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Re: Zombie's Bite | Zombie's Bite https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=57539.msg1178590#msg1178590
« Reply #12 on: February 06, 2015, 01:44:24 pm »
First you should sort out the card, have it balanced. The art can wait.

Plus, if you search a bit you can probably find some pics that you could use

Okay, could you explain what is OP about it? I believe that all the changes (that I haven't updated the card with yet) should balance it out a bit, but maybe not.
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Re: Zombie's Bite | Zombie's Bite https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=57539.msg1178655#msg1178655
« Reply #13 on: February 07, 2015, 04:05:02 am »
Alright, so is this what you're suggesting I do?

- Make Zombie's Bite deal 2 damage instead of 3
- Make Zombie's ability Zombie's Bite (one damage or two?)
- Make Zombie a non-standalone card Everything except this.
- Get rid of the autodeath mechanic

Is that everything? I want to try and send this to the Crucible once I get art, and I suppose I'll have to go to the Card Art thread..
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Re: Zombie's Bite | Zombie's Bite https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=57539.msg1178739#msg1178739
« Reply #14 on: February 07, 2015, 10:40:31 pm »
Updated.
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Re: Zombie's Bite | Zombie's Bite https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=57539.msg1178750#msg1178750
« Reply #15 on: February 07, 2015, 11:55:22 pm »
Thinking it twice..
- If you want YOUR creatures turn into zombies to multiply them, so why would the spell deal damage? Turning an opponent's creature into a 2/3 damage zombie isn't specially good so the spell would be casted only in your creatures.
- If you want to use the zombies as CC, you should have zombies first, so you would just use zombies instead of the spell.

In conclussion, the spell dealing damage is useless. Also if the zombies deal 2 damage instead of 1 it would be good against rushes maybe, but now they are pretty much useless
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Re: Zombie's Bite | Zombie's Bite https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=57539.msg1178752#msg1178752
« Reply #16 on: February 08, 2015, 12:10:53 am »
Thinking it twice..
- If you want YOUR creatures turn into zombies to multiply them, so why would the spell deal damage? Turning an opponent's creature into a 2/3 damage zombie isn't specially good so the spell would be casted only in your creatures.
- If you want to use the zombies as CC, you should have zombies first, so you would just use zombies instead of the spell.

In conclussion, the spell dealing damage is useless. Also if the zombies deal 2 damage instead of 1 it would be good against rushes maybe, but now they are pretty much useless

Hm, well, I wasn't entirely sure about how much damage each Zombie should be able to do, as of there would be an insane amount of CC if they dealt two damage, and combined with Fractal..

Are you suggesting that I get rid of the spell? Even if it's mainly for your own side, targeting creatures like Ruby Dragons and.. Seraphs..

Yeah, I see your point. I suppose the spell is pretty redundant. Maybe if I buff it to 5 damage? That wouldn't be too much, would it? Lightning isn't OP, so I'm assuming this couldn't be too bad.
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Re: Zombie's Bite | Zombie's Bite https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=57539.msg1178765#msg1178765
« Reply #17 on: February 08, 2015, 03:54:37 am »
Thinking it twice..
- If you want YOUR creatures turn into zombies to multiply them, so why would the spell deal damage? Turning an opponent's creature into a 2/3 damage zombie isn't specially good so the spell would be casted only in your creatures.
- If you want to use the zombies as CC, you should have zombies first, so you would just use zombies instead of the spell.

In conclussion, the spell dealing damage is useless. Also if the zombies deal 2 damage instead of 1 it would be good against rushes maybe, but now they are pretty much useless

Hm, well, I wasn't entirely sure about how much damage each Zombie should be able to do, as of there would be an insane amount of CC if they dealt two damage, and combined with Fractal..

Are you suggesting that I get rid of the spell? Even if it's mainly for your own side, targeting creatures like Ruby Dragons and.. Seraphs..

Yeah, I see your point. I suppose the spell is pretty redundant. Maybe if I buff it to 5 damage? That wouldn't be too much, would it? Lightning isn't OP, so I'm assuming this couldn't be too bad.
I remind you once again of Otyugh. This is weaker than Otyugh by far, so I doubt that it is OP.
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Re: Zombie's Bite | Zombie's Bite https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=57539.msg1178773#msg1178773
« Reply #18 on: February 08, 2015, 08:31:47 am »
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Maybe if I buff it to 5 damage? That wouldn't be too much, would it? Lightning isn't OP, so I'm assuming this couldn't be too bad.

Would that mean dealing 5 damage and turning into zombie?
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Re: Zombie's Bite | Zombie's Bite https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=57539.msg1178792#msg1178792
« Reply #19 on: February 08, 2015, 04:25:48 pm »
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Maybe if I buff it to 5 damage? That wouldn't be too much, would it? Lightning isn't OP, so I'm assuming this couldn't be too bad.

Would that mean dealing 5 damage and turning into zombie?

Yes, for the spell, not the ability.

Thinking it twice..
- If you want YOUR creatures turn into zombies to multiply them, so why would the spell deal damage? Turning an opponent's creature into a 2/3 damage zombie isn't specially good so the spell would be casted only in your creatures.
- If you want to use the zombies as CC, you should have zombies first, so you would just use zombies instead of the spell.

In conclussion, the spell dealing damage is useless. Also if the zombies deal 2 damage instead of 1 it would be good against rushes maybe, but now they are pretty much useless

Hm, well, I wasn't entirely sure about how much damage each Zombie should be able to do, as of there would be an insane amount of CC if they dealt two damage, and combined with Fractal..

Are you suggesting that I get rid of the spell? Even if it's mainly for your own side, targeting creatures like Ruby Dragons and.. Seraphs..

Yeah, I see your point. I suppose the spell is pretty redundant. Maybe if I buff it to 5 damage? That wouldn't be too much, would it? Lightning isn't OP, so I'm assuming this couldn't be too bad.
I remind you once again of Otyugh. This is weaker than Otyugh by far, so I doubt that it is OP.

Okay, I guess so. So should the Zombies deal two damage or one? And as for the spell, what is the damage that you suggest it should be? I'm really liking the idea of five damage, but considering that it would probably be a guaranteed death (and it's in the Death element), nerfing it down to four or something might be better.
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Re: Zombie's Bite | Zombie's Bite https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=57539.msg1178803#msg1178803
« Reply #20 on: February 08, 2015, 09:32:43 pm »
3 or 4 is probably good for the spell. I don't like the idea of Death gaining Lightning, because in-element Bonebolt.
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Re: Zombie's Bite | Zombie's Bite https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=57539.msg1178806#msg1178806
« Reply #21 on: February 08, 2015, 10:17:26 pm »
Okay, I'll go with four damage, since I don't want it to be almost the same as the ability, it should be at least a bit higher than the reusable version..
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