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Need help reworking a card - Bacon Lure https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=43129.msg537441#msg537441
« on: August 30, 2012, 01:51:16 am »
Ok, I originally made this as a joke card for the Humor section, but after thinking about it a second, I realized it could make an interesting addition if made into a real card:

The idea is a creature that pulls in other creatures attacks (taking the damage from it in the process) but will spread any negative (or positive) debuffs it has on it to creatures that attack.
E.g. if it is poisoned, the card that attacks it gets some or all the poison, if it is frozen, the target gets frozen
(to use freeze / delay, you would activate the ability then freeze or delay it... BB would be good here)
I need to figure out
1) What element would be good for it
2) What can I do to make ability a little more useful.
-Should it target more than 1 creature?
-Should it spread all debuffs automatically, or just have a chance for each one to spread
-Should the debuffs / statuses be removed afterward?

... In the meantime... this card has to go into the humor... I just have to share :D
« Last Edit: August 30, 2012, 01:55:29 am by OdinVanguard »
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Re: Need help reworking a card - Bacon Lure https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=43129.msg537487#msg537487
« Reply #1 on: August 30, 2012, 03:29:36 am »
So it's part Voodoo and reminds me of a suggested Gravity Pull buff.

I'm not sure how useful it would be. You have to keep adding statuses to it every turn to make use of it every turn.
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Re: Need help reworking a card - Bacon Lure https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=43129.msg537488#msg537488
« Reply #2 on: August 30, 2012, 03:30:37 am »
Maybe simplify it to Bait | Lure ?

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Re: Need help reworking a card - Bacon Lure https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=43129.msg537497#msg537497
« Reply #3 on: August 30, 2012, 03:53:57 am »
Leave the effect as is, but make the card multi-target and make it activate once played; every enemy monster that attacks once it's played will be affected.

This card could be the new balanced shard of focus. It even fits better thematically, since the monsters are all "focusing" on the shard.  Double the card's health if using gravity as its elemental buff, allowing more monsters to hit it.

It would  simultaneously nerf SoF's current form, it would provide gravity (and other elements, to a lesser extent) to reasonable CC, and it would indirectly buff death, and water, all elements which are considered weak (mass freezing, poisoning, and aflatoxin).
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Re: Need help reworking a card - Bacon Lure https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=43129.msg537508#msg537508
« Reply #4 on: August 30, 2012, 04:19:08 am »
Ooh... I like that idea.

*So maybe something like this:
"Ignores debuff effects.
Vortex: Does not attack, but may redirect enemy attacks to self, spreading all debuffs. "

So unlike gravity pull, creatures have a high, but not 100% chance to get pulled to it. The chance could be based on proximity (e.g. closer creatures are more likely to get lured... just like a real bait trap)

*Alternatively, it could make use of the gravity pull mechanic:
"Does not attack, but ignores debuffs and spreads them to enemies that damage it.
Has gravity pull when created."

Which of those seems better?
« Last Edit: August 30, 2012, 06:41:14 am by OdinVanguard »
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