Post by: dragonsdemesne on July 11, 2011, 10:40:30 pm
200hp, 60 wisdom, 2x card draw, 1x mark
Oracle Card: BONE DRAGON
Mark of DEATH
(all cards in this deck are upgraded, and the bone dragons were ivory dragons from the oracle and my max wisdom, but I don't actually own any ivory dragons, so I used bone dragons to show you the deck image as close as possible)
wins: 97 loss: 16 rank: 58 rating: 373 age: 5
Just thought I'd let people see what I'm using, since I'm about to change it up. I'm getting a bit nervous with that age, since it's already at -32hp and tomorrow it's going to be -64. I'll post the next deck after I quit using it as well. It's in my best interests not to reveal the deck while it's actually up in the arena, but there is no harm in revealing it after I'm done using it. My oracle card now is Aether Pendulum, which is another reason I want to switch it now; that's a decent card, and I'm worried that if I get a crappy card tomorrow I'll either have to build a junk deck or play with -64hp.
The idea of the deck was to Cremate the gemfinders/balls and drop lava destroyers, obviously, but with the added twist that when you cremate stuff, the soul catchers give death quanta for the ivory dragons that I had to use. I really don't like the death element and I couldn't think of any good deck based on death as the main element, so I decided to splash death in this way, and it did a lot better than I thought it would.
Post by: Thiefboy109 on July 11, 2011, 11:54:11 pm
Post by: dragonsdemesne on July 12, 2011, 01:34:19 am
Post by: Thiefboy109 on July 12, 2011, 11:23:09 pm
Yeah, if I were going to do this as a pvp deck or something, I'd use less bone dragons, but I had to use 5 for the arena. I'm not sure if the chaos power or thunderbolt were the best choices, either, but I figured the chaos power would allow for some explosive starts (playable with cremation) and the thunderbolt would be good creature removal. When I tested against the deck, the AI also is stupid and plays cremation before soul catcher on turn 1 :p Fortunately on further turns, the soulcatchers will already be there to do their thing.Yeah, i'm feeling kinda not so sure about the chaos power, maybe another quicksand?
Post by: dragonsdemesne on July 13, 2011, 10:15:42 pm
Mark of AETHER (well duh)
30 wisdom, 2x draw, 3x mark, hp was whatever was left but I think around 125-130
Oracle Card: AETHER PENDULUM (4/5 were upgraded)
I didn't expect this deck to do very well, but given my collection, it was about the best I could do in aether, and I couldn't really think of a duo that the AI could play (and that I could build with upgrades). The deck ended up at roughly about 30-10 win/loss; I forget exactly but I know it had a negative rating :p The age was only two days, and I ditched the deck asap because it sucks, and because my card today was Heal, and I built what I think will be a pretty nice deck with that. (I was so excited I forgot to write the stats for this deck :O ) I would've changed my deck after one day, but I got Rustler yesterday, which is about as bad as it gets, so I kept this deck for two days. The deck's rank fluctuated a bunch, and picked up a ton this morning (it went 11-1 last night I think) and peaked somewhere in the low 200s. Not very good, but with the suckiness of this deck, I'm surprised it even won half its games, so I'll take it.
The next one uses Heal, and I'm expecting good things from it, though I don't think I've ever seen a deck like it before, probably because it would suck without 2x draw/mark.
edit: in case I forget to record it next time, the Heal deck has 160hp, 60 wisdom, 2x draw and 2x mark.
Post by: dragonsdemesne on July 16, 2011, 10:38:32 am
(http://img834.imageshack.us/img834/9926/deckjf.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/834/deckjf.jpg/)
wins: 26 loss: 10 rank: 327 rating: -89 age: 3
165hp, 60 wisdom, 2x card draw, 2x mark (I gained a level while this deck was up, so it started at 160hp)
Oracle Card: HEAL
This was a pretty silly deck :p It's just based on the healing theme, obviously, and it was done mostly as an experiment to see how it would do. The answer is not very well :) It started out with a few less upgrades, but I upgraded a couple of the scorpions/epinephrines on the first day.
My next card is Immolation :D I already have six cremations upgraded, so I don't need it for that, but at least it means I can make a good deck today!
Post by: dragonsdemesne on July 17, 2011, 07:27:15 am
115hp, 60 wisdom, 2x card draw, 3x mark
Oracle Card: IMMOLATION
I'm surprised this deck didn't do better; perhaps people are metagaming against the destroyer/cremator deck now. I did have a few odd choices, like fire buckler, but even then I'm surprised it didn't do better. This deck should be able to kick the crap out of the cremator/destroyer/bone dragon/soulcatcher deck I put up first, and it did way better.
I'd probably have left the deck up for a few days and maybe tweaked it, but tonight I got PURPLE NYMPH so it is time to make a new deck :D
(http://img232.imageshack.us/img232/1110/decklc.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/232/decklc.jpg/)
Post by: Baritonium9 on July 17, 2011, 07:48:59 am
Post by: dragonsdemesne on July 18, 2011, 09:47:12 am
200hp, 20 wisdom, 2x card draw, 2x mark
Oracle Card: PURPLE NYMPH
(http://img706.imageshack.us/img706/2122/purpleb.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/706/purpleb.jpg/)
Yeah, it's a pretty stupid deck, but it has purple nymph :p I never tested it, but I suspect the AI wasn't very good at knowing when to use or save its quanta, given that there are quite a few decisions to be making.
Next card is EARTHQUAKE, so I'm making a new deck.
Post by: dragonsdemesne on July 21, 2011, 10:39:31 pm
Post by: dragonsdemesne on July 23, 2011, 01:40:03 pm
Oracle Card: EARTHQUAKE
wins: 46 losses: 10 rank: 114 rating: 134 age: 5
(http://img89.imageshack.us/img89/1268/earthquakev.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/89/earthquakev.jpg/)
This deck did alright, but it's starting to show its age at five days. I got Rain of Fire today at the oracle, and I don't want to risk getting a crappy card, so I'm taking down this deck. It's a pretty obvious strategy, drop graboids asap while being a dick with quicksand and rewind.
Post by: Thiefboy109 on July 23, 2011, 06:04:06 pm
Post by: dragonsdemesne on July 23, 2011, 06:08:10 pm
(http://img593.imageshack.us/img593/6091/lolpwned.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/593/lolpwned.jpg/)
I'd sure like to get my hands on all those nymphs... :)
Post by: Thiefboy109 on July 23, 2011, 09:03:10 pm
Post by: dragonsdemesne on July 26, 2011, 07:11:59 am
Post by: dragonsdemesne on July 27, 2011, 10:49:20 pm
Oracle Card: RAIN OF FIRE
wins: 37 losses: 17 rank: 388 rating: -215 age: 4
This deck started out okay, but I think it must have been just barely winning most of its games, because the last day or two it did significantly worse, as you can see from my last post, since then it only went 12-10. I modeled it after the bone dragon cremation/lava destroyer deck in my first post that did pretty nicely, but it just isn't as fast or powerful as that was.
(http://img220.imageshack.us/img220/6393/rainoffire.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/220/rainoffire.jpg/)
I figured that death, with soul catcher and bone wall, would provide good synergy with Rain of Fire, and by using crimson dragons and photons, I didn't need as much wisdom. (since crimsons are cheaper than ruby dragon, and I don't care if my photons produce light quanta) I suspect that the deck suffered from poor draws; sometimes you might get a killer hand, and other times it might completely flop.
The cards I skipped over were Obsidian Pillar (decent, but my deck was still new and doing okay), Purple Nymph (always nice to see, but that didn't work very well last week as a deck card) and Green Nymph. (also very nice to see, but again probably the AI would not play it right) Today I got Fate Egg, so this is going to be funny :p I have a lot of time towers/pendulums upgraded from "I've got GotP Time" that I have fully built and upgraded, so using a time card seemed like a good idea. Plus, even if the deck sucks, it should be extremely fun to play against!
Post by: dragonsdemesne on July 29, 2011, 01:04:28 am
Post by: Jappert on July 29, 2011, 05:55:51 am
Well, I was pleasantly surprised this morning. After making my fate egg deck (which I thought would suck) and having it 0-1 last night, I went to bed and then this morning it was 6-1 :) Not bad so far. I got Schrodinger's Cat today, so the Fate Egg deck gets at least another 24 hours to prove itself!
+1 for originality! I'd love to meet that one.
Post by: dragonsdemesne on July 29, 2011, 03:52:02 pm
Oracle Card: FATE EGG
wins: 12 losses: 5 rank: 309 rating: -73 age: 2
(http://img814.imageshack.us/img814/3705/fateegg.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/814/fateegg.jpg/)
It took me awhile to build this deck, as I tried a few different things before just tearing them apart and starting over. I settled on using the fate eggs and then picking as many annoying cards as possible as support. I had tested two games against it with my arena deck; the first it kicked my ass, and the second I beat it when it ran out of its deck. I'm just amazed it managed to stay in platinum at all and have over 50% wins :p
Today's card was Gravity Pendulum, so I'm building a new deck around that. Not sure exactly what it will be yet, but it will pack a lot of black holes... :) I'm thinking discord/hole, flying titans, or my best approximation of zse's vampire dagger/black hole deck.
Post by: dragonsdemesne on July 30, 2011, 07:36:31 am
Post by: Jappert on July 30, 2011, 09:34:23 pm
This all happened while being sucked dry by black holes obviously....
Post by: dragonsdemesne on July 31, 2011, 12:18:08 am
I just got obliterated by Chargers, flying Daggers and Titans.8) I just wish I could take credit for the deck :p I completely ripped zse's deck, only I had less upgrades, and instead of using unupped vampire stilettos I put in titans instead. (and I have more pendulums than he did, since I had to have 5) I've been upgrading gravity towers since I put the deck up, and I also gained a level in the meantime, so it's been slowly improving, as well. I ran up against my wisdom limit, so unless I want to take a big hp hit, I can't put any more upgrades in. I've got an upped titan and black hole I could use, but I don't think it's worth the hp loss to increase my wisdom. (which means zse must be quite a bit higher level than my 65, since he had max wisdom and at least the hp I have)
This all happened while being sucked dry by black holes obviously....
edit: Just visited the oracle and he gave me plate armor, so you'll all have to deal with zse's... I mean uh... MY monstrosity of a deck for another day at least.
Post by: dragonsdemesne on August 01, 2011, 07:59:00 am
Oracle Card: GRAVITY PENDULUM
wins: 24 losses: 3 rank: 97 rating: 221 age: 3
Deck: (the 7 towers and 2 of the chargers were upgraded in the first day or two as I won electrum; all the losses came early, I think the deck was 8-3 at one point, and then won 16 in a row once it got the towers upped)
4x Gravity Pendulum(U)
1x Gravity Pendulum
7x Gravity Tower
4x Elite Charger
2x Titan (unupgraded)
4x Black Hole(U)
2x Black Hole
3x Animate Weapon
5x Improved Steal
3x Vampire Dagger
Total: 35 cards (30 upgraded 5 not)
I got Flesh Spider today, which is a decent card, but I have almost no upgraded death cards, so I can't make a good deck with it. I'll be away all week and won't have access to the internet, so I changed the deck slightly and am going to leave it up until I get back Friday night. (sadly going to miss oracle spins on tues/wed/thurs, my first misses since starting elements :'( ) What I did was drop the mark to 2x, up wisdom to 60, and up HP to 175. Then I dropped the daggers and animates and one titan (7 cards) and added a 6th steal, a 5th/6th Elite Charger, and four Shard of Divinity (to help counteract the crap hp I'm going to have at the end of the week) With the upped wisdom, the titan and all 6 black holes are also now upgraded copies, as well as the 5th oracle pendulum.
I was inspired to use the SoDs by somebody's graboid deck in the arena last week. When I first saw it, I laughed because it had 1hp, and thought I was going to kick its ass. Sadly, it played several SoDs right away, and then beat me down before I could mount a defense. The dude's deck ended up winning with something like 70 out of 81 hp max, and I was pissed :p
I thought about making a farm while I'm gone, but I want to see how the deck does this way, which is why I posted the stats for it now; I significantly changed it.
So this is what it will look like now until Friday night. I had already changed it before taking a screenshot of the older one with daggers, so that's why I just wrote the list above.
[deck author=dragonsdemesne](http://img703.imageshack.us/img703/8887/gravitypendulum.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/703/gravitypendulum.jpg/)
Post by: dragonsdemesne on August 06, 2011, 12:06:15 am
145hp, 30 wisdom, 2x card draw, 3x mark
Oracle Card: GRAVITY PENDULUM
wins: 51 losses: 19 rank: 394 rating: -174 age: 7 HP: 47
I guess that's not bad considering the deck is down to 47hp :p I spun Druid Staff today, and might build adrenastaves later, but for some reason I can't access most of the arena right now; it just says loading please wait... and never loads :p All I can see are the deck stats, and a few other parts... gonna post details in a bug thread or something.
edit: Spun Dragonfly yesterday and Phase Spider today. The adrenastaves deck is 6-1 so far, so I'm leaving it up.
edit: Spun Enchant Artifact yesterday (uh lol? automatic skip I think there) and today spun Dark Pendulum. I haven't decided if I'll use that or not yet; it should be possible to make a good deck around that, but adrenastaves is at 31-7. Not sure if I can do better with the pendulum, but I have a day to figure it out.
Post by: dragonsdemesne on August 10, 2011, 05:03:59 am
Oracle Card: DRUIDIC STAFF
wins: 38 losses: 10 rank: 278 rating: -32 age: 4
(http://img15.imageshack.us/img15/913/druidicstaff.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/15/druidicstaff.jpg/)
It started off alright, but that might've been luck; it seemed to do worse the last 2 days, and I doubt -16hp changed its performance much, when it has all that healing anyway, and started at 195.
Gonna try building around Dark Pendulum now, and if it bombs in the next 2 hours, I'll either change it or use the new card from the oracle then.
edit: The dark pendulum deck got 0 plays in 2 hours, so I'm not listing it. I changed it to use Electrum Hourglass when the oracle gave me that. The first deck went 4-3 last night; it was a rainbow deck with lots of stall/control cards and phase dragons/pulvy for damage, but it only went 4-3 so I scrapped it and make a gotp/nightmare just now.
Post by: dragonsdemesne on August 11, 2011, 09:18:07 am
Oracle Card: GOLDEN HOURGLASS
wins: 10 losses: 5 rank: 348 rating: -100 age: 1 (4-3 as some stupid rainbow deck, 6-2 for this)
(http://img577.imageshack.us/img577/5905/hourglass.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/577/hourglass.jpg/)
GotP/nightmare is boring, and I spun a Phoenix, so I'm definitely changing it up tonight even though it's just been 1 day. This one should do pretty good :)
ffffffffffffffiiiiiiiiiiiiiiirrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrreeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
edit: Phoenix deck went 10-0 the first day; pretty happy about that :D Spun Spark, and I'm skipping that one.
edit: Skipped bone pillar yesterday (no good death cards upgraded here) and got obsidian pillar today. Phoenix deck is 21-0 so I'm leaving it up for another day :)
edit: the cheap phoenix deck is up to 29-1 (sad days! someone finally beat it!) and I spun a nova today. Not that supernova weenie is any less cheap than monofire gayness... not sure whether I'll change it yet. I kinda want to get the deck up in rank, and it won't do that if I change it, so I'll probably leave it alone. It's at something like rank 35 atm.
Post by: dragonsdemesne on August 17, 2011, 08:14:32 pm
Oracle Card: GOLDEN HOURGLASS
wins: 45 losses: 6 rank: 66 rating: 281 age: 6
Pretty happy with this deck's record; it was my best performance since my bone dragon immosoulcatcher deck. It was 28-0 at one point, and rank 25 at its highest. Mind you, with phoenix as the card, it's not hard to do well.
(http://img847.imageshack.us/img847/8584/phoenixf.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/847/phoenixf.jpg/)
Yeah, yeah, boring, unimaginative, but I made 450 electrum on it so stfu :p
Skipped gravity shield yesterday as my card, and today I got Quantum Pillar, and seeing as my age is 6 and that's -64 hp, and qp is a great card to use, I'm making a new deck. I might try something imaginative and fun, rather than a supernova speed deck or some other done-to-death arena deck. I got level 66 during this deck's run, so I get that extra point to spend on design as well :)
edit: The last two days I got Spark and Virus, so I skipped those. Today I got Toadfish for a card, which isn't bad, but I think it would be hard to make an arena deck based around it. For one, I don't have very many good upped water cards, and water takes more skill to play than, say, fire, so the AI won't be as strong with it. Plus, since the unupped and upped toadfish are completely different cards, it would be hard to make a deck around it unless it had either 0 wisdom (no upgrades) or 60 wisdom (detracting from my hp or mark) so I think I'll skip that one, too. The quantum tower deck I built is 25-3. I didn't follow through with my promise of a creative deck, instead making what I think of as the 'I'm an asshole ' rainbow deck... you've seen it in arena before; it's the one full of all the most annoying cards of the various elements >:D
Post by: dragonsdemesne on August 21, 2011, 11:41:01 pm
(http://img828.imageshack.us/img828/6726/2172o.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/828/2172o.jpg/)
Post by: maverixk on August 22, 2011, 03:15:01 am
Post by: dragonsdemesne on August 22, 2011, 08:22:15 pm
You do know you can just keep editing your first post to include all of the decks...This is true, but it's easier to do it this way, and easier to read, since the posts are shorter.
Post by: dragonsdemesne on August 24, 2011, 07:17:16 am
180hp, 60 wisdom, 2x card draw, 2x mark
Oracle Card: QUANTUM PILLAR
wins: 43 losses: 6 rank: 48 rating: 319 age: 7 (highest rank was in the 20s somewhere)
[deck author=dragonsdemesne](http://img196.imageshack.us/img196/5625/qpillar.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/196/qpillar.jpg/)
Basically me being a dick again with black holes, steals, and quicksands. Sorry...
On a slightly bitter note, I noticed that the #1 deck at this time was only 1 day older yet had over *100* plays >:( At least I gave him one of his losses :D
Post by: dragonsdemesne on August 25, 2011, 07:27:11 am
200hp, 30 wisdom, 2x card draw, 2x mark
Oracle Card: CRUSADER
wins: 2 losses: 3 rank: 376 rating: -95 age: 1
(http://img805.imageshack.us/img805/2398/crusaderp.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/805/crusaderp.jpg/)
I didn't think this would be good, but I didn't think it would be quite that bad! It's actually a good thing I only got 5 plays with it :p Next card is Abomination...
edit: The abomination deck was 2-1 the first day, and I almost gave it up in favour of death pendulum, but I decided to give it another chance. I'm glad I did, since now it is 10-1. Tonight I spun my first nymph for quite awhile, but I don't think I can make a deck out of it. (water one) I'm always happy to see a nymph, but I have nine nymphs now but only 5 unique ones (3x red, 2x purple, 1x aether, 1x life, and now 2x water) and I was kinda hoping the next one would be one I didn't have. (hi gravity and time) Incidentally, I think this is also a gold record for me from the oracle.
(http://img191.imageshack.us/img191/2109/winmd.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/191/winmd.jpg/)
edit: last two days I skipped Death Pendulum (I don't really like the death element) and Thunderstorm (one of the worst cards in the game) Up to 28-4 with Abomination :p
Post by: dragonsdemesne on August 30, 2011, 07:28:26 am
155hp, 30 wisdom, 2x card draw, 3x mark
Oracle Card: ABOMINATION
wins: 37 losses: 5 rank: 73 rating: 146 age: 5
(http://img717.imageshack.us/img717/5425/abomination.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/717/abomination.jpg/)
I decided to just build a discord/black hole deck around abomination, and since most of them were micros, threw in some butterfly effects for them. It seemed to do pretty well, even with very few sources of damage; the black hole/discord/butterfly must have locked most people down pretty good.
Post by: dragonsdemesne on September 03, 2011, 07:23:28 am
185hp, 60 wisdom, 2x card draw, 2x mark
Oracle Card: LAVA GOLEM
wins: 26 losses: 9 rank: 327 rating: -51 age: 4
(http://img714.imageshack.us/img714/2954/lavagolem.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/714/lavagolem.jpg/)
I'm pretty disappointed in how it performed. It's pretty much the standard faggy destroyer deck that comprises a large percentage of the arena, only I threw in quicksands to be even more annoying, and a random dragon for the heck of it.
Post by: Jappert on September 03, 2011, 07:51:55 am
- Explosions are good, but 12 is a few to many imo. 8 Explosions is more then enough for this deck.
- Rather add some damage with a fahrenheit or more Fire Lances.
- Rage pots for CC or to pump big golems damage.
- 3x mark...
Own fault for picking a lame deck though. Would have given -rep if it was possible!
(just like your original decks already got you +rep ;))
Post by: Tiko on September 03, 2011, 08:03:28 am
I'm not sure what I did wrong, but my golem deck sucked [...]You've only been punished by the Gods for using Immorush. Just be creative and your arena deck will prosper.
Post by: dragonsdemesne on September 03, 2011, 10:22:22 am
The dune scorpion deck I put up tonight isn't too original, but it is a bit different from most of the ones I've seen. The RNG was kind to me and I won my 6th Unstoppable 5 minutes after posting the deck, so I got to add that to the other 5 I already had in there :)
Post by: dragonsdemesne on September 09, 2011, 07:11:10 am
Post by: Rember on September 09, 2011, 07:31:53 am
Post by: Jappert on September 09, 2011, 08:07:05 am
Combined with wings shields and shockwaves it can beat quite a few decks (CCYB is a problem still)
Post by: dragonsdemesne on September 09, 2011, 09:14:21 am
Post by: Plantifant on September 09, 2011, 11:37:07 am
Yeah I'd love a shortbow as Oracle card. Get an air mark in there, fly those bows around and add some other rush elements to your liking.That's what I do too :P
Combined with wings shields and shockwaves it can beat quite a few decks (CCYB is a problem still)
It always gives some pretty good results like 30-2.
With a rank 20 :D
Post by: dragonsdemesne on September 10, 2011, 07:47:21 am
Oracle Card: DUNE SCORPION
wins: 42 losses: 6 rank: 87 rating: 114 age: 7
Sadly I didn't get too many plays with this one early on; even at 91 hp it went 8-2 :p I got Emerald Dragon today, so I think that rather than leave my deck at 27 (!) hp I'll make a deck around that. Occasionally I've seen dragon/mitosis/SoR decks in arena, so maybe I'll try that? Or maybe I'll just make a creature deck or... I don't really know yet :p Anyway, here's the week-old dune scorpion deck:
(http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/7414/dunescorpion.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/155/dunescorpion.jpg/)
I've seen lots of duo dune scorp decks based on momentum, and some duos based on chaos power or blessing, but I can't ever remember seeing one quite like this. Deliberately unupped novas make it easy to cast the powers and momentums on the scorpions, and the triple mark means one should be played on turn 2 every time it was drawn in the opening hand. No towers at all means novas ARE the towers, and so they are pretty much guaranteed in the opening hand. I then threw in some cheap 1-cost support cards; 2 explosions, a bolt and shockwave for removal, congeal and a fog for defense, and a nightmare just to mess with you. I reasoned that the AI will probably play it on its own scorpions, and unless the player has buff cards, a hand full of scorpions is useless even with time quanta. After the first day I realized that upped poison costs 2 :death, not 1 :death, and I took out the 4th copy and put in the blessing instead. (since there would be more strain on death quanta than the novas could make with 4) Lucky for me I only own 4 deadly poisons or I probably would have put in 6 and clogged the hand.
Looking at the list, I just noticed it has no weapon, so maybe something cheap would have been good in there. (longsword, vampire dagger or stiletto, jade staff) Alternately I could have scrapped the fog and left zero permanent targets, screwing up player explosions/steals and other removal.
Level 68 was also gained this week, so my emerald dragon deck will have more points than this one.
Ugh. Bad news: the emerald dragon deck only got 4 plays all day. The good news: all 4 were wins. I tested against the deck about 3 times, and it's way faster than I thought it would be.
Post by: dragonsdemesne on September 12, 2011, 07:13:30 am
Oracle Card: EMERALD DRAGON
wins: 10 losses: 2 rank: 263 rating: -23 age: 2
Didn't get too many plays with this one, but it's just as well; there are a lot of counters to it. *coughGravityShieldcough* It did better than I thought it would. I spun Lightning today, so I'm going with that, as it's a good card.
(http://img64.imageshack.us/img64/2867/emeralddragon.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/64/emeralddragon.jpg/)
Very basic deck. The wisdom worked out perfectly, as I didn't have more upgraded Mitoses, and Thorn Carapace vs Spine Carapace isn't strictly worse, as the thorns can kill 1/x creatures, at the cost of taking more damage from the attacks. Unfortunately, it bends over to stuff like Gravity Shield, Antimatter/Purple Nymph, and probably even most good quanta denial strategies, as long as they are faster than it takes to play the dragon/mitosis/SoR combo.
For Lightning, I'm tempted to go with a supernova weenie deck. I dislike those because although on a good draw they can do very well, on a bad draw they can't do *anything*. The AI seems to get better luck with them than I do, though; whenever I build one to use myself, I never draw enough supernovas :p
edit: (sept 18) Lightning bolt deck is at 52-5 after 6 days. I was debating whether I should keep going or not; the deck still has 126hp, since I started it with 190. I spun Flooding at the Oracle, so the fat man decided for me; the lightning bolt speedbow will remain up for another day.
Post by: dragonsdemesne on September 19, 2011, 07:10:38 am
Oracle Card: THUNDERBOLT
wins: 59 losses: 6 rank: 25 rating: 254 age: 7
(http://img69.imageshack.us/img69/1223/lightningga.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/69/lightningga.jpg/)
I don't have much experience making speedbows, so I looked at a few on the forums, got some ideas, and then changed it up a bit based on my own preferences. I'm pretty happy with how it did. 4 of the losses came in the first 15-20 games, so I was kinda worried it sucked at first, but it picked up speed later. I was a bit worried at age 6 that the deck would suck, and I had flooding that day so I had to keep it, but it only got 1 loss.
Today I needed a good card, bad, with only 62hp left, and the oracle favoured me with lava golem again. I'll see if I can do it better this time!
edit: yup, this is way better than my last lava golem deck. I think I've only had two decks so far that had a higher ranking, and those took longer than 2 days to do it. Too bad I had to do it with such a cheap ass card, but hey, I'll take what I can get. The deck is slightly unique, however, as I added my own twist to it, but at its core it's just another stupid cremation golem rush.
(http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/2185/huzzah.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/155/huzzah.jpg/)
edit: Need moar plays. MOAR.
(http://img685.imageshack.us/img685/5537/16903801.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/685/16903801.jpg/)
This is the highest I've achieved so far with any deck. I think my best previously was about 17th-18th; I'd have to scroll up to find which one that was, but probably the minor phoenix stall one. I'm hoping this one makes it to the top, even if it is with fire.
edit: 57-0 on the lava golem deck now. Thanks all for the tips the last time I got that card and had a crappy deck; it seems to have helped! Rank is at 4, so I might actually have a shot at the top with this one :)
edit: Still rank #4, because some shmo beat my deck... it's 64-1 now :p
edit: Rank #2 now with 75-2 record. That might get a bit worse; the deck only has 62 hp now. Rember is pretty far ahead in rating; I dunno if I can take that #1 spot.
Post by: dragonsdemesne on September 26, 2011, 08:51:45 am
Oracle Card: LAVA GOLEM
wins: 75 losses: 2 rank: 2 rating: 596 age: 7 (62hp remaining)
(http://img690.imageshack.us/img690/9112/rank2x.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/690/rank2x.jpg/)
Well, it's hard for me to be disappointed with that performance. One loss came after being I think 60-0, and was on day 6 if I recall; the other came just recently. I was really hoping to get to the top, and I still might. I'm going to leave the deck up, but I'm going to tweak it a bit to account for the horrible hp. I'll leave the deck up as long as possible in order to get a shot at the top spot, but once it's clear I can't get there, whether I've held it for any length of time or not, I think I might make a farm to give back to the community a bit. I think it's only fair, after being a bit of a dick with a deck like this :)
Anyway, with regard to some of the card choices, I went with thee basic destroyer/cremation core, as you can see. I then went with some pump spells (chaos power, unstoppable) and some stalling cards that only cost 1 of their element. I tested against the deck a few times with my own, and I couldn't even come close to beating it. The best I managed was one game where I got out a protected gravity shield against a pair of large lava destroyers. I thought I had it... until it played unstoppable and walked through the shield like it wasn't there.
Post by: pervepic on September 26, 2011, 02:34:17 pm
Post by: dragonsdemesne on September 26, 2011, 02:59:32 pm
I guess that the first loss came against me due to bad draw and gave me more than 600 Electrum. Thanks. But that decks looks good.YOU! <brings out machete and hacks off pervepic's head> Deck's at 79-3 now; I'd put in a bunch of SoDs, but it still got a loss, so I put the deck back to the way it was, except that the ball lightnings are now SoDs. I think #1 is out of reach now for me this time, but I'm going to give it another day to make sure.
