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Re: Elements The Game World Cup https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=44412.msg1068084#msg1068084
« Reply #24 on: May 08, 2013, 12:04:52 pm »
As Atom_heart mentioned, each country, including the United States, should field only one team.  The FIFA World Cup doesn't allow extra teams for countries with larger populations, and neither should we.

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Re: Elements The Game World Cup https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=44412.msg1068091#msg1068091
« Reply #25 on: May 08, 2013, 12:14:07 pm »
I see you have no rule for 3 vs 1?
Same criteria as 3 vs 1. 3 matches, no need to untie.

Also, I believe you should get some restrictions on the matches else it just becomes a league 2.0

Idea : Get each country to choose a national card. Only this country can use the card.
I agree, it would need a creative and fun rule, nothing too restrictive though.

Also, How much team would the 2 phases last? Say a country has less than 3 participants, how much time do they ahve to wait that the other countries chose their participants? Remember that if someone has nothing to do in an event for a while, they might just totally forget about it and you can lose your players.
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Well, the american qualifiers could be a bit crowded. I don't know if there's a way to count american members, but let's do some rough numbers.
There are about 3000 forum members. Let's say that 1/3 are americans (1024 to make the math simple). Let's assume that all of them are currently active, that they all have more than 30 posts, and that they all want to participate (which would be awesome, by the way). You arrange them in groups of 4, and you have 256 groups. After the 3 weeks of round robin you get your 256 group winners, and you arrange them in a (very large) single bracket. After 8 stages (weeks) you get your National Team. That's 11 weeks, almost 3 months. It's long, but not eternal. It would require some heavy organization, though.
That is an estimate of how long it would take if, say, all the registered americans decided to join (as unlikely as that might be). A bit long, but not out of control, imo.
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Re: Elements The Game World Cup https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=44412.msg1068236#msg1068236
« Reply #26 on: May 08, 2013, 08:28:47 pm »
If it works the same as it used to be, we usually want events to last around a month. 3 months sounds a bit long, but ofcourse you accounted for the worst case, and i doubt it will happen.
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Re: Elements The Game World Cup https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=44412.msg1068246#msg1068246
« Reply #27 on: May 08, 2013, 08:58:32 pm »
Each nation using the corresponding elements:

USA :fire :light :air
GER :darkness :fire :time
FRA :water :light :fire
ITA  :life :light :fire
BRA :life :time :water
ENG :water :fire :light
ARG :air :light :time

GRE :light :air :light
CAN :fire :light :fire
ROW :death :earth :entropy
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Re: Elements The Game World Cup https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=44412.msg1068250#msg1068250
« Reply #28 on: May 08, 2013, 09:06:36 pm »

Each nation using the corresponding elements:

USA :fire :light :air
GER :darkness :fire :time
FRA :water :light :fire
ITA  :life :light :fire
BRA :life :time :water
ARG :air :light :time
GRE :air :light :aether
CAN :fire :light :gravity
ROW :death :earth :entropy

To make use of national colors and yet not to be too restrictive, the rule could be:
Each deck must have at least 50% of cards from the 3 national colors.
This would allow still for any team to use any element, yet add some restrictions but not as much as War .

Another idea: allow a limited number of upgrades depending on the level of the bracket, i.e. start with 0 and keep raising the limit each round by some X, so the final has a significant number of upgrades allowed (X TBD depending on bracket size)
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Re: Elements The Game World Cup https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=44412.msg1068254#msg1068254
« Reply #29 on: May 08, 2013, 09:18:51 pm »
50% off element, but can use up to 6 upgraded in element cards
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Re: Elements The Game World Cup https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=44412.msg1068256#msg1068256
« Reply #30 on: May 08, 2013, 09:22:59 pm »
And how do you decide 3 national colors if there are less than 3 colors in the flag?
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Re: Elements The Game World Cup https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=44412.msg1068260#msg1068260
« Reply #31 on: May 08, 2013, 09:31:45 pm »
yeah, i dont see the gravity in canada... And thing is, there is a lot of white i the flags. So light would be the main element of the event?
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Re: Elements The Game World Cup https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=44412.msg1068262#msg1068262
« Reply #32 on: May 08, 2013, 09:43:26 pm »
And how do you decide 3 national colors if there are less than 3 colors in the flag?
ROW= Rest of the World, but if you have a team of Sweden, you can pick another color derived from the blue:  :death :time :water or  :air :time :water

yeah, i dont see the gravity in canada... And thing is, there is a lot of white i the flags. So light would be the main element of the event?
Canada has not really orange, so I used the most similar to red, you have a better idea? or else make the nation with more upgraded cards
Countries with 3 colors have 6 upgraded for each element = 18
Countries with 2 colors have 9 upgraded for each element = 18
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Re: Elements The Game World Cup https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=44412.msg1069598#msg1069598
« Reply #33 on: May 12, 2013, 04:24:18 pm »
Every competitive game needs a world cup like this :) for America and other countries with large populations, might as well just have the qualifier be called the American National Cup or something..i propose instead of having it like a team competition, make it an individual competition where each country sends its top 2 or something and then they are seeded into a bracket far away from evhother to avoid knocking each other out and just have everything be 1v1, this way we determine the "best player" instead of the "best team"
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Re: Elements The Game World Cup https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=44412.msg1069600#msg1069600
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America is not a country...
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Re: Elements The Game World Cup https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=44412.msg1069608#msg1069608
« Reply #35 on: May 12, 2013, 05:05:26 pm »
You know what I mean USA...also for a PvP event like this I'm not a fan of too many restrictions such as national elements I'd personally prefer open meta or just ban some cards/combos or minor restrictions
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