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Memories | Reminesence https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=56712.msg1167252#msg1167252
« on: November 21, 2014, 01:28:32 am »
Memories | Reminesence

As the title states I thought about decks we don't have in Elements. I found that we don't have deck-out decks. We have stalls which is similiar but not in the same sense.. I wish we had a deck that would destroy your opponents deck before he plays anything essentialy. That being said.. there isn't a card that does such thing. After a few minutes of thinking.. i thought it definetly should be in time, because time deals with things like this. Furthermore, as a counter balance i think it needs to destroy some of your cards as well.. similar to SoB or SoSac. Further down there are some more details regarding the card and deck idea.

Hit me with your ideas, I will post the card itself soon. so let me guys know what you think. It's a genreal concept I haven't encountered in Elements so far, and I think it would be very fun to play a deck like this.

Possible Duos/Trios:
 :fire Fire - SoB, could make your opponents draw even more card while you get yours faster.
 :light Light - possible because of their great defensive capabilities.
 :aether Aether - again, great defense and control.

Side notes/Nerfs/Buffs:
- the first idea was way OP and therefore was removed
- the card is fairly balanced, but still not entierly sure about the cost
- I like this "double edged sword" mentality, because milling is very powerfull



Version I
Spoiler for Hidden:
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NAME:
Memories
ELEMENT:
Time
COST:
10 :time
TYPE:
Spell
ATK|HP:

TEXT:
Remove 5 cards from your opponents deck from the game.  All of the remaining :time  quanta is consumed.
NAME:
Reminesence
ELEMENT:
Time
COST:
10 :time
TYPE:
Spell
ATK|HP:

TEXT:
Remove 5 cards from your opponents deck from the game.  Half of the remaining :time quanta is consumed.

ART:

IDEA:
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NOTES:
just a conceptual art for what could become a great card in the future, if it balances out etc.
SERIES:


Version II (I think this one is more balanced)
Spoiler for Hidden:
NAME:
Memories
ELEMENT:
Time
COST:
10 :time
TYPE:
Spell
ATK|HP:

TEXT:
Remove the top 5 cards from your opponents and the top 3 cards from your deck from the game.
NAME:
Reminesence
ELEMENT:
Time
COST:
8 :time
TYPE:
Spell
ATK|HP:

TEXT:
Remove the top 5 cards from your opponents and the top 2 cards from your deck from the game.

ART:

IDEA:

NOTES:

SERIES:

« Last Edit: November 21, 2014, 04:16:57 pm by qatzki »
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Re: Time Shift - NEW TIME CARD. https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=56712.msg1167257#msg1167257
« Reply #1 on: November 21, 2014, 02:07:40 am »
Deck out cards are extremely and inherently powerful in elements.

It's basically 20 HP.

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Re: Time Shift - NEW TIME CARD. https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=56712.msg1167259#msg1167259
« Reply #2 on: November 21, 2014, 02:13:35 am »
well in oetg we have Yoink and Burn cards, cards that can steal a card from the opponent's hand and destroy a card from the opponent's hand. They are pretty balanced, but destroying 10 with a single card is extremely overpowered
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Re: Memories - NEW TIME CARD. https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=56712.msg1167281#msg1167281
« Reply #3 on: November 21, 2014, 07:05:13 am »
1: Welcome to the forums. You should leave a post here so that others can welcome you as well
(I know you signed up way earlier, but this is your first post, so go ahead)
2: I take it some balancing has already happened, as previous comments mention 10 cards removed but the card says 5

While  :time isn't so great when it comes to quanta generation, so draining all/half of available quanta is indeed a big price, maybe even 5 cards desytroyed is too much.
Perhaps only 3 cards for a cost of 15 :time?
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Re: Time Shift - NEW TIME CARD. https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=56712.msg1167285#msg1167285
« Reply #4 on: November 21, 2014, 07:22:27 am »
Deck out cards are extremely and inherently powerful in elements.

It's basically 20 HP.
Making hefty decks viable? We can't have that, can we. I am in support of mill cards being added that would make people think twice before making superslim decks.
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Re: Memories - NEW TIME CARD. https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=56712.msg1167288#msg1167288
« Reply #5 on: November 21, 2014, 07:35:49 am »
I'm in favour of mill.
I'm not in favour of cards that gut, draw and quarter said superslim decks.

This card was quite gutting last time I saw it.
Now, it's ... Acceptable.

We have to be careful, is my point.

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Re: Memories - NEW TIME CARD. https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=56712.msg1167289#msg1167289
« Reply #6 on: November 21, 2014, 07:36:23 am »
I'm in favour of mill.
I'm not in favour of cards that gut, draw and quarter said superslim decks.

This card was quite gutting last time I saw it.
Now, it's ... Acceptable.

We have to be careful, is my point.
Like with any card.
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Re: Memories - NEW TIME CARD. https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=56712.msg1167311#msg1167311
« Reply #7 on: November 21, 2014, 10:20:14 am »
6 turn kill for forty quanta that requires a specific 6 cards in hand that doesnt even work on any deck above 40 or so cards? meh.
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Re: Memories - NEW TIME CARD. https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=56712.msg1167325#msg1167325
« Reply #8 on: November 21, 2014, 12:55:42 pm »
6 turn kill for forty quanta that requires a specific 6 cards in hand that doesnt even work on any deck above 40 or so cards? meh.

It's not about the insta kill from this card. It's the idea of milling your opponents. With those 60+ card decks, if you could reduce it some how and make them miss their key cards you can win a game.
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