GODS & MORTALS

[Dragoon]

GODS & MORTALS
Original idea by: Dragoon   |   Developed by: Dragoon    |   Organized by: ???

"Create a god and then kill everyone else's."

SIGN UP

Anyone with a forum and a chat account can sign up for this event.  Start by reading the rules very carefully.  Then sign up by posting on a separate sign up topic.  If you cannot find a sign up topic, or if it is locked, this event is not currently active, and you will have to wait for it to restart.

PREPARATION

You create a FG using the normal deck building rules (no more than 6 copies of a card except pillars & pendulums).  I highly recommend testing your idea in the new trainer.You ban 1-2 cards that can't be used against your god.You PM the organizer with your deck code and card ban(s).

BATTLE

Once all the submissions have been made, all the decks will be posted in the OP with their corresponding bans.You have 1 week (subject to change depending on number of players) to beat as many gods as you can.  To play the gods, import the deck code with the AI deck import button in the trainer.  Select the AI6 option.  Make sure to take a screenshot of your win.  You must also show what deck you used to win.  You can use any card except the banned one(s).  You cannot use the quanta bonus cheat.Before time runs out, you must post all your screenshots and decks used to win.  It is recommended to do this as close to the end as possible to avoid giving other players an advantage by seeing how you beat a certain god.

SCORING

Scoring is simple.

You get +2 points for every god you beat.  (I'm considering doing something more complicated that considers how much a god is beaten.  The more it's beaten the fewer points it gives; the fewer times it's beaten the more points it's worth.  Of course we won't know how much a god is worth until the fighting is done.)You get -1 point every time your god is beat.

Whoever has the most points wins.  In case of a tie, then the player's god that was beaten least wins.  If it's still a tie, then the player who killed the harder gods wins (all the gods will be ranked from 1st to last by how frequently they were beaten).


What do you think?  Any suggestions?  And how many cards should be ban-able?

[MyNameIsJoey]

I like the idea. It's something new we hadn't seen before and thats exactly what we are looking for.

As for the bans, might ask others's opinions, but i think there shouldnt be any. If you create a false god it should be able to win in every case.

[$$$man]

Based off of chris's endeavors I assume? Great idea, would love to partake in it.

[Dragoon]

Yeah, CK's FG realms did inspire this some.  In the future, you could make this more thematic like his were.

There are two things I like about this PvP event.  One, you can do this whenever you have time.  No need to try to work with people's schedules since it's just you and the AI.  And two, it's all about deck-building.  I'm hoping you have to really work at building good counter decks against these gods.

@ji412jo: I guess it depends on if you want the hard part being building your god, or building decks to beat other people's gods.  I think it should be the latter.

That's why I like the idea of making the gods even a little bit harder than normal by banning 1 card.  More might be too much.  I don't want the standard RoL/Hope, CCYB, Time-bow, or even mono-Aether to be able to beat these gods.  You should have to really work at creating the "perfect" counter deck against these gods.  At least that's my opinion.  I also thought about making a universal ban against SoGs.  I don't know.  We'll see.

[MyNameIsJoey]

I see your point, I now agree to some bans. Maybe 2?

[kobisjeruk]

it seems to me this is more towards F&G competition than a PvP event

[kev]

This looks like so much fun.  Can't wait to join.

[Dragoon]

I was thinking about the bans some and I think if we go with more bans, the bans should be limited to types of cards.  For example, if we had 2 bans you couldn't ban both Reflective Shield and Jade Shield and then make a Fire Bolt FG.  You could ban a mix of Permanent, Spell, or Creature but not 2 of any type of card.  It's a thought.

[Scaredgirl]

This is almost identical to what Chriskang did back in the day, so I think it would be fair to include his name in the "Original idea by". Here's one link about it: http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,1127.msg12289#msg12289 (no idea where the actual event is).

I participated in the original event and it was great fun so I think this would be a great event.

I personally would do the scoring as follows:
50% how many FG's you manage to beat (and how fast)
50% how difficult your own FG is to beat

One important thing you are missing from the scoring is speed. I think that the player who defeats a specific FG during the first 24 hours, should get more points the the player who does so during day 6 when everyone has already found out the tricks to beat that FG and are publicly talking about it.

Because of international time zones, 24 hours is the minimum amount of time. That would mean that everyone who beat a specific FG during those first 24 hours, would share the 1st prize in beating him. If one FG hasn't been beaten during the first 24 hours, the maker of that FG gets full points for making the most difficult FG. If all FG's get beaten during the first 24 hours, the one that was beaten least times, is considered the most difficult.

Using that system, we could list all FG's from the strongest to the weakest, and list all players from the strongest to the weakest. Then all we need is to appoint score accordingly.

As for card bans, I agree that SoG should have a global ban. SoG pretty much killed (or at least wounded) the original event by Chriskang. For other card bans, you could keep it simple and let everyone ban 3 cards, one for each card type.

[Ekki]

I would like this event to go on, even though Dragoon's retirement.

One important thing you are missing from the scoring is speed. I think that the player who defeats a specific FG during the first 24 hours, should get more points the the player who does so during day 6 when everyone has already found out the tricks to beat that FG and are publicly talking about it.

I think that would cripple originality. You would see all the other players' decks and some people will start copying the ideas, or at least stop using their own's.

I agree that some sort of method to reward speed should be applied, but the only idea that comes to my mind is PM'ing the Organizer, and it sounds like massive PM spam 

As for scoring, if we manage to find a way to reward speed, ranking the gods and players should be easy. And that's another reason why rewarding speed is important. I might think about it if I find some time in RL.

I would love to organize this Event, but I also want to take part in it sooo badly

[Scaredgirl]

I would like this event to go on, even though Dragoon's retirement.

One important thing you are missing from the scoring is speed. I think that the player who defeats a specific FG during the first 24 hours, should get more points the the player who does so during day 6 when everyone has already found out the tricks to beat that FG and are publicly talking about it.

I think that would cripple originality. You would see all the other players' decks and some people will start copying the ideas, or at least stop using their own's.

I agree that some sort of method to reward speed should be applied, but the only idea that comes to my mind is PM'ing the Organizer, and it sounds like massive PM spam 

As for scoring, if we manage to find a way to reward speed, ranking the gods and players should be easy. And that's another reason why rewarding speed is important. I might think about it if I find some time in RL.

I would love to organize this Event, but I also want to take part in it sooo badly

There might be a couple of ways to fix that copy-cat thing.

With the original Chriskang event, I think I suggested a system where you cannot use the same MARK as the person who posted his screenshot before you. So each time a screenshot is posted, one mark is used.

Another, less-cool, way would be to have players post their screenshots to the organizers or something like that. Ah, you already said that..

I'll try to think about it some more. Meanwhile, I think the mark thing might work.

[Scaredgirl]

I'm bumping this so I won't forget it. We need to make this event happen at some point.