Holtzman Shield | Holtzman Shield

[darkrobe]

NAME: Holtzman Shield ELEMENT: Gravity COST: 5  TYPE: Permanent ATK|HP: TEXT: Shield: Only slowed creatures or weapons can attack you. Lasts 4 turns.	NAME: Holtzman Shield ELEMENT: Gravity COST: 4  TYPE: Permanent ATK|HP: TEXT: Shield: Only delayed creatures or weapons can attack you. Lasts 4 turns.

ART: Darkrobe. although better art suggestions would be appreciated IDEA: Darkrobe (with input from Naesala) NOTES: For those who are unfamiliar, the holtzman shield is from the book DUNE and is described as follows: SHIELD, DEFENSIVE: the protective field produced by a Holtzman generator. This field derives from Phase One of the suspensor-nullification effect. A shield will permit entry only to objects moving at slow speeds (depending on setting, this speed ranges from six to nine centimeters per second) and can be shorted out only by a shire-sized electric field. So in my imagination this card is the elements equivalent. A shield that only allows "slow" creatures and weapons to attack you for 4 turns. What does this mean? It means that any of your opponent's creatures (or weapon) that have been stalled, frozen, timebubbled, guard-ed, basilisk blood-ed, sundial-ed,, etc.  attack as if they were not stalled/slowed at all. And any creatures (or weapon) that are not affected by one of these effects do not attack this turn. What does that mean in gameplay and what is it comparable to? You can think of this card as the "Wings" of gravity. a shield with defensive power somewhere between dimensional shield and wings. You play this card and for 4 turns, delayed creatures attack normally, and all other creatures act as if they are under the effect of a sundial. (for those of you that are wondering, this card will protect you from momentum-ed creatures because the shield is not blocking their damage, it is stopping creatures from attacking if they are not slow.) Suggested counters: having vanadium warden guard your own creatures. having arctic octopus freeze your own creatures. Sundial to allow all your creatures to attack Counters to the counters: Shockwave to destroy frozen creatures. SERIES:

[Naesala]

acceleration/overdrive, dive, skyblitz, adrenaline, momentum?, perhaps catapult flung monsters.

[darkrobe]

acceleration/overdrive, dive, skyblitz, adrenaline, momentum?, perhaps catapult flung monsters.

yes exactly. i was thinking along those lines. would a shield blocking attacks made with those buffs be an interesting idea? and what element is this? i hate to go straight to gravity.

[furballdn]

Maybe creatures with less than 3hp? I assume if they're smaller, they move faster. Maybe like a reverse weight shield.

[Naesala]

types for this shield:
Gravity: Duh. Fits pretty much perfectly
Air: the description says it sets up a field and electricity sort of works with air.
Aether: Like air, but bit better.
Entropy: like air, but worse

[darkrobe]

I was sleeping on it. What about a shield that controls the amount of ramp up in damage.

like: if the damage potential (that part of your health bar in yellow) increases by more than 10 (or some number) since your opponents last attack, their creatures do not attack during that turn. (like a situational sundial)

or more OP in my opinion:  Damage opponent does this turn above and beyond the damage he did last turn + 10 is ignored.

it would be a shield that specifically gaurds against a fast rush. only slower ramps up in damage are tollerated by the shield.

[Naesala]

I was sleeping on it. What about a shield that controls the amount of ramp up in damage.

like: if the damage potential (that part of your health bar in yellow) increases by more than 10 (or some number) since your opponents last attack, their creatures do not attack during that turn. (like a situational sundial)

or more OP in my opinion:  Damage opponent does this turn above and beyond the damage he did last turn + 10 is ignored.

it would be a shield that specifically gaurds against a fast rush. only slower ramps up in damage are tollerated by the shield.

Although this does combat "speedy" decks, it isnt actually combating speedy monsters, which is what you said this shield was supposed to do. It would instead stop growing monsters or more monsters. Not to say the idea is bad or anything, it just doesnt match what you said the shield did.

[darkrobe]

I was sleeping on it. What about a shield that controls the amount of ramp up in damage.

like: if the damage potential (that part of your health bar in yellow) increases by more than 10 (or some number) since your opponents last attack, their creatures do not attack during that turn. (like a situational sundial)

or more OP in my opinion:  Damage opponent does this turn above and beyond the damage he did last turn + 10 is ignored.

it would be a shield that specifically gaurds against a fast rush. only slower ramps up in damage are tollerated by the shield.

Although this does combat "speedy" decks, it isnt actually combating speedy monsters, which is what you said this shield was supposed to do. It would instead stop growing monsters or more monsters. Not to say the idea is bad or anything, it just doesnt match what you said the shield did.

actually Im throwing out two possible alternative interpretations of a speedy attack (one which is monster based and one which is damaged based). i havent quite decided which one is better. some sortof mixed combo of the two is also a possibility.

[Naesala]

Here's an interesting twist: Opponent creatures that are delayed attack as normal, and non delayed monsters cannot attack. lasts 4 turns.

[darkrobe]

Here's an interesting twist: Opponent creatures that are delayed attack as normal, and non delayed monsters cannot attack. lasts 4 turns.

haha, see this is why i post in the pre-smithy. I like that. first impression is that it is OP. But i like it. 

[Naesala]

Well it needs to be useful. I put it at 4 turns to be in between dimensional shield (3 turns, all non momentum) and wings (5 turns, all non momentum or airborn). I dunno though. Hmmm

[darkrobe]

Well it needs to be useful. I put it at 4 turns to be in between dimensional shield (3 turns, all non momentum) and wings (5 turns, all non momentum or airborn). I dunno though. Hmmm

true... making it sortof the "wings" of gravity. so to speak. how would it work with sundial? would you consider that delayed?

Right now it would be an effective shield against any creature that is not delayed.

delayed being.... Basilisk blood, guard-ed, frozen?, time bubbled

I think if we throw in frozen into the mix it should work out fine.

Would this apply to weapons? (technically they can be delayed)