Post by: dragonsdemesne on September 27, 2011, 12:28:32 am
edit: took the farm down after getting a good card from oracle tonight. Hopefully it helped a few people out.
Post by: dragonsdemesne on October 04, 2011, 07:10:44 am
Oracle Card: GNOME GEMFINDER
wins: 51 losses: 7 rank: 23 rating: 257 age: 7
(http://img233.imageshack.us/img233/9573/gnomee.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/233/gnomee.jpg/)
Yeah, looks familiar, doesn't it? :p I decided to tweak it a bit from last time by removing all of the permanents (imp fog shield, fahrenheit) so that there was nothing to steal or explode, and added in a shockwave and basilisk blood in their place. I also put in another explosion instead of a ball lightning. Unfortunately, the changes were for the worse, as you can see. The deck did make it into the top ten, even though it did worse than the previous immorush I posted. Looking back at the lava golem deck, I think that the only reason it didn't make #1 was because the deck that was #1 was REALLY good at the time; it was ahead significantly in ratings, almost 100 I think. (I think it belonged to matrimkk if I remember) This time, there weren't any decks that were way ahead of everyone else in rating.
Today's card is Pegasus, which will be interesting. I'm not sure what I'll do with it yet, but at least whatever it is, it won't be a stupid immorush again.
Post by: dragonsdemesne on October 06, 2011, 07:26:52 am
Oracle Card: PEGASUS
wins: 8 losses: 6 rank: 385 rating: -169 age: 2
(http://img847.imageshack.us/img847/2100/sillypegasus.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/847/sillypegasus.jpg/)
This wasn't a very serious deck, but it looked fun, so I posted it :) The goal was just to make a funny deck where the pegasi got nice and big with chaos powers and started diving. A better deck with Pegasus would have been some sort of speedbow, but that's boring.
I hope people enjoyed playing against it. I would have taken it down after only 1 day with that record, but I spun Flooding yesterday. I spun Liquid Shadow today, and rather than leave that silly pegasus deck up, I'm just going to post a farm with SoD/SoR in preparation for version 1.29. (not SoGs because since those are used much more frequently, they're much easier to win)
Post by: dragonsdemesne on October 13, 2011, 08:44:50 am
(http://img27.imageshack.us/img27/1475/28838038.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/27/28838038.jpg/)
It's kind of embarrassing to lose to my own deck, especially when it's using a card like Scarab as the oracle card, but at least I'm not alone. It's 58-10, rank 19, after 6 days. It's staying up at least 1 more day, too, because I got Catapult as a card tonight.
Post by: dragonsdemesne on October 14, 2011, 07:12:04 am
195hp, 60 wisdom, 2x card draw, 2x mark (entropy)
Oracle Card: SCARAB
wins: 65 losses: 12 rank: about 25-30 rating: ??? age: 7
7x Quantum Tower
1x Phase Recluse
2x Wings
1x Gargoyle
2x Flesh Recluse
2x Elite Graboid
1x Pulverizer
6x Supernova
1x Werewolf
1x Explosion
1x Lava Destroyer
1x Black Hole
1x Adrenaline
1x Giant Frog
1x Elite Pegasus
5x Elite Scarab (oracle card)
1x Abyss Crawler
I'm level 70 now, so the next deck will have more points. The new card is Shield; I only took it because this deck was getting old. It will probably only last one day. It's a mono-other silliness that will mostly serve to let people farm SoSa and SoSe off me. If you lose to it... well... lol.
Post by: dragonsdemesne on October 15, 2011, 07:07:21 am
200 60 wisdom, 2x card draw, 2x mark
Oracle Card: SHIELD
wins: 7losses: 4rank: 329 rating: -66 age: 1
(http://img847.imageshack.us/img847/6659/farmv.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/847/farmv.jpg/)
How this almost-farm did BETTER than the pegasus deck 2 posts up that was actually halfway serious is beyond me...
Tonight's card is Horned Frog, so buh bye to this deck.
Post by: dragonsdemesne on October 18, 2011, 07:32:16 am
Oracle Card: HORNED FROG
wins: 27 losses: 11 rank: 338 rating: -50 age: 3
(http://img832.imageshack.us/img832/4445/frogp.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/832/frogp.jpg/)
This somewhat unusual deck started really nice; it was 13-0 to begin, and so I had high hopes for it, but it quickly took a nosedive, as you can see. The frog seemed like a good card to use, but I didn't want a boring monolife deck, and those usually do pretty badly. As it turns out, this performed at about the same level, but at least it was more interesting. The deck has a lot of design flaws, which I was aware of but simply didn't care about, as I was trying to be unique, but hopefully it was at least something interesting to play against.
Got a very fun card tonight. It's not the best card for an arena deck (it's one I had before and the deck was quite poor) but I have to use it! *hint* Zanzarino might have a headache right now...
(http://img33.imageshack.us/img33/4710/yayrl.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/33/yayrl.jpg/)
Also gained level 71 since building the last deck. Yay arena grinding!
Post by: Plantifant on October 24, 2011, 12:42:56 pm
Post by: dragonsdemesne on October 25, 2011, 07:08:28 am
Oracle Card: PURPLE NYMPH
wins: 68 losses: 8 rank: 5 rating: 518 age: 7
This deck had a nice run, but I think it really needs the 3x mark, and with 27hp and a decent card at the oracle tonight, bone pillar, it's time for a new deck.
(http://img40.imageshack.us/img40/2633/dbhf.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/40/dbhf.jpg/)
I'm very surprised that this deck did as well as it did. I didn't even remember that I'd put a SoSa in there until just now; I must've been stumped as to what to add for the 35th card. Anyway, it's a pretty straightforward deck. The DBH lockdown buys time for the chargers to come out, and the nymphs hopefully take care of any creatures that manage to slip past the lockdown. I went with the 3x mark and less hp so that the black hole spam would be easier to maintain in the early game.
edit: lol it just suddenly occurred to me what horrible antisynergy the lone SoSa has with black holes and purple nymphs :p I wonder if it improved the deck or made it worse...
Post by: dragonsdemesne on November 01, 2011, 07:10:51 am
200, 60 wisdom, 2x card draw, 2x mark
Oracle Card: BONE PILLAR
wins: 74 losses: 12 rank: 7 rating: 575 age: 7
This deck was simply my favourite bronze league farmer, with +4 Ivory Dragon and +1 Tower to get it up to 35 cards. In Soviet Russia, the Arena farms YOU. The highest I saw this deck get was rank 3. I suspect a few of the losses came from the AI messing up the timing between Bone Wall and Shard of Sacrifice :p
I might've left the deck up for another day, but I got Crimson Dragon tonight and I don't want to be stuck with a crappy card. I'll try to make the deck a little more interesting, but I suspect it's just going to be an immoyawn.
Post by: Plantifant on November 01, 2011, 02:13:18 pm
(http://img259.imageshack.us/img259/2249/deaths.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/259/deaths.jpg/)But there are only 3 Ivory's in it? :P
200, 60 wisdom, 2x card draw, 2x mark
Oracle Card: BONE PILLAR
wins: 74 losses: 12 rank: 7 rating: 575 age: 7
This deck was simply my favourite bronze league farmer, with +4 Ivory Dragon and +1 Tower to get it up to 35 cards. In Soviet Russia, the Arena farms YOU. The highest I saw this deck get was rank 3. I suspect a few of the losses came from the AI messing up the timing between Bone Wall and Shard of Sacrifice :p
I might've left the deck up for another day, but I got Crimson Dragon tonight and I don't want to be stuck with a crappy card. I'll try to make the deck a little more interesting, but I suspect it's just going to be an immoyawn.
Post by: dragonsdemesne on November 01, 2011, 07:49:22 pm
Post by: dragonsdemesne on November 07, 2011, 12:23:05 pm
Oracle Card: CRIMSON DRAGON
wins: 62 losses: 8 rank: 40 rating: 266 age: 6
This goes to show you how important the thumbs-up is now for getting a highly-rated arena deck. (first deck I submitted under that system) The last two decks I submitted were rank 5 and 7, with similar win/loss ratios, and this one was rank 40. I can't blame anyone for giving it the thumbs down, though; it is pretty boring, except for the nymphs. I don't think it'll get to the top 25 in the next day, which is my goal with every deck, and I got Flying Weapon today, so I'm going with that, as I have a good idea for it that should get lots of thumbs up :)
(http://img207.imageshack.us/img207/3026/crimsondragon.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/207/crimsondragon.jpg/)
Post by: dragonsdemesne on November 10, 2011, 12:11:11 am
Oracle Card: FLYING WEAPON
wins: 15 losses: 5 rank: 274 rating: -11 age: 2
(http://img269.imageshack.us/img269/2296/flyingweapon.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/269/flyingweapon.jpg/)
This deck was just for fun, as the w/l clearly shows :) It got thumbs-up for most of its wins, since it is rather unique, but it's just not good enough to be competitive. I figured flying longbows would be fun, and I backed it up with wings and sky blitz. Then to make it unique I added in one card each from most of the other elements. The flesh recluse was picked to use web for the wings shields, just because I've never used web before :p
Today's card is Nymph's Tears, and I had an idea for it that I have NEVER seen done with it before, so I'm going with that. Even the flying longbows I've seen done, just not with all that extra crap, but this idea I've got for the Tears I'm pretty sure has never been done.
Post by: dragonsdemesne on November 12, 2011, 08:40:21 am
Oracle Card: NYMPH'S TEARS
wins: 8 losses: 8 rank: 484 rating: -221 age: 3
And here it is! It sucks really, really bad, but it was completely unique, as far as I know. If memory serves, 7/8 of the wins were thumbs-up, so the community also agreed with me.
(http://img707.imageshack.us/img707/119/nymphstears.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/707/nymphstears.jpg/)
The deck wins by deckout, unless it somehow kills by tickling you to death with light nymphs. I figure if nothing else, it should've been able to absolutely destroy SPlat :p In testing I beat it every time with my usual deck, so I knew that this wouldn't win, but I also knew it would be a new idea, so I submitted it anyway.
Got Forest Scorpion today, and since that's a decent card, and the nymph's tears deck will almost certainly be knocked out in another game or two anyway, I'm building a new deck with that.
Post by: dragonsdemesne on November 17, 2011, 12:51:06 am
Oracle Card: FOREST SCORPION
wins: 38 losses: 10 rank: 120 rating: 70 age: 4
(http://img716.imageshack.us/img716/5585/scorpionzl.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/716/scorpionzl.jpg/)
Pretty straightforward deck. Cast arsenics off the mark, play epinephrined scorpions, and hopefully win! Awfully hard for the AI to misplay, and the draws should've been pretty consistent. The unupped pillars were just because I didn't have any more upped ones; I figured unupped pillar > upped pend in this deck. If you don't have a green nymph, a 6th epi would be just fine. (which I also didn't have)
Today's card is gravity pillar, which allows for quite a few good decks. Discord/Black Hole, monogravity charger/hole, etc. I'll try to come up with something a bit unique, but I might just go back to tried and true :)
Post by: dragonsdemesne on November 23, 2011, 01:48:42 pm
Oracle Card: GRAVITY PILLAR
wins: 59 losses: 8 rank: 12 rating: 328 age: 7
(http://img202.imageshack.us/img202/2981/gpillar.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/202/gpillar.jpg/)
I decided to just be a jerk with quicksands and black holes :p The deck has enough denial that it managed to win two games last night with only 32hp max. Quick funny story: I was playing in plat league yesterday against a gravity/earth duo. It quicksanded all my pillars, black holed all my quanta, played chargers, shriekers, flying pulvies, and overdrives. I was thinking to myself... what an asshole :p Then I realized... that's almost exactly my arena deck :p (it wasn't mine, but very close)
Today's card is lycanthrope.
edit: Heh, the deck won another game as I was posting this. I think I'll leave it up and see how it does, but I'll switch to the lycan sometime later today.
edit: The deck got 4 more losses and no wins while I was at work :( Not too surprising, though, with 32hp.
Post by: dragonsdemesne on November 30, 2011, 11:13:44 am
Oracle Card: LYCANTHROPE
wins: 29 losses: 7 rank: 150 rating: 48 age: 7
(http://img141.imageshack.us/img141/3121/lycanthrope.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/141/lycanthrope.jpg/)
Due to the US Thanksgiving weekend, this deck got about half the plays of last week's deck, but it wouldn't have been a contender, anyway. The other unusual thing is that people voted last week's pulvy/hole/quicksand deck as MORE unique than THIS deck. Almost nobody gave this duo thumbs up, which in my mind is truly bizarre, because this deck is way more creative than last week's. A speedbow based on lycanthrope would have probably been a top 10 deck, but I wanted something creative instead of boring like that.
My card today is graviton mercenary, and I'm too lazy to build a speedbow for it this early in the morning, so I'm just putting up a 1hp farm for 24 hours. Enjoy!
Post by: dragonsdemesne on December 02, 2011, 02:21:11 pm
Oracle Card: ARCTIC SQUID
wins: 6 losses: 5 rank: 401 rating: -110 age: 1
(http://img834.imageshack.us/img834/8742/squidq.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/834/squidq.jpg/)
This deck was really fun (5/6 of the wins were thumbs up) and not intended to be serious, but it probably won't survive the day, so I'm replacing it. The idea was to freeze everything, breed stuff with mitosis, and just keep healing like crazy. Then there were a few random win conditions, and I was hoping that one of them would work while the squid/healing locked the board down. Puffers, dragon, spectres, and void shards all are win conditions approaching the goal from very different angles, so I hoped one of them would be sufficient.
Today's card is Feral Bond. It'll be another fun deck, but of a slightly different style, I think.
Post by: SilverHearts on December 03, 2011, 04:14:07 am
Post by: dragonsdemesne on December 03, 2011, 05:03:55 am
Post by: dragonsdemesne on December 03, 2011, 08:00:02 am
Post by: dragonsdemesne on December 04, 2011, 10:51:36 am
Oracle Card: FERAL BOND
wins: 7 losses: 4 rank: 380 rating: -69 age: 2
(http://img196.imageshack.us/img196/3269/feralbond.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/196/feralbond.jpg/)
Silly fun deck based on Feral Bond, SoR, and whatever. Apparently it's marginally better than the water/feral bond deck :p
Got Trident today, and I made a deck fitting the requirements for jappert's weapon master thread, with no exception cards. We'll see how that does... :p
Post by: dragonsdemesne on December 05, 2011, 10:13:52 am
Oracle Card:TRIDENT
wins: 2 losses: 5 rank: 453 rating: -188 age: 1
I don't know how it won even twice... I figure this deck could beat SPlat, with the purifies, land destruction, and SoPs versus SoSa, but that's about it. Maybe this deck merely proves that 2/7 of you are playing SPlat?
(http://img832.imageshack.us/img832/9071/tridentif.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/832/tridentif.jpg/)
Try not to laugh too hard :) Sadly, I don't think I can claim the title of "weaponmaster" in jappert's thread with this joke! :))
Today's card is Forest Spirit. I think I'll throw a speedbow together and make something that might actually have a chance this time.
Post by: dragonsdemesne on December 12, 2011, 01:49:45 pm
Oracle Card:FOREST SPIRIT
wins: 45 losses: 8 rank: 56 rating: 173 age: 7
(http://img687.imageshack.us/img687/8241/forestspirit.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/687/forestspirit.jpg/)
It's a bit of a goofy speedbow, sure, but it did alright, though nothing special. The highest rank I can remember seeing it was in the 30s.
Today's card is Hematite Golem. There's a few possibilities around that one... :)
Post by: dragonsdemesne on December 15, 2011, 01:47:53 pm
Oracle Card:HEMATITE GOLEM
wins: 15 losses: 5 rank: 281 rating: -16 age: 3
I'm a bit disappointed in how this one performed. I guess it probably just didn't have enough offense compared to most speedbows; it was probably too slow. It did seem to get more thumbs up than usual, though; I can't recall ever seeing a speedbow that didn't use QTs or pends before.
(http://img819.imageshack.us/img819/4710/hematite.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/819/hematite.jpg/)
I got reverse time this morning. If I don't screw up on deck design like I just did, this one should be a strong contender.
Post by: Tom Bombadil on December 16, 2011, 07:46:27 pm
Post by: Calindu on December 16, 2011, 07:50:47 pm
did you confuse rating with rank? maybe your deck suffered from bh, inserted in many speedbows and killer of your deck...From my own experience with those kinds of speedbows I think it's the stress on :light and :gravity quanta.
Post by: dragonsdemesne on December 19, 2011, 10:38:51 am
did you confuse rating with rank? maybe your deck suffered from bh, inserted in many speedbows and killer of your deck...Probably :p I switched them, since it didn't look right to have a negative rank!
200hp, 60 wisdom, 2x card draw, 2x mark
Oracle Card: REVERSE TIME
wins: 24 losses: 7 rank: 300 rating: -24 age: 4
(http://img341.imageshack.us/img341/7849/reversetime.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/341/reversetime.jpg/)
Worst. Ghostmare. Ever. The SoSas were me trying to put my own touch on things, but maybe it antisynergized with the nightmare hp gain too much. I've never really understood how come ghostmare does so well in arena, since I usually beat them pretty easily with my arena farmer. I made sure to include steals for sanctuaries and two hourglasses, because the ghostmares that do the best against me are the ones that steal my hourglasses and draw with them :p I suppose I'll just have to learn to build a better ghostmare... never done it before :p
Today's card is toadfish. Not sure what I'll do with that, maybe monowater, water/air, or water/life, but ghostmare is boring, and I suck, so my ghostmare sucks too, so it's changing.
Post by: dragonsdemesne on December 19, 2011, 10:40:23 am
Possibly, but from my own experience the best speedbows are the ones with black hole spam; those ones often kick my ass in the arena really hard, which is the reason I used three. And yeah, maybe I should've gone with Elite Pegasus instead of Morning Glory, especially without quantum towers. Also, I want to mention that this quoted post was calindu's 1337th post.did you confuse rating with rank? maybe your deck suffered from bh, inserted in many speedbows and killer of your deck...From my own experience with those kinds of speedbows I think it's the stress on :light and :gravity quanta.
Post by: Calindu on December 19, 2011, 12:31:57 pm
Those black holes spam decks are really hard to beat, but since you need 3 SNs to play the 2nd one I think that's the first problem.Possibly, but from my own experience the best speedbows are the ones with black hole spam; those ones often kick my ass in the arena really hard, which is the reason I used three. And yeah, maybe I should've gone with Elite Pegasus instead of Morning Glory, especially without quantum towers. Also, I want to mention that this quoted post was calindu's 1337th post.did you confuse rating with rank? maybe your deck suffered from bh, inserted in many speedbows and killer of your deck...From my own experience with those kinds of speedbows I think it's the stress on :light and :gravity quanta.
OFF Topic:Neah, it was my 1336th one :)).
Post by: dragonsdemesne on December 25, 2011, 08:08:47 am
Oracle Card: TOADFISH
wins: 30 losses: 10 rank: 242 rating: 14 age: 6
(http://img80.imageshack.us/img80/5265/puffer.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/80/puffer.jpg/)
A deck with Inundation and Shard of Patience and positive rating is a success in my book :p I think I'll call the deck SPlat: It's what's for dinner. SoP counters SoSa-based decks, purify counters poison, and puffer gets through shields like permafrost and gravity shield and makes a general nuisance of itself. Inundation stops RoL/Hope, and octopus and permafrost hopefully slow down rushes enough to win. Voids were mostly just to farm, but they'll beat some stalls. It got quite a few thumbs-up, and hopefully those who beat it won some SoPs :p
Today's card is Sundial. There's a ton of possibilities there for creative deckbuilding, especially when it's upped. I could do poison SoSa dial, but that's just evil... maybe something like Void Dial? I dunno yet... :)
Post by: dragonsdemesne on December 28, 2011, 07:47:47 am
Oracle Card: SUNDIAL
wins: 10 losses: 5 rank: 357 rating: -74 age: 3
(http://img848.imageshack.us/img848/9111/sundial.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/848/sundial.jpg/)
After careful consideration, I decided to make this silly deck solely to make people argue about whether it is a mono (because it needs only light quanta) or a trio. (because it has time and air cards) It turned out to be a good thing that it got very few plays, but hopefully some people got to farm my shards.
It is time to make a new deck. I cannot stress how excited I am about this one... (hint: see avatar/mood to the left)
(http://img521.imageshack.us/img521/2428/epicwinj.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/521/epicwinj.jpg/)
Post by: dragonsdemesne on January 05, 2012, 12:36:56 am
Oracle Card: AMBER NYMPH
After 6 days, the deck was 54-5 and in 6th place. After 7 it's 59-8 and still in 9th place. As overpowered as amber nymph is, it's actually funny that my purple nymph deck here http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,28528.msg444791#msg444791 (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,28528.msg444791#msg444791)did slightly better, even though that nymph isn't quite as good. (still awesome, though)
I got Quantum Pillar as my card today, but I simply have to know if this deck can win with 1hp, so I'm leaving it up some more and skipping that. I just wanted to post the peak stats after 6 days, as a point of reference.
edit: after 8 days, 64-13; it's still getting wins at 1hp :)) I got butterfly effect so the nymph/discord deck is staying up until morning.
edit: after 10 days, it finally dropped out of platinum at 66-24. I got solar buckler for my card, and having 10 of those in a deck isn't really going to be very successful, so I'm putting up a new shard farm today. Enjoy!
(http://img441.imageshack.us/img441/1364/ambernymph.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/441/ambernymph.jpg/)
Post by: Corri on January 05, 2012, 12:21:18 pm
This is the second arena deck I submitted. (the first was in gold)
200hp, 60 wisdom, 2x card draw, 1x mark
Oracle Card: BONE DRAGON
Mark of DEATH
(all cards in this deck are upgraded, and the bone dragons were ivory dragons from the oracle and my max wisdom, but I don't actually own any ivory dragons, so I used bone dragons to show you the deck image as close as possible)
wins: 97 loss: 16 rank: 58 rating: 373 age: 5
Just thought I'd let people see what I'm using, since I'm about to change it up. I'm getting a bit nervous with that age, since it's already at -32hp and tomorrow it's going to be -64. I'll post the next deck after I quit using it as well. It's in my best interests not to reveal the deck while it's actually up in the arena, but there is no harm in revealing it after I'm done using it. My oracle card now is Aether Pendulum, which is another reason I want to switch it now; that's a decent card, and I'm worried that if I get a crappy card tomorrow I'll either have to build a junk deck or play with -64hp.
The idea of the deck was to Cremate the gemfinders/balls and drop lava destroyers, obviously, but with the added twist that when you cremate stuff, the soul catchers give death quanta for the ivory dragons that I had to use. I really don't like the death element and I couldn't think of any good deck based on death as the main element, so I decided to splash death in this way, and it did a lot better than I thought it would.
Post by: dragonsdemesne on January 13, 2012, 12:18:52 am
Post by: dragonsdemesne on January 15, 2012, 07:30:55 am
Oracle Card: REVERSE TIME
wins: 72 losses: 12 rank: 20 rating: 321 age: 7
(http://img703.imageshack.us/img703/7849/reversetime.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/703/reversetime.jpg/)
Even though Rewind has antisynergy with Shard of Sacrifice (smart human should just not replay the creatures after rewinding until SoSa is done) the deck did reasonably well, and the highest I saw it at was rank 6. Even with that antisynergy, the rewinds do at least stall the human's draw for a turn, buying time for poison, or another turn to keep the SoSa chain going. SoSa obviously cannot be used now that the deck has 72hp max, so I'm changing it tonight. The new card is druid staff. I've had that one before, and I did adrenastaves with steals off the mark, and it didn't do very well. I'll try something a little more interesting this time...
Post by: dragonsdemesne on January 16, 2012, 02:21:50 pm
Oracle Card: DRUID STAFF
wins: 10 losses: 5 rank: 334 rating: -34 age: 1
(http://img198.imageshack.us/img198/175/druidstaff.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/198/druidstaff.jpg/)
Another failed druid staff deck! I think it did marginally better than the last one. I got a 4th (!!) purple nymph this morning, so I'm changing to that. I had a rank 5 deck with that awhile back, a gravity duo, but I'll try a new one.
Post by: dragonsdemesne on January 18, 2012, 07:19:07 am
160hp, 60 wisdom, 2x card draw, 3x mark
Oracle Card: PURPLE NYMPH
wins: 5 losses: 6 rank: 482 rating: -173 age: 1
(http://img821.imageshack.us/img821/1601/lolnymphs.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/821/lolnymphs.jpg/)
It's all the nymphs I own, minus the other purples. And please don't stare at the upped aether nymph! (she doesn't like it!) That was before I used the forum and knew 90% of pvp events were unupped.
Post by: dragonsdemesne on January 21, 2012, 09:01:14 am
(last time I made this type of deck: 75-2) http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,28528.msg427562#msg427562
200hp, 60 wisdom, 2x card draw, 2x mark
Oracle Card: SPARK
wins: 31 losses: 9 rank: 319 rating: -44 age: 3
(http://img521.imageshack.us/img521/2246/sparkz.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/521/sparkz.jpg/)
It's not quite as good as the previous deck I linked, but it's close. More ball lightnings but less gemfinders and a few other things, and then +1 purify and +2 SoSa for the metagame. That destroyer deck, however, was before cremation got nerfed and SoSa was created. This is probably why I've seen very few cremation decks lately in the arena; they just can't beat SoSa, as least in their standard form. Adding SoP or things like that would probably let you beat SoSa, but then you'd have dead cards in every other matchup.
Tonight's card is Golden Dragon. I'm not sure what I'll do with that yet, but this deck clearly isn't a contender anymore.
Post by: dragonsdemesne on January 22, 2012, 07:11:37 am
Oracle Card: LIGHT DRAGON
wins: 4 losses: 2 rank: 299 rating: -25 age: 1
I'm surprised this even got 4 wins... maybe because sundial counters SoSa. (assuming the AI even knows that) Any half-decent deck that doesn't rely on SoSa should have beaten this more often than not.
(http://img525.imageshack.us/img525/712/lightdragon.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/525/lightdragon.jpg/)
Chrysaora was spun today. It's time to be an ass with SoSa... (yet again)
edit: Chrysaora deck is rank 5 with 54-4 record so far :)
edit: 62-4, rank 2, and the deck above it is older, and the deck below fairly far away. I think this one will actually make it to the top :D I just wish that some of my decks that actually deserved a #1 had made it, like my lava destroyer deck or my purple nymph/BH deck; this one's going to make it only because of an unusually high number of plays; the rank 3-5 decks are 48-2, 44-1, and 51-3, and the same age. I've had other ones that would have been #1 if they'd gotten more plays, or there hadn't been someone with an abnormally high rating/ridiculous number of plays at the top, but #1 is #1, so if I do get it I'll be satisfied; I've earned it, just not with this deck, lol.
Post by: dragonsdemesne on January 28, 2012, 11:24:59 am
Post by: Calindu on January 28, 2012, 11:42:24 am
2000hp, 60 wisdom, 2x card draw, 2x markDarn, I wish I could have 2000 hp.
Oracle Card: SPARK
wins: 31 losses: 9 rank: 319 rating: -44 age: 3
Post by: dragonsdemesne on January 28, 2012, 04:55:34 pm
And I wish I could do better than a 31-9 W/L with 2000hp... I suck :'(2000hp, 60 wisdom, 2x card draw, 2x markDarn, I wish I could have 2000 hp.
Oracle Card: SPARK
wins: 31 losses: 9 rank: 319 rating: -44 age: 3
Post by: dragonsdemesne on January 29, 2012, 07:18:57 am
Oracle Card: CHRYSAORA
wins: 77 losses: 6 rank: 1 rating: 574 age: 7
(http://img88.imageshack.us/img88/8233/chrysaora.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/88/chrysaora.jpg/)
Somebody gave my deck the 6th loss in the last few minutes... shame on them! I'm posting the deck now because I'm going to add SoD in place of some cards to compensate for the 72hp max it has now. I doubt it'll survive for long with that hp penalty, but I'll keep it going as long as I can, and hopefully some of you will get some nice electrum out of it!
The lone puffer was because I figured the deck would get a lot of water quanta piling up quickly (the reason why I only had double mark and maxed everything else) that it didn't need. Even with only 2/6 upped SoSas it managed to do very well; I can't really complain. For the record, rank #1 gives 5x electrum rewards, which I didn't know until now, as the best I have achieved in the arena is rank #2 before this.
edit: I've tweaked the deck slightly to account for the 1hp max, including a 3x mark for hp that no longer helps. I'm still 85-12 and rank #3 and it's day 9... wtf?
edi: 87-19 / rank 46... still keeping the deck up until tomorrow because my card was turtle shield... yuck.
edit: 89/24 on day 10... :) Light Pend today from oracle; I think I'll just leave this up so you can farm SoSa/SoD from me, though. I'm too lazy to figure out a good light deck this morning.
edit: 91-27 on day 11, and rank 435. Acceleration is the card today, so I'm skipping that and seeing if the deck can survive another day.
edit: 93-29 on day 11 and the deck finally dropped out of the top 500. It got 16 wins and 23 losses while at 1 hp :p My card was acceleration, so I'll just put up a farm until tomorrow. Enjoy! :)
Post by: dragonsdemesne on February 05, 2012, 07:11:45 am
Oracle Card: QUINTESSENCE
wins: 11 losses: 4 rank: 281 rating: -16 age: 2
(http://img51.imageshack.us/img51/6989/quintv.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/51/quintv.jpg/)
This deck was designed to punish exactly one deck archetype; the kind that has creatures but no form of board control of any sort. Apparently that's 11/15ths of you! :)) If you can't deal with a quinted nymph, you lose; otherwise, you clobber this deck.
