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Re: The Dragon's Arena Decks https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=28528.msg479919#msg479919
« Reply #120 on: April 12, 2012, 10:44:45 pm »
First of all really admire your work throughout this thread. Some decks were inspiring, some decks got copy pasted. heck for just transfering those decks to the trainer for the code is enough work. What i like about your deck building is that you are not restricted to the min decksize, this is something that i also do.

Noticed that you lately experiment alot with sosa. I never really managed to make a top 10 sosa deck, though everyboby seems to achieve this. I like grinding alot in plat usually with sosa based decks. I find that a really strong winning condition on a sosa vs sosa arena deck is deckout. i manage to hold and manipulate AI dmg for the 6 sosa of mine to be enough but i usully deck out. I think a 12 sosa arena deck is primarily a deckouter. Would you agree?

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Re: The Dragon's Arena Decks https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=28528.msg479930#msg479930
« Reply #121 on: April 12, 2012, 11:16:21 pm »
Actually, I'd respectfully disagree.  If your deck is big enough to win via deckout, your SoSas might get spread out enough that you don't draw them in time.  I suspect that this is why the light deck failed so hard; it was 60 cards.  If it had kept the same theme but been 35 cards, it would probably have improved.  Most successful SoSa decks that I've seen rely on poison, whether monodeath, physalia, or dune scorps, because poison can only be removed by 1 card, purify, and so there isn't a need to 'protect' your win condition with PA, quint, etc.

And yes, lately I have used SoSa a lot, because I'm trying to prove that even with a stupid deck, if 6 SoSa are included, it's still a contender, and except for that joke of a light deck, they've all done reasonably well, and the physalia one even held the #1 spot.  For the last couple months, I've been making creative decks, as opposed to winning decks, although some have been both.  The only one I actually remember copying directly from someone else's post (zse) was a gravity/dark duo back in August. (I remember because I left it up over my vacation)  There aren't a lot of ways to do monodeath or immorush or whatever, but they were still built from scratch even if they look similar to other people's.

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Re: The Dragon's Arena Decks https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=28528.msg480920#msg480920
« Reply #122 on: April 14, 2012, 12:08:04 pm »
Yeah, that monolight deck sucked pretty hard :p  Did you have a good counter to it (fireshield, dimshield, pretty much any shield) or did it just get a fail draw?  I still hope it killed somebody with holy flash vs shard of sacrifice... that would be such a horrible way to go :p  That was literally the only reason I included them.  If I'd made a trimmed down deck of 35 cards, it probably would've done better, but I also wanted decking the opponent to be a possibility with all the healing available.

To give a frame of reference for how bad that light deck was, I have a monolife deck with 6 SoSa up right now, and when I left for work this morning, it was about rank 95.  Mono LIFE.  That's how fail this light deck was; it couldn't even compete with LIFE.

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Re: The Dragon's Arena Decks https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=28528.msg482613#msg482613
« Reply #123 on: April 17, 2012, 12:46:27 pm »
185hp, 30 wisdom, 2x card draw, 3x mark
Oracle Card: COCKATRICE
wins: 90 losses: 21 rank: 94 Rating: 125 age: 7



This deck did quite well, peaking somewhere around rank 30 and ~340 rating, from what I saw.  It got a ton of plays due to the new shards that came in a few days ago.  It got most of the losses in the last two days when its hp dropped; the SoSas become a lot less useful when that happens, unless you've got SoDs.

Today's card is Flesh Spider.  I could make a stupid SoSa deck again, but I'll try to find something new with that card.  Maybe spider/wings...?

edit: because the deck clearly has cockatrice as the card, not anubis.  copy/paste fail

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Re: The Dragon's Arena Decks https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=28528.msg485307#msg485307
« Reply #124 on: April 22, 2012, 07:06:36 am »
200hp, 60 wisdom, 2x card draw, 2x mark
Oracle Card: FLESH SPIDER
wins: 68 losses: 17 rank: 115 Rating: 132 age: 7
 
I didn't want to use SoSa again, and I didn't want to do monodeath.  I figured, how often are life and death paired together?  Not often... but here they are!



Given how dead simple the deck is, it's surprising it did so well.  Today's card is Silence.  I feel like channeling my inner asshole...

edit: What jerk put this deck up???
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Re: The Dragon's Arena Decks https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=28528.msg487741#msg487741
« Reply #125 on: April 26, 2012, 12:44:22 pm »
Oh no, not this guy again...

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He won't let me play any cards, and then when I finally do, he steals them!  Bastard!

