Qualia

[Pineapple]

Current Stage: Phase I - Form - Brainstorming

We have quanta, which take the form of numbers, that quantify our resources.
What should we have for qualia?
I hope for this to be a community project. Anyone is welcome to spitball ideas during the brainstorming process, with voting used to determine the final decision for the term "Qualia."

Phase I - Form:
Think about how quanta is displayed in the game. What should the distinct levels of qualia be, and why?

Examples:
1 for each Element, with no distinct differences between Elements.
1 for each Element, with themes tying into their respective Elements.
Levels defined by Boolean states (true/false)
Levels defined by more than 2 distinct states (very low, low, medium, high, very high; negative, neutral, positive)
Levels defined by distinct natural numbers (0, 1, 2,...)

Phase II - Subject:
Think about what quanta represents in the game. What should qualia represent, and why?

Examples:
Cost (alternate)
Offense (creature attack, direct damage, etc.)
Defense (damage negation, healing, etc.)

Phase III - Mechanic:
Think about quantum mechanics. How should we be able to manipulate qualia, and how should it affect the game?

Examples:
Unlimited free-cost every-turn qualia generation (i.e. pillars)
Generated solely through secondary effects of cards that cost quanta
Specific offensive use (i.e. generating Fire qualia in any way damages the opponent)
Specific defensive use (i.e. generating Light qualia in any way heals you)

[playeralex]

uh, what is Qualia?  ???

[Pineapple]

uh, what is Qualia?  ???

That is the question that we intend to answer in this thread.

Quanta is a qualifier for an object. 1 apples, 2 oranges, etc...
In the game, 1 fire quanta means you can activate cards that cost 1 fire quanta by removing 1 fire quanta.

Qualia is a property of an object not inherent in the object. The redness of an apple, the ripeness of an orange, etc...
What do you think qualia should mean if implemented into the game, and why should we agree with you?

[OldTrees]

uh, what is Qualia?  ???

Qualia ( /ˈkwɑːliə/ or /ˈkweɪliə/), singular "quale" (Latin pronunciation: [ˈkwaːle]), from a Latin word meaning for "what sort" or "what kind," is a term used in philosophy to refer to subjective conscious experiences as 'raw feels'. Examples of qualia are the pain of a headache, the taste of wine, the experience of taking a recreational drug, or the perceived redness of an evening sky. Daniel Dennett writes that qualia is "an unfamiliar term for something that could not be more familiar to each of us: the ways things seem to us."[1] Erwin Schrödinger, the famous physicist, had this counter-materialist take: "The sensation of colour cannot be accounted for by the physicist's objective picture of light-waves. Could the physiologist account for it, if he had fuller knowledge than he has of the processes in the retina and the nervous processes set up by them in the optical nerve bundles and in the brain? I do not think so." [2]
The importance of qualia in philosophy of mind comes largely from the fact that they are seen as posing a fundamental problem for materialist explanations of the mind-body problem. Much of the debate over their importance hinges on the definition of the term that is used, as various philosophers emphasize or deny the existence of certain features of qualia.

In physics, a quantum (plural: quanta) is the minimum amount of any physical entity involved in an interaction. Behind this, one finds the fundamental notion that a physical property may be "quantized," referred to as "the hypothesis of quantization".[1] This means that the magnitude can take on only certain discrete values. There is a related term of quantum number. An example of an entity that is quantized is the energy transfer of elementary particles of matter (called fermions) and of photons and other bosons.[clarification needed]

Quale and Quanta do not exist in isolation. In EtG we produce quantum of elemental energy. Quanta is a unit by which we measure energy stored in our pools. The consciousness of minds (like Elementals) have subjective perceptions of things (like elemental energy). Each raw perception is a qualia.

Therefore Quale must be and already is in the minds of the players.

[Pineapple]

Quale and Quanta do not exist in isolation. In EtG we produce quantum of elemental energy. Quanta is a unit by which we measure energy stored in our pools. The consciousness of minds (like Elementals) have subjective perceptions of things (like elemental energy). Each raw perception is a qualia.

Therefore Quale must be and already is in the minds of the players.

Elemental energy is quantifiable in terms of quanta.
That doesn't mean that "raw perception", although already in the minds of the players, can't be referenced and evaluated in card texts in terms of qualia.
I'm pretty sure the ability to count must be and already is in the minds of players..

[OldTrees]

Quale and Quanta do not exist in isolation. In EtG we produce quantum of elemental energy. Quanta is a unit by which we measure energy stored in our pools. The consciousness of minds (like Elementals) have subjective perceptions of things (like elemental energy). Each raw perception is a qualia.

Therefore Quale must be and already is in the minds of the players.

Elemental energy is quantifiable in terms of quanta. Aka quanta is a unit of measurement like meter, second or gram.
That doesn't mean that "raw perception", although already in the minds of the players, can't be referenced and evaluated in card texts in terms of qualia.
I'm pretty sure the ability to count must be and already is in the minds of players..

The ability to count is in the minds of the players but quanta, like gram, describes a characteristic of the object (energy) not of the perception.
Qualia is a characteristic of the perception.

If no player was present, elemental energy would have quanta but not qualia.

[Pineapple]

I am not suggesting that we define the qualia of elemental energy but create something that is, as elemental energy  is measured with quanta, described by qualia. We need not use the definition of qualia in the texts of Dennet, the definition of qualia in the English dictionary, or the definition of the Latin word "qualia", as I doubt the term "quanta" as used in Elements adheres to all the categories associated with its meaning. Qualia is just a theme.

[OldTrees]

I am not suggesting that we define the qualia of elemental energy but create something that is, as elemental energy  is measured with quanta, described by qualia. We need not use the definition of qualia in the texts of Dennet, the definition of qualia in the English dictionary, or the definition of the Latin word "qualia", as I doubt the term "quanta" as used in Elements adheres to all the categories associated with its meaning. Qualia is just a theme.

1) The pattern I described with elemental energy can be generalized.
2) Quanta as used in Elements strictly adheres to the common definition with the inclusion of magical elemental energy in addition to mundane types of energy.
3) Qualia as a theme would also have to be based on its namesake. The subjective nature is a vital part of its namesake.