Upped War? Is it possible?

[Korugar]

I was just kidding....however, I do want to know what it is that you do to grind so fast

[$$$man]

I was just kidding....however, I do want to know what it is that you do to grind so fast

I can haz free time?
I spent almost all week grinding for todays tourney. (except for thanksgiving day)

[Scaredgirl]

I still think that making them mandatory would be overly restrictive to deck building. Like what if I'm team life and I want to make an adreanastave deck or I want to use nova in my rush? I think if you're having an upped war, then you shouldn't impose any restrictions that would force suboptimal decks.

I also like malduk's point about the strategy that's involved in deciding what to up.

Perhaps something in the middle? Like all decks must use 15 upped cards?

The main problem here is that if you let people use unupped cards, we will have tons of participants with not that many upped cards. Players who do not pick unupped cards because those cards fit better to their decks, but because they don't have upped version of those specific cards.

What happens then?

Well, then we will have players with fully upped decks, fighting players will half-upped decks. When the latter lose, they will complain that they only lost because the opponent had upped cards and they didn't. The event would most likely be decided based on who has the most upped cards, not based on who has the most skill.

The playing field has to be fair, meaning that all teams must have access to exactly the same amount of upped cards. I don't see any way of accomplishing this, other than forcing players to use upped cards.

[Korugar]

So, just say that everyone who participates has to have X amount of cards. Make it as high a number as you think you can get away with, and chances are everyone will be able to make decks with as many upped cards as they want, while still being able to use unupped if they prefer.

[fenix2011]

Thats the point of the auction isn't it SG?? Obviously when you pick your players you want those with lots of upped cards in the element you pick them for.. So that means you can force a percent (i.e. 50% or 80% upped) and if you picked a member for your team who can't field the cards they want upped.. kinda means the wrong person was picked for the wrong team?

But there are clearly elements that will be... lacking in players. Light will be over-represented if just for rol/hope decks, while the other FG variants will probably have similar impacts on the spread.. (lots of upped quantum towers).

[QuantumT]

Yeah, it seems like that the upped cards thing would be fine so long as the number of available upped cards was known when the auction was taking place. The players who would always be able to use upped cards would naturally go for more.

[Destiny]

I won't be able to play, but it will be fun to see who turns out the winner. Honestly, I think will win. It's upped cards are really nice.

[Destiny]

Well, then we will have players with fully upped decks, fighting players will half-upped decks. When the latter lose, they will complain that they only lost because the opponent had upped cards and they didn't. The event would most likely be decided based on who has the most upped cards, not based on who has the most skill.

The playing field has to be fair, meaning that all teams must have access to exactly the same amount of upped cards. I don't see any way of accomplishing this, other than forcing players to use upped cards.

Typo in red.

[Kuross]

Well, then we will have players with fully upped decks, fighting players will half-upped decks. When the latter lose, they will complain that they only lost because the opponent had upped cards and they didn't. The event would most likely be decided based on who has the most upped cards, not based on who has the most skill.

The playing field has to be fair, meaning that all teams must have access to exactly the same amount of upped cards. I don't see any way of accomplishing this, other than forcing players to use upped cards.

Typo in red.

No offense, but pointing out typos is not always a good idea on this forum as many people speak English as second language here and those that use it as a first can be prone to mistakes like anyone else. Might just want to keep on topic unless the typo is so great that it is unclear as to the intent of the author.

[TheonlyrealBeef]

But there are some decks that you are tossing aside to have the rule. Maybe not a ton, but some.

Also, forcing cards to be upped would be that people couldn't really use their nymphs either, as no one wants to up their nymphs.

Hmm, *looks at his 6 upped nymphs* bad excuse. It's the lack of these kinds of events that makes people not up any nymphs.

Anyway, I got an interesting solution for using unupped cards in deckbuilding:
- allow Lieutenant to use up to 3 unupgraded cards
- allow General to use up to 6 unupgraded cards

They don't need to, but them being able to use some unupped cards could allow them to use unique decks, just like upgrades allow it for unupped war.

[kobisjeruk]

now that^ is creative thinking

[Scaredgirl]

But there are some decks that you are tossing aside to have the rule. Maybe not a ton, but some.

Also, forcing cards to be upped would be that people couldn't really use their nymphs either, as no one wants to up their nymphs.

Hmm, *looks at his 6 upped nymphs* bad excuse. It's the lack of these kinds of events that makes people not up any nymphs.

Anyway, I got an interesting solution for using unupped cards in deckbuilding:
- allow Lieutenant to use up to 3 unupgraded cards
- allow General to use up to 6 unupgraded cards

They don't need to, but them being able to use some unupped cards could allow them to use unique decks, just like upgrades allow it for unupped war.

This is hands down the best solution so far.

As for the auction.. I don't think it is even needed because of lower number of participants. A simple draft will do the same thing without making things too complex.