Martyr | Martyr

[Jappert]

NAME: Martyr ELEMENT: Light COST: 3 TYPE: Permanent ATK|HP: TEXT: Prevents any crature from dying. Lasts 1 turn.	NAME: Martyr ELEMENT: Light COST: 4 TYPE: Permanent ATK|HP: TEXT: Prevents any crature from dying. Lasts 2 turns.

ART: No art yet. IDEA: Jappert NOTES: Used to counter Bonewall, Fireshield and/or Immolation. Counters CC in general. SERIES:

Current problems:
- If Immolation is cast first turn, this can hardly be called a counter.
- No final decision yet to make this a permanent or a creature (creature would make more sense when it has the name Martyr, but will it have 0 HP?)
- No art yet, wich is not that big a deal. Same goes for the final name
- Haven't decided on an Element yet. and seem most likely.
- No balance yet in terms of cost and duration.

[Rutarete]

If it prevents them from dieing, then what happens in a case where it would die?

[Aves]

Probably remaining at x|0 until martyr disappears.
As for immolation, perhaps it simply wouldn't work? Like using the hourglass while your hand is full.

[Jappert]

Creatures would stay at 0 HP and die the turn after Martyr leaves play.

Immolation would work, but the creature won't die and remains at 0 HP, your Immolation card is wasted!

[Aves]

What happens if you use immo with martyr in play for 2 turns, and then you plate armor it, and then it gets killed by a lightning after martyr leaves? Or, what happens when you use immo and then defrag martyr?

[Jappert]

- Plate Armor could potentionally save a crature from dying yes.
- Lightning could kill a creature, I don;t understand your question...
- The effect lasts for the turn, just like sanctuary. So if you deflag martyr it's effect will end the turn after.

[Aves]

Well, if the immolation effect depends on the creature's death, would it still occur if the creature dies? That was what I was trying to get at.

[Jappert]

Well, if the immolation effect depends on the creature's death, would it still occur if the creature dies? That was what I was trying to get at.

Immolation would work, but the creature won't die and remains at 0 HP, your Immolation card is wasted!

That means no, Immolation would give no quanta when Martyr is in play, the creature has to die for that. Else it wouldn't be a counter at all would it?

Personally I don't know if the 4 (upped) cost is good. This would prevent Martyr from being played in an upped environment even, and the card itself doesn;t have THAT much uses, especially early in the game. Maybe make em both a bit cheaper and make it both 1 turn or so...?

[Skullgasm]

It sounds like your not saving creatures so much as you are just delaying their death. Feels a bit more like a time card to me.

[OldTrees]

Include in the Notes exactly how this card would function. Include notes about specific timing.

[furballdn]

The first thing that jumps into my mind as a combo for this card is fractal sparks. Letting them live an extra turn=more damage.

[Skullgasm]

Fractal strikes again!