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Re: The Dragon's Arena Decks https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=28528.msg489600#msg489600
« Reply #126 on: April 29, 2012, 04:35:22 pm »
200hp, 60 wisdom, 2x card draw, 2x mark
Oracle Card: SILENCE
wins: 67 losses: 12 rank: 26 Rating: 238 age: 7



This had to have been one of the most irritating decks to face, short of black hole/quicksand spam, and yet it got a lot of thumbs up, because I've never seen this deck in the arena before.  (well, I did see a similar one once, but that was after I posted this one :p)  The silences and steals make themselves a serious pain in the backside.  I got my own deck twice in the last week farming plat arena, and both times it would spam silences for the first 3-4 turns and then start taking my key cards... it was very annoying :p  The void shards helped against things like SoSa and healing, and then the phase dragons with SoW would make short work of whatever hp was left, and are extremely hard to deal with, as they are untargetable and ignore shields.  All in all, it was a fairly effective strategy.  Probably the best counter to this deck was something with a lot of speed like cremation rush, since it would basically ignore everything except the silences, and probably win before the dragons came down.

Today's card is arctic squid, and I'm looking forward to making a fun Shard of Patience deck with it, maybe involving physalias and poison and SoSa as well :)

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Re: The Dragon's Arena Decks https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=28528.msg490479#msg490479
« Reply #127 on: May 01, 2012, 03:10:43 am »
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Oracle Card: ARCTIC OCTOPUS
wins: 15 losses: 6 rank: >500 Rating: -126 age: 1



It went 6-0 the first night, giving me high hopes... then it kinda flopped the next day and a half and dropped out of platinum :p  It was a silly deck, but hopefully fun for all :)

I did playtest it a few rounds (with my SoSebow that contains 6 precogs) and discovered one game where the AI had squid into the 2nd row, I had creatures into the 2nd row, the AI had SoP and Inundation in hand and 30+ quanta, and IT DIDN'T PLAY INUNDATION!!!! WTF!?!?!?!  It's the 1% of games where inundation would actually DO something, and AI doesn't put it down?  *facepalm*  Even with that huge flaw, I left the deck as is anyway :p  It also used SoP very badly, waiting far too long before attacking.

Today's card is mind flayer.  I could do something SoP related... maybe a fractal ulitharid duo?  Hmm....

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Re: The Dragon's Arena Decks https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=28528.msg490899#msg490899
« Reply #128 on: May 01, 2012, 11:11:46 pm »
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Oracle Card: MIND FLAYER
wins: 2 losses: 4 rank: >500 Rating: -142 age: 1



Well, that was officially my worst arena submission result ever :p  Looks like stupid SoP mitosisquid > stupid SoP mindflayertal.  Hopefully it was fun to play against, for the six of you who actually got to see it :p

Today's card is boneyard.  I'll see what I can come up with for that.  I did one awhile back with fractal ball lightnings and bone walls and boneyards that was fun.  I could maybe also try immocatcher or otyughs duo or something, or maybe some random oraclebow.

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Re: The Dragon's Arena Decks https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=28528.msg491670#msg491670
« Reply #129 on: May 02, 2012, 11:25:58 pm »
200hp, 60 wisdom, 2x card draw, 2x mark
Oracle Card: BONEYARD
wins: 2 losses: 4 rank: >500 Rating: -141 age: 1

Tying with the previous deck for suckiness, I have no idea why it was thumbed down both times; I've NEVER seen this done before, even if it does suck balls.  I got emerald dragon for my card today, but I've had that a few times already, so I'll just make a new shard farm for people to play with.  Enjoy!

edit: seems there's a lot more people in platinum league now, after only 3 losses my shard farm was out.  Got druid staff today.  I've done adrenastaves before, but only as a mono.  I'm going to try it slightly differently this time... :)

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Re: The Dragon's Arena Decks https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=28528.msg493343#msg493343
« Reply #130 on: May 05, 2012, 06:12:00 pm »
165hp, 60 wisdom, 2x card draw, 3x mark
Oracle Card: DRUID STAFF
wins: 8 losses: 5 rank: 490 Rating: -101 age: 2



There really isn't much to say about this one.  Adrenastaves with twin universe, a one trick pony.  I got toadfish today.  I could do a SoP deck, but I'll try and think of something more unique than that.  Maybe a duo with life and go with a poison theme?

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« Reply #131 on: May 06, 2012, 08:54:53 pm »
200hp, 60 wisdom, 2x card draw, 2x mark
Oracle Card: DRUID STAFF
wins: 7 losses: 5 rank: >500 Rating: -130 age: 1



Another suck deck :)  Lucky for me I have no ego and don't care how these decks perform, or else it would be hurting like hell over the last few I've submitted :p  I got fractal today.  I have a fairly evil idea to make with that... :)  It'll probably suck too, but it'll be really annoying :p


 

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