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Chaos Draw | Destiny Draw https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=56723.msg1167449#msg1167449
« on: November 21, 2014, 11:50:49 pm »
Chaos Draw | Destiny Draw

The idea came from flyingcat and it was to create something like a draw, a shuffle or something that will list you through your deck and get a card more easily. Since there are cards that let you draw, there isn't a card that let's you get a specific card.. This card doesn't do that either, but it comes close to it.

- To clarify the upped effect - If there are the same amounts of copies in the deck, the card is randomly chosen from the available cards.
EXAMPLE: 3X Chimmeras, 3x Sosac, 3x Sky Blitz - you play this card and one copy of those three card will get to your hand.

Side Notes/Nerfs/Buffs:
- I'm thinking of making the upped version without a specific element. so it can stand alone, like sundials o novas.
- not sure about the cost, I think it's fine but we'll see.


Version I
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NAME:
Chaos Draw
ELEMENT:
Entropy
COST:
1 :entropy
TYPE:
Spell
ATK|HP:

TEXT:
Put a random card from your deck into your hand.
NAME:
Destiny Draw
ELEMENT:
Entropy
COST:
1
TYPE:
Spell
ATK|HP:

TEXT:
Put a card into your hand that has the least copies in the deck.

ART:

IDEA:
flyingcat
NOTES:
cat said he doesn't find interest in the card making proces, but I found his idea prety good, and he said I could potentialy use it to create something. so here it is.
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Re: Chaos Draw | Destiny Draw https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=56723.msg1167450#msg1167450
« Reply #1 on: November 21, 2014, 11:55:09 pm »
this is literally nerfed precognition in  :entropy.

if you drew a random amount of cards on the other hand...
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Re: Chaos Draw | Destiny Draw https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=56723.msg1167451#msg1167451
« Reply #2 on: November 22, 2014, 12:08:29 am »
this is literally nerfed precognition in  :entropy.

if you drew a random amount of cards on the other hand...

nice. I didn't think of that.
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Re: Chaos Draw | Destiny Draw https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=56723.msg1167494#msg1167494
« Reply #3 on: November 22, 2014, 03:13:52 am »
this is literally nerfed precognition in  :entropy.

if you drew a random amount of cards on the other hand...
The point of this is to make it easier to get certain copies of cards into your hand faster. It would open up a lot more decks, as you don't need at least 2 copies in a 30 card deck to have a decent chance of drawing it. Also, the upped version is colorless.
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Re: Chaos Draw | Destiny Draw https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=56723.msg1167501#msg1167501
« Reply #4 on: November 22, 2014, 03:56:38 am »
oh. i didnt see the upped one.

the upped could get pretty powerful.
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Re: Chaos Draw | Destiny Draw https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=56723.msg1167503#msg1167503
« Reply #5 on: November 22, 2014, 04:03:15 am »
Drawing a random card from one's deck & drawing a card are nearly identical (only difference: you don't draw the card your opponent was mindgating if they drew-locked you, & you don't draw the card which your opponent RT'd behind your next draw (where your next draw might've been 'nothing' if you were nightmare'd))

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Re: Chaos Draw | Destiny Draw https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=56723.msg1167573#msg1167573
« Reply #6 on: November 22, 2014, 09:13:44 am »
this is literally nerfed precognition in  :entropy.

if you drew a random amount of cards on the other hand...
The point of this is to make it easier to get certain copies of cards into your hand faster. It would open up a lot more decks, as you don't need at least 2 copies in a 30 card deck to have a decent chance of drawing it. Also, the upped version is colorless.

Exactly what flyingcat cat. We were discussing how it maybe should be easier to get certain cards.
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Re: Chaos Draw | Destiny Draw https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=56723.msg1167612#msg1167612
« Reply #7 on: November 22, 2014, 11:10:36 am »
So for uses

Unpupped: weaker Precognition; 'reshuffling' your deck a bit against Mindgate and RT
Upped: put 6 in a 30 card deck - you effectively have a 24 card deck

I guess the upped would be quote a popular card for rushes and some OTKs
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Re: Chaos Draw | Destiny Draw https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=56723.msg1167652#msg1167652
« Reply #8 on: November 22, 2014, 02:30:18 pm »
So for uses

Unpupped: weaker Precognition; 'reshuffling' your deck a bit against Mindgate and RT
Upped: put 6 in a 30 card deck - you effectively have a 24 card deck

I guess the upped would be quote a popular card for rushes and some OTKs

that was the exact point. if you're doing limitless speed and need a dragon or something, you could possibly draw it out with this card. So I think the genreal idea is prety decent but little tweaks could be possible in the furute..
Since it is powerfull, I tihnk maybe that your opponent should also draw a card from his deck.
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Re: Chaos Draw | Destiny Draw https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=56723.msg1167656#msg1167656
« Reply #9 on: November 22, 2014, 02:47:48 pm »
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Since it is powerfull, I tihnk maybe that your opponent should also draw a card from his deck.

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Re: Chaos Draw | Destiny Draw https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=56723.msg1167657#msg1167657
« Reply #10 on: November 22, 2014, 02:52:14 pm »
But it searches for the one with least copies. That's the point. You SoB with 1 photon and 20 light pillars, you probably won't draw that photon. You use this in the same situation. Photon acquired. You do have a point for this being like precognition, but this can be better in some cases.
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Re: Chaos Draw | Destiny Draw https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=56723.msg1167707#msg1167707
« Reply #11 on: November 22, 2014, 06:25:00 pm »
I dont even think its similiar to SoB.. maybe you dont unserstand the effect of it. Try reading it once more.. It a "search" type of card.. at least its thought of in that way.
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