I think of it, does changing the element of a pillar change its effect, or just the color of the background? :P
Perception is the source of misunderstanding.

Why, yes. I do have a Mindgate necklace. It's how I ninja everyone.

Offline Keolino

  • Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 553
  • Reputation Power: 6
  • Keolino is a Spark waiting for a buff.
  • +/Gl!it)c?h%§"#
Re: Alteration | Greater Alteration https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=50671.msg1091491#msg1091491
« Reply #6 on: August 09, 2013, 08:06:46 am »
Just make it change the ability of the background!

Like, The effect of a scarab wouldn´t change the element either, just because the element of the card/ quanta cost and colour is changed.

That way, it would be a little easier to balance. That aside, it should 1. use up all Entropy quanta (so that you can use it only once per turn), and maybe increasing the cost to six...

But first, we should think about combinations, that this card can be played with. Then we can tell how powerful it may or may not be.

(Against a Firefly of Pharao deck: The opponent plays the first one, you use Alteration and then kill the pharao/queen. Now he has lost the game)
What's the speed of dark?

Offline storytellerTopic starter

  • Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 930
  • Country: us
  • Reputation Power: 16
  • storyteller is a Blue Crawler starting to think about his first run.storyteller is a Blue Crawler starting to think about his first run.storyteller is a Blue Crawler starting to think about his first run.
  • a very old soul
Re: Alteration | Greater Alteration https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=50671.msg1092277#msg1092277
« Reply #7 on: August 13, 2013, 01:28:46 am »
to sum it up, it changes the casting cost to a new element.
Pillars and such might actually change what they do.
A Pharaoh targeted might change to say 'Life'.
All other Pharaohs cast would cost 9 :life
They would still use 2  :time to create a Scarab.

Offline Keolino

  • Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 553
  • Reputation Power: 6
  • Keolino is a Spark waiting for a buff.
  • +/Gl!it)c?h%§"#
Re: Alteration | Greater Alteration https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=50671.msg1092291#msg1092291
« Reply #8 on: August 13, 2013, 06:03:30 am »
But i still don´t know if it´s a good idea to make it possible for a dimensional shield chain to be completely canceled out with a 3! Quanta card.

That aside, this card can counter EACH strategy that bases on a single creature card (aside from Grabroid and Imortals) You shouldn´t be able to damage the opponents strategy so heavily with a single 3 Quanta card.

In combination with earthquake, the opponent has lost if he plays a mono deck. (All pillars changed, than all pillars he has out are destoyed. Finished)
What's the speed of dark?

Offline storytellerTopic starter

  • Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 930
  • Country: us
  • Reputation Power: 16
  • storyteller is a Blue Crawler starting to think about his first run.storyteller is a Blue Crawler starting to think about his first run.storyteller is a Blue Crawler starting to think about his first run.
  • a very old soul
Re: Alteration | Greater Alteration https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=50671.msg1092440#msg1092440
« Reply #9 on: August 14, 2013, 03:43:19 am »
you can do almost as bad with other cards

Erosion Earthquake
Shard of Focus
Lobotomizer

so, potential is there. Now as for costing 3 quanta, it may be too weak.

What if it was 5-6?

also, you can negate a dim shield chain with a simple momentum.

 

anything
blarg: