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Why Rush Limbaugh is an idiot; a British perspective https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=42635.msg531404#msg531404
« on: August 10, 2012, 06:04:00 am »
As an 'outsider,' that is, a person outside of the goldfish bowl of American politics.
I normally find Rush's version of hate-filled, right-wing demagoguery, both an amusing and informative view of the lower common denominators of American society and I could, with english humour, laugh it off.

But, dude. You messed up, infact for the normally prozac happy denziens of England, it seems like you went out of your way, to wind them up.
 
Firstly to claim that "the London Olympic opening cerimony, was only to promote Obama's Medicare bill," and that "most english people don't even want the NHS," is a massive slap in the face to those you would describe as your 'allies' and an egotistical, self-centered, mis-reading of international politics, the world doesn't revolve around you, mate.

Yes. We follow what you guys are up to, (I watch the ABC broadcast of the international news at 2am most nights,) because we do not want an other repeat of the Bush fiasco.  (and it was a fiasco, Al Gore should of won.)
Because on the whole , british people are a pretty informed lot, 3 million of us protested in London against the Iraq war and a million more protested against the Afgan war, but because our own right wing nutters pushed the same buttons (Messers Blair,Cambell et al) that the Republican war machine did we were forced to help the Americans launch an illegal war of agression.

Don't get me wrong. I am no peace loving hippy, but when Mr B.Lair says he has "the hand of history on his shoulder" I worry.
The NHS is almost sacred to us (it's the third largest state employer in the world, after the Chineese army and the Indian railway service) In the UK no-one goes bankrupt because they can't afford their medical bills, no-one dies on the street because they can't afford insurance but everyone has to wait a while, and at its worst the NHS will remove your tumour and re-place your hip within 8 weeks.

And idiots like you, Mr Limbaugh will say that our 40% tax rate pays for it, damn right it does. A packet of ciggarettes will cost me nearly £8 and two pints (40 fluid oz) will cost me, in the region of £6-£12
I am a chef-de-partie, I make enough to survive but I'm no Rockerfeller. Its true the government takes about £75 directly from a £400 pay check every week, but it has it's pay offs.
If i'm sick I can see a doctor without charge. If I am sick for more than 3 days I get £84 a week to keep me alive, if I get run over by a bus, my national insurance contributions will pay for my life support.

It is by no means ideal, there are people taking the piss. But as a nation, last year, we (as the british) donated about 50 million (£)sterling to keep organisations like Great Ormand Street Hospital or the Nightgale Hospice (that my family raises money for) running, not just in the UK but around the world, performing operations like cleft lip and cataract surgery around the world for free and allowing people to die in diginity.

It would be very easy to become vitiolic and attack that loony wanker for assuming the rubbish people like Piers (Moron) Morgan and Daniel Hannan is true, but I won't for the first time in living memory we as a nation have had a little national pride, the affects of the end of empire and the decline of British identity have hit us hard, we just don't have the same flag waving mentality that most Americans seem to consider natural, the last person that stood for the national anthem was Alf Garnet (and he's been dead for 20 years)
Please Rush don't be that guy, don't take this away from us, (because I'm sure this will be the last time we can wave the flag.))       
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Re: Why Rush Limbaugh is an idiot; a British perspective https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=42635.msg532724#msg532724
« Reply #1 on: August 13, 2012, 09:46:12 pm »
My bias is most accurately described as US Libertarian.

I have witnessed a 'recent' change in the behavior I perceive from US conservatives. This started when a Democrat became POTUS after a vague campaign*. This lead to more polarized views about the POTUS than normal. Correlation is not causation so I do not know if this caused the change of behavior below. I noticed US conservatives have stronger convictions that they were right. Stronger convictions that the US left was wrong. Less empathy with other positions.

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