Today's card is purify. Quite a few possibilities with that one, and it's great against the current generation of arena farmers.
Post by: dragonsdemesne on February 10, 2012, 02:07:42 pm
Oracle Card: PURIFY
wins: 42 losses: 8 rank: 66 rating: 320 age: 5
(http://img41.imageshack.us/img41/9791/purify.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/41/purify.jpg/)
There was some sort of problem with platinum arena this week, so the statistics might not be entirely accurate this time. The deck was in the top 25 briefly, but so were 0 day old decks that were like 5-0, due to some sort of weirdness. Anyway, here's the deck; I expected it to do alright (maybe top 100, as it did) but I didn't expect miracles. Platinum arena does seem to have returned to normal (there were 0 day old decks in top 100, and the #1 deck only had like 400 rating, instead of the usual 600-700) and today's card is Crimson Dragon, so I'll see what I can make happen here.
Post by: dragonsdemesne on February 15, 2012, 01:56:10 pm
Oracle Card: CRIMSON DRAGON
wins: 50 losses: 4 rank: 116 rating: 101 age: 5
(http://img812.imageshack.us/img812/3026/crimsondragon.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/812/crimsondragon.jpg/)
This deck did extremely well, far better than I was expecting. However, due to the arena bug that was occurring, the first 2-3 days this deck was up it had a negative rating. At one point it had a 32-2 win record but had negative rating :p With a 50-4 record, it's probably a top 10 deck, though. I'm really not sure how it did as well as it did, but I guess simple is good :p Black hole for the first several turns to stall to give the dragons time to beat down worked great. If I get one of the cards in this deck in the future, I might make it again, since the arena rating system is working now, and I can see how it would actually perform.
Today's card is Wyrm. The quality of that card plus the bugged rating of the previous deck has convinced me to make a new deck, even though this one could probably survive another day or two easily.
Post by: dragonsdemesne on February 22, 2012, 01:47:51 pm
Oracle Card: WYRM
wins: 55 losses: 7 rank: 20 rating: 226 age: 7
(http://img51.imageshack.us/img51/4158/wyrmz.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/51/wyrmz.jpg/)
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Looks like last week's deck, doesn't it? :p It's just air instead of fire. I was curious to see how a similar deck would do, but in a totally different element, to see whether it was the black hole spam or the other cards that were getting it the wins. It did about as well, so it's the black holes. It was briefly in the top 10, but it took a couple of losses right after, which means the last deck would've been top 10 as well if the arena rating system hadn't been broken. It also took two of the losses while at 32hp.
Next card is photon. I'm going to try and find something other than cremation rush or rol/hope for this. I also finally gained another level (73) so I've got another +5 hp to play with :p
Post by: Calindu on February 22, 2012, 02:08:28 pm
Luckily for me, your deck doesn't beat poison dials.
Post by: dragonsdemesne on February 22, 2012, 02:11:33 pm
Post by: dragonsdemesne on February 24, 2012, 12:24:05 am
185hp, 30 wisdom, 2x card draw, 3x mark
Oracle Card: WYRM
wins: 6 losses: 5 rank: 534 Rating: -152 age: 1
So THIS is how bad your deck has to be to fail in platinum league... wow :p It was 4-1 when I went to work, so I thought maybe it would survive somehow, but people gave it the trouncing it deserved today. I figure if nothing else, at least nobody has seen this deck before; I know I haven't :p And now we all know why :) I simply had to do something more interesting with photon than use it for immo fodder or rol/hope.
Well, seeing as I have to make a new deck to get plays today, I'll do so. Fortunately, that card is Bone Wall. I'll try to do something interesting that isn't just SoSa spam. I've also already done cremation/bone wall in a duo. Maybe I'll make a Schrodinger's Cat deck or some sort of ball lightning deck...
Post by: Anthraxx on February 24, 2012, 04:05:27 pm
Post by: zhangvict on February 25, 2012, 03:13:31 pm
Post by: Calindu on February 25, 2012, 03:16:26 pm
I think you should have added a hope as well as a miracle. The rays of light actually harm the deck since they have no other use than to generate quanta. Towers fulfill that purpose better.Actually RoLs are better than towers because you actually get 1 damage per turn, 2 with skyblitz.
And now dragon haves a bone wall deck, hope it does well!
Post by: dragonsdemesne on February 25, 2012, 04:39:16 pm
The bone wall deck is only 7-3. It's an aether/death duo using fractal ball lightning, soulcatcher, condors, and ivory dragon. It won the one game I tested against it; I wanted to see what the fractal priority was. It fractals ball lightnings before condors, which is what I wanted it to do.
Post by: dragonsdemesne on February 26, 2012, 07:26:07 am
Oracle Card: BONE WALL
wins: 8 losses: 6 rank: 471 Rating: -123 age: 3
(http://img406.imageshack.us/img406/3060/bonewall.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/406/bonewall.jpg/)
One more loss will kill this deck, and today's card is nightmare, so here's the old deck. The AI doesn't know how to play it very well, but I was hoping that at least through lucky topdecks it would happen to play things in the right order at least some of the time :p A human, for instance, would hang on to at least one ball lightning for fractalling, and know when to fractal balls, when condors, and when dragons. I'm hoping it was an enjoyable deck to play against; it sure wasn't meant to be serious! :)
I'm not sure what I'll do with the nightmare yet, but I don't want to do boring ghostmare, and the next most obvious choice, speedbow, is also boring. I'll try to figure something out...
Post by: dragonsdemesne on March 03, 2012, 08:06:33 am
Oracle Card: OTYUGH (nightmare was skipped because arena decks couldn't be created that day due to server problems)
wins: 25 losses: 9 rank: 399 Rating: -82 age: 5
(http://img813.imageshack.us/img813/3926/otyugh.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/813/otyugh.jpg/)
Despite how obvious this deck is, (chaos power on otyughs) I've never actually seen it done in the arena before. So, of course, I had to post an untried deck to the arena. As you can see, it sucks, but at least hopefully people had fun. Based on the low number of thumbs-ups, though, I guess other people have seen this done before, even though I hadn't come across it.
Tonight's card is life pendulum. Not sure what I can make that's creative with that, but I'm tired of this deck.
edit: It's a silly, silly deck :) If it wins any games, you all sux!
Post by: dragonsdemesne on March 05, 2012, 01:50:24 pm
Oracle Card: LIFE PENDULUM
wins: 12 losses: 5 rank: 388 Rating: -72 age: 2
(http://img201.imageshack.us/img201/2346/lifepend.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/201/lifepend.jpg/)
Lifestall! Yeah umm... adrenalined scorpions and a crapton of stuff to heal with, then carapace to kill creatures, mitosis to breed, and you get... life stall. LIFE STALL. RAWR.
I'd have left it up longer, but I got steal today; that's a great card :D
Post by: zhangvict on March 05, 2012, 01:53:41 pm
Post by: dragonsdemesne on March 05, 2012, 06:34:56 pm
Yep, lifestall poison rox. I made a very similar 35 card version of that deck for gold a while back and pretty much everybody voted it up, though it had a horrible record XD. I think 35 cards is better since u get scorpions out faster + mitosis and bonds.Yeah, it would have been a better deck without the voids/staffs/animates, but I'm as much about making fun decks in the arena now, and don't care as much about making a winning deck. I want my decks to be able to stay in platinum for a week, but I no longer really care if it's top ten material anymore.
I'm not sure how the deck I have up now is, as I went to work right after (and can't see the stats from work) but it's pests/steals with SoV, a couple dragons, a dusk, vamp dagger, and one or two surprises :) Nothing particularly imaginative, but I don't think I've put up a pest deck before, and those seem to do very well (although I usually beat them easily with rainbow control) so this is an experiment to see how some random monodarkness stuff thrown together in 2 minutes does.
I'd thought about making dark/earth or dark/fire and using quicksand or explosion for even more annoying removal, but I decided not to be THAT much of a jerk. Maybe the next time I get a dark card I'll make raging voodoo, since I have three red nymphs.
edit: wtf the deck is 8-0 after coming home from work... do people really have that much trouble with pests?
edit: after 6 days, the deck is 61-8; the highest I saw it was 9th place. It's probably going down from here; I'll let people farm it until it dies, unless I get a nymph first. (haven't gotten one in a -really- long time)
Post by: dragonsdemesne on March 12, 2012, 09:34:54 am
Oracle Card: STEAL
wins: 70 losses: 11 rank: 11 Rating: 320 age: 7
(http://img571.imageshack.us/img571/4125/stealy.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/571/stealy.jpg/)
Seriously? This went 70-11? But it's so... slow. I can see it really capitalizing when the player gets bad quanta draws, with the pests and steals on your towers, but how's it supposed to win otherwise? If you can outproduce the quanta drain, this deck has no chance :p
Today's card is burning pillar. I think I'll do raging voodoos :) I definitely don't want to do immorush because that's boring, and I already know it will do very well except against SoSa decks, and I definitely don't want to do firestall, because people hate it and it's not that good against most good arena decks.
Post by: dragonsdemesne on March 18, 2012, 07:53:47 am
Oracle Card: BURNING PILLAR
wins: 50 losses: 12 rank: 179 Rating: 24 age: 6
(http://img696.imageshack.us/img696/4236/burningpillar.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/696/burningpillar.jpg/)
It's what Hecate could've been... Nymph power ftw! I didn't get as many thumbs-up as I was expecting, but I guess it's only the three nymphs that makes it unusual. Today's card is chaos seed, and I think I'm going to make a deja vu deck.
Post by: dragonsdemesne on March 22, 2012, 01:01:28 pm
Oracle Card: CHAOS SEED
wins: 30 losses: 11 rank: 440 Rating: -88 age: 4
(http://img214.imageshack.us/img214/4308/chaospower.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/214/chaospower.jpg/)
Another silly deck, where every single card was meant to synergize with the deja vus. It doesn't look like it will last the day, so iI'm making a new deck; today's card is parasite. I'm not really sure what I can do with that that hasn't been done before; if I can't think of anything, I'll just throw a bunch of SoSa/SoVs in with it for farming.
Post by: dragonsdemesne on March 26, 2012, 04:08:27 am
Step 1: Spin oracle. The card you get is mostly irrelevant, but in this case it was parasite.
Step 2: Put 24 random cards that match the element of the card you picked. Alternately, you may use 'other' cards or form a duo/rainbow if you wish, but it is not necessary. In this case, I chose a death/darkness duo.
Step 3: Add six Shard of Sacrifice. (the most important step, and arguably, the only important step)
Step 4: Watch what was intended to be an SoV/SoSa farm get a 32-4 record in 3 days at rank 40.
Step 5: Watch people inexplicably give you thumbs up for your sucky deck, further padding its rank.
Go Parasite deck!!!! :p I suppose it is rather unique, as I haven't seen my idea done before, but it's really a lousy deck except for the SoSas, or so I thought. I can't even really imagine what's losing to it, other than maybe cremation/speedbow rushes, but against platinum, I don't expect players to be using those. Against slower, weaker decks in the lower leagues, sure, but especially now that very few low hp decks are left up in platinum unless they're really good, and the prevalence of SoSa, rush decks are a poor choice to farm platinum.
Post by: dragonsdemesne on March 29, 2012, 12:40:46 pm
200hp, 60 wisdom, 2x card draw, 2x mark
Oracle Card: PARASITE
wins: 62 losses: 11 rank: 36 Rating: 198 age: 7
I thought this was going to be mostly a farm, but not only did it do well, it got a lot of thumbs up ratings. Parasite doesn't even synergize with SoSa, because when the poisoned creatures die, the SoSa math is thrown out of whack. Even with SoSas, I don't see why this deck did so well, but whatever :p
Today's card is Forest spirit. I'd been hoping for a life card, so I could make monolife with SoSa just to prove how OP it is, but forest spirit necessitates at least a duo. I remember doing a speedbow with forest spirit already, so I'll find something else.
Post by: dragonsdemesne on April 01, 2012, 11:19:00 am
Oracle Card: FOREST SPIRIT
wins: 12 losses: 7 rank: 462 Rating: -139 age: 3
(http://img407.imageshack.us/img407/8241/forestspirit.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/407/forestspirit.jpg/)
I took the healing/stall theme and put it with the spirits, buying them time to grow. It seems like it should have done a little better than it did, but I still wasn't expecting much. It is a very easy deck to counter with the right cards, which was probably the issue. Today's card is light pillar and I know exactly what I want to do with it. (hint: SoSa abuse)
Post by: dragonsdemesne on April 05, 2012, 03:38:03 am
200hp 60 wisdom, 2x card draw, 2x mark
Oracle Card: LIGHT PILLAR
wins: 8 losses: 6 rank: under 500 Rating: bad age: about 2
Exact stats lost because forum was down and I couldn't post. This deck proves that it IS possible to make a bad arena deck with 6x SoSa :p I thought it would be a tougher deck to beat than it was, but it does bend over to shields like fire buckler, dimensional shield, thorn carapace, etc. I just really, REALLY hope that at least one of its wins came from holy flashing someone while they had SoSa up :p
Today's card is anubis, and the deck is 4-0 so far, with all 4 as thumbs up :) It is a deck I've never seen before, so that likely accounts for it.
Post by: dragonsdemesne on April 09, 2012, 10:10:52 pm
Post by: dragonsdemesne on April 10, 2012, 12:43:50 pm
Oracle Card: ANUBIS
wins: 39 losses: 14 rank: 343 Rating: -56 age: 6
(http://img69.imageshack.us/img69/1587/anubiscn.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/69/anubiscn.jpg/)
Well, this anubis deck did better than I thought it would :) Time rush, with bolts for control and SoSa because it's SoSa :) It got a lot of thumbs ups. Almost nobody uses anubis in the arena, and I've never seen anyone try this sort of deck, even though it's a really simple idea.
Today's card is cockatrice, which means monolife SoSa! I hope to prove a point with that... we'll see how it does!
Post by: Damage on April 12, 2012, 03:54:41 pm
(http://img705.imageshack.us/img705/3703/lightpillar.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/705/lightpillar.jpg/)
200hp 60 wisdom, 2x card draw, 2x mark
Oracle Card: LIGHT PILLAR
wins: 8 losses: 6 rank: under 500 Rating: bad age: about 2
Exact stats lost because forum was down and I couldn't post. This deck proves that it IS possible to make a bad arena deck with 6x SoSa :p I thought it would be a tougher deck to beat than it was, but it does bend over to shields like fire buckler, dimensional shield, thorn carapace, etc. I just really, REALLY hope that at least one of its wins came from holy flashing someone while they had SoSa up :p
Today's card is anubis, and the deck is 4-0 so far, with all 4 as thumbs up :) It is a deck I've never seen before, so that likely accounts for it.
I remember.I EM'd that one.Lulz! ^^
Post by: dragonsdemesne on April 12, 2012, 09:18:14 pm
To give a frame of reference for how bad that light deck was, I have a monolife deck with 6 SoSa up right now, and when I left for work this morning, it was about rank 95. Mono LIFE. That's how fail this light deck was; it couldn't even compete with LIFE.
Post by: AnnaMall on April 12, 2012, 10:44:45 pm
Noticed that you lately experiment alot with sosa. I never really managed to make a top 10 sosa deck, though everyboby seems to achieve this. I like grinding alot in plat usually with sosa based decks. I find that a really strong winning condition on a sosa vs sosa arena deck is deckout. i manage to hold and manipulate AI dmg for the 6 sosa of mine to be enough but i usully deck out. I think a 12 sosa arena deck is primarily a deckouter. Would you agree?
*thinking of this i m going to make an oracle sosa*
Post by: dragonsdemesne on April 12, 2012, 11:16:21 pm
And yes, lately I have used SoSa a lot, because I'm trying to prove that even with a stupid deck, if 6 SoSa are included, it's still a contender, and except for that joke of a light deck, they've all done reasonably well, and the physalia one even held the #1 spot. For the last couple months, I've been making creative decks, as opposed to winning decks, although some have been both. The only one I actually remember copying directly from someone else's post (zse) was a gravity/dark duo back in August. (I remember because I left it up over my vacation) There aren't a lot of ways to do monodeath or immorush or whatever, but they were still built from scratch even if they look similar to other people's.
Post by: Damage on April 14, 2012, 12:08:04 pm
Yeah, that monolight deck sucked pretty hard :p Did you have a good counter to it (fireshield, dimshield, pretty much any shield) or did it just get a fail draw? I still hope it killed somebody with holy flash vs shard of sacrifice... that would be such a horrible way to go :p That was literally the only reason I included them. If I'd made a trimmed down deck of 35 cards, it probably would've done better, but I also wanted decking the opponent to be a possibility with all the healing available.
To give a frame of reference for how bad that light deck was, I have a monolife deck with 6 SoSa up right now, and when I left for work this morning, it was about rank 95. Mono LIFE. That's how fail this light deck was; it couldn't even compete with LIFE.
Yeah,I had Dims.I had Twin Universe.I had a Ruby Dragon. ^^
Post by: dragonsdemesne on April 17, 2012, 12:46:27 pm
Oracle Card: COCKATRICE
wins: 90 losses: 21 rank: 94 Rating: 125 age: 7
(http://img822.imageshack.us/img822/8701/cockatrice.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/822/cockatrice.jpg/)
This deck did quite well, peaking somewhere around rank 30 and ~340 rating, from what I saw. It got a ton of plays due to the new shards that came in a few days ago. It got most of the losses in the last two days when its hp dropped; the SoSas become a lot less useful when that happens, unless you've got SoDs.
Today's card is Flesh Spider. I could make a stupid SoSa deck again, but I'll try to find something new with that card. Maybe spider/wings...?
edit: because the deck clearly has cockatrice as the card, not anubis. copy/paste fail
Post by: dragonsdemesne on April 22, 2012, 07:06:36 am
Oracle Card: FLESH SPIDER
wins: 68 losses: 17 rank: 115 Rating: 132 age: 7
I didn't want to use SoSa again, and I didn't want to do monodeath. I figured, how often are life and death paired together? Not often... but here they are!
(http://img3.imageshack.us/img3/6830/fleshspider.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/3/fleshspider.jpg/)
Given how dead simple the deck is, it's surprising it did so well. Today's card is Silence. I feel like channeling my inner asshole...
edit: What jerk put this deck up???
(http://img38.imageshack.us/img38/397/adgadrg.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/38/adgadrg.jpg/)
Post by: dragonsdemesne on April 26, 2012, 12:44:22 pm
(http://img823.imageshack.us/img823/1995/29555708.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/823/29555708.jpg/)
He won't let me play any cards, and then when I finally do, he steals them! Bastard!
(http://img35.imageshack.us/img35/6612/33890148.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/35/33890148.jpg/)
(stupidness of cards I have is due to this being a SoSe deck :) )
Post by: dragonsdemesne on April 29, 2012, 04:35:22 pm
Oracle Card: SILENCE
wins: 67 losses: 12 rank: 26 Rating: 238 age: 7
(http://img546.imageshack.us/img546/6312/silencehb.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/546/silencehb.jpg/)
This had to have been one of the most irritating decks to face, short of black hole/quicksand spam, and yet it got a lot of thumbs up, because I've never seen this deck in the arena before. (well, I did see a similar one once, but that was after I posted this one :p) The silences and steals make themselves a serious pain in the backside. I got my own deck twice in the last week farming plat arena, and both times it would spam silences for the first 3-4 turns and then start taking my key cards... it was very annoying :p The void shards helped against things like SoSa and healing, and then the phase dragons with SoW would make short work of whatever hp was left, and are extremely hard to deal with, as they are untargetable and ignore shields. All in all, it was a fairly effective strategy. Probably the best counter to this deck was something with a lot of speed like cremation rush, since it would basically ignore everything except the silences, and probably win before the dragons came down.
Today's card is arctic squid, and I'm looking forward to making a fun Shard of Patience deck with it, maybe involving physalias and poison and SoSa as well :)
Post by: dragonsdemesne on May 01, 2012, 03:10:43 am
Oracle Card: ARCTIC OCTOPUS
wins: 15 losses: 6 rank: >500 Rating: -126 age: 1
(http://img43.imageshack.us/img43/8896/squiddi.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/43/squiddi.jpg/)
It went 6-0 the first night, giving me high hopes... then it kinda flopped the next day and a half and dropped out of platinum :p It was a silly deck, but hopefully fun for all :)
I did playtest it a few rounds (with my SoSebow that contains 6 precogs) and discovered one game where the AI had squid into the 2nd row, I had creatures into the 2nd row, the AI had SoP and Inundation in hand and 30+ quanta, and IT DIDN'T PLAY INUNDATION!!!! WTF!?!?!?! It's the 1% of games where inundation would actually DO something, and AI doesn't put it down? *facepalm* Even with that huge flaw, I left the deck as is anyway :p It also used SoP very badly, waiting far too long before attacking.
Today's card is mind flayer. I could do something SoP related... maybe a fractal ulitharid duo? Hmm....
Post by: dragonsdemesne on May 01, 2012, 11:11:46 pm
Oracle Card: MIND FLAYER
wins: 2 losses: 4 rank: >500 Rating: -142 age: 1
(http://img192.imageshack.us/img192/9508/mindflayer.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/192/mindflayer.jpg/)
Well, that was officially my worst arena submission result ever :p Looks like stupid SoP mitosisquid > stupid SoP mindflayertal. Hopefully it was fun to play against, for the six of you who actually got to see it :p
Today's card is boneyard. I'll see what I can come up with for that. I did one awhile back with fractal ball lightnings and bone walls and boneyards that was fun. I could maybe also try immocatcher or otyughs duo or something, or maybe some random oraclebow.
Post by: dragonsdemesne on May 02, 2012, 11:25:58 pm
Oracle Card: BONEYARD
wins: 2 losses: 4 rank: >500 Rating: -141 age: 1
Tying with the previous deck for suckiness, I have no idea why it was thumbed down both times; I've NEVER seen this done before, even if it does suck balls. I got emerald dragon for my card today, but I've had that a few times already, so I'll just make a new shard farm for people to play with. Enjoy!
edit: seems there's a lot more people in platinum league now, after only 3 losses my shard farm was out. Got druid staff today. I've done adrenastaves before, but only as a mono. I'm going to try it slightly differently this time... :)
Post by: dragonsdemesne on May 05, 2012, 06:12:00 pm
Oracle Card: DRUID STAFF
wins: 8 losses: 5 rank: 490 Rating: -101 age: 2
(http://img27.imageshack.us/img27/5094/staffqgw.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/27/staffqgw.jpg/)
There really isn't much to say about this one. Adrenastaves with twin universe, a one trick pony. I got toadfish today. I could do a SoP deck, but I'll try and think of something more unique than that. Maybe a duo with life and go with a poison theme?
Post by: dragonsdemesne on May 06, 2012, 08:54:53 pm
Oracle Card: DRUID STAFF
wins: 7 losses: 5 rank: >500 Rating: -130 age: 1
(http://img9.imageshack.us/img9/1526/toadfishf.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/9/toadfishf.jpg/)
Another suck deck :) Lucky for me I have no ego and don't care how these decks perform, or else it would be hurting like hell over the last few I've submitted :p I got fractal today. I have a fairly evil idea to make with that... :) It'll probably suck too, but it'll be really annoying :p
Post by: dragonsdemesne on May 07, 2012, 11:49:56 pm
Oracle Card: FRACTAL
wins: 7 losses: 5 rank: >500 Rating: -136 age: 1
(http://img528.imageshack.us/img528/8195/fractal.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/528/fractal.jpg/)
I thought this deck would be a royal pain in the ass. If I'd farmed more SoF to put into it, it might've been. After taking the screenshot, I did a double-take at seeing 5 overdrives and only 3 SoF, but I guess the fractal copies need some overdriving love, too! And with all those black holes alone, I'm surprised the deck didn't do better, given how well some of my previous decks did that used black hole and random whatever, like this fire deck http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,28528.msg463444.html#msg463444 and this air deck http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,28528.msg460607.html#msg460607 did. Oh, well, back to the drawing board :) Today's card is otyugh.
Post by: dragonsdemesne on May 11, 2012, 12:27:33 am
(http://img846.imageshack.us/img846/8199/wtfumd.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/846/wtfumd.jpg/)
That's me kicking the crap out of my own arena deck when I came across it in plat, and I'm using a SoSebow with no damage sources, unless I get them from SoSe :p The number of AI fails in that deck was astounding, and I saw them all with my 6 precogs. It kept overdriving the wrong things, playing other things instead of black holes at the wrong time, pulverizing the wrong stuff, etc. The deck is 25-5, including the loss I just gave myself, yet the fractal SoF that is better went 7-5.
edit: Hehe just got home from work and the very first deck I face is my own again! This time it beat my sosebow. I still can't believe it's doing this well, after seeing even more AI fails. On turn 2, for example, the AI played Heavy Armour on Shard of Focus :p At least I still got 24 gold for thumbs upping myself!
Post by: Elite arbiter on May 12, 2012, 08:12:26 pm
But the main problem I see is hand clogging. Black Holes rarely need to be played all the time, Overdrives need one of those 4 playable cards, and same goes for Fractals. And thats assuming the AI plays overdrive and Fractal perfectly. (And even if not, hand clogging I mentioned earlier will actually neuter fractals). I'd have to see, but if you're running Fractal Shard of Focus as your main strategy, you need some kind of rainbow. Otherwise it's way too costly to actually play them.
Fun deck ideas, but just mentioning that that last deck might not have been as practical as you're saying it was.
Post by: dragonsdemesne on May 12, 2012, 08:17:23 pm
Post by: dragonsdemesne on May 13, 2012, 04:33:17 pm
Oracle Card: OTYUGH
wins: 48 losses: 15 rank: >500 Rating: -116 age: 6
Interesting; I've never had a deck drop out of platinum in 6 days before, I don't think. Every other time that I can recall, it was either in 1 day or less (when it sucked) or after 8 days (when it had 1hp).
(http://img685.imageshack.us/img685/3926/otyugh.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/685/otyugh.jpg/)
So, despite all the misplays I saw this deck make (bad overdrive timing, fail pulvy targeting, heavy armour on SoF, etc) it still managed to last six days.
Today's card is reflective shield, and I have no desire to make a deck based on that, so it's farm time today. I'm also level 74 now, so all decks from this point on have an extra point to work with.
edit: Plat must be really filling up with people... it only took 3 losses for my farm to get knocked out; it used to take 6 or 7. Anyway, today's card is holy flash. I built a simple pseudo-farm based on flying morning glories and SoW/SoFr.
Post by: dragonsdemesne on May 15, 2012, 04:43:47 am
Oracle Card: HOLY LIGHT
wins: 9 losses: 5 rank: >500 Rating: -128 age: 0
(http://img845.imageshack.us/img845/8133/83924422.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/845/83924422.jpg/)
That's an awful lot of plays for such a young deck... sadly the deck sucks. At least 5 people got a shot at farming my shards. New deck tomorrow; since it's age 0 I don't have a new card to put up, yet. That's the first deck I've had drop out of plat after 0 days, I think, other than a farm :p I guess that makes it my worst arena deck ever.
edit: because I put the wrong deck image up
Post by: mservando on May 16, 2012, 01:36:26 pm
This is the second arena deck I submitted. (the first was in gold)
200hp, 60 wisdom, 2x card draw, 1x mark
Oracle Card: BONE DRAGON
Mark of DEATH
(all cards in this deck are upgraded, and the bone dragons were ivory dragons from the oracle and my max wisdom, but I don't actually own any ivory dragons, so I used bone dragons to show you the deck image as close as possible)
wins: 97 loss: 16 rank: 58 rating: 373 age: 5
Just thought I'd let people see what I'm using, since I'm about to change it up. I'm getting a bit nervous with that age, since it's already at -32hp and tomorrow it's going to be -64. I'll post the next deck after I quit using it as well. It's in my best interests not to reveal the deck while it's actually up in the arena, but there is no harm in revealing it after I'm done using it. My oracle card now is Aether Pendulum, which is another reason I want to switch it now; that's a decent card, and I'm worried that if I get a crappy card tomorrow I'll either have to build a junk deck or play with -64hp.
The idea of the deck was to Cremate the gemfinders/balls and drop lava destroyers, obviously, but with the added twist that when you cremate stuff, the soul catchers give death quanta for the ivory dragons that I had to use. I really don't like the death element and I couldn't think of any good deck based on death as the main element, so I decided to splash death in this way, and it did a lot better than I thought it would.
how will you play the lightning?
Post by: Elite arbiter on May 16, 2012, 01:45:04 pm
Post by: TheAccuso on May 16, 2012, 08:24:56 pm
creamtion generates 8 :fire quanta + 1 quantum for every other elements, he can actually play 6 lightings.
how will you play the lightning?
Post by: Laxadarap on May 16, 2012, 09:05:22 pm
creamtion generates 8 :fire quanta + 1 quantum for every other elements, he can actually play 6 lightings.
how will you play the lightning?
Pfft, you guys are getting it all wrong. Ball lightning costs 0 quanta, so he could play an infinite amount, or atleast 48 of them. On the other hand, this is double draw, so he could technically play 12 thunderbolts :P
Post by: dragonsdemesne on May 16, 2012, 11:28:20 pm
Oracle Card: GRAVITY PENDULUM
wins: 7 losses: 5 rank: 766 Rating: -146 age: 1
[deck](http://img405.imageshack.us/img405/1407/gravpend.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/405/gravpend.jpg/)
The deck won its first 4 games, then took a bellyflop. I'm pretty sure it suffered from the 'AI plays like a moron' handicap. The TUs for example; the AI tends to not want to play them until the late game. Timing silences correctly also takes a skill the AI lacks; it just plays them as soon as it can. It wasn't a great deck by any means, but a human would have done far better with it.
Today's card is basilisk blood. I really wish the AI could play a deck like voodoo universe or catapult-BB-whatever properly for that card, but I'll probably end up going with something far more basic, though I haven't decided what yet.
Usually I just put >500 for decks that fall out of platinum. I put the 766 because it was so much lower than normal, and I've never seen it go past the low 600s before :p
Post by: TheAccuso on May 17, 2012, 06:37:52 am
of course i wrote lightings instead of thunderbolt, definitely not talkin' 'bout ball lighting, if you can see what i had quote....creamtion generates 8 :fire quanta + 1 quantum for every other elements, he can actually play 6 lightings.
how will you play the lightning?
Pfft, you guys are getting it all wrong. Ball lightning costs 0 quanta, so he could play an infinite amount, or atleast 48 of them. On the other hand, this is double draw, so he could technically play 12 thunderbolts :P
Post by: Laxadarap on May 17, 2012, 07:02:34 pm
of course i wrote lightings instead of thunderbolt, definitely not talkin' 'bout ball lighting, if you can see what i had quote....creamtion generates 8 :fire quanta + 1 quantum for every other elements, he can actually play 6 lightings.
how will you play the lightning?
Pfft, you guys are getting it all wrong. Ball lightning costs 0 quanta, so he could play an infinite amount, or atleast 48 of them. On the other hand, this is double draw, so he could technically play 12 thunderbolts :P
Why you no get the funny?
Post by: TheAccuso on May 17, 2012, 07:17:03 pm
'cause technicalities aren't that funny...[/spoiler]of course i wrote lightings instead of thunderbolt, definitely not talkin' 'bout ball lighting, if you can see what i had quote....[/spoiler] of them. On the other hand, this is double draw, so he could technically play 12 thunderbolts :P[/spoiler]how will you play the lightning?Pfft, you guys are getting it all wrong. Ball lightning costs 0 quanta, so he could play an infinite amount, or atleast 48creamtion generates 8 :fire quanta + 1 quantum for every other elements, he can actually play 6 lightings.
Why you no get the funny?
A skeleton walks into a bar and says, "Gimme a beer, and a mop."
also i messed up the thing with spoilers to not make the reply too long and i fail doing it so bad...THAT'S FUNNY :D
Post by: dragonsdemesne on May 22, 2012, 11:44:53 pm
Oracle Card: BASILISK BLOOD
wins: 38 losses: 12 rank: >500 Rating: -125 age: 6
(http://img207.imageshack.us/img207/3270/98081591.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/207/98081591.jpg/)
Classic earth/light stall. Not sure if the quanta balance is right, but I did it the way I did so that I didn't have to use unupped quanta sources.
Got arctic squid today. According to my history in this thread, I have twice done mitosis/squid/SoP, and it did poorly both times, though this was before the SoP buff (it used to last only 1 turn) so that would most likely be a much stronger deck, now. Still, I am going to do something different with it. I'm just not sure what yet.
Post by: dragonsdemesne on May 23, 2012, 12:36:19 pm
Oracle Card: ARCTIC SQUID
wins: 1 losses: 1 rank: 324 Rating: -34 age: 1
(http://img208.imageshack.us/img208/5452/squidfh.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/208/squidfh.jpg/)
I'd have left this up longer, as it was a rather interesting deck, but I spun Auburn Nymph today, so I want to use that while I can :)
Post by: dragonsdemesne on May 24, 2012, 01:28:05 pm
Oracle Card: AUBURN NYMPH
wins: 3 losses: 4 rank: >500 Rating: -139 age: 1
(http://img837.imageshack.us/img837/6199/auburn.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/837/auburn.jpg/)
It sucked, but I had to do it, given I won't get to play with that many earth nymphs again for a long time. Monoearth rush, nymph style!
Today is cockatrice. I'll try to do something interesting with that.
Post by: dragonsdemesne on May 28, 2012, 01:52:32 am
Oracle Card: COCKATRICE
wins: 27 losses: 9 rank: >500 Rating: -122 age: 3
(http://img137.imageshack.us/img137/8701/cockatrice.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/137/cockatrice.jpg/)
I've never seen this done before, yet it got hardly any thumbs up. <sigh> :p
Aether pendulum today. Again, I'll try to come up with a unique deck, rather than the same old same old. As you can see from the crappy performance of most of my recent arena decks, I don't really care if they do well anymore; I'm just having fun with it :p
edit: I just made fractal antlions :p Let's see if it can win any games at all, hehe.
Post by: Laxadarap on May 28, 2012, 06:51:39 pm
200hp, 60 wisdom, 2x card draw, 2x mark
Oracle Card: COCKATRICE
wins: 27 losses: 9 rank: >500 Rating: -122 age: 3
(http://img137.imageshack.us/img137/8701/cockatrice.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/137/cockatrice.jpg/)
I've never seen this done before, yet it got hardly any thumbs up. <sigh> :p
Aether pendulum today. Again, I'll try to come up with a unique deck, rather than the same old same old. As you can see from the crappy performance of most of my recent arena decks, I don't really care if they do well anymore; I'm just having fun with it :p
edit: I just made fractal antlions :p Let's see if it can win any games at all, hehe.
Doesn't Chaos Power clash rather poorly with adrenaline? Also probably got thumbed down because of the discord :P
Post by: dragonsdemesne on May 28, 2012, 07:07:18 pm
Post by: dragonsdemesne on May 29, 2012, 04:23:59 am
Oracle Card: AETHER PENDULUM
wins: 1 losses: 4 rank: >500 Rating: -142 age: 1
(http://img835.imageshack.us/img835/197/antlion.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/835/antlion.jpg/)
IT. WON. A. GAME. HOLY SH... It got a thumbs-up for it, too :p Small wonder; have YOU ever seen fractal antlions before?
Spun Heal today. Some sort of USEM deck seems like the best possibility for that card, so of course I'll do something less conventional, more interesting, and probably much weaker :)
Post by: TheAccuso on May 29, 2012, 12:16:13 pm
Post by: Laxadarap on May 30, 2012, 07:45:48 pm
200hp, 60 wisdom, 2x card draw, 2x mark
Oracle Card: AETHER PENDULUM
wins: 1 losses: 4 rank: >500 Rating: -142 age: 1
(http://img835.imageshack.us/img835/197/antlion.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/835/antlion.jpg/)
IT. WON. A. GAME. HOLY SH... It got a thumbs-up for it, too :p Small wonder; have YOU ever seen fractal antlions before?
Spun Heal today. Some sort of USEM deck seems like the best possibility for that card, so of course I'll do something less conventional, more interesting, and probably much weaker :)
Earths war decks :P
Post by: dragonsdemesne on June 02, 2012, 07:08:40 am
Oracle Card: HEAL
wins: 29 losses: 10 rank: 402 Rating: -75 age: 5
(http://img191.imageshack.us/img191/3007/healr.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/191/healr.jpg/)
Trying to add a touch of originality to firefly queens. Blitz/SoFr for finisher type things, green nymph just because, blue nymph just because, and ruby dragon just because. Fireflies will produce fire quanta for the dragon and UGs off the nymph. Hopefully some of that caught people off-guard. Unfortunately, it didn't get a lot of thumbs-up, as I guess it wasn't quite original enough.
Spun Pharaoh today. The heal deck has been in the 400s every time I've checked on it; several times it was one game away from elimination that I saw, and it could go at any time. It's really only luck that kept it in this long, I think. I'll try to think of something unique with pharaoh, but that might be hard. Ideas like SoR and/or grav mark with SoF/devour are pretty commonplace. I also already did a feral bond based deck with pharaohs.
Post by: dragonsdemesne on June 04, 2012, 11:11:54 pm
Oracle Card: PHARAOH
wins: 18 losses: 8 rank: >500 Rating: -117 age: 2
(http://img600.imageshack.us/img600/7430/pharaohg.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/600/pharaohg.jpg/)
This one's fraught with loads of opportunities for the AI to misplay, from fractaling the wrong creatures, to timing dims wrong, to using pharaoh/hourglass/eternity in the wrong order, and so on. Hopefully it provided some entertainment. I got Fate Egg today, so that should be a really easy one to do something unique with, and I've already got a pretty good idea what I'll do with it.
Also, from this point on, I own every upped card other than nymphs/marks, and all except a few of the unupped shards, so unless my decks use a lot of pillars/pends, they'll be fully upped from now on, unless I deliberately choose not to for some reason (for more points elsewhere, for nymphs, novas, toadfish, etc)
Post by: dragonsdemesne on June 06, 2012, 03:47:56 am
Oracle Card: FATE EGG
wins: 4 losses: 4 rank: >500 Rating: -127 age: 1
(http://img827.imageshack.us/img827/3705/fateegg.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/827/fateegg.jpg/)
3/4 thumbs up, so at least that part of my plan succeeded. Of course, the deck sucks, and is heavily luck-dependent besides. With a good draw it can potentially be really nasty; imagine turn 2 SoR egg into a pair of dragons and twinning it next turn... but then, you might get photon :p
Spun Nova today. I know exactly what deck I'm going to post, and it won't be popular, and it's not exactly inventive, either. (hint: he shoots lasers out of his chest...)
Post by: dragonsdemesne on June 07, 2012, 11:30:25 pm
Oracle Card: NOVA
wins: 15 losses: 7 rank: >500 Rating: -121 age: 2
(http://img825.imageshack.us/img825/6570/novaj.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/825/novaj.jpg/)
This deck doesn't have a lot of counters (assuming the AI plays right, which is a *huge* assumption!) but there are a few, notably things like shard of sacrifice, bone wall, sundial, reflective shields, and, if the AI doesn't wait for SoW (which we all know it won't), then rewind and a few other CC spells capable of dealing with 20/20 monstrosities. With several modifications, I've used a deck something like this in league, though with unupped novas and no shards of focus, though I might change that last part. It does quite well there, and I've won with it and lost to it several times. In arena, not so much, although it's definitely not the optimal build here, partly due to having to use supernovas, and also because I was just silly with this build :p I did think it would do a little better than it did, though, but I'm sure the AI snafued with it a lot. The good news is, if you beat this deck, you probably got some really kickass spins :) (another reason I built it the way I did)
Spun Hammer today. What I'll do with that, I haven't decided. Flying gavels has been done to death, and another good possibility is cremation rush with earth mark for golems/gavels, but that's been done a lot as well. I can't think of anything else off the top of my head that can make use of ten gavels, but I'll figure some silly deck out.
Post by: dragonsdemesne on June 10, 2012, 04:13:58 pm
Oracle Card: HAMMER
wins: 20 losses: 8 rank: >500 Rating: -114 age: 3
(http://img713.imageshack.us/img713/7074/ehammer.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/713/ehammer.jpg/)
So I was sitting there trying to figure out what to do with hammer, when I realized that I've never seen a monoearth hammer deck before; it's always monogravity or cremation rush or monoother. So here we go... :)
Today's card is black hole. I've used that card a lot, though it's never been my oracle card before. (according to the search function) I've done fire/mark BH rush, air/mark BH rush, earth/grav denial, discord/BH (twice), fractal SoF, oraclebow denial (twice) and grav/dark denial. So now my mission is to find something new to do with it... hmm...
edit: Tested my SoSebow against my arena deck, and I think I have just won asshole of the year...
(http://img821.imageshack.us/img821/4793/lolro.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/821/lolro.jpg/)
Post by: dragonsdemesne on June 12, 2012, 11:24:28 pm
Oracle Card: BLACK HOLE
wins: 11 losses: 6 rank: >500 Rating: -142 age: 2
(http://img839.imageshack.us/img839/1315/blackholeo.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/839/blackholeo.jpg/)
This was an idea I've never seen done before in the arena, but it got very few thumbs up (I think 1 or 2?) due to the extreme annoyance factor; being tickled to death by gravity nymphs sucks like a vacuum. Assuming a half decent draw, it will win almost every time if it can lock you down, but if even one creature gets through, it will probably lose. It probably destroyed decks like SPlat, as they can't function without gravity quanta, and with a bit of luck shutting down entropy quanta could probably stomp speedbows most of the time. It likely lost to decks like immorush and rol/hope or anything with 0-cost creatures. It might've done fairly well against poison dial type decks, since this deck puts out damage very slowly and the SoSas likely won't ever be worth playing, plus the holes shut down dial draw use pretty effectively. Given this deck's absolute dependence on locking you down fast and hard, if the player played first, this deck was at a serious disadvantage, so coinflips probably determined a huge number of the wins/losses. It was at 5-0 the first day, so I was optimistic it might become a success, but it was not to be.
On reflection, some gravity pulls for the SoFs might've been a good choice, but the AI tends to use those as CC unless it's taking a lot of damage/is very low on hp; were a human playing this deck, they'd have helped. I don't know if they'd have done much for the AI.
Today's card is stone pillar, which gives me quite a bit of freedom in deckbuilding. My first thought was water mark and tridents :p I don't think I'll do that, though, but it'll be something comparably unusual.
Post by: dragonsdemesne on June 17, 2012, 07:29:57 am
Oracle Card: STONE PILLAR
wins: 25 losses: 10 rank: >500 Rating: -127 age: 5
(http://img198.imageshack.us/img198/7555/stonepillar.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/198/stonepillar.jpg/)
So I did end up using some tridents :p My first thought was warden/SoP, then I figured why not make it a 60 card stall... so I added squids and purify, and by that point poseidon was a natural fit. This deck got a lot more thumbs up than anything I've done recently, which means it was a success, as that's what I'm going for :)
Today's card is sanctuary. I skipped a red nymph deck in there (yay nymphs from oracle!) since with 4 of them now, I can make a red nymph deck whenever I want. (I did that once with voodoo dolls) If I'd spun a nymph I didn't have many of, I'd have built a deck around it no matter what. My first instinct was to go with a SoG/sanc stall. Maybe I can do something like leaf dragon/mitosis/jade dragon + healing? That'll mean another fat deck, but whatever :)
Post by: Holokausti on June 17, 2012, 03:59:47 pm
(http://i.imgur.com/SE7TK.png)
Was a very close match in the end, I only won because there were no Miracles in your deck. :D
(http://i.imgur.com/Y9V5R.png)
Post by: dragonsdemesne on June 17, 2012, 04:07:10 pm
Oracle Card: SANCTUARY
wins: 1 losses: 4 rank: >500 Rating: -144 age: 0
(http://img845.imageshack.us/img845/7701/esanctuary.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/845/esanctuary.jpg/)
Well, that was a failure :) I'd forgotten that leaf dragon is top creature priority for AI targeting, as Holokausti has reminded me :p I think that's my first deck to lose at age 0, because I don't remember being in this case where I can't post today's oracle card, as today's card is still sanctuary! It did get 100% thumbs ups, though!
Post by: dragonsdemesne on June 21, 2012, 02:17:55 am
Oracle Card: FIREFLY
wins: 11 losses: 8 rank: 814 Rating: -149 age: 2
(http://img21.imageshack.us/img21/1538/efirefly.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/21/efirefly.jpg/)
I didn't think this deck was any more or less creative than most of the rest I've done recently, but the community clearly disagreed; it got 8/11 thumbs ups! (which is how it survived so long even with a crap W/L ratio :p) Also, wow at >814 active people in plat... it's gained a lot of people in the last couple months. The basic idea was draw-spam and play all kinds of cheap dudes and buff them with blitz/shards, hoping to overwhelm the opponent. Of course, anything sosa-based crushed this deck, but it probably put up a decent fight against most others, win or lose.
I got Silence today. According to this thread, I got that once before and did a rather interesting SoV-based duo with dark/aether, and it actually did very well. I have a new idea for this one; it's something I'd thought up for CL, but haven't gotten around to building.
Post by: dragonsdemesne on June 21, 2012, 12:46:52 pm
Oracle Card: SILENCE
wins: 2 losses: 0 rank: 206 Rating: 18 age: 0
(http://img29.imageshack.us/img29/8309/esilence.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/29/esilence.jpg/)
Poison dial with silence; not much to say about it. Ordinarily I'd have left it up until the deck either proved itself or dropped out of platinum, but I spun golden nymph (hell yes!) so I'm making a deck based on that, since it's an opportunity I likely won't get for a long time. No thumbs up on this deck :p
Post by: dragonsdemesne on June 22, 2012, 11:07:06 pm
Oracle Card: GOLDEN NYMPH
wins: 6 losses: 5 rank: >500 Rating: -119 age: 1
(http://img607.imageshack.us/img607/8844/egoldennymph.JPG) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/607/egoldennymph.JPG/)
They look so pretty... the deck bombed, though :p 3 thumbs up out of 6 wins, which is actually more than I expected to get, given that most people who get golden nymph do something sort of like this, though maybe with rewinds instead of SoG/Mitosis. At least I get to make use of the graboid I spun today! :) However, making a unique deck with graboid is... difficult. Using the search function, I haven't actually used that as an oracle card before, but I've made a few decks with graboid, either speedbows or earth rush with a bit of time support. Obviously neither of those is going to count as a unique deck, so I'll probably have to do some thinking. I might be able to at least flip things around and make it a mostly time deck with earth mark, rather than the other way around. Beyond that I haven't got any immediately obvious ideas; maybe I can go to a trio and find something that works?
Post by: dragonsdemesne on June 27, 2012, 11:20:47 pm
Oracle Card: GRABOID
wins: 26 losses: 10 rank: >500 Rating: -134 age: 5
(http://img88.imageshack.us/img88/1227/graboid.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/88/graboid.jpg/)
This should have gotten a vertiable crapton of thumbs-ups, but it got I think 8/26. I mean, have you ever seen anything so ridiculous, especially using graboid? I'm surprised it managed as many wins as it did, given that most of the good combos in this deck the AI probably doesn't play right :p It's got GPull with SoF or Voodoo, along with Auburn nymphs for BBs, but I doubt the AI ever did any of that. Ah well, it had a good run; I can't be faulted if one of the more unique decks I've put out there in awhile couldn't impress you people :p
Today's card is trident. I just made a deck recently with tridents (on the 17th) but I have another idea for something interesting using it.
Post by: Calindu on June 28, 2012, 07:55:10 am
Post by: dragonsdemesne on June 29, 2012, 04:08:30 am
Oracle Card: TRIDENT
wins: 6 losses: 5 rank: >500 Rating: -137 age: 1
(http://img685.imageshack.us/img685/633/etrident.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/685/etrident.jpg/)
Queens and queens and more queens. SoF and purify for hopefully defeating the worst counters to this deck, things like SoSa, dimshields, etc. And... oh, that's it :p 2/6 thumbs up on this one. Maybe it would've gotten more without the SoFs... but maybe not, since it probably needed them to actually win :p
Pandemonium is the card of the day. I think I'm going to make a duo with death. Bone walls, condors, etc, and profit from death like an arms dealer.
Post by: dragonsdemesne on July 06, 2012, 12:45:26 pm
Oracle Card: PANDEMONIUM
wins: 35 losses: 15 rank: >500 Rating: -148 age: 8
(http://img580.imageshack.us/img580/9513/epandemonium.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/580/epandemonium.jpg/)
Pretty simple idea, and it succeeded at making it the full 8 days. Hide behind the bone walls while pandemonium wipes everything out and grows the walls. Poison makes the kills. I had 3 spots at the end, so I threw in three holy flashes just for fun, and I am really hoping they killed some SoSa players :) 588 electrum and 35 wins means the deck got 14 thumbs up. It didn't get a lot of plays, particularly in the last two days; I think it got maybe 3 on days 6-7.
Today's card was also pandemonium, so I can't build a new deck today due to the bug/feature (not sure which) disallowing a new deck when you spin the same card.
Post by: dragonsdemesne on July 14, 2012, 10:54:33 pm
Oracle Card: PURPLE DRAGON
wins: 51 losses: 19 rank: >500 Rating: -139 age: 7
(http://img402.imageshack.us/img402/6304/epurpledragon.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/402/epurpledragon.jpg/)
Not bad for a mono, I suppose. I tossed in all my purple nymphs at the time (won 1 in the last week I didn't include) and chaos powers, then I had 3 more slots so I put in one each of SoP/SoFr/Discord just to mix things up a bit.
Today's card is horned frog. I can remember doing a speedbow with frog, as well as a death/life creature rush, so I'll look for something else to try that's unique.
edit: forgot to include # of thumbs ups, it was 15/51, likely reflecting the boringness of a mono.
Post by: dragonsdemesne on July 16, 2012, 12:46:47 pm
Oracle Card: HORNED FROG
wins: 7 losses: 5 rank: >500 Rating: -146 age: 2
(http://img685.imageshack.us/img685/2169/efrog.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/685/efrog.jpg/)
3/7 thumbs-up. I couldn't really think of anything too unique for the frog, so I just threw together an immorush with a couple splashed cards in about 5 seconds without any real thought towards quanta balance or anything like that.
Today's card is parallel universe, which is one I don't think I've ever had before, so anything I do will be new. The problem is that the AI is so unbelievably bad with it (it won't play it until it's taken a bunch of damage) so I'm not sure if I'll be able to build anything that can actually win :p
Post by: dragonsdemesne on July 16, 2012, 11:31:10 pm
Oracle Card: PARALLEL UNIVERSE
wins: 0 losses: 4 rank: >500 Rating: -160 age: 0
(http://img69.imageshack.us/img69/9869/eparallel.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/69/eparallel.jpg/)
This had to have been an absolute blast to play against. Unfortunately, it can't get any thumbs up if it can't win any games, lol. I'd like to think people would have thumbed this deck up had they had the opportunity. As I mentioned yesterday, the problem with twin universe is that the AI won't actually play it right away; it'll wait until it's taken a whole bunch of damage, or sometimes if it can kill you immediately, but even when it does play it, it often targets the wrong things. I was hoping it'd sneak a few wins in from simply getting really lucky mutations, like the one game I tested against it. It got two dragons right away and something else with lycanthropy that was just as big as a dragon, and it was all over very quickly.
Post by: dragonsdemesne on July 21, 2012, 07:52:40 am
Oracle Card: BUTTERFLY EFFECT
wins: 28 losses: 11 rank: 419 Rating: -68 age: 4
(http://img526.imageshack.us/img526/7971/ebed.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/526/ebed.jpg/)
13/28 thumbs up, which isn't bad, nearly 50%. I started by thinking... how the heck can I use butterfly effect? Damselfly seemed one of the best targets in the game. After that, air cards seemed obvious, so wyrm went in. Chaos powers for wyrms, shards of freedom... and I accidentally recreated Chaos Wyrms with 5 BE, as someone (bogtro I think?) pointed out to me in chat. I should count it a miracle I got any thumbs ups at all :p
Lately I've been grinding my arena decks into the ground, only replacing them after they are eliminated, but I got Nymph's Tears today, and that's got so many possibilities that I figured I'd put it to use somehow. I was thinking I might recreate the light/water stall I built several months ago, since light nymphs hit pretty hard now with their buff, but I'd like to try and use something else. If I can find a way to make, say, death nymphs useful, that would be really funny :p
Post by: dragonsdemesne on July 23, 2012, 09:47:14 am
Oracle Card: NYMPH'S TEARS
wins: 11 losses: 2 rank: 189 Rating: 10 age: 2
(http://img69.imageshack.us/img69/3401/enymphstears.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/69/enymphstears.jpg/)
I am in stunned disbelief that this deck only got 2/11 thumbs ups. Death Nymph's tears? Come on, I've NEVER seen that done before! I guess people thought the rest of the deck was too close to SoSa poison, but even with no SoSas, people didn't like it. It did reasonably well at 11-2, and ordinarily I'd have left it up longer. However, due to waking up in the middle of the night, I decided to spin the oracle for the heck of it and spun a BLACK NYMPH! This is awesome, because it was one of the two nymphs I didn't own yet. (only Light nymph remains!) It also means that the next arena deck is automatically one that I promised to do if I ever spun a black nymph.
I have six purple nymphs. I spun black nymph, and have (temporarily) six black nymphs in my arena deck. Liquid. Antimatter. Without. Spells.
edit: Oh yeah, and I gained level 75 in the last couple days, so 1 more arena point in the future.
Post by: dragonsdemesne on July 24, 2012, 12:46:16 pm
Oracle Card: BLACK NYMPH
wins: 6 losses: 5 rank: >500 Rating: -129 age: 1
(http://img198.imageshack.us/img198/7084/eblacknymph.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/198/eblacknymph.jpg/)
I didn't expect this one to do too well, given the prevalence of things like poison decks, and the fact that it's quite slow, and I'm actually surprised it did as well as it did. However, I simply could -not- resist making this deck when the opportunity arose. The community also seemed to think that this deck was quite unique, and 5/6 of the wins were thumbs ups :) I suspect that I got the quanta balance way off, but I didn't really care :p
Today's card is gargoyle. I don't think I've ever had that one before, or even really used it in any of my arena decks much. It's a good card, though, and hopefully I can find something interesting to do with it.
Post by: dragonsdemesne on July 25, 2012, 11:36:25 pm
Oracle Card: GARGOYLE
wins: 8 losses: 5 rank: >500 Rating: -116 age: 1
(http://img17.imageshack.us/img17/8356/egargoyle.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/17/egargoyle.jpg/)
3/8 thumbs ups. I've never seen this deck done before, and I knew it wouldn't be very successful, but anything that's a new idea is always good. Great heaping piles of denial (probably too much) and gargoyles/eclipse/dagger for the kill. Most likely what happened is that the hand got clogged due to a lack of permanents to target. I'd thought about trying to do a trio with earth so I could use the gargoyle/pest abilities and pulverizers and earthquakes and stuff like that, but I couldn't figure out a way to do it without making the deck really huge and reliant on good quanta draws, and it would have done much worse for certain.
Today's card is hourglass. A lot of people whine about large deck oraclebows, so I'll probably skip doing that, even though those are some of the ones I thumbs up the most, because it's often something I haven't seen done. I think I'm going to try and create a fat fire/time stall and see how that goes.
Post by: dragonsdemesne on July 29, 2012, 02:19:44 am
Oracle Card: GOLDEN HOURGLASS
wins: 26 losses: 9 rank: >500 Rating: -122 age: 3
(http://img100.imageshack.us/img100/6308/ehourglass.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/100/ehourglass.jpg/)
8/26 thumbs up for this deck. Lots of healing and stall cards, a bunch of nymphs to help along with that, and hourglasses to draw quickly and get the stuff you need. It's unfortunate that Platinum league is so competitive now that a 75% win rate gets you kicked out, as it means it is hard to make a deck that is both competitive and creative, but that's simply the way it is. I thought this was a rather interesting deck, but I guess the community didn't agree.
Today's card is firebolt. That'll be a tough one to make a deck that people like, because for whatever reason, people here really hate direct damage, and fire in particular. I was thinking of just slapping together 6 fire bolt 6 fahrenheit 6 animate weapon and 17 towers, but that'll probably get zero thumbs up :p I'll try to figure out something clever to do with it, but I might just throw together some boring monofire if I can't come up with something.
edit: RNG can die... firebolt deck wants more plays :p It's gotten 5/12 thumbs ups so far; with firebolt, that's already not bad, but it's got twelve shards of focus and it's STILL getting more thumbs ups than some of my other decks :) I tested against my own arena deck, and I think a big part of that is a completely accidental synergy between two of the cards in my deck, lol. (but you have to wait until I take the deck down to learn what that was!)
(http://img88.imageshack.us/img88/1452/dierng.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/88/dierng.jpg/)
Post by: dragonsdemesne on August 02, 2012, 11:17:14 pm
Oracle Card: FIRE BOLT
wins: 35 losses: 11 rank: >500 Rating: -143 age: 5
(http://img191.imageshack.us/img191/2981/efirebolt.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/191/efirebolt.jpg/)
The basic idea here should be fairly obvious. Red nymphs to make the steam machines and shards of focus more deadly than usual. Flying fahrenheits and fire lances work well with the extra towers/pends beyond what I usually put in a deck. Two ice lances since I was going with the bolt theme and I thought I might have a lot of extra water quanta. Purifies for healing/antipoison-sosa.
I played a test game a day or two ago, and I found a completely unintended synergy in there. See if you can spot it...
Purify + red nymph. The AI would use the rage ability on the creatures, and then purify them, so that it could keep raging, sort of like how the red nymph/archangel combo works. That was completely unintentional on my part. It's not a particularly practical strategy, but it was interesting to see the AI try something that even I didn't think of.
The deck only earned 7 thumbs ups, which doesn't surprise me. People hate direct damage on the forums (quite illogically) and shard of focus (quite logically) and this deck had both.
Today's card is amethyst pillar. That'll allow for a fairly broad range of decks. Nothing really obviously creative is coming to me, though. As usual, I'll try to come up with something unique...
edit: Looks like I did it twice, and did it again with purify instead of SoP, so I'll be trying to find something else. Maybe I'll go old school and use shard of readiness and steam machine, and not even use fire quanta... :p
Post by: Elite arbiter on August 03, 2012, 03:28:52 am
People hate direct damage on the forums (quite illogically)
Hm, just a thought, but do you think that a significant portion of people hate direct damage because it hard counters their SoSa farm strat and thusly get frustrated at it like rainbow users do against BH?
Post by: dragonsdemesne on August 03, 2012, 04:28:26 am
Hm, just a thought, but do you think that a significant portion of people hate direct damage because it hard counters their SoSa farm strat and thusly get frustrated at it like rainbow users do against BH?
No, because people hated it before shard of sacrifice even existed in the game. The unpredictability of it is probably a big factor, I think, though, and that same unpredictability does mean that it's hard to know how to use shard of sacrifice against it. That same unpredictability means that lesser skilled players have a harder time beating such a deck, and is probably a factor in why people hate it.
Arena deck update: 1-2 so far, without a thumbs up. That person must have been very stingy, because I have never once seen the deck I have posted up now in the arena before :p
Post by: dragonsdemesne on August 03, 2012, 12:44:07 pm
Oracle Card: AMETHYST PILLAR
wins: 2 losses: 4 rank: >500 Rating: -142 age: 1
(http://img7.imageshack.us/img7/5057/eamethystpillar.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/7/eamethystpillar.jpg/)
The fact that this got 0/2 thumbs is sad; two of you are cheap bastards who obviously never thumbs up anything :p I've never seen this deck done in the arena before. Anyway, the point was obviously to get a protected dissipation shield early, and then wait :p Pandemonium and granite skin would hopefully keep it alive, and shard of bravery to try and get through the deck quickly. The deck suffers from several key flaws, however. (which I ignored in making something unique :p) The first is that due to the deck size, it might not actually draw the dissipation shield/protect artifact combo before losing the game, yet it needs to be a large deck size in order to actually deck people out. The second problem is that multiple copies of the shield/PA combo are dead cards in hand, clogging it up and wrecking double draw/shard of bravery, yet multiple copies are needed to ensure it was drawn early. (the high number of towers/pends, 30, partially offsets this, but not enough)
Today's card is nightfall. I refuse to make a deck with 10 copies of nightfall, so it's farm time today. Enjoy :)
Post by: dragonsdemesne on August 07, 2012, 01:03:16 pm
Oracle Card: DRAIN LIFE
wins: 12 losses: 6 rank: >500 Rating: -112 age: 3
(http://img32.imageshack.us/img32/6931/edrainlife.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/32/edrainlife.jpg/)
Every time I look at the arena window, the rank keeps shifting between about 509 and 474, so I figure I might as well just make a new deck. I couldn't think of anything really unique to do with siphon life, so I decided to make an oversized deck and threw in everything and the kitchen sink. It managed to garner 5 thumbs ups, although I really don't know why. Despite the pest/gargoyle use of earth quanta, I don't usually see this combination done, so I figured I'd try to make use of it, and pest/quicksand seemed the best way. Unfortunately, about the only interesting part of this deck is the black nymph making 7/23 gargoyles vampiric, and most people probably never saw the lone nymph.
Today's card is earth pendulum. I've already done an earth/light stoneskin/miracle stall, and I don't really like pendulum supernova decks (PSNs) so that removes two of themost obvious choices, besides monoearth. I could do a monoearth, but that wouldn't be particularly unique, either. I'd been thinking perhaps a nymph's tears duo; throw in a few congeals, purifies, tridents, and fun things like that. Or maybe some sort of firestall with stoneskins? There's still a few interesting possibilities like those that I haven't seen done... we'll see what I end up doing.
edit: Update on the earth pend deck. It's 30-4 so far, rank 27, with exactly 50% thumbs ups, so I think I've hit on a great idea as people think it is both creative, and it's actually winning games, too. You'll have to wait (or face it in the arena) to know what it contains, though :)
edit: It's 40-5 now and rank 12 with an amazingly high 26 thumbs ups so far! I mention that now because if it goes over rank 10, I won't be able to calculate thumbs ups anymore. The win/loss record is pretty strong, but it's clearly rising in rank due to thumbs ups, because if you compare it to the decks with similar ratings, mine has a worse W/L record but is still up there. This deck is definitely my most successful creative deck so far. I've been in the top 5 several times, including one deck at #1, but those were very uncreative decks like SoSa poison, immorush, and DBH.
edit: Posting this screenshot to show just how well the deck is doing in terms of thumbs ups:
(http://img824.imageshack.us/img824/3818/39466028.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/824/39466028.jpg/)
-the #7 deck has only 1 more rating point, but 11 more wins
-the #13 and #17 decks have strictly better win/loss ratios yet have less rating
-it's impossible to know for certain, but I suspect that I have the highest thumbs up ratio of any deck on this list, based on the fact that my win/loss is worse than most/all of the decks here, yet it's still #8
-I might have as many as 31 thumbs ups, though some of the electrum I have might be from being in top 10, though it's likely only a small amount, if any
edit: deck is at rank 5 now, so thumbs ratio cannot be calculated anymore
-the #7 deck has only 1 more rating point, but 11 more wins
-the #13 and #17 decks have strictly better win/loss ratios yet have less rating
-it's impossible to know for certain, but I suspect that I have the highest thumbs up ratio of any deck on this list, based on the fact that my win/loss is worse than most/all of the decks here, yet it's still #8
-I might have as many as 31 thumbs ups, though some of the electrum I have might be from being in top 10, though it's likely only a small amount, if any
Post by: dragonsdemesne on August 16, 2012, 12:31:25 am
Oracle Card: EARTH PENDULUM
wins: 57 losses: 20 rank: >500 Rating: -144 age: 8
(http://img109.imageshack.us/img109/4333/eearthpend.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/109/eearthpend.jpg/)
Well, this is it. This is officially the most successful of my creative decks. It earned a whopping 1212 electrum, and while I cannot be sure of the thumbs ups since it was in the top ten briefly (I saw it peak at rank 5) I can still calculate an upper bound for the number of thumbs, which is 44. I know it had at least 31 thumbs ups before hitting the top ten, and it wasn't top ten until about day 5 or so. I think it's fairly safe to say that it had at least a 2/3 thumbs up ratio, since it had roughly that level before hitting top ten. This deck even managed to win two games with 1hp while I was at work today. I have no idea how this is even possible with this particular deck, and the only way it could have been done is against either purely deckout decks, against extremely bad draws, or against decks that were hosed/slowed by an early diamond shield, all of which are quite unlikely. Maybe the quicksands screwed a few people long enough that it managed to win before they could play anything?
The basic premise of the deck is quite simple. I started with the warden/SoP combo, since I figured that's fairly rare to see in arena. Shriekers seemed a good choice for damage, since the AI usually burrows them. It won't ever unburrow them (to effectively double any built up SoP attack) but I figured even with that fact, they were a better choice of attacker than anything else in monoearth for this deck. Quicksands were to slow the opponent long enough to make all this happen, since SoP takes awhile to build up. Lastly, a single diamond shield and gavel rounded out 35 cards. I could've added my two nymphs to the deck, but I didn't trust the AI not to screw up with guard + petrify on the same target. (I've seen the FG jezebel screw up petrify + siphon life so I considered this quite likely) I also suspect that the deck is overquantaed, but I did that on purpose to make sure there was always plenty of quanta for the wardens, even if the AI misplays and puts something else down first that it shouldn't, instead of activating them first; with the extra quanta, it could hopefully do both.
I'm quite surprised that the deck won as much as it did. I've made very similar water decks with squid/SoP that didn't do nearly as well. When I got up this morning its win record was still something like 55-9, so it was still winning the majority of its games with 72hp. The SoP clearly hoses SoSa decks, and a few quick wardens/SoP would stop certain types of creature decks, and I suppose burrowed shriekers would be tough for some deck types, but I did not expect this deck to last more than 2 or 3 days at the most. I also didn't expect so many thumbs ups for it, either, especially when compared to some of my other more creative decks (in my opinion) that got half or less as many thumbs ups percentage wise as this one did.
Anyway, today's card is steam machine. Not too long ago I did a fire/water duo using steam machine/SoF and rage pots/nymphs when I got fire lance, and I don't want to do that again. The problem is, steam machine requires either fire quanta or shard of readiness to do anything. Given that I did a fire duo recently, I'll go with some sort of bizarre SoR deck that will probably fail within a day.
Post by: dragonsdemesne on August 17, 2012, 12:40:57 pm
Oracle Card: STEAM MACHINE
wins: 4 losses: 4 rank: >500 Rating: -106 age: 2
(http://img528.imageshack.us/img528/670/esteammachine.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/528/esteammachine.jpg/)
Yeah... turns out AI plays SoR on squid before machines :p The rest is history... I did get 3/4 thumbs ups for it, though, so in that sense it was actually slightly more successful than the last deck, but with a small sample size of only 4 wins, that doesn't mean too much.
Today's card is abomination. I've got a rather silly idea for this one... :p
Post by: dragonsdemesne on August 18, 2012, 03:25:39 pm
Oracle Card: ABOMINATION
wins: 6 losses: 4 rank: >500 Rating: -111 age: 1
(http://img809.imageshack.us/img809/292/eabom.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/809/eabom.jpg/)
The W/L on this one didn't surprise me at all; I didn't think it would really be any better than about 50/50. The low number of thumbs ups did surprise me; I can't recall ever seeing this done before. It only got 1/6 thumbs ups despite being a deck I've never seen in the arena.
The idea was dead simple. I didn't bother with pillars, and instead just used the mark to power the 1 cost entropy spells. Shard of Patience hopefully helped vs stalls, and is fairly effective with so many small creatures in the deck, and Shard of sacrifice hopefully kept it alive long enough to win.
Today's card is sundial. I've had this one before. I think I did monolight stall and poison dials before, so it's time for something different.
Post by: dragonsdemesne on August 19, 2012, 03:51:54 pm
Oracle Card: SUNDIAL
wins: 4 losses: 4 rank: >500 Rating: -125 age: 1
(http://img861.imageshack.us/img861/4765/esundial.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/861/esundial.jpg/)
It's basically RoL/Hope, but with life for mitosis/bond instead of fractal, to make it more creative. Shards of Patience help grow the little rays, and it actually synergizes with sundial a bit; since you're not attacking anyway with one of those cards, you might as well play the other. (though if the AI actually figured this out, I'll be stunned) The green nymph was there also mostly for fun, but light quanta generation on the rays is increased by adrenaline, and shard of patience will only skip the first attack of a creature with adrenaline, so the rest still go through. The shards of freedom were obviously to help get around shields, since any damage reduction shield owns this version otherwise; the SoPs were there to do the same thing. I had no illusions that this would do well, but I did think it would get more than 1/4 thumbs ups. I guess it was too close to more standard RoL/Hopes.
Today's card is fire spirit. I don't think I've ever used that one before. It'll also be a pretty tough one to come up with something unique for. Obviously, it'll have to tend towards either a monofire or else a deck that's heavily invested in fire, which limits things quite a bit. I'll figure out something, though... I usually do :p
Post by: dragonsdemesne on August 20, 2012, 11:21:16 pm
Oracle Card: FIRE SPIRIT
wins: 5 losses: 5 rank: >500 Rating: -144 age: 1
(http://img651.imageshack.us/img651/662/efirespirit.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/651/efirespirit.jpg/)
3/5 thumbs up for this one, which is a good ratio, albeit a small sample size. My first thought for something creative was to incorporate sky blitz somehow with the fire spectres, and most of the rest of the deck followed fairly quickly from that. The cremations were added at the last second (I'd had 4 of each of the shards before that) because I figured that might help actually play the shards and spectres that one crucial turn quicker, particularly after playing SoB. Most people were probably expecting monofire when they saw the fire spirit/mark of fire come up, and maybe they were just happy I did something that wasn't monofire with that card :p
Today's card is nightmare. Not sure what I'll do with that yet, but I guarantee it won't include ghost of the past :p That deck is quite annoying with double draw, plus I really don't like decks like GotP/nightmare that depend too much on the double draw feature; without double draw, that deck sucks in arena and is easy to beat, but with it, it's really annoying.
Post by: furballdn on August 20, 2012, 11:22:08 pm
Post by: dragonsdemesne on August 20, 2012, 11:32:16 pm
Post by: dragonsdemesne on August 21, 2012, 11:22:03 pm
Oracle Card: NIGHTMARE
wins: 2 losses: 4 rank: >500 Rating: -142 age: 1
(http://img214.imageshack.us/img214/591/enightmare.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/214/enightmare.jpg/)
Pretty much described the deck in the previous thread. My creatures were picked such that if they were nightmared they were usually useless to the opponent; werewolves need two types of quanta and the nymphs need tons of quanta. (and the player's entropy nymphs are countered by my entropy nymphs) Shards of patience were because the creatures don't really hit that hard except the werewolves, and due to SoSa being rampant. Of the two wins it somehow managed to get, 0 were thumbs ups.
Today's card is Eternity. My first thought was mummy/mitosis with SoR, but I got thinking that the AI would probably do stupid crap like rewind a mummy with mitosis/SoR already on it, so I went with a darkness duo. I won't say anything more, but it has zero nightmare and zero ghost of the past, so it's not the hated ghostmare :p (actually, it's barely got any darkness cards at all)
Post by: Laxadarap on August 22, 2012, 02:15:46 am
Post by: dragonsdemesne on August 22, 2012, 02:25:13 am
Post by: dragonsdemesne on August 29, 2012, 12:40:39 am
Oracle Card: NIGHTMARE
wins: 46 losses: 16 rank: >500 Rating: -134 age: 7
(http://img7.imageshack.us/img7/5692/eeternity.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/7/eeternity.jpg/)
I -almost- made it to that magic 8 days with this. I think it should be called "I can't believe it's not ghostmare". I wonder if anyone quit without even playing it when they saw the card and mark :p It was about 43-8 and rank 60-70 at the best point I saw it at. I tested one game with my usual arena grinder, and I won easily (31hp EM :p), so I'm not really sure how this deck did as well as it did. At 16/46 thumbs up, it's not great, but not bad.
Today's card is earth pendulum, which gives me lots of options to exercise creativity. I've also got another green nymph (from Sunday oracle) and a mark of light (from Saturday's tourney) added to my ultra rare collection (I have everything else, as I've mentioned) although I don't think I'll be using those this time. Eventually when league codes are sent out, I'll get another mark, and it will be entropy. (mark of light to honour the light decks I used in the tourney, and mark of entropy to honourthe speedbows and DBH I used in league :p) I did a monoearth awhile back with earth pendulum, and it was my highest ranked creative deck and highest thumbs up ratio attempt to date, although I've had higher ranked uncreative decks. Hopefully I can find something to replicate that success with, and I do have an interesting idea I'm going to try...
Post by: dragonsdemesne on August 29, 2012, 11:53:05 pm
Oracle Card: EARTH PENDULUM
wins: 9 losses: 5 rank: >500 Rating: -109 age: 1
I'm not sure what happened here; when I went to work this morning, the deck had a 7-1 record, and now it's knocked out of platinum league :p (just barely, at 509) The strategy should be fairly obvious, and it's quite heavily quantaed in order to make use of the granite skins and icelances, as well as the nymph/squid activation costs and the queen's ability eating up pillars. Purifies because SoSa can go to hell, and poseidons for fun.
Today's card is Wings; I'll usually skip most shields and put farms up, but wings and dimensional shields are still doable with ten copies in the deck, where most others are really hard to succeed with that many. There's a few possibilities I can do with that card, and I think I know the one I'll do; it's one I've never seen before, and I think it might actually do well, too.
Edit: 4/9 thumbs ups was the total for this deck.
edit: helps to have a deck to talk about; fortunately the image was still on my desktop
(http://img837.imageshack.us/img837/4333/eearthpend.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/837/eearthpend.jpg/)
Post by: dragonsdemesne on August 31, 2012, 12:44:41 pm
Oracle Card: WINGS
wins: 4 losses: 4 rank: >500 Rating: -118 age: 2
(http://img171.imageshack.us/img171/5571/ewings.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/171/ewings.jpg/)
I think this deck probably just didn't have enough damage output. Ten copies of wings probably also clogged the hand, but there was nothing I could do about that. I can't ever recall seeing the vampire/sky blitz combo used before, so I went with that, and everything else in the deck supports that combo. I got 2/4 thumbs ups for it, but with only 4 wins, it's hard to read anything into that.
Today's card is mind flayer. That's a tough one to get creative with, especially since I know I've already had that card before. One time I think I did shard of patience/fractal, and another I did some sort of control deck with lightnings and such, and I don't think either one did very well. The only creative thing left I can think of to try is to go with a mostly monoaether and just use the mark for the flayers, so I'll try to make something work with that.
Post by: dragonsdemesne on September 09, 2012, 01:44:45 am
Oracle Card: MIND FLAYER
wins: 54 losses: 18 rank: >500 Rating: -130 age: 8
(http://img543.imageshack.us/img543/8959/emindflayer.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/543/emindflayer.jpg/)
Woo! Managed to make it to 8 days, even with only 175hp and no SoDs. 18/54 wins were thumbs ups, so exactly 1/3, which is probably about average. I went with the triple mark so that an ulitharid could be played every turn without having to include any water quanta sources. An aether duo made sense, given the lobo skill cost. I figured I'd go for a fairly simple rush and pack it full of spiders. The longsword made sense over posideon (noearth) and lobotomizer (I've already got 10 lobos in creature form) so I went with that. SoSas for survivability and Purifies to stop the ubiquitous poison dials and splat farmers. I had a few spare slots so I threw in a TU for fun, some silences for fun, and my nymph for fun.
Today's card is enchant artifact. That tends to lend itself to a large rainbow stall with lots of permanents, as there is little else that can benefit from all those EAs. I was tempted to just put up a farm, but I'm going to try to do something with it. I think I'll try something with mindgate/hourglass/SoSe for draw power, as well as means to get things to put EA on so they aren't wasted. It should be a really fun deck to play against, if nothing else.
Post by: dragonsdemesne on September 09, 2012, 09:14:02 pm
Oracle Card: ENCHANT ARTIFACT
wins: 4 losses: 4 rank: >500 Rating: -138 age: 1
(http://img542.imageshack.us/img542/8006/eeat.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/542/eeat.jpg/)
The win/loss record of this deck is no surprise to me. The fact that it got 0/4 thumbs ups, however, is a shock. This should have been quite an enjoyable deck to face, and quite different from most. I playtested one game against the AI, and I did find that it often made mistakes with aether quanta by playing more mindgates in the early game instead of actually using mindgate, so maybe people punished it for that poor design.
Today's card is earthquake. Not sure if I've had that one before, but I know I've used it in earth/gravity denial decks as well as monoearth rushes with graboid/shriekers and the like, and I think I used it in a darkness/earth duo with gargoyles and pests once as well. I also think I used it in a cremation rush a long time ago. Anyway, I'll be looking for something different from all of those. I might try a time/earth duo with graboids, ghosts, and nymphs, or maybe try something a little more interesting like entropy/earth with discord or life/earth; we'll see...
Post by: Hiddje123 on September 12, 2012, 10:50:31 pm
Post by: dragonsdemesne on September 12, 2012, 11:13:10 pm
The monoearth Shard of Patience deck I made a month or two ago was an exception to the trend; it made the top ten -because- people gave it so many thumbs ups. I've actually been thinking that I should one of these days make the most hateful, unoriginal, asskicking deck I know how to, just to get a baseline for how many people will thumbs up -anything- no matter how unimaginative it is. Something like a physalia poison/sosa deck, or whatever, that is near-guaranteed to get to the top ranks of platinum.
Post by: dragonsdemesne on September 13, 2012, 12:57:06 pm
Oracle Card: WINGS
wins: 19 losses: 9 rank: 456 Rating: -101 age: 4
(http://img338.imageshack.us/img338/7851/equicksand.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/338/equicksand.jpg/)
9/19 thumbs-ups on this one; not bad. It's a deck I'd never seen done before, utilizing an unusual duo combination and a bunch of stuff to synergize with SoP, while earthquakes and wardens/nymphs buy time to grow everything. Probably the SoSas kept it from getting more thumbs ups.
Today's card is bone pillar. Usually I let my decks go until they drop out of platinum (or I draft a usable nymph) but I'm going to test the theory I posted above, and make a terribly unoriginal poison deck and see what the thumbs ups ratio looks like, just so I know what the minimum people will give me is. Apologies in advance for the deck.
edit: Modelled it after this: http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,28528.msg454283.html#msg454283 except I took out 3x SoSa because apparently AI won't ever play more than 6 now, and then added some shards of focus instead, because everyone hates those! I also went -1 arsenic -1 spider -1 puffer (figured SoF/SoSa would take away too much water quanta and it would be unplayable) and +2 shard of patience (to help beat SoSa farmers; purify would beat sosa but cure all the poison I do) and +1 tower to help pay for the SoFs
edit: Wow, in less than a minute it already got a win and a thumbs down :p I wonder if someone just saw the first turn or two and ragequit?
Post by: dragonsdemesne on September 22, 2012, 04:46:26 am
Oracle Card: BONE PILLAR
wins: 63 losses: 19 rank: >500 Rating: -135 age: 8
(http://imageshack.us/a/img707/3589/ebonetower.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/707/ebonetower.jpg/)
I took one of the most hated decks in the arena, and then added completely unnecessary shards of focus (which probably made the deck weaker) simply to annoy people into thumbing it down. 18/63 people still gave it a thumbs up, which probably means those are people who give -everything- thumbs up. (29%) There isn't really much to say about the deck except... sorry, you were all part of an experiment to determine a rough idea of the minimum thumbs ups any deck will get no matter how irritating.
Today's card is emerald shield. There's very little that can be done with that, but I'll try and find something...
Post by: dragonsdemesne on September 22, 2012, 06:56:09 pm
Oracle Card: EMERALD SHIELD
wins: 1 losses: 3 rank: >500 Rating: -106 age: 1
(http://imageshack.us/a/img209/4570/eemshield.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/209/eemshield.jpg/)
On reflection, using a triple mark to cast exactly one life spell all game was extremely stupid. However, an extra 25hp would have done nothing for such a stupid deck. I knew it was bad, but I didn't really care :p I just didn't want to put a farm up. The one win was a thumbs up.
Today's card is nymph's tears. That is one of the most versatile cards for building an arena deck there is, so I'm hoping I can come up with a clever idea. I've already done a light nymph stall, and I think I did a gravity nymph stall once as well. I'm thinking maybe a golden nymph rush or maybe even Queen's Sacrifice, but I'll try and come up with something even more unique, as those I've both seen done before. Heck, yesterday's deck was basically queen sacrifice with jade shields.
Post by: dragonsdemesne on September 29, 2012, 07:29:30 am
Oracle Card: NYMPH's TEARS
wins: 50 losses: 9 rank: 62 Rating: 118 age: 7
(http://imageshack.us/a/img163/7311/enth.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/163/enth.jpg/)
This deck did surprisingly well in terms of win/loss ratio, but surprisingly poorly in terms of thumbs up ratio. I only got 14 thumbs ups, which means that it was 28% thumbs ups. This is 1% *LESS* than the deck I made to specifically get the least number of thumbs ups possible two posts ago! Go figure...
Today's card is lightning. I've had that one a couple times already. One I did flayer fractal, another I think I did frog fractal, and I've done speedbow as well. I also did a neat anubis deck with it once. Time for something else... dunno what yet.
Post by: dragonsdemesne on October 07, 2012, 10:20:11 pm
Oracle Card: THUNDERBOLT
wins: 36 losses: 13 rank: >500 Rating: -167 age: 8 (?)
(http://imageshack.us/a/img571/9255/elightning.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/571/elightning.jpg/)
I was away out of town until Friday, and when I got back, my computer decided to break, so I have no idea how long this deck survived, but based on the fact that it got 49 plays, I'd estimate about 6 days. This deck received 11 thumbs ups, which to me seems very low, since this is a very unusual deck. It also seems odd that it won so many games, but I guess I won't complain about that :p
Today's card is deathstalker. That's quite a narrow card, as it necessarily requires one or more of a very few cards to even be usable, but I'll try to find something unique to do with it.
Post by: sinyor on October 08, 2012, 07:08:04 pm
Post by: dragonsdemesne on October 08, 2012, 07:14:28 pm
Post by: sinyor on October 08, 2012, 07:22:40 pm
Post by: dragonsdemesne on October 10, 2012, 11:40:18 pm
Oracle Card: DEATHSTALKER
wins: 17 losses: 8 rank: >500 Rating: -125 age: 3
(http://imageshack.us/a/img521/6527/edeathstalker.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/521/edeathstalker.jpg/)
This was a fairly typical deathstalker eclipse deck, but I threw in the SoVs, since one of poison's major weaknesses is healing. It performed roughly about as well as I thought it would. The real surprise was that it only got 3/17 thumbs ups; my sosa physalia sofo deck that I built purposely to piss people off got 29% thumbs ups, while this got 17%. I'd say it's because people hate poison, but so did that overused physalia deck, and it had sosa and sofo, the two most hated cards in the game.
Today's card is chimera. I can't think of too much to do with that, but one idea did come to mind that might manage to win a game or two, so I'm going with that.
Post by: dragonsdemesne on October 11, 2012, 11:33:55 pm
Oracle Card: CHIMERA
wins: 2 losses: 3 rank: >500 Rating: -104 age: 1
(http://imageshack.us/a/img90/5860/echimera.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/90/echimera.jpg/)
My reasoning behind designng this deck was based around a few things:
1) A 60 card deck of any sort will dilute the ratio of chimeras in the deck. This is a good thing, since 10 chimeras is way too many for any deck.
2) Scarab spam isn't a terrible strategy, and lots of big scarabs means a chimera with a crapton of hp.
3) Shards of Focus also have lots of hp for chimeras.
4) Trebuchets are useful with high hp creatures, like 31hp SoFs, big scarabs, and gigantic chimeras.
5) SoR is good on every creature in the deck, except SoF. (and chimera, but if the AI plays that, it's playing it to win usually)
6) Fat decks like hourglasses. They also like nymphs with hourglass figures (or precog :p) a.k.a. golden nymph :)
7) Black holes to stall so that maybe the deck can actually get going.
I thought it was a rather interesting and clever way to use chimera as an oracle card. Two of you thought black hole spam was bloody annoying and thumbed it down :p
Today's card is antlion. I did fractal antlion awhile ago, so I'll try something else. If the AI would ever unburrow things, an SoP deck would be my first choice, but since it doesn't, I'll try something else.
Post by: Hiddje123 on October 13, 2012, 05:39:35 am
I, however, did have a deck up about 2 weeks ago which was both VERY original and frustrating to play against (Earthquake is painful XD). Even though it didn't do too well, the whopping 19 plays it did manage to get only got 2 thumbs up. It's also a little bias to then assume people do generally thumbs down against frustrating decks even though they are nicely assembled and original, but this isn't the only time I've noticed this :D
ANGER MANAGEMENT PEOPLE!!!! :)
Post by: dragonsdemesne on October 14, 2012, 11:46:28 pm
Oracle Card: ANTLION
wins: 15 losses: 7 rank: >500 Rating: -120 age: 3
(http://imageshack.us/a/img708/8353/eantlion.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/708/eantlion.jpg/)
This one wasn't particularly imaginative, but it is probably unique. (in other words, it sucks :p) My reasoning behind this one is that since the AI always burrows antlions ASAP, that I would make a deck to actually take advantage of this. The antlions would presumably burrow and be unkillable short of damage shields, while everything else in the deck stalled long enough for either the antlions to make their kill or for the player to run out of cards. Morning glory also fit the theme, since it's indestructible as well. There was no real need to include the unupped mark of light except for style points, and the fact that I used every upped earth pend I own, but wanted one more quanta source. The deck got 7/15 thumbs ups, which is almost half. Not bad, and better than many of the decks I've had lately.
Today's card is lightning. I've had that card quite a few times, including just last week, so I'm not really sure what to do with it that is unique, doesn't suck, and hasn't already been done in this thread.
Post by: dragonsdemesne on October 22, 2012, 12:57:00 pm
Oracle Card: LIGHTNING
wins: 58 losses: 16 rank: 379 Rating: -69 age: 8
(http://imageshack.us/a/img337/3153/ethunder.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/337/ethunder.jpg/)
This deck will probably get knocked out of plat while I'm at work, so I'll replace it now. I apologize for the fact that it wasn't particularly creative, but I've had lightning as a card so many times that I simply had no more good creative ideas for it. I only got 13/58 thumbs ups, but with all those black holes, it's hardly surprising.
Today's card is forest spirit. I know I've done a duo with that before, maybe even twice (I think I did one life mark and one water mark) and I might've even done a speedbow with that. I've got an idea for a 60 card deck that should be interesting, though. It's based on the rainbow FG deck, except better :)
Post by: dragonsdemesne on October 27, 2012, 05:33:44 pm
Oracle Card: FOREST SPIRIT
wins: 38 losses: 13 rank: 455 Rating: -92 age: 5
(http://img832.imageshack.us/img832/6277/eforestspirit.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/832/eforestspirit.jpg/)
13/38 thumbs ups. Basically, for this deck, I took a look at FG: Rainbow, and thought, what cards would make his deck better? I tried to pick cards that fit the holes in his deck, and take out the ones that weren't as effective for him. (particularly his excess of quanta lategame, hence all the cards with activation costs and the diss field) The result seemed to do reasonably well, and slightly more than a third of you liked the result.
Post by: dragonsdemesne on November 02, 2012, 12:58:12 am
Oracle Card: LIGHT NYMPH
wins: 33 losses: 12 rank: >500 Rating: -131 age: 5
(http://img59.imageshack.us/img59/8726/elightnymph.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/59/elightnymph.jpg/)
This deck got 13/46 thumbs ups. It started wtih like 0-6, and I was very confused at first. I can only conclude that everybody else is running OP elite skeleton hope decks in plat, that they are roflstomping everyone, and that I haven't encountered any of them. I mean, come on, using 6 elite skeletons when it's not your oracle card has to be worth a thumbs up almost without regard to the rest of the deck :p No shards, either. Oh, well, at least it had a decent run at 5 days, but I was expecting over 50% thumbs ups due to the uniqueness, and it would've made it at least another day if it had gotten them.
Today's card is hammer. Using the search, the one time I had this card before I ran a monoearth stall thing with some dragons and flying gavels as the damage dealers. As I mentioned in that post, cremation rush (earth mark), monogravity BH spam, and monoother shard/gavelspam are usually what people do with that card, mostly because those are just about the only other viable choices. I've got a bit of a whacky idea this time... it will probably bomb but it should earn a ton of thumbs ups.
edit: because light nymph is the oracle card, not forest spirit
Post by: Elite arbiter on November 03, 2012, 06:00:59 am
Post by: dragonsdemesne on November 08, 2012, 02:52:05 am
Oracle Card: HAMMER
wins: 36 losses: 13 rank: 489 Rating: -101 age: 6
13/36 thumbs up
(http://img18.imageshack.us/img18/7074/ehammer.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/18/ehammer.jpg/)
I got the idea for this from a deck I built for a tourney a few weeks ago, but did not use, with the one main difference being that quicksand was banned that day and I had 2x warden instead. I don't know if the AI played it right, but it hopefully blessed the flying gavels and endowed the blessed gavels, but most likely it just blessed/endowed the first legal target it found :p I wanted to make a deck using gavel that wasn't either immorush, monoearth, monogravity, or monoother, and this was the result. I expected a lot more thumbs ups for it than I got.
Today's card is ice bolt, and I had a rather nifty idea that I want to try, so I'm going to switch now in case I get a crap card tomorrow.
edit: thanks laxa :p I knew there was a reason I let you kick my ass in CL... :) (I forgot the deck image)
Post by: Laxadarap on November 08, 2012, 05:07:44 am
Post by: dragonsdemesne on November 10, 2012, 01:57:13 pm
Oracle Card: ICE BOLT
wins: 6 losses: 4 rank: >500 Rating: -125 age: 3
Thumbs up: 0/6 (wtf?)
(http://img843.imageshack.us/img843/2733/eicebolt.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/843/eicebolt.jpg/)
A water/life stall seemed fairly unique to me, (waterstall? :p ) but apparently nobody at all liked it; maybe it bore too strong a resemblance to firestall. Stall, stall, and stall some more while pumping spectres and watching them blast pass shields with shards of freedom. AI probably couldn't play it very well; knowing when to use your quanta with this sort of deck is critical, and it probably did things like spam the early turns with shards of freedom and slow the important stuff down.
Today's card is luciferin. It's a weak card in terms of raw power, but absolutely fantastic in terms of creative deckbuilding, since it's an other card and can therefore be put into any deck I want. It's also a card I haven't ever gotten before from oracle. This one should be getting tons of thumbs ups.... as soon as I conceive of it.
Post by: sinyor on November 11, 2012, 06:16:52 pm
Post by: dragonsdemesne on November 11, 2012, 10:01:52 pm
Oracle Card: LUCIFERIN
wins: 4 losses: 4 rank: >500 Rating: -115 age: 1
2/4 thumbs up
(http://img696.imageshack.us/img696/6838/eluci.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/696/eluci.jpg/)
Ghostosis with a bit of a twist. I'd done that light nymph/mummy/skele hope thing recently, so I didn't want to do something like that again. Many luciferin decks I see in arena use monolife and hope, so I didn't want to do that either. Another one I often saw was just monolight, usually with dragons, and that's boring; since luciferin can fit anywhere, not just with light, it's more fun to put it somewhere unexpected. Unfortunately for this deck, it would have been completely destroyed by splat or poison dials, which likely accounts for its poor showing. At least a couple people liked it, so I'm not disappointed in the thumbs ups like I was for the icebolt deck above.
Today's card is damselfly. That one's got a fair amount of room for creativity as well. It of course tends more towards rush decks, like immorush or chaos wyrms, but there's all kinds of things that can be done with it. I'm not going to do either of those, since I've done both before. Immorush has been done to death, and I did chaos wyrms when I had butterfly effect as a card, and used damsels as the target. Shard of freedom monoair decks are another common choice, so of course I won't be doing that, either. I could maybe try something with shard of freedom and shard of patience, but I doubt the AI would play it correctly. I'm sure something will come to mind that's unique...
Post by: dragonsdemesne on November 14, 2012, 01:58:01 pm
Oracle Card: DRAGONFLY
wins: 9 losses: 6 rank: >500 Rating: -112 age: 3
5/9 thumbs ups
(http://img543.imageshack.us/img543/4724/edragonfly.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/543/edragonfly.jpg/)
So I ended up doing the shard of patience/freedom thing after all, when I thought of using my nymphs to adrenaline them. The flies will make extra quanta, attack extra times, grow from patience and still attack, and bypass shields. I also threw in a few other fun cards to go along with the theme. Adrenastaves makes a small appearance, mitosis/bond on flies means you can make more flies for free and gain life every turn, and elite queen and sky blitz are for any extra quanta kicking around. I went with only 30 ups this time, since after putting in my nymphs and druid staffs I realized there was no point wasting points on more ups, as I was already not using them all.
Today's card is phoenix. That'll be hard to do something unique with. Firestall is out, immorush is out, fractal phoenix is out, mitophoenix is out, monofire is out, shard of bravery and/or shard of freedom is out. I'll come up with something, but I'm not sure what, yet...
Post by: dragonsdemesne on November 16, 2012, 05:27:25 am
Oracle Card: PHOENIX
wins: 5 losses: 4 rank: >500 Rating: -104 Age: 1
2/5 thumbs up
(http://img87.imageshack.us/img87/4922/ephoenix.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/87/ephoenix.jpg/)
I mentioned all of the decks I didn't want to do last time. I ended up using some shards of freedom anyway, because it synergized with both the phoenixes and the maxwell's. The demon/buckler combo lets the deck theoretically kill most creatures fairly quickly. The discords stall for awhile in order to get set up. The freedom shards get past pesky shields and increase the damage output, which is fairly low. The shards of patience are solely to counter opposing shards of sacrifice, and my own shards of sacrifice keep the deck alive hopefully long enough to win. I playtested one game, and it turns out the AI is pretty bad with it, and will play shards of freedom before anything else, which stalled it by several turns. I kept them in anyway, since I didn't really care if the deck bellyflopped, I just wanted something interesting that hadn't been done.
Today's card is stone dragon. The most obvious choices in my mind for that are monoearth and an earth/light stall with the dragons for damage, so of course I won't be doing either one of those. The elements that I think I see least often paired with earth would be death, life, and entropy, so I think I'll do one of those. (or more, if I can think of a neat trio) If I do entropy, I won't do a discord/quicksand deck, though.
Also, I gained level 76 now, so +1 arena point. I also finished getting the trainer edition of cards (24 of each pillar/pend upped) so I'll have enough upped quanta for all but the very fattest of duos.
edit: fixed typos. Also, I should mention one of the wins was against me; I faced my own deck. The win was legitimate; I didn't concede or anything, but I did of course thumbs up my own deck
Post by: Higurashi on November 16, 2012, 05:49:22 am
Post by: dragonsdemesne on November 16, 2012, 05:53:55 am
Post by: Higurashi on November 16, 2012, 06:11:04 am
Post by: ddevans96 on November 16, 2012, 04:51:31 pm
Thumbs up: 0/6 (wtf?)
Looking at the deck list as a whole, I'd probably thumbs it up...but in the game it's slightly different, and basically comes down to RNG.
An early SoFo, which is unlikely but possible, would probably get a thumbs down from me. Another factor is what deck I'm playing - if it pretty much slaughters me, I'd be more tempted to thumbs it down than if it was a close match, in which case I'd thumbs it up. Hopefully, though, the game would probably play out in such a way that I'd thumbs it up, because waterstalls are pretty cool :3
This is completely disregarding the fact you have my respect as a player, and I'd usually thumbs you up regardless, especially considering you tend to go for more original decks, like the LuciGhostosis. That would be awesome to see in action :P
Post by: dragonsdemesne on November 17, 2012, 06:09:52 pm
Oracle Card: STONE DRAGON
wins: 7 losses: 5 rank: >500 Rating: -112 age: 2
4/7 thumbs up :)
(http://img72.imageshack.us/img72/5881/estonedragon.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/72/estonedragon.jpg/)
This deck had an interesting run. The first day, it went 7-0, and I was quite surprised. Then it lost a game, so I playtested to see if I could figure out why. I beat my arena deck because it was completely flooded with life quanta and didn't have enough earth quanta, so I went -3 pend +3 tower, and then it lost 4 more games and dropped out of plat :p I packed the deck with tons of stall, and used the dragons for damage, if it couldn't win by deckout. It got a decent thumbs up score, but like several of my recent decks, the sample size is quite small, so it's hard to know for sure. I don't think I've seen this deck done before, at least not in earth/life form; I've seen earth/light many times.
Today's card is fire buckler. Monofire and firestall are out, and I just did a maxwell's buckler deck, so I'll need something different.
Post by: dragonsdemesne on November 19, 2012, 06:22:28 am
Oracle Card: FIRE SHIELD
wins: 3 losses: 4 rank: >500 Rating: -112 age: 1
3/3 thumbs up 8) 8)
(http://img196.imageshack.us/img196/8786/efireshield.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/196/efireshield.jpg/)
With the recent maxwell demon/buckler deck I made with phoenix, that deck was obviously on my mind when I built this one, as that's what I would have done had I not just done it. I realized that gravity actually had a similar synergy with otyughs that I have never seen exploited, so I decided to do that. Apparently 3/3 of you have never seen that done, either :) The deck didn't do very well, but to get all thumbs ups even when it has sosa and sofo is a fairly decent achievement, so this deck was a success, given what I'm trying to do.
Today's card is precognition. I could wait 40 minutes and spin something else, but I have work in the morning, and I'm just going to build something with that now. I'm not sure what I can do that's unique with it, but I'll try something, as usual... maybe a shard golem deck? That might actually work, assuming the AI plays things in the right order... oh wait, it's the AI :p
Post by: dragonsdemesne on November 20, 2012, 04:26:33 am
Oracle Card: PRECOGNITION
wins: 1 losses: 3 rank: >500 Rating: -112 age: 1
0/1 thumbs up
(http://img19.imageshack.us/img19/5157/eprecog.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/19/eprecog.jpg/)
It would have been a fairly easy thing to build a winner with precog, if I had gone with a speedbow, or even some sort of time deck or immorush. I figured instead that I'd take a slight modification of my FG: Serket counter, by adding some rewinds, and see what happened. Not surprisingly, it didn't do that well; it has no counter to SoSa farmers, as I don't think the AI will rewind its own creatures in the face of SoSa, though I have never tested this. I probably also had way too much time quanta with a triple mark, but I doubt +20 hp would have given this silly deck much help. And yes, I know a wind tower would have been better than the mark of air, but it's stylish :)
Today's card is fire spirit. I was thinking of a fire/air rush with elite fireflies and sky blitz, but I think I may have done that before. If I haven't, I'll do that, but if I have, I'll figure something else out. *heads off to the previous pages of this thread...*
edit: Seems I did exactly that... http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,28528.msg535218/topicseen.html#msg535218 Back to the drawing board...
Post by: dragonsdemesne on November 23, 2012, 02:00:56 am
Oracle Card: FIRE SPIRIT
wins: 7 losses: 4 rank: >500 Rating: -93 age: 3
2/7 thumbs up
(http://img94.imageshack.us/img94/662/efirespirit.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/94/efirespirit.jpg/)
To a large degree, I kind of ignored the oracle card in this deck, although there was a loose theme to it. The theme was basically to make oodles and oodles of fire quanta, and have lots of things to do with the excess every turn. Red nymphs either kill enemy creatures or pump themselves or the steam machines, and purify (which the AI will pretty much always play on a raged creature if able) will help it rage more often. Fire lances and fahrenheits obviously benefit from lots of fire quanta, and the spectres and machines will be pumping themselves pretty much every turn. (also, the deck was hovering in the 490-510 rank range, and so I left it up, but it got no plays in the last two days, so I took it down)
Today's card is pulverizer. That's a narrow card just because of the forced duo between earth and gravity. However... if I use shard of readiness and animate weapon, I can ignore gravity and do something totally different... not sure what yet, but that will definitely be the core of the deck. I've done gravity/earth denial decks a few times before; quicksands, black holes, pulverizer, etc. Interestingly, they've been fairly well received in the past, getting a decent number of thumbs ups. In any even, a pulverizer deck without gravity quanta should be unique enough to get thumbs ups... I just have to figure out how to make one that won't completely fail.
Post by: dragonsdemesne on November 23, 2012, 11:52:22 pm
Oracle Card: PULVERIZER
wins: 1 losses: 3 rank: >500 Rating: -113 age: 1
0/1 thumbs up (and that person should be ashamed of themselves, both for actually losing to this pile of junk, and for not considering it original! :p)
(http://img837.imageshack.us/img837/6995/pulverizer.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/837/pulverizer.jpg/)
My red nymphs are getting a workout this week... Anyway, here's my gravityless pulverizer deck :p Flying pulvies, with nymphs to pump them and for creature control, and AW/shards for obvious reasons. (plus shards work on nymphs, too) Holy flash was more for the rofl factor, but it does synergize with red nymph since you can heal two rage pots worth of damage with it, though whether the AI was aware of this, I don't know. In the one game I playtested, it never played any holy flashes.
Today's card is lightning. I think I've done speedbow, monoaether, water/aether SoP (flayers/lightnings off mark), and I remember doing a time/aether duo with anubis that was fairly well-received using lightning when I got anubis as a card. I also did a giant 60 card rainbow stall with pretty much every bolt spell in the game. Therefore, all of those possibilities are out. I'll conjure up some sort of strangeness and see where it takes me... oh yeah, I think I did bonebolt once, too, so that's out. Maybe frogtal or devtal... though that's not too original. Something will present itself, I'm sure...
Post by: dragonsdemesne on November 30, 2012, 07:31:13 am
Oracle Card: LIGHTNING
wins: 37 losses: 10 rank: 91 Rating: 89 age: 7
(forgot to post deck image... oops)
deck contents: (all upped)
5x thunderbolt
6x nymph's tears
3x purify
6x shard of wisdom
15x aether pendulum
16/37 thumbs up
I'm fairly pleased with this deck. It did better than I thought, and made it the full week. It might've made it that one more day, but with 52hp, I'm not holding out too much hope, and either way, there's not too much point leaving it up while it's that low; it'll probably lose nearly every game if I leave it around. It also got more thumbs ups than I thought, as I had been thinking people might hate the immortal aspect of the turquoise nymphs created by the tears, but apparently people didn't mind too much; it got at least an average thumbs up ratio, so that didn't seen to bother most people. It's very simple in concept; spam aether nymphs, who then quint themselves, and SoW them to get past most shields. Instantly loses to any reflective shield, since even the thunderbolts are blocked, but those are rarely played, so it probably didn't happen too often. The purifies were for the ever ubiquitous SoSa farmers, of course, since they'd have trashed this deck otherwise.
Today's card is empathic bond. I've had that one before, so I'll have to check what I've done in the past, and do something else. I'm thinking maybe mitosis and something a little unconventional, but we'll see...
Post by: dragonsdemesne on December 01, 2012, 07:32:38 am
Oracle Card: FERAL BOND
wins: 1 losses: 3 rank: >500 Rating: -115 Age: 1
0/1 thumbs up
(http://img202.imageshack.us/img202/2463/ebond.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/202/ebond.jpg/)
A complete and utter failure, no matter how you look at it :p Goal was stoneskins for oodles of quanta while healing for oodles of hp via bonds/mitosis on cheap creatures. Mission: unsuccessful.
Today's card is schrodinger's cat. I don't think I've ever gotten that for my oracle card. There's a few neat ideas like cat bonewall, but while rarely done, that's hardly innovative. I'll try to find something that is.
Post by: dragonsdemesne on December 02, 2012, 07:07:59 am
Oracle Card: SCHRODINGER'S CAT
wins: 0 losses: 3 rank: 666 Rating: -120 age: 1
(http://img838.imageshack.us/img838/1603/ecat.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/838/ecat.jpg/)
A complete and utter failure once more! :p Not much to say. I'll bet the AI didn't play mitosis on the right target (cat) to make cheap mutation fodder; it probably played it on the druids, which would result in pure fail :p
Today's card is turquoise nymph. Yay nymph! Of course, as fate would have it, I just did a nymph's tears/SoW deck based on turquoise nymph, so I'll have to look for something more innovative than that... I really wish the AI could play a turquoise nymph/reflective shield/SoW deck correctly... if I ever get about 4 or 5 turquoises, I want to make that deck for pvp :p
Post by: dragonsdemesne on December 03, 2012, 01:45:09 pm
Oracle Card: TURQUOISE NYMPH
wins: 3 losses: 4 rank: >500 Rating: -140 age: 1
0/3 thumbs up
(http://img405.imageshack.us/img405/2608/eturquoise.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/405/eturquoise.jpg/)
After having done turquoise nymph's tears so recently, I wasn't really sure what to do, so I slapped together a bunch of dims and mindgates, added lots of extra quanta for the gates, and decided to see how that did. I even threw in the upped aether nymph I had from my n00b beginnings, since I rarely get to use that for anything. Apparently nobody liked it :p
Today's card is entropy pendulum. I'll try to find an interesting duo or even trio with that. If I were going just for wins, I'd probably do a DBH, but I won't be that mean :p
Post by: dragonsdemesne on December 05, 2012, 01:51:15 pm
Oracle Card: ENTROPY PENDULUM
wins: 6 losses: 5 rank: >500 Rating: -128 Age: 2
2/6 thumbs up
(http://img853.imageshack.us/img853/1108/eependg.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/853/eependg.jpg/)
My inspiration for this deck was the earth/light stall 'the immortal', but instead of using light for miracles and sancs, I used entropy for purple nymphs, as well as some discord/AW/CP for damage.
Today's card is dragonfly. I've had that one several times before. Immorush, chaos wyrms, mitobondflies, BE flies, I've all done before, and I think some others as well, which I'll check via search function. No idea at all what I'll do yet. Maybe something funny with light/air like a pegasus dive deck? :p
edit: to actually put the deck image in, which fortunately I had saved on my desktop still
Post by: dragonsdemesne on December 08, 2012, 07:00:38 pm
Oracle Card: DRAGONFLY
wins: 19 losses: 8 rank: >500 Rating: -111 age: 3
9/19 thumbs up
(http://img706.imageshack.us/img706/4724/edragonfly.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/706/edragonfly.jpg/)
A fun little deck based on an old idea, the pegasus blessing rush. Originally I'd had an air mark, but when I playtested the deck once, it got no light towers and just damselflies, so it couldn't do anything at all, and I ended up going with just the flies for air quanta. It didn't do great, but it did get nearly 50% thumbs ups. I'm hoping the SoSas and sky blitz surprised a few people :)
Today's card is fire pendulum. I haven't got any ideas off the top of my head for that one yet, but it should allow for some decent flexibility. I'll check back on what I've done before to narrow down the possibilities.
Post by: dragonsdemesne on December 12, 2012, 12:50:48 am
Oracle Card: FIRE PENDULUM
wins: 15 losses: 7 rank: >500 Rating: -88 age: 3
7/15 thumbs up
(http://img521.imageshack.us/img521/4646/efirepend.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/521/efirepend.jpg/)
A remarkably simple idea that I can't recall seeing before. Ruby dragon, as I found in my test game, is a creature that the AI will actually cast twin universe on right away, instead of sitting on them for way too long. (think FG: Gemini for example) There isn't really a lot to say about the deck; it's a one-trick pony, albeit a good trick. I didn't get a lot of plays with the deck. Last night, it had the same 15-7 record, but was still around 450th place. When I got up in the morning, it was still 15-7 and about the same rank again. When I got home from work just now, it was still 15-7, but in 520th place.
Today's card is toadfish. I'll check what I may have done with that in the past, and then do something different, as usual.
edit: looks like I've done monowater stall and a life duo with forest spectre the other two times I've had toadfish. I was thinking maybe a gravity duo for momentum or something...
Post by: Laxadarap on December 12, 2012, 05:00:56 am
Post by: dragonsdemesne on December 14, 2012, 01:45:40 pm
Oracle Card: TOADFISH
wins: 23 losses: 8 rank: >500 Rating: -102 Age: 3
(http://img191.imageshack.us/img191/2751/etoadfish.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/191/etoadfish.jpg/)
10/23 thumbs up
As you can see, the entire deck was built around the awesomeness of UNSTOPPABLE PUFFERFISH :p I was pretty happy when after the first time I checked on it, it was 5-0 with several thumbs ups, but sadly it wasn't able to maintain such a record.
Today's card is solar shield. That's a pretty awful one to have so many copies with, unfortunately. I'm going to try something extremely silly and crazy with this one... :p It probably won't win any games, but it'll be unique for sure...
Post by: dragonsdemesne on December 15, 2012, 09:14:51 am
Oracle Card: SOLAR SHIELD
wins: 1 losses: 3 rank: >500 Rating: -106 Age: 1
1/1 thumbs up. (well, for this deck, I should hope so! :p)
(http://img341.imageshack.us/img341/8655/esolarbuckler.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/341/esolarbuckler.jpg/)
A very weird PSNbow built around the synergy between generating malignant cells and them feeding solar buckler. Then I tried to make sure that the other elements each had something to do with their supernova quanta. Also, I started this game in March 2010, closing in on two years in this game, and this is the the very first time I have ever used aflatoxin in any deck of any kind. It gets my vote for worst card in the game. (yes, I do think flooding is better, and I have very rarely actually use flooding)
Today's card is Parasite. I am pretty sure I did a death duo with shard of sacrifice with that once; I'll check my history and find something new.
Post by: dragonsdemesne on December 16, 2012, 04:24:52 pm
Oracle Card: PARASITE
wins: 4 losses: 4 rank: >500 Rating: -125 age: 1
(http://img38.imageshack.us/img38/5369/eparasite.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/38/eparasite.jpg/)
1/4 thumbs ups
This time, I decided to go for more of a thematic deck, and built around the creature poison ability. I figured that skull bucklers and graveyards would benefit each other, as well as from the creatures dying to infect. Note the inclusion of aflatoxin for two decks in a row! :p Of course it didn't do very well, as it's a silly deck, but remarkably it still pulled off a 50% win rate.
Today's card is chrysaora. I've had that one a few times before, and even built a #1 rank deck with that using SoSa and the usual poison crap. I'd like to do something slightly different with it, though, and I have an idea... I've always wanted to try fractal physalias, so I'll see if I can find a build for that that I like.
edit: because deck images help
Post by: dragonsdemesne on December 20, 2012, 04:18:38 am
Oracle Card: PARASITE
wins: 25 losses: 9 rank: >500 Rating: -107 age: 3
9/25 thumbs ups
(http://img145.imageshack.us/img145/6580/echrysaora.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/145/echrysaora.jpg/)
The first time I checked on this deck, it was 6-0 with 5 thumbs up, so I really thought I'd hit on a winner, but it wasn't able to maintain that kind of momentum. I deliberately way overquantaed the deck because I wanted the AI to empty its hand as quick as possible for the fractals, so it was an attempt to compromise for AI stupidity. The deck did alright, but it's getting harder for anything creative to be competitive, because platinum is becoming very crowded with players. When I first got into platinum, I don't think there were more than like 600 people there, and even the dumbest of decks would last 6+ days with a record far worse than this one had, but now I've seen rank as low as the 800s, so at any given time, over a third of the people in platinum (at least) have their decks knocked out.
Anyway, today's card is shrieker. I have a rather funny idea to do with that one. It'll probably actually be a half-decent deck, but the best part is the epic name I'll have for it. It shall be known as 'silent shriekers'. I'll let you infer the deck from that.
Post by: dragonsdemesne on December 27, 2012, 07:35:28 pm
Oracle Card: SHRIEKER
wins: 36 losses: 12 rank: >500 Rating: -108 Age: 8
thumbs up: 11/36
(http://img827.imageshack.us/img827/4449/eshrieker.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/827/eshrieker.jpg/)
I call my creation 'silent shriekers', and built it solely because of the amusing juxtaposition between the two cards :p Dirk was used instead of longsword because AI plays permanents before spells, and if longsword took 1 :aether when there was 2 :aether available from the double mark, it would break the silence chain. Also, dirk is just rofl :p I can't help but think if more people had realized that rather comical juxtaposition, it might've gotten more thumbs-ups, but oh well :)
Today's card is arsenic. It might be fairly hard to build something creative with that. People hate poison decks, and most of the next most obvious choices aren't that creative, either, like crusader arsenics or flying eclipsed arsenics or whatever. I'll see what I can come up with...
Post by: dragonsdemesne on December 29, 2012, 04:42:06 pm
Oracle Card: ARSENIC
wins: 11 losses: 5 rank: ??? Rating: -111 Age: 2
thumbs up: 1/11 (wtf...?)
(http://img88.imageshack.us/img88/5635/earsenic.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/88/earsenic.jpg/)
Not being sure what to do with arsenic, I came up with basically a light stall, with a bit of a twist, throwing in a few dragons to use the excess quanta. Despite this being a somewhat creative way of using arsenic, it only got one thumb up total. I'm not sure what my deck's arena rank is, as it has been saying NaN the whole time it's been up, but based on the rating, it's probably dropped out of platinum or very darned close. I really thought this would get more thumbs ups than it did. I didn't even use any shards... :p Ah well, win some, lose some.
Today's card is hematite golem. I think I had that once before and did a fire duo, but I'll check my history and find something new to do with it.
edit: Seems I only had hematite golem once, and did a weird speedbow using earth towers with it. My first instinct was to use rage potion/red nymphs, but that's actually rather overdone, so I'll do something else.
Post by: dragonsdemesne on December 31, 2012, 08:29:01 pm
Oracle Card: HEMATITE GOLEM
wins: 10 losses: 5 rank: >500 Rating: -102 age: 2
4/10 thumbs up
(http://img841.imageshack.us/img841/1117/ehematite.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/841/ehematite.jpg/)
Overdriven steel golems with a bunch of denial. I thought it might do a little better than it did, but I suppose it bends over to splat/poison dials. It's surprising how scary an overdriven golem can get sometimes :)
Today's card is scarab. I'm not yet sure what I'll do with that, but since it's rarely actually used, almost anything I do should be fairly new :p I think I did a speedbow with it once, and that's what people usually do with it anyway, so that's out.
Post by: dragonsdemesne on January 04, 2013, 05:26:51 am
Oracle Card: SCARAB
wins: 28 losses: 9 rank: >500 Rating: -109 Age: 3
11/28 thumbs up
(http://img805.imageshack.us/img805/571/escarab.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/805/escarab.jpg/)
I didn't think this was too imaginative, but I guess it didn't do too badly compared to some; it managaed about average for thumbs up,which was more than I expected, actually. Mostly monotime, with a few things to use the gravity quanta on; black holes from SoF, trebs for large scarabs to get around shields, and one pimp ass foil chimera, ostensibly for the same reason, but more to show off with :p
Today's card is poison. That's a favourite for #1 decks, but I want something far more interesting than monodeath or poison dials or physalia poison. I also see quite a lot of novabows, particularly in the lower leagues, that use poison to good effect. I'm thinking I'll try something different than all of these...
Post by: dragonsdemesne on January 06, 2013, 10:19:47 pm
Oracle Card: POISON
wins: 23 losses: 9 rank: >500 Rating: -106 Age: 3
9/23 thumbs up :(
(http://img138.imageshack.us/img138/8864/epoison.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/138/epoison.jpg/)
I didn't want to do the 'standard' decks with poison, so I went with good old 'suddenly firestall', only with death :p I figured the red nymphs and bone walls would produce some fun synergy, and with all of the CC in the deck, the bone walls and graveyards should build up fairly nicely. It didn't do all that well, and apparently nobody really liked it much, either.
Today's card is stone pillar. I am going to build a shard golem deck with this one. In the past, I tried this once, and it failed miserably, but that was because the AI did not know what order to play the shards. This time, however, since the shards are elemental and not colourless, I can simply deny the AI the quanta of the 'wrong' shards to play :p It will mean that I will have to use a different selection of shards than a human might, but I'm hoping the idea will still be sound. If worst comes to worst, at least it will be a shard farm for you all :)
edit: Yikes... after a bunch of playtesting vs my Sosebow, this deck is a beast :p It's getting like 5-6 TTW most of the time, and I haven't beaten it in like 8 games. Even when SoSe gave me a gravity shield, I still lost.
Post by: dragonsdemesne on January 10, 2013, 01:48:37 pm
Oracle Card: POISON
wins: 24 losses: 8 rank: >500 Rating: -119 Age: 4
10/24 thumbs up
(http://img213.imageshack.us/img213/2659/estonepillar.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/213/estonepillar.jpg/)
I was expecting a lot more from this deck. I playtested it quite a few times, and I thought it was really good. I also thought it was a new idea, so I'm surprised that it didn't do better in the thumbs up department as well. Decks relying on SoSa should have suffered from silence, and I figured that was the card this deck most feared, but I suppose that the AI wouldn't have timed it right; still, even just randomly playing silences should have caught at least some of those people. A stall with lots of healing/turn like Sanc/SoG could've won, assuming that it got the chance to set up through quicksand/silence. If anyone faced this and beat it, or can spot any reason it might've failed, let me know :) Oh, and I should mention that I deliberately did not include any darkness quanta; I wanted the shards of void to be part of the shard golem, not to be played. The idea was to try and get a vampiric golem. Even if it didn't get vampiric, the golems would get devourer with a void shard, and that adds to the denial factor as well.
Today's card is auburn nymph. I haven't spun a nymph in what seems forever. I'll try to find something interesting to do with that.
edit: I decided not to try :p I threw together all the cards currently in my signature and then filled the rest with quantum towers. Enjoy the relics! It probably won't win any games, but I'm hoping at least it'll look stylish!
Post by: dragonsdemesne on January 11, 2013, 12:19:44 am
Oracle Card: AUBURN NYMPH
wins: 1 losses: 3 rank: >500 Rating: -110 Age: 0
1/1 thumbs up
(http://img713.imageshack.us/img713/5670/eauburn.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/713/eauburn.jpg/)
No attempt was made to do any kind of balancing of any sort other than to pick the deck mark of the most quanta-intensive nymph. (purple costs 9 and 4 to activate, auburn costs 8 and 3) The deck looks really pimp, but it's not very good :p Chimera is foil (spins as relic) which is why it was included. 1 purple nymph is upgraded because I have 7, and one aether nymph is upgraded because I was a n00b at the time I got that one and upped it before I played in pvp events.
I'll edit this post once I know what tomorrow's card is.
edit: it's antimatter
Post by: dragonsdemesne on January 12, 2013, 01:58:49 pm
Oracle Card: ANTIMATTER
wins: 7 losses: 4 rank: >500 Rating: -111 Age: 1
2/7 thumbs ups (it deserved more! :p)
(http://img10.imageshack.us/img10/1873/eantimatter.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/10/eantimatter.jpg/)
I figured I'd throw together this fun little stall for people. Mitosised adrenalined scorpions for the damage, and everything else keeps you alive while that hopefully does the job. I thought it would get way more thumbs ups than it did, but I didn't think it would do any better than it did in terms of win/loss. I never do QI for my arena decks, but I think it is probably short on life quanta and has extra entropy. (though the dissipation shields make that second point acceptable)
Today's card is seraph. I've got a plan for this one. I haven't seen it done in the arena before, so in theory it's original, but it's close to many other decks, and it might annoy people, so I don't think it will score too well. We'll see, however... I think it should last awhile, though; it should be fairly competitive.
Post by: Laxadarap on January 12, 2013, 11:49:05 pm
Post by: dragonsdemesne on January 13, 2013, 01:20:58 am
The seraph deck is 4-2 so far with 3/4 thumbs ups :) It's a SoBr/SoFr immorush with a sky blitz. After it lost the first game, I also put in two purifies instead of some of the brimstone eaters I had, since it looked like it would fail to SoSa decks otherwise.
Post by: dragonsdemesne on January 13, 2013, 05:02:01 pm
Oracle Card: SERAPH
wins: 6 losses: 5 rank: >500 Rating: -112 age: 1
4/6 thumbs ups :)
(http://img197.imageshack.us/img197/1483/eseraph.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/197/eseraph.jpg/)
This deck didn't do quite as well as I thought it would. Looking at it now, I think it probably has too many shards of freedom, particularly as the AI gets to double them. I probably should've ditched the sky blitz and gone fire mark as well. Also, since it was not run by laxadarap, hax draws with immorush were much less likely! :P (he always gets hax draws with immorush in league)
Today's card is antimatter, again. We'll see if I can conjure up something interesting...
Post by: Laxadarap on January 14, 2013, 04:57:33 am
180hp, 60 wisdom, 2x card draw, 3x mark
Oracle Card: SERAPH
wins: 6 losses: 5 rank: >500 Rating: -112 age: 1
4/6 thumbs ups :)
(http://img197.imageshack.us/img197/1483/eseraph.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/197/eseraph.jpg/)
This deck didn't do quite as well as I thought it would. Looking at it now, I think it probably has too many shards of freedom, particularly as the AI gets to double them. I probably should've ditched the sky blitz and gone fire mark as well. Also, since it was not run by laxadarap, hax draws with immorush were much less likely! :P (he always gets hax draws with immorush in league)
Today's card is antimatter, again. We'll see if I can conjure up something interesting...
Don't be hatin XD. Also, I would have thumbed up at first sight of a bow lol.
Post by: dragonsdemesne on January 17, 2013, 12:36:54 am
Oracle Card: ANTIMATTER
wins: 24 losses: 6 rank: >500 Rating: -100 Age: 3
4/24 thumbs ups (i.e. 20 of you suck! :p)
(http://img40.imageshack.us/img40/1873/eantimatter.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/40/eantimatter.jpg/)
I cannot believe so many people didn't think this was creative and unique. I have never seen this done before, or even anything really close to it. I'm really stingy with thumbs ups, and I'd have thumbed this one up. I thought it was one of my most creative decks in quite some time, and I was expecting a noticeably higher thumbs up rating, yet it got one of my lowest approval ratings ever. (I think SoSa physalia got like twice the ratio of thumbs ups, for comparison...) If anyone knows why, especially those who actually downrated it, I'd love to know, because I thought this was a brilliantly unique deck.
Anyway, rant over :p Today's card is air pendulum, so I've got quite a bit of freedom to play around in deckbuilding. Not sure what I'll do yet, but odds are it will be really weird, and probably do poorly as a result.
edit:
Don't be hatin XD. Also, I would have thumbed up at first sight of a bow lol.
I'm counting on that... the air pend deck I just built has 12 of them :)
Post by: kimham8a on January 17, 2013, 12:54:16 am
Post by: dragonsdemesne on January 22, 2013, 01:54:39 pm
200 hp, 60 wisdom, 2x card draw, 2x mark
Oracle Card: AIR PENDULUM
wins: 45 losses: 12 rank: 495 (just for kim, hehe; actually, was gonna take it down anyway) Rating: -104 Age: 6
13/45 thumbs up
(http://img811.imageshack.us/img811/4690/eairpend.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/811/eairpend.jpg/)
This is the -real- novabow... :) Just a simple flying bows deck, using novas for acceleration plus the ability to splash a few nonair cards. Sadly, I had to include the purifies due to shard of sacrifice, but that's the fate of many decks. It did quite a bit better than I thought, possibly because those purifies screwed all the pdial/splat decks.
Today's card is horned frog. I've had that one a few times before, so finding something unique will be even harder than usual, but I'll give it my best shot.
Post by: dragonsdemesne on January 25, 2013, 01:54:51 pm
Oracle Card: HORNED FROG
wins: 22 losses: 6 rank: 495 Rating: -92 Age: 3
4/22 thumbs ups (seriously? wtf?)
(http://img442.imageshack.us/img442/2169/efrog.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/442/efrog.jpg/)
I thought this deck was dead sexy. 18 of you didn't. You are all wrong! :p Not too much to explain; it's frog rush, with SoBe for even more rush, and various whatevers splashed in with nova to either make it last longer against stalls (firemasters) or disrupt the opponent (quicksand, silence) or stop OPness (purify) or just use up whatever quanta was left in the other elements off nova.
I'm taking the deck down a bit early because one loss will knock it out, and because I got devonian dragon today, which I don't think I've spun before, so I wanted to use that while I could.
edit: devonian dragon is 14-0 and rank 40 so far, but very low thumbs ups for some reason, even though I've never seen this deck before. Le sigh...
Post by: dragonsdemesne on January 30, 2013, 01:56:19 pm
Oracle Card: DEVONIAN DRAGON
wins: 48 losses: 11 rank: >500 Rating: -90 Age: 5 (saw it peak at about 20-0 and rank 40)
thumbs up: 10/48 (people are being REALLY stingy lately it seems, even with clever decks)
(http://img201.imageshack.us/img201/4116/edevdrag.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/201/edevdrag.jpg/)
I thought this was a clever deck, but it seems it is less creative than sosa physalia or something, based on the thumbs... It was 20-0 and about rank 40 at one point, leading me to think it might do very well, but either the hp loss really hurt it, or that was a fluke, or it had a bad streak, or something.
Today's card is gravity shield. I thought about just making a farm, but I do have 3 auburn nymphs, and so I'm going to try something a little silly with that.
Post by: Marsu on January 30, 2013, 02:07:52 pm
(By the way, BL? :p)
Post by: dragonsdemesne on January 30, 2013, 02:10:52 pm
Always fun to see those creative decks and how they do. Keep it up!
(By the way, BL? :p)
Thanks for the vote of confidence. No BL at this time for me though, going to work in a few minutes.
Post by: dragonsdemesne on January 31, 2013, 07:07:30 am
Oracle Card: GRAVITY SHIELD
wins: 3 losses: 3 rank: >500 Rating: -101 age: 1
2/3 thumbs up
Well, that was a flop :p But I didn't expect much from it at all, especially given the AI's poor play, and this deck would actually take some skill to play right, and even then it's mediocre at best.
Today's card is phase dragon. I have no idea what to do with that that won't have people thumbing it down, but I'll find something.
edit: Damn, I forgot to take a picture of the deck :p It was something like this:
5x gravity shield
3x auburn nymph
6x pulverizer
6x animate weapon
whatever pillars/pends
edit: Day 4 of the phase dragon deck: 10/51 thumbs ups, 51-4 record, rank 19. My best one in awhile in terms of rating, but it hasn't proven very popular. Still, looking at how the 18th place deck has a 58-4 win record and 1 more rating point, it could be worse :p I did make a deck that I can't remember ever seeing in the arena before, so I think it's fairly unique, but at the same time I can definitely understand how people would be annoyed at playing against it, even though it's not a monoaether. It's a duo with light.
edit: 53-4, rank 11. Will be impossible to calculate thumbs if it breaks top 10.
edit: 69-5, rank 3, day 6. I don't think I can become the top deck, because its rating is 380, 61-0 record, and I'm at 273 rating, but I'll give it a go anyway. My deck already has shards of divinity, so it might last a bit longer than usual at low HP.
edit: 71-5, rank 2, day 7. That's probably the peak it's going to achieve, but I'll let it go until it drops out of plat, unless I get something particularly useful.
edit: 79-7, 1hp deck now, so that's the peak W/L unless it somehow wins at 1hp, which I really doubt, given that the deck is quite slow, though with SoDs it is possible I suppose, just very unlikely given the design.
Post by: dragonsdemesne on February 09, 2013, 12:18:15 am
Oracle Card: PHASE DRAGON
wins: 79 losses: 16 rank: >500 Rating: -102 Age: 8 (peaked at rank 2, and 79-7; no wins after going to 1hp)
thumbs up: unknown due to achieving top 10, but it earned 1704 electrum. It was at about 20-25% in the first few days, though.
(http://img841.imageshack.us/img841/7794/ephasedragon.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/841/ephasedragon.jpg/)
Can you say stall? Say it with me now... :) I haven't seen this particular deck before in arena, although it seems a fairly obvious design to me. I figured it should be able to outstall common decks like poison dials (the only test I did was 1 game vs poison dials, and pdials decked out against it) and stall long enough with copious amounts of healing and dimshields for the wise phase dragons to do their thing. I only used 3 miracles because I didn't want the hand getting clogged, since there are also all those dims that the AI will be holding onto. I didn't use sundials because of the dragons, but in a creatureless version I'd definitely have packed 6 sundials in this type of deck.
Today's card is Owl's Eye. I'm not sure what to do that's unique with that yet. I'll probably have to use animate weapon... after that, I'm not sure. Maybe maxwell's demons or bone walls or something... or maybe a trio.... hmmm... :)
Post by: dragonsdemesne on February 09, 2013, 05:57:24 pm
Oracle Card: OWL'S EYE
wins: 0 losses: 2 rank: >500 Rating: -102 Age: 8
0/0 thumbs up (infinity % thumbs ups! yay! :p I'd like to think this would have earned a lot of thumbs, though)
(http://img35.imageshack.us/img35/2705/eeexd.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/35/eeexd.jpg/)
I thought this was quite an interesting trio, but interesting doesn't mean that it can win games. Ah, well... lots of synergies but probably lots of AI fails, too, plus the usual quanta fails that inevitably accompany trios.
Today's card is bone pillar. Lots of flexibility there, and I'll try not to do some boring monodeath thing.
Post by: dragonsdemesne on February 10, 2013, 07:11:20 am
Oracle Card: BONE PILLAR
wins: 2 losses: 3 rank: >500 Rating: -94Age: 1
thumbs up: 2/2 8)
(http://img59.imageshack.us/img59/8779/ebonepillar.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/59/ebonepillar.jpg/)
I tried to work a delicate balance between using cool, underused cards, and not making a deck that sucked. I apparently succeeded at the first and failed at the second. At least it got thumbs ups on both the wins!
Today's card is plate armour. Ugh... so useless :p I'll try to find something, though...
Post by: dragonsdemesne on February 11, 2013, 01:48:41 pm
Oracle Card: HEAVY ARMOUR
wins: 4 losses: 3 rank: >500 Rating: -92 Age: 1
Thumbs ups: 3/4
(http://img705.imageshack.us/img705/4691/ehahs.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/705/ehahs.jpg/)
Once more, a failure on the effectiveness but a success on the thumbs up. I figured otyugh and scarab were the most obvious things to do with heavy armour, followed by something like immorush (to keep golems etc alive that first turn) so of course I went a different route. I figured phase salvager is rather new, and it obviously benefits from heavy armour more than most, so I tried to build around that. Dims and quicksands were for stalling, while the mindgates did their thing. Mindgate is sooooo fun... :)
Today's card is mummy. That seems a bit of a tough one to be creative with, but I'll make it work!
Post by: dragonsdemesne on February 12, 2013, 01:51:08 pm
Oracle Card: MUMMY
wins: 8 losses: 2 rank: 352 Rating: -30 Age: 1
2/8 thumbs up
(http://img203.imageshack.us/img203/2096/emummy.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/203/emummy.jpg/)
I thought this was a fun little deck. It's basically the bonecat thing, only with a few extra little toys. I don't think it actually has enough entropy quanta to use the demon or BE properly, though, so people probably never got to see those. I'd have left the deck up longer to see how far it would get, but I spun a golden nymph today, so naturally I want to use the opportunity to build with that many time nymphs, as it is not something I can normally do.
Post by: Marsu on February 12, 2013, 01:56:04 pm
Searching your new avatar on google now btw.
/e: Nevermind, zooming in helped. :p
The old one seemed more epic.
Post by: dragonsdemesne on February 12, 2013, 05:26:54 pm
For the avatar, it's Mana Drain from M:tG, arguably the best counterspell in the game, with the possible exception of Force of Will. I figure what I'll do from this point on is to change my avatar to a new card whenever I spin a nymph, which is why I changed it today.
Post by: dragonsdemesne on February 14, 2013, 12:46:11 am
Oracle Card: GOLDEN NYMPH
wins: 8 losses: 4 rank: >500 Rating: -110 age: 1
thumbs ups: 2/8
(http://img6.imageshack.us/img6/9048/egoldennymph.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/6/egoldennymph.jpg/)
So... apparently top tier BL decks do not translate well to platinum arena :p My BL deck was the unupped version of this with -4 nymph -1 pharaoh -3 pillar/pend. I might mod my BL deck now that I have that second nymph, though... :) Also, as was pointed out to me in league play one day, the entire deck is rares! So it's kind of creative in that respect... I was tempted to create a deck compilation of rares-only decks and see how many I could make that were still good; maybe I'll do that someday.
Today's card is Titan. I kinda want to do catatitans but that's so... obvious :p Maybe I can think of a way to put a twist on it somehow...
edit: to include thumbs up total
Post by: xViperx9091 on February 15, 2013, 02:55:04 am
Post by: kimham8a on February 16, 2013, 12:05:07 am
So What Kind Of Deck Are you Thinking Using This Deck against like pvp1? ai4? silver?
These are his arena decks.
Post by: dragonsdemesne on February 16, 2013, 07:18:08 pm
Oracle Card: TITAN
wins: 12 losses: 5 rank: >500 Rating: -74 age: 3
4/12 thumbs ups
(http://img845.imageshack.us/img845/5222/etitan.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/845/etitan.jpg/)
Hadn't seen crusader titan in the arena before, and figured it would stomp the rol/sop/hope deck that people said in chat is really popular these days. It should also beat poison dials as well, which is still one of the strongest decks vs arena right now. Apparently enough people are using something else (or the 60 card deck gave enough bad draws!) that this isn't the case. Plat's getting ridiculously full if -74 rating drops you out though :p Alas...
Today's card is lava golem. I want to try an immorush based on a discussion I had in chat with another player. Seems it's doing fairly good lately, according to that person.
Post by: dragonsdemesne on February 17, 2013, 07:21:04 am
Oracle Card: LAVA GOLEM
wins: 3 losses: 3 rank: >500 Rating: -94 age: 1
2/3 thumbs up
(http://img855.imageshack.us/img855/5250/elavagolem.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/855/elavagolem.jpg/)
Well... I guess immorush just doesn't cut it anymore. That, or I can't build one :p I did have one back in the day that was a #2 deck, but the game has changed quite a bit with the shards since then. Immorush used to be -everywhere- in plat, but now it's quite rare, which is probably how it got 2/3 thumbs ups.
Today's card is water pendulum. Lots of possibilities... I like it :) I might either do a monowater rush, or maybe a water/fire bolt deck, or water stall, or who knows... lots of things to do!
Post by: Laxadarap on February 17, 2013, 12:19:34 pm
Post by: dragonsdemesne on February 17, 2013, 05:47:28 pm
Oracle Card: WATER PENDULUM
wins: 1 losses: 3 rank: 902 (:p) Rating: -114 age: 0
0/1 thumbs up
(http://img703.imageshack.us/img703/5615/ewpend.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/703/ewpend.jpg/)
Big fat monowater fail! :) Fun deck, but no real practicality. I suspect AI fail with nymph's tears was part of the problem; AI tends not to play more than one on its water towers for whatever stupid reason. At least I finally got to use desiccation for something!
Due to the quickness with which this deck failed, I'll have to wait until tomorrow to know what the next card is.
edit: Got Ice Bolt, so I'm going to do that water/fire bolt deck I mentioned as a possibility when I got the pendulum.
edit: Ice bolt deck is 76-14 and is at 1hp now... It shouldn't be possible for it to win any games, but we'll see I guess... :p
Post by: dragonsdemesne on February 27, 2013, 12:41:18 am
Oracle Card: ICE BOLT
wins: 76 losses: 18 (14 before going to 1hp) rank: >500 (:p) Rating: -104 age: 8
29/76 thumbs up! (though I should admit that -two- of those were actually myself; I ran into my own deck twice this week! I did lose both times legitimately, i.e. I didn't throw the games, but of course I thumbed them up :p)
(http://img72.imageshack.us/img72/2733/eicebolt.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/72/eicebolt.jpg/)
This is the deck I almost made when I got water pendulum last time... so it worked out just as well that I was able to do it next. I'm quite surprised that the deck did so well, and even more surprised that people gave it a lot of thumbs ups. (36%, not counting my own two thumbs ups) I had the supreme misfortune in one of my two matches against this deck to go up against it with a voodoo universe deck I was goofing off with... I had no way to win, lol. Even so, the AI was still stupid enough to bolt my dolls a couple times, so it wasn't an EM loss :p One of these days I should try making a fire deck with 6 lances, towers, and maybe a few SoB/fahrens, and nothing else, and see how that does.
Today's card is arsenic. I know I've had that one several times before, so I'll have to review what I did. The first thing that occurs to me to try is an eclipse/flying arsenic deck, so I'll take a look at my history and see if I've done that. If not... maybe something really weird like a gravity duo.
Post by: dragonsdemesne on March 01, 2013, 05:44:12 am
Oracle Card: ARSENIC
wins: 19 losses: 7
thumbs ups: 7/19
(http://img59.imageshack.us/img59/5635/earsenic.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/59/earsenic.jpg/)
As I mentioned above, I decided on flying arsenic eclipse to base the deck around. I figured there would be a lot of spare death quanta, so bloodsuckers seemed a logical choice, plus they're fairly well-costed hitters, particularly with eclipse out. Pests seemed a good fit as well, to slow the opponent down while arsenic does its work, plus they provide more damage with eclipse as well. I thought I remembered sneaking a few siphon lifes in here for all the pest quanta, but I must have either forgotten to add them, or cut them for some reason. I think I might've been worried the healing would conflict with shard of sacrifice, and I was worried the deck couldn't compete without SoSas.
Today's card is momentum. I've got a neat idea for this one that I don't think has been done before. It's certainly one I haven't seen before.
Post by: dragonsdemesne on March 06, 2013, 01:55:34 pm
Oracle Card: MOMENTUM
wins: 41 losses: 8 rank: 123 Rating: 37 age: 6
20/41 thumbs ups (Nearly half... that's awesome! Didn't realize it was that high until I just calculated it)
(http://img145.imageshack.us/img145/1227/emomentum.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/145/emomentum.jpg/)
Well, I'm surprised that this one got so many thumbs ups, even though I can't recall seeing very many decks like it before. It managed to get nearly 50% thumbs ups even while using three shards of focus, so that's quite impressive, and I'd consider this deck a resounding success in terms of uniqueness. It also did quite a bit better than I thought it would, but I suppose that it is an extremely simple deck for the AI to play, as all it has to do are drop dragons, buff them, and wait until it needs to miracle. Pretty much the only choice it ever needs to make is between buffing a dragon or a shard of focus with overdrive/momentum.
After all that, you might wonder why I'm taking the deck down early, but it's because I spun Blessing, which is an oracle card that I have never used yet, so I figured I could do something new with that. I'd been thinking something like blessed lobo crusader with TU when I first saw it... I'll try to think of something even more interesting, but I'll go with that or something similar if I can't.
Post by: dragonsdemesne on March 07, 2013, 01:53:59 pm
Oracle Card: BLESSING
wins: 9 losses: 4 rank: >500 Rating: -108 age: 1
4/9 thumbs up
(http://img833.imageshack.us/img833/5442/eblessing.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/833/eblessing.jpg/)
Flying blessed TU lobosader! AI doesn't seem to know that it should bless the weapon first so that it can endow a better weapon onto the crusaders, but it will at least TU the biggest thing on the field. I added the silences in an attempt to beat SoSa and/or miracle decks; I know the AI will just spam them as soon as it gets them, rather than timing it right, but pure chance should've helped it topdeck silence occasionally when needed. In the one test game I played, that's exactly what happened; it topdecked a silence and I couldn't play my sosa and I lost as a result with pdials.
Today's card is permafrost shield. I really don't like making decks around shields like that, because 10 shields is way too many for nearly all of them. I'll try to find something interesting I can do, but if I can't, I'll throw up a farm.
Post by: dragonsdemesne on March 08, 2013, 07:13:45 am
Oracle Card: ICE SHIELD
wins: 2 losses: 3 rank: >500 Rating: -112 age: 1
0/2 thumbs up
(http://img10.imageshack.us/img10/8683/eiceshield.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/10/eiceshield.jpg/)
Yeah... it's pretty bad :p Patient wardens in an oversized deck to dilute the shields and use a bunch of other fun stuff. It flopped...
Today's card is druid staff. Weapons can be tricky to do as well, for the same reason as shields, but at least there are things like animate weapon or crusader for weapons. Still, that means the deck can't be particularly creative, as everyone will know what to expect... I'm half tempted to make adrenastaves with shard of sacrifice, just so that someone will laugh their ass off when the AI casts SoSa and the adrenastaves kill it :p But no... I'll try to make something that can win. It'll probably be adrenastaves with something or other off the mark to make it a little more interesting...
Post by: dragonsdemesne on March 10, 2013, 03:47:43 am
Oracle Card: DRUIDIC STAFF
wins: 6 losses: 4 rank: >500 Rating: -112 age: 1
4/6 thumbs ups
(http://img233.imageshack.us/img233/1083/edruid.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/233/edruid.jpg/)
I thought this deck was really cool, and so did a bunch of you :) I actually built a very similar deck today and played around with it against lower arena decks and in pvp2, and it's a lot of fun to use. Sometimes you're playing with quinted adrenastaves stacked with SoW (one SoW gives the adrenaline sweet spot of 8 on a jade staff), sometimes you TU a bunch of unquinted buffed adrenastaves, and sometimes you TU your opponents stuff and buff it. In the nonarena version I made, I dropped the silences and used 6x staff/AW, a bit more quanta, and some jade shields. The jade shields also let me pull the trick of quint/SoW on the opponent's creatures. I excluded this from the arena deck because the AI never makes that move. I did find with my version that the nymphs were too expensive to really use, so using the appropriate alchemy cards and more quanta would be a better choice.
Today's card is chrysaora. Great card, and I could easily get a top tier deck with that, but I want to figure out something somewhat creative with it. I've done the standard sosa physalia a couple times, and I did fractal physalia/SoP one time, too. I think I'll maybe try to make an interesting trio, like using shard of void or something.
Post by: dragonsdemesne on March 15, 2013, 11:44:51 pm
Oracle Card: CHRYSAORA
wins: 56 losses: 12 rank: >500 Rating: -85 age: 6
thumbs up = 15/56
(http://img832.imageshack.us/img832/6580/echrysaora.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/832/echrysaora.jpg/)
Wow, this really fell hard today. It was in the top 25 yesterday. (just barely) I think it must've lost about six times while I was at work. I was hoping my attempt at a trio would increase the number of thumbs ups for a hated card like chrysaora, but it didn't seem to have helped; my lower thumbed decks are usually getting about this sort of ratio.
Today's card is bone dragon. That's another one that lends itself to the hated monodeath SoSa rush, but I will mercifully find something else to do with it. I want to get #1 with a cool new deck, not the same old crap. With mummy I did a luciferin/skeleton/hope deck, and I have done a fractal ball lightning/soulcatcher/vulture deck before that is similar to what could be done with bone dragon. I've also done immosoulcatcher using large fire and death creatures, so that's out. I've also done darkness duos using eclipse and steal, so that's out. It's getting harder and harder to find interesting new decks that won't just lose as soon as I post them. I'll take a look and see what I can find, though. If nothing else, I'll pick a weird duo or trio choice and just improvise.
(edit: copy/paste fail; I had 200hp, not 0hp :p )
Post by: dragonsdemesne on March 17, 2013, 02:10:51 pm
Oracle Card: BONE DRAGON
wins: 8 losses: 4 rank: >500 Rating: -100 age: 2
thumbs: 2/8
(http://img202.imageshack.us/img202/2505/ebonedragon.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/202/ebonedragon.jpg/)
Not knowing what to do with a card like bone dragon that hadn't been done a million times over, I went with this rather unique but subpar deck. It uses quite a few cards that I normally never use, so it felt to me like it should've gotten a higher thumbs up rating. I am surprised it won as many games as it did; it looks to me like it would be really bad.
Today's card is reflective shield. Not a good card to have at all. I'm not sure if I've done it before, but I'm going to make an entropy/light stall. (probably have done it before) Since that isn't particularly unique in and of itself, I will make it a trio, perhaps with earth for stoneskin or something.
Post by: dragonsdemesne on March 19, 2013, 02:03:55 am
Oracle Card: REFLECTIVE SHIELD
wins: 10 losses: 4 rank: >500 Rating: -87 age: 1
thumbs: 3/10
(http://img46.imageshack.us/img46/6321/ereflective.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/46/ereflective.jpg/)
Well, this deck got about nine more wins than I thought it would :p I'm surprised a trio didn't get more thumbs ups, though. I guess something about it just pissed too many people off; maybe all the 500hp miracles or something? :p Also, purple nymph tends to be one of those cards that destroys newbie decks but isn't that good against most stronger decks, so it might've annoyed newer players.
Today's card is fog shield. How I'm supposed to figure out something to do with another shield, I don't know... why do I keep getting silly oracle cards? Tomorrow should be a nymph :p I haven't had a nymph in a long time. I think the last one I got was a time nymph about two months ago, but I'd have to check. Ah, well, if I can make a deck with mirror shield, surely I can do it with fog shield?
Post by: dragonsdemesne on March 19, 2013, 12:45:09 pm
Oracle Card: FOG SHIELD
wins: 0 losses: 2 rank: >500 Rating: -80 age: 1
thumbs 0/0
(http://img811.imageshack.us/img811/6467/efog.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/811/efog.jpg/)
I didn't expect anything at all from this deck; I made it just for fun :) And it delivered exactly what I thought it would! The biggest shock was actually that platinum is now so full that 2 losses is enough to drive a deck out. We almost need either to expand the different arena leagues from 500 up higher, or else to divide the 80 levels into 5 leagues.
Today's card is purify. I'm so happy I didn't get another shield :) There should be quite a few different good possibilities with this one, and I'll see what I can come up with.
Post by: TribalTrouble on March 19, 2013, 08:42:05 pm
Post by: dragonsdemesne on March 22, 2013, 12:42:43 pm
Oracle Card: PURIFY
wins: 13 losses: 5 rank: >500 Rating: -114 age: 3
thumbs: 2/13 (this deserved more!)
(http://img16.imageshack.us/img16/4702/epurify.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/16/epurify.jpg/)
First of all, on the thumbs up ratio... WTF? :p I thought this was one of my more creative decks in awhile, and I was expecting it to get a lot of thumbs. I don't get people... :)
Anyway, my thought process was basically to try and replicate a firestall deck as closely as possible in play style without actually using fire. Consequently, I used lots of bolts and lots of healing as the core. You can almost see the direct replacements... vampires instead of sancs, daggers instead of fahrens, purifies instead of sancs, ice lances and siphon lifes instead of fire lances, steals instead of explosions, permafrost instead of fire shield. (though that last one's not really a direct replacement...) I then added pests for more quanta gain and a bit of denial to keep the deck alive in the early game, and then with 6 pests and 6 vampires, shard of patience seemed like a pretty darned good addition as well, so I added a couple of those. I made sure to use lots of extra quanta (24 pends and 6 pests) to help fuel all the siphons and lances.
Today's card is Owl's Eye. I'll check if I've used that one before; I'm not sure yet. I might do a duo with death using bone walls, graveyards and such, or I might copy one of my BL decks; I have one that uses Owl's Eye as the core card. It'll depend on what my search history turns up.
Post by: TribalTrouble on March 22, 2013, 07:12:14 pm
Post by: dragonsdemesne on March 23, 2013, 07:15:23 am
Oracle Card: OWL'S EYE
wins: 5 losses: 3 rank: >500 Rating: -90 age: 1
thumbs: 0/5 (though since I virtually copy/pasted a BL deck, this doesn't surprise me)
(http://img194.imageshack.us/img194/5681/eoej.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/194/eoej.jpg/)
I didn't think this one would do too well... and I was right :p Not too much to say about it here. I'll post my BL deck that I based it on, though...
Today's card is shockwave. I'm going to do a duo with water and use everything that freezes stuff :p I want to see things explode! Especially weapons... I've only ever once seen a shockwaved frozen weapon. (it was in a tourney, too!)
Post by: dragonsdemesne on March 25, 2013, 11:33:21 pm
Oracle Card: SHOCKWAVE
wins: 22 losses: 7 rank: >500 Rating: -100 age: 2
thumbs: 8/22
(http://img600.imageshack.us/img600/9277/eshockwave.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/600/eshockwave.jpg/)
I made this deck with one thing in mind, which was instagibbing as many things with shockwave as possible, including, and most hopefully, people's weapons. It was intended to be silly, but after a 9-0 start, I thought maybe I somehow had a winner on my hands :p Turns out it must've just had a lucky streak. (or an unlucky one later) I was initially expecting a few more thumbs ups, but on more careful reflection, I think the deck looks too much like FG: Neptune for most people to think that it's creative, and they have no way of knowing I didn't even think of Neptune when I made the deck.
Today's card is voodoo doll. I know I did red nymph dolls one other time, either when I spun a doll or a nymph, not sure which. Unfortunately, there isn't a lot of creativity possible with voodoo dolls, and the rage pot/nymph thing being the most obvious one and having already been done means I can't repeat that. The next most obvious deck is probably overdriven dolls, which I could also do. However, I have a much more amusing idea... Speedbow voodoo dolls! I'll use entropy mark, supernovae, dolls, and lots of support cards; rage pots, overdrives, adrenaline, gravity pull, and so on. Depending on what I come up with, it might become a PSNbow rather than a speedbow, but we'll see. It doesn't have a hope in hell of winning, but if it does win any games, it sure as heck better get thumbs ups!
Post by: TribalTrouble on March 26, 2013, 12:37:45 am
Post by: dragonsdemesne on March 26, 2013, 11:29:56 pm
Oracle Card: VOODOO DOLL
wins: 5 losses: 4 rank: >500 Rating: -112 age: 1
thumbs: 3/5
(http://img687.imageshack.us/img687/9205/evdoll.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/687/evdoll.jpg/)
Even though this deck only lasted a day, in terms of creativity I'd call it a success. With an incredibly silly idea, it managed to get just over 50% wins and thumbs ups. I tried to make as many of the cards as possibly synergize with the voodoo dolls, or at least work somewhat with them, and I tried to use something from every element. Dry spells hurt your own dolls, purifies to heal overdrive, elixir and gravity force damage, butterfly effect is playable on dolls and uses spare mark quanta, bone wall because I couldn't think of any other death card, gravity force and overdrive are excellent on dolls, epinephrine for overdriven dolls, elixirs for CC and dolls, archangel for healing dolls in the same way as purify, unstable gas because I couldn't really think of any other air card to synergize (does 1 damage to dolls), hourglass to help draw the combo, and twin universe on buffed dolls is awesome, especially if they've taken a bunch of damage already. In playtesting, it beat my pdials deck 2 or 3 times, usually ending with 2 or 3 gigantic dolls; one of them ended with three dolls in the 30 attack range. I was so proud... :)
Today's card is golden hourglass. There are a lot of possibilities with that one, both boring and creative, so I'll try and plan something suitably awesome like this deck was. (at least, in my opinion!)
Post by: dragonsdemesne on March 27, 2013, 11:39:07 pm
Oracle Card: GOLDEN HOURGLASS
wins: 2 losses: 3 rank: >500 Rating: -108 age: 1
thumbs: 1/2
(http://img692.imageshack.us/img692/6308/ehourglass.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/692/ehourglass.jpg/)
When in doubt for creativity... make a trio :p Card advantage, poison, and stall. Seems in theory like it would be a winner, but I didn't bother to quanta balance it, which may have resulted in problems. I tested one game against it where it had all pendulums, and the light quanta was flooded, so I took out 2 of each pendulum and added time towers, as that was what the AI lacked in that one test game. Ah, well... they can't all be winners :p I thought it would get a bit further than this, though.
Today's card is bone dragon. I've had that one before a few times, and the last time I made a mitosis deck, so the creativity well is getting really, really dry on this card. I might just say screw it and make a really mean deck without regards to creativity this time... we'll see. Or maybe I'll figure out something brilliant!
Post by: TribalTrouble on March 28, 2013, 12:04:42 am
Post by: dragonsdemesne on March 28, 2013, 01:06:18 am
Post by: TribalTrouble on March 28, 2013, 01:48:40 am
Post by: dragonsdemesne on April 04, 2013, 12:54:13 pm
Oracle Card: BONE DRAGON
wins: 59 losses: 16 rank: >500 Rating: -94 age: 8 (highest rank I saw was about 30)
thumbs up: 19/59
(http://img706.imageshack.us/img706/2505/ebonedragon.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/706/ebonedragon.jpg/)
I did do a somewhat similar deck to this when I spun light nymph, but it was much heavier on light due to the nymphs and didn't use dragons, so I went with the concept again. It did far better as a (mostly) mono, as you can see. Any deck containing 6 elite skeletons and 6 luciferases that makes it the full 8 days is a success in my books. I had thought about adding shards of sacrifice for some more stalling power, but then I realized that the AI would most likely not play luciferase while SoSa was active, and that would mean no Hope could be played, and that would harm the deck quite badly, turning it into basically a monodeath with 10 dead cards :p The deck was still winning games on day 7, but it didn't get any on day 8.
Today's card is forest spirit. There's a few things I can do with that. I remember seeing a neat BL deck by one of my opponents using forest spirit and toadfish in a pendulum novabow (I forget who, and I probably shouldn't say if I remember, as BL is still going) but any of the BL decks I've tried to transfer to the arena so far have bombed :p I know I've had this card a few times in the past, so I'll also have to check what I've already done.
Post by: dragonsdemesne on April 06, 2013, 11:27:34 pm
Oracle Card: FOREST SPIRIT
wins: 27 losses: 7 rank: >500 Rating: -95 age: 2
thumbs: 10/27
(http://img4.imageshack.us/img4/6277/eforestspirit.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/4/eforestspirit.jpg/)
As I mentioned, I borrowed this idea from a deck one of my BL opponents used against me. I don't know how much of it was similar to what he had, but his deck was a forest spirit/toadfish psnbow that was really fun to play against because it was quite unique in BL. I can't remember how much of anything else in the deck was similar to what he had, but it seemed to fit together. The deck after its first day was 14-0, and I was very surprised, but it seems to have cooled off quite a bit after that. I think that the 14 game streak was an anomaly, and I don't see it winning against some of today's common arena farmes like fractal RoL/hope SoP, or Poison Dials, or Swallow. Still, I think it's a cool deck regardless.
Today's card is fractal. I've had that a few times before, but it's really hard to make a fractal deck that the AI can play. I saw one a couple days ago in the arena using fractal that I thought was quite innovative, as well as very successful. I gave it a thumbs up, and I only do that for like 1% of the decks I face. I'll probably either copy it almost verbatim, or else find something in similar theme. It was fractal damselflies with SoFr, and only used aether towers for quanta. Similar decks to that would be things like brimstone eater fractal, or gnome gemfinder fractal. RoL fractal obviously exists as well, but due to hope that deck is overdone, so I'll be doing one of the others. I know in the past I've done fractal physalia and fractal ball lightning/death effects, so I'll be checking my history as well.
Post by: TribalTrouble on April 07, 2013, 12:44:14 am
Post by: dragonsdemesne on April 07, 2013, 04:50:58 am
Post by: TribalTrouble on April 07, 2013, 10:55:10 am
Post by: dragonsdemesne on April 09, 2013, 11:48:45 pm
Oracle Card: FRACTAL
wins: 19 losses: 6 rank: >500 Rating: -78 age: 3
thumbs up: 9/19 (almost half!)
(http://img189.imageshack.us/img189/2316/efractal.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/189/efractal.jpg/)
After day 1, this deck was 8-0... I seem to have that happen to me a lot, where a deck starts out with a flawless record on the first day, and then takes a dive. It's not the hp, since 8hp out of 200 is insignificant in the majority of the games. Anyway, I took fractal damselfly/SoFr deck I saw in the arena and added silences and shards of bravery. The shards gave the deck that extra draw power to help ensure the combo works, and the silences help ensure that it is protected long enough to do some good. There is also the rather handy synergy of giving someone extra cards, and then denying their ability to play them. The one antisynergy is that while denying the player the ability to play the cards drawn with SoB is good, once their hand is full, future SoBs are much weaker. Hopefully the deck has won by the time that starts to happen.
Anyway, today's card is mutation. I think I've had that one a few times before. Not sure what I'll do yet, but it will definitely be something silly. Maybe pandebonium with boneyards and mutations, so that the deck will kill stuff and then mutate the resultant skeletons? Maybe something even cooler?
Post by: dragonsdemesne on April 11, 2013, 02:01:21 am
Oracle Card: MUTATION
wins: 6 losses: 3 rank: >500 Rating: -80 age: 1
thumbs up: 2/6
(http://img708.imageshack.us/img708/5194/emutation.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/708/emutation.jpg/)
I assumed that the AI would mutate brimstone eaters... but I never actually tested this :p I made the assumption based on the fact that the AI will cremate them for sure, so I figured that would extend to mutation as well, but I have no idea whether it would or not. Also note the sexy lone tower shield and butterfly effect :) I didn't expect too much from this deck; heck, it already did better than I thought it would in terms of wins, though I thought more people would give this a thumbs up.
Today's card is Owl's Eye. I'm pretty sure I've had that one several times; I'll go back and look at what's been done. The first thing that comes to mind is a duo with death using bone walls and maybe graveyards. (if I haven't already done that) Failing that... I'll look for something really odd, maybe pick an element that air rarely duos with, like time or darkness or something.
edit: looks like I've done an air/life SoG stall and a death/entropy/air pandebonium/OE trio, so I'll try one of the oddball duos. (or trios)
Post by: dragonsdemesne on April 13, 2013, 05:29:37 am
Oracle Card: OWL'S EYE
wins: 9 losses: 4 rank: >500 Rating: -110 age: 2
thumbs up: 1/9 (ppl should be shot for this crime...)
(http://img802.imageshack.us/img802/4197/eoev.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/802/eoev.jpg/)
I've never seen this one done before... and it got 1/9 thumbs up. Ridiculous. Ah, well... there's no accounting for taste sometimes :p It would have been better without the time cards at all, but less stylish.
Today's card is darkness pendulum. I have a rather weird idea for this one. I want to somehow mix in pest, shard of patience and trident, and maybe even mitosis/bond or something like that. A trio or quad has to be worth something...
Post by: dragonsdemesne on April 14, 2013, 04:26:45 am
Oracle Card: DARK PENDULUM
wins: 6 losses: 3 rank: >500 Rating: -90 age: 1
thumbs up: 0/6 (....)
(http://img255.imageshack.us/img255/4105/edarkpend.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/255/edarkpend.jpg/)
I guess people -really- hate pests... I've never had too much trouble against them in the arena, but I often play rainbow decks, and pests are less effective against them. If I'm farming arena, which is rare these days, I'll often use poison dials, and that gets owned by pests. Even as a quad element deck, it still didn't manage to get any thumbs up... It's really too bad; there are SO many synergies here... I mean, like everything works so well with everything else; this deck is a work of art! :p And nobody appreciates art in its own time, I suppose.
Today's card is stone dragon. There's a few possibilities with that one. I lost to a stone dragon deck in BL a day or two ago; it was using graboids, stone dragons, and reverse times, and I might borrow that. Or I might try something else... A monoearth stall is possible, but that's a little dull. I'll try looking for an interesting duo and put that up.
Post by: TribalTrouble on April 14, 2013, 04:41:40 am
Post by: dragonsdemesne on April 17, 2013, 12:46:23 pm
Oracle Card: STONE DRAGON
wins: 26 losses: 7 rank: >500 Rating: -105 age: 4
thumbs up: 9/26
(http://img259.imageshack.us/img259/5881/estonedragon.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/259/estonedragon.jpg/)
I haven't seen this deck done before, at least not quite this way. The high hp of the dragons let the nymphs activate on them twice, and the holy flashes let it happen twice more. Lots of quicksands and explosions hopefully slowed the player down long enough for this slow deck to get its cards out. Nymphs provided CC as well later on.
Today's card is flooding. This will be challenging to get any wins :p I can probably do almost anything I want and have people thumb it up with that as my oracle card! :)
Post by: TribalTrouble on April 17, 2013, 12:58:17 pm
Post by: dragonsdemesne on April 17, 2013, 01:25:13 pm
Post by: TribalTrouble on April 17, 2013, 02:59:27 pm
Post by: dragonsdemesne on April 18, 2013, 12:34:44 pm
Oracle Card: FLOODING
wins: 0 losses: 2 rank: >500 Rating: -80 age: 1
(http://img5.imageshack.us/img5/7540/eflooding.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/5/eflooding.jpg/)
I didn't expect anything at all from this deck. One win would have been a victory :p It's far too silly to be practical, but hopefully it would have earned thumbs ups had it somehow won any games.
Today's card is armagio. I don't think I've ever had that card before as my oracle card, so this should be a good opportunity.
Post by: TribalTrouble on April 18, 2013, 01:17:04 pm
Post by: dragonsdemesne on April 20, 2013, 06:40:10 pm
Oracle Card: ARMAGIO
wins: 17 losses: 4 rank: >500 Rating: -82 age: 2
thumbs up: 4/17
(http://img803.imageshack.us/img803/5048/earmagio.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/803/earmagio.jpg/)
I thought I was being a lot more creative than I was, until after the first day, when I had no thumbs up at all, and I realized I had basically independently recreated the 'swallow' deck with armagios :p Ah, well, such is life...
Today's card is voodoo doll. The other time I got that card, I did a speedbow focusing on voodoo doll synergy, and I have also done raging dolls, so I'll have to find something else. I'm not sure what else there is yet... maybe overdriven dolls or something, but that's a pretty common idea as well. I need something more interesting...
Post by: TribalTrouble on April 20, 2013, 06:47:17 pm
Post by: dragonsdemesne on April 20, 2013, 06:56:44 pm
Post by: dragonsdemesne on April 27, 2013, 10:22:43 pm
Oracle Card: VOODOO DOLL
wins: 53 losses: 12 rank: >500 Rating: -100 age: 7
thumbs up: 17/53
(http://img854.imageshack.us/img854/9205/evdoll.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/854/evdoll.jpg/)
Well... not too shabby at all. I tried to do something completely different with voodoo dolls that the AI would still get right. Consequently, I played a heavy denial deck with pests/SoFo/black hole/amber nymph/steal in order to deprive the opponent of any resources whatsoever. The shards of void would take care of weakening the opponent's max hp, and then the finishing blow would either come from an eclipse (on dolls/pests), a trebuchet (on dolls ideally, but SoFo also works) or even the nymphs if HP is drained all the way to 1. I was worried that there might not be enough quanta to power the deck (I wanted to fit in as much other stuff as possible) but it seems to have been sufficient. I was also worried that people might downvote it because of all the hated cards, but it managed roughly a 1/3 rating. (slightly less than) I have noticed a trend towards people giving less and less thumbs ups in recent months, and so while this rate would've been fairly low a year ago, it's not too bad now.
Today's card is morning star. Not sure what I'm going to do on that one, yet, but I was actually thinking some sort of bizarre stall with shard of patience, maybe even shard of freedom.
Post by: dragonsdemesne on April 30, 2013, 12:47:58 pm
Oracle Card: MORNING STAR
wins: 13 losses: 4 rank: >500 Rating: -68 age: 3
thumbs: 4/13 (can't believe this wasn't higher...)
(http://img705.imageshack.us/img705/9364/emorningstar.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/705/emorningstar.jpg/)
Seriously... this deck is so cool, it should have gotten tons of thumbs ups. I've never seen anything like this :p Flying free wise patient morning glories. With shards of the void... yeah, I'm sure that's been done a thousand times before. As to deck design, I didn't include quite as many of the nonlight cards as the novas could power because the animate weapons might take some of the off quanta (and making those into flying weapons takes away from shards of freedom air quanta) so I used one less of everything than the novas could power, except shard of patience, because that one was so important to the deck's strategy, and because only one really needs to be played, anyway.
Today's card is heal. Not sure if I've had that one before; I certainly haven't had it recently, and I don't usually use it in my decks, so I should be able to find something I haven't done before quite easily.
Post by: TribalTrouble on April 30, 2013, 10:11:02 pm
A Heal stall.
^Don't do one of these and I'll give you a thumbs up :P
Post by: dragonsdemesne on May 01, 2013, 12:37:23 pm
Oracle Card: HEAL
wins: 4 losses: 3 rank: >500 Rating: -87 age: 1
thumbs up: 2/4
(http://img594.imageshack.us/img594/5325/eheal.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/594/eheal.jpg/)
I'm not really sure what this deck is supposed to be :p It's some strange mix of catatitans, healing, and denial. I figured it would be fairly unique, and gravity and life is a more unusual duo.
Today's card is schrodinger's cat. Bone walls seem the obvious thing... so I'll do something else. I think I did that once before anyway.
Post by: TribalTrouble on May 01, 2013, 11:22:13 pm
Post by: dragonsdemesne on May 01, 2013, 11:41:56 pm
You do realize that not every deck has to be 60 cards right? :P
Yes... but I can fit more fun and creativity into 60 card decks :)
200hp, 60 wisdom, 2x card draw, 2x mark
Oracle Card: SCHRONDINGER'S CAT
wins: 2 losses: 2 rank: >500 Rating: -70 age: 0
0/2 thumbs ups (seriously...)
(http://img89.imageshack.us/img89/1603/ecat.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/89/ecat.jpg/)
I did not expect this deck to last more than a day or two. However, I was completely surprised by the fact that apparently two of you are so sick of seeing Cat/micro abomination/BE/SoP decks in the arena that you had to thumb them down. Seriously, W T F? This should have gotten 100% thumbs ups from everybody. I guarantee that this deck has NEVER been done before. (and for good reason, but still...) Maybe the 6 purifies I put in there to stop poison decks (as that seemed to be a glaring weakness otherwise) owned a couple poison dial farmers on their last spin or something and they were all pissed off? I mean, come on, how many micros, cats, or butterfly effects do you see in any format anywhere, and how many times do you see them all together at the same time? How many cats do you see without death cards at all? And... how many gigantic 21/23 or whatever patient cats with the destroy ability do you see? Yeah... both those people are on Santa's naughty list, now...
I dunno what my next card is, as the deck failed in less than 24 hours. It better be a nymph, though... I'm getting sick and tired of not getting any; it's been like 3 months, and statistically the average is about 1/month. Although, I will concede that I'm above that average even including my current drought, but that doesn't mean I don't want more of them! Light or Air would be best, given my current collection... :)
Post by: TribalTrouble on May 01, 2013, 11:43:35 pm
Post by: dragonsdemesne on May 04, 2013, 04:26:18 am
Oracle Card: LIFE PENDULUM
wins: 5 losses: 3 rank: >500 Rating: -96 age: 1
thumbs up: 1/5
(http://img844.imageshack.us/img844/3886/elifepend.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/844/elifepend.jpg/)
Nothing really clever here. I went with the poison theme, and added shard of patience/green nymph for some extra synergy (adrenaline helps counteract the SoP stalling) as well as some anti-SoSa farmer ability. I couldn't think of any ideas at the time :p
Today's card is discord. How I'll make something that people will like with that, I don't know yet. I'll try, though...
Post by: dragonsdemesne on May 05, 2013, 06:42:58 pm
Oracle Card: DISCORD
wins: 6 losses: 3 rank: >500 Rating: -84 age: 2
thumbs up: 1/6
(http://img17.imageshack.us/img17/120/ediscord.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/17/ediscord.jpg/)
People just don't like discord :p I tried to make it clever by completely basing it on discord and creature buffs, but even that didn't make people happy :( Ah, well, some cards are just hard to build creatively around. Discord's one of those cards that is so easy to build a killer deck around that whenever people see one they just go into rage mode.
Today's card is bone pillar. That'll give me some flexibility in what I decide to build. It will also probably let me use my new shiny mark of death card that I got from battle league.
Post by: dragonsdemesne on May 09, 2013, 04:19:43 am
Oracle Card: BONE PILLAR
wins: 31 losses: 7 rank: >500 Rating: -91 age: 3
thumbs up: 10/31
(http://img803.imageshack.us/img803/8779/ebonepillar.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/803/ebonepillar.jpg/)
That's actually a lot more thumbs ups than I expected from monodeath rush :p Although, I will concede that's a different version of it than people typically run. I used the cheapest cost cards in order to use as few quanta sources as possible. With only 7 sources plus the triple deck mark, I figured there's actually enough to run the deck, and with 31-7 win rate, it must've been adequate. I think it's very likely that most of the thumbs ups came as a result of using elite skeletons :p
Today's card is hope. That's going to be an ugly one to build around. 10 copies of hope is too many for a decent deck. Also, hope is such a narrow card that it will be extremely hard to come up with something that will get thumbs ups. I will try something interesting... but I don't think it's going to win any games. It should, however, win a lot of thumbs ups if it does somehow win any.
Post by: TribalTrouble on May 10, 2013, 12:01:01 am
Post by: dragonsdemesne on May 10, 2013, 12:44:11 pm
180hp, 60 wisdom, 2x card draw, 3x mark
Oracle Card: HOPE
wins: 3 losses: 3 rank: >500 Rating: -100 age: 2
1/3 thumbs up
(http://img547.imageshack.us/img547/9406/ehope.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/547/ehope.jpg/)
Nova psnbow :) I knew it would suck, but I figured it should get a bunch of thumbs ups if it could win any games. It only managed 1/3 thumbs ups though for some reason...
Today's card is mindgate. That is my favourite card of all time :) I'll try to come up with something extra cool for that! It'll probably have to be some kind of fat rainbow, though, which people don't really like much.
Post by: dragonsdemesne on May 11, 2013, 04:15:53 pm
Oracle Card: MINDGATE
wins: 10 losses: 4 rank: >500 Rating: -90 age: 1
thumbs up: 4/10
(http://img24.imageshack.us/img24/7536/emindgate.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/24/emindgate.jpg/)
Fairly decent thumbs up ratio, which is surprising, as people usually hate large rainbow stalls. I modeled it after one of my top BL decks last season. It got a lot of plays. (compare to the hope deck above, which got 8 less plays with an extra day)
Today's card is toadfish. I've had that one a few times already; I'll try to find something exciting and new with it, but I doubt it's possible.
edit: Hmm, I've had this one a lot. I've done a monowater with SoP/squid, a water duo with forest spectre (and SoSa/SoF in a previous version), a gravity duo with unstoppable and SoF, and I did a psn with forest spectre when the spectre was my card. I'll pick something else...
Post by: TribalTrouble on May 11, 2013, 06:04:15 pm
Post by: dragonsdemesne on May 11, 2013, 06:16:28 pm
Post by: dragonsdemesne on May 14, 2013, 01:03:05 pm
Oracle Card: TOADFISH
wins: 17 losses: 6 rank: >500 Rating: -102 age: 3
thumbs up: 6/17
(http://img267.imageshack.us/img267/2751/etoadfish.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/267/etoadfish.jpg/)
I was hoping the triple aether mark would be enough to power everything; not sure if it was or not, as I didn't test. I thought there might be a surplus of aether so I included 2 fractals to take care of that. SoP and silences would've beat SoSa decks most of the time, and thunderbolts and ulitharids are fairly good against many types of creatures. Permanent-based decks were probably the biggest weakness, as this deck has no PC whatsoever. An early eternity, for example, and this deck is in deep crap. It also may not have had enough damage to overcome fast decks, although the thunderbolts and silences should have helped stall there.
Today's card is precognition. Going to be hard to make something new with that, but I'll try.
Post by: dragonsdemesne on May 16, 2013, 05:33:57 am
Oracle Card: PRECOGNITION
wins: 3 losses: 3 rank: >500 Rating: -105 age: 1
0/3 thumbs up
(http://img46.imageshack.us/img46/5157/eprecog.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/46/eprecog.jpg/)
This deck was an extremely simple idea, but yet I can't recall ever seeing it done in the arena before. Spamming precogs to draw into useful cards and spamming cheap creatures while rewinding everything is a straightforward strategy that even the AI can't screw up. (I think...) I perhaps should have used another tower or two for the life cards, but I don't think it would've made too much difference; 50% win rate isn't that great, and nobody liked the deck anyway.
Today's card is purple nymph. (for those who are counting, I now have ten of those... lol) I've probably spun this card more than most others :p I've skipped building decks around it several times just because I can build a 6 purple nymph deck anytime I want, but I need a new deck anyway, so here goes...
Post by: dragonsdemesne on May 21, 2013, 11:21:16 pm
Oracle Card: PURPLE NYMPH
wins: 35 losses: 10 rank: >500 Rating: -107 age: 6
thumbs up: 14/35
(http://img40.imageshack.us/img40/8872/epurplen.JPG) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/40/epurplen.JPG/)
Well, that's a heck of a good thumbs up rating (40%) and I managed to do it with all those discords, too :p At six days and the best thumbs up ratio I've had in a long time (ignoring decks with like 1-2 wins) I'd say that this was a success in terms of creativity. I'm not sure how optimally the AI played the deck in some cases; I tested against it with a few things, and found that it beats poison dials fairly handily with discords and silences ruining sosa/dial timing, and did fairly poorly against rainbow stall unless it could spam silences early. It was fun to play against, so I tested a few different things against it.
Today's card is ice bolt, which I