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The end of the Rainbow https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=16755.msg214450#msg214450
« on: December 01, 2010, 05:09:15 pm »
This is just an idea right now.  If people are interested I will put it into the template. 

Every player starts with a deck that uses cards from all 12 elements and other.  Pairing is random.  You may change decks between games but may not add or remove any elements.  Matches are best 2 of 3.  I you lose a match, you lower the number of elements in your deck by 3 .  You are eliminated once you lose with a mono deck.  Pillars may not be upgraded, but you can upgrade cards from 1 element throughout the event (it must be the same element the entire time).

Examples of how it would work:
#of lossesDifferent elements in deck(including other)
013
110
27
34
41
Any suggestions or questions are appreciated to help work out the kinks.
 

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Re: The end of the Rainbow https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=16755.msg214456#msg214456
« Reply #1 on: December 01, 2010, 05:14:22 pm »
I don't think the one element upped should have to be the same the whole event, partially because I think it will lead to a lot of people with upped entropy, just so they have access to supernovae at the beginning.

Maybe the upped element has to be the same for the length of the match, but it can change from match to match instead?

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Re: The end of the Rainbow https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=16755.msg214560#msg214560
« Reply #2 on: December 01, 2010, 09:13:51 pm »
I don't think the one element upped should have to be the same the whole event, partially because I think it will lead to a lot of people with upped entropy, just so they have access to supernovae at the beginning.

Maybe the upped element has to be the same for the length of the match, but it can change from match to match instead?
My thinking was it would make it more accessible to people while still allowing those with a lot of upped cards to use them.  Early on you would only see a few upped cards but later in the tournament when people are down to mono decks they can be completely upped except for pillars.  Entropy will probably be popular to pick as your upped because it works well in rainbows all the way down monos.  But people may also pick something like earth or fire which both have bigger advantages when you get down to mono.  Also this helps solve the question of should shards be allowed.  Taking other as your upped element may help early on but later you are screwed because you cannot make a mono other deck in the end so you lose all your upgrades.    Picking one upped element from the start brings in a lot of strategy right away.  I will change that rule though if a lot of people would prefer that you be allowed to change your upped element.

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Re: The end of the Rainbow https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=16755.msg223001#msg223001
« Reply #3 on: December 12, 2010, 05:55:01 pm »
I like the idea, but i also agree with the fact that people will take entropy for the supernovas.

No matter of when it comes to monos, entropy has discord, so it will still be a good element to use.
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Re: The end of the Rainbow https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=16755.msg223496#msg223496
« Reply #4 on: December 13, 2010, 05:40:24 am »
It does lend itself to picking entropy for the up.  Maybe it could be made that you have to change what element you can upgrade at each stage.  That way you have to choose if you want to use supernova in the first stage or upgraded entropy as your mono deck at the end.

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Re: The end of the Rainbow https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=16755.msg224388#msg224388
« Reply #5 on: December 14, 2010, 06:11:26 am »
I think it sounds great. And there are so many things to thing about, beyond supernova! Any thoughts on restoring 1 element per victory? or does that make it drag on too much?

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Re: The end of the Rainbow https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=16755.msg224624#msg224624
« Reply #6 on: December 14, 2010, 04:46:52 pm »
I think it sounds great. And there are so many things to thing about, beyond supernova! Any thoughts on restoring 1 element per victory? or does that make it drag on too much?
I'm almost afraid it would be too long as is because it takes 5 losses to be eliminated.  I originally wanted to make it so you remove only 2 elements for a loss but that would go on far too long.  I did though think of an idea that could keep it from going on too long and work with 1 gained element and 2 lost elements.  It would work so that every predetermined number of rounds (say every 3 rounds) those in the bottom half would be eliminated.  Then when it got down to the final 4 or so you would have to be beaten all the way out to be eliminated.  These last few rounds would have to happen faster to keep the last 2 people from playing a month straight back and forth.  I would need to do some figuring to find the optimal numbers as far as how many should be eliminated, how often, 2 or 3 elements down for a loss, how long for preliminary rounds, how many in the final round, and how long for final rounds.  I'm interested what people think of it this way.  I could also rename it "The Cut" because it would work like a cut in golf where those at the bottom are eliminated.  All feedback has been very helpful so far and I have really appreciated it.  Anyone else with any comments or suggestions would be very helpful in helping this idea take shape.

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Re: The end of the Rainbow https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=16755.msg229909#msg229909
« Reply #7 on: December 21, 2010, 05:40:51 am »
wow... the cut sound brutal... I like it. lol. And what a change from "the end of the rainbow". it's like we went from PG to R rating with one idea!

 

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