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Re: Obama to sign law ending military gay ban https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=17848.msg232624#msg232624
« Reply #12 on: December 25, 2010, 06:37:03 am »
idk doesnt matter to me. im just looking out for my fellow americans. not like we actually need anymore army people.

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Re: Obama to sign law ending military gay ban https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=17848.msg234888#msg234888
« Reply #13 on: December 28, 2010, 04:59:49 pm »
awesome. i don't get discrimination against gays anyways, because like a comedian said:
              "I don't get discrimination now. Back then, discrimination was simple, the whites said, 'we don't want the blacks marrying us, make them marry each other.' now people are saying 'we don't want the queers marrying each other, make them marry... us?'"
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Re: Obama to sign law ending military gay ban https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=17848.msg235085#msg235085
« Reply #14 on: December 28, 2010, 10:47:10 pm »
When talking about the gay marriage issue, most people blur the line between a marriage in view of a church and a marriage (or "civil union") in view of the state.  If the majority wishes homosexual couples to be able to benefit from the same state-granted financial boon that heterosexual couples enjoy, then it will become law.  That's how laws work.  The church doesn't have to be involved, or care... the church is, after all, made up of citizens who are free as anyone else to vote according to their own morality.

Both sides of the gay marriage issue make it a WAY bigger can of worms than it needs to be...

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Re: Obama to sign law ending military gay ban https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=17848.msg235133#msg235133
« Reply #15 on: December 29, 2010, 12:03:09 am »
The reason i think they kept homosexuality hidden is because it would cause disruptances. imagine if two homosexuals were left on guard duty and just decided to make out and f eachother right there. we would have a huge problem. i dont care if you are gay or not. i have plenty of gay friends. i think for there own safety they should stay out of the military.
gay != horny

only pointing that out because your argument hinges on them wanting to have sex with each other while being on guard duty, not just them being gay.

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Re: Obama to sign law ending military gay ban https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=17848.msg235235#msg235235
« Reply #16 on: December 29, 2010, 02:13:08 am »
The reason i think they kept homosexuality hidden is because it would cause disruptances. imagine if two homosexuals were left on guard duty and just decided to make out and f eachother right there. we would have a huge problem. i dont care if you are gay or not. i have plenty of gay friends. i think for there own safety they should stay out of the military.
gay != horny

only pointing that out because your argument hinges on them wanting to have sex with each other while being on guard duty, not just them being gay.
No... it really doesnt.... aside from that though, I think its good it was repealed. I have a friend in the navy and he said theres a ton of gay people he knows, and they dont do anything to hide it. From his perspective, it was currently just a law to be a law. If we have a law we should enforce it. If we dont then we shouldnt have the law.
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Re: Obama to sign law ending military gay ban https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=17848.msg235236#msg235236
« Reply #17 on: December 29, 2010, 02:14:20 am »
Oh, so it was like our immigration laws?  *ducks the ensuing torrent of offtopic*

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Re: Obama to sign law ending military gay ban https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=17848.msg235238#msg235238
« Reply #18 on: December 29, 2010, 02:16:22 am »

And it was probably like the immigration laws because if you didn't ask, you didn't tell. Only they asked everything back then.  And how does gay=aroused?

Re: Obama to sign law ending military gay ban https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=17848.msg235246#msg235246
« Reply #19 on: December 29, 2010, 02:39:28 am »
Well, the word used to mean "happy" or "gleeful."

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Re: Obama to sign law ending military gay ban https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=17848.msg235283#msg235283
« Reply #20 on: December 29, 2010, 03:58:44 am »
And it was probably like the immigration laws because if you didn't ask, you didn't tell. Only they asked everything back then.  And how does gay=aroused?
It doesnt, but thats not his whole argument.
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Re: Obama to sign law ending military gay ban https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=17848.msg235332#msg235332
« Reply #21 on: December 29, 2010, 05:23:40 am »
zblader, I was only pointing out that crazyjay's argument completely hinged gay = aroused, so i simply stated that gay != aroused ._.

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Re: Obama to sign law ending military gay ban https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=17848.msg235362#msg235362
« Reply #22 on: December 29, 2010, 06:21:40 am »
zblader, I was only pointing out that crazyjay's argument completely hinged gay = aroused, so i simply stated that gay != aroused ._.
and my point is that his point stands. Same thing with girls. My thinking is that if you are in a military branch, then you realize the importance of what you are doing, so I just dont think his point is good period. I just dont think you did a good job of refutting it.
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Re: Obama to sign law ending military gay ban https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=17848.msg244975#msg244975
« Reply #23 on: January 11, 2011, 06:32:59 am »
Gah, I think it's terrible! Can you imagine how uncofortable it's going to be for straight males to have to share rooms or tents or wherever they sleep with homosexual males? It's going to make them feel akward and they may even be harassed by gays. It will decrease the efficiency of our military. Instead of just thinking about how sad the gay people who can't join the military are, why don't we think about our troops in the military right now and how they'd feel about it?

 

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