Gay marriage

[Dogg]

Yes, and i think everyone should be able to get these benefits. Still, i guess then it's possible for me to marry some girl i don't love in order for us both to get benefits, and at the same time, just be with some other girl, or whatever. Not quite sure how all that works tho, and i'm pretty sure i kinda got off topic now anyways. Heh, never mind me, go on with the discussion.

[BC]

I'm somewhat of a libertarian so my position on this is obviously that government has no business telling people they cant marry. Heck, if somebody told me they wanted to marry a box, and I was "the government," I wouldn't give a crap. Go ahead and marry the box.

[Uppercut]

I'm somewhat of a libertarian so my position on this is obviously that government has no business telling people they cant marry. Heck, if somebody told me they wanted to marry a box, and I was "the government," I wouldn't give a crap. Go ahead and marry the box.

I thought libertarians believed that doing something that directly impedes the rights of others is wrong. Since the box can't consent to marriage isn't forcing it into a marriage against libertarian principles?

[BC]

Who knows? Maybe the guy in question can talk to boxes. 

[theloconate]

Obviously, as a Mormon, I am against the idea that homosexuals should use marriage as a form of commitment.  However, I am not against another form of commitment for tax reasons.  Partnership, for instance.  I was just raised under the ideal that marriage is something that should stay between a man and a woman.

It's good that your open minded about it, but the thing is, not trying to insult you or anything, but your ideal on a particular subject is irrelevant unless your position on that topic can be defended or demonstrated by evidence

[truddy02]

Seems a lot of people here take at least somewhat Libertarian views, which is much like many of my views.  Until the government stops giving advantages to people who sign a piece of paper stating that they are now married, everyone should be afforded the opportunity to do this.  The government really shouldn't care if you are married or not, but you also shouldn't get some sort of advantage just for being a heterosexual.  The easiest thing for the government to do would be to get out of marriages all together.

[Uppercut]

The easiest thing for the government to do would be to get out of marriages all together.

Because repealing benefits and investments is an easy thing to do.

[truddy02]

The easiest thing for the government to do would be to get out of marriages all together.

Because repealing benefits and investments is an easy thing to do.

Easiest was the wrong word to use.  What I meant is it would make the most sense.  However, I am aware that this would pretty much never happen.

[Xrbeta]

For a more comedic take on other things in the bible that people don't follow through on, watch this (

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Lmao   That show does make a good point and certainly does make you wonder about that type of stuff... but back to the subject i dont honestly see why people make such a big fuss over this if gay's want to be miserable just like most people are in a marriage  let them be, i mean like they can do literally everything else an other couple can do but cant get married? that's kinda silly.I fully support gay marriage, mind every1 i am straight and raised in a pretty religious home also on a side note, i do believe people are simply born gay not possessed or the devil or any of that other crap chruchs like to put into people heads.

[Dragoon1140]

i do believe people are simply born gay not possessed or the devil or any of that other crap chruchs like to put into people heads.

Anybody who does obviously shouldn't be part of this debate, similar to how the other extreme shouldn't be either.  I didn't learn my opinion of gay marriage from the church, contrary to popular belief.  My opinion comes from my own analysis of marriage growing up, which always was a man marrying a woman.

[theloconate]

I didn't learn my opinion of gay marriage from the church, contrary to popular belief.  My opinion comes from my own analysis of marriage growing up, which always was a man marrying a woman.

So you're saying that because gay marriage, historically, hasn't been legal that it shouldn't be?

[Dragoon1140]

So you're saying that because gay marriage, historically, hasn't been legal that it shouldn't be?

Scarecrow question already?  Okay, I'll bite.   

When it comes to strictly marriage, yes, I believe that.  Again though, I am not against another way to receive the same tax benefits, however.