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SOPA https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=34950.msg440468#msg440468
« on: December 19, 2011, 09:35:13 pm »
Nevermind about that NDAA thread, this will affect you internet nerds much more than any military.

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 The Stop Online Piracy Act (SOPA), also known as H.R.3261, is a bill that was introduced in the United States House of Representatives on October 26, 2011, by Representative Lamar Smith (R-TX) and a bipartisan group of 12 initial co-sponsors. The bill expands the ability of U.S. law enforcement and copyright holders to fight online trafficking in copyrighted intellectual property and counterfeit goods.[2] Now before the House Judiciary Committee, it builds on the similar PRO-IP Act of 2008 and the corresponding Senate bill, the Protect IP Act.[3]
 
 The bill would allow the U.S. Department of Justice, as well as copyright holders, to seek court orders against websites accused of enabling or facilitating copyright infringement. Depending on who requests the court orders, the actions could include barring online advertising networks and payment facilitators such as PayPal from doing business with the infringing website, barring search engines from linking to such sites, and requiring Internet service providers to block access to such sites. The bill would make unauthorized streaming of copyrighted content a felony. The bill also gives immunity to Internet services that voluntarily take action against websites dedicated to infringement, while making liable for damages any copyright holder who knowingly misrepresents that a website is dedicated to infringement.[4]
 
 Proponents of the bill say it protects the intellectual property market and corresponding industry, jobs and revenue, and is necessary to bolster enforcement of copyright laws especially against foreign websites.[5] Opponents say it infringes on First Amendment rights, is Internet censorship,[6] that it will cripple the Internet,[7] and will threaten whistle-blowing and other free speech.[8]
 
 The House Judiciary Committee held hearings on SOPA on November 16 and December 15, 2011. A vote is presently scheduled for Wednesday, December 21.
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Re: SOPA https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=34950.msg440474#msg440474
« Reply #1 on: December 19, 2011, 09:53:47 pm »
When I saw this topic title in Unread Posts, I thought you were going to talk about Shard of Patience.
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Re: SOPA https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=34950.msg446017#msg446017
« Reply #2 on: January 05, 2012, 11:46:28 pm »
Glad someone brought this up. Yes, both bills are truly pernicious. A truly free internet is simply too great a threat to entrenched interests -- just look at the role the internet has had in the many protests of the last year.

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Re: SOPA https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=34950.msg446023#msg446023
« Reply #3 on: January 05, 2012, 11:55:28 pm »
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Re: SOPA https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=34950.msg446059#msg446059
« Reply #4 on: January 06, 2012, 01:26:15 am »
It's not Shard of patience? :P

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Re: SOPA https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=34950.msg446065#msg446065
« Reply #5 on: January 06, 2012, 02:01:24 am »
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Re: SOPA https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=34950.msg449832#msg449832
« Reply #6 on: January 17, 2012, 06:41:25 am »
Wikimedia is having a blackout in protest of SOPA. So if you need to get any research done, do it in the next 23 hours.
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Re: SOPA https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=34950.msg449841#msg449841
« Reply #7 on: January 17, 2012, 07:53:51 am »
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Re: SOPA https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=34950.msg449921#msg449921
« Reply #8 on: January 17, 2012, 05:43:17 pm »
Wikimedia is having a blackout in protest of SOPA. So if you need to get any research done, do it in the next 23 hours.
> implying Wiki's have any credibility
 
People should be doing their research properly and not taking "short cuts" ... In addition its only going to be dark for a day

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Re: SOPA https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=34950.msg449932#msg449932
« Reply #9 on: January 17, 2012, 06:11:17 pm »
Wikimedia is having a blackout in protest of SOPA. So if you need to get any research done, do it in the next 23 hours.
> implying Wiki's have any credibility
 
People should be doing their research properly and not taking "short cuts" ... In addition its only going to be dark for a day
1) Wiki's are more credible than the vast majority give them credit for thanks to many people who work to maintain its quality. 2) Using a wiki isnt "improper" research (http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/research) and is only a shortcut in the sense of it is the quickest place to find general information on a subject. 3) A -real- reason for not using wikis is that wikipedia is an encyclopedia and encyclopedias should not be used for research papers because information in them is in most cases considered common knowledge. 4) Wikipedia often cites it's sources meaning that the information has backing and also meaning that 5) one can use wikipedia to locate scholarly sources.

As for only going dark for a day...yeah, thats not going to be much of a punch, but it's something and it keeps the momentum of the opposition of this bill going, which is importent
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Re: SOPA https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=34950.msg449943#msg449943
« Reply #10 on: January 17, 2012, 06:53:22 pm »
Wikimedia is having a blackout in protest of SOPA. So if you need to get any research done, do it in the next 23 hours.
> implying Wiki's have any credibility
 
People should be doing their research properly and not taking "short cuts" ... In addition its only going to be dark for a day
1) Wiki's are more credible than the vast majority give them credit for thanks to many people who work to maintain its quality. 2) Using a wiki isnt "improper" research (http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/research) and is only a shortcut in the sense of it is the quickest place to find general information on a subject. 3) A -real- reason for not using wikis is that wikipedia is an encyclopedia and encyclopedias should not be used for research papers because information in them is in most cases considered common knowledge. 4) Wikipedia often cites it's sources meaning that the information has backing and also meaning that 5) one can use wikipedia to locate scholarly sources.

As for only going dark for a day...yeah, thats not going to be much of a punch, but it's something and it keeps the momentum of the opposition of this bill going, which is importent
While there are people who maintain quality on the wiki sites there is also the problem of people maliciously changing pages as "graffiti" or to win bets on which they would otherwise be wrong.  While this problem is quickly fixed it still causes the problem of misinformation which has been caused by acts such as these on numerous occasions by people checking the wrong article at the wrong time. This has become prevalent enough to create several new terms such as collateral misinformation. As such the wiki's can be a decent place to start research (to find outside links verifying the information contained within the article, which may or may not be accurate)  it is by no means anything more than a bank of common knowledge as you yourself have pointed out.

It would appear we have gotten quite off-topic though...

As for the bill itself, I don't think it will pass in its current form, I'd wager we see a similar proposal shortly after this one fails though

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Re: SOPA https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=34950.msg449944#msg449944
« Reply #11 on: January 17, 2012, 07:00:55 pm »
When I saw this topic title in Unread Posts, I thought you were going to talk about Shard of Patience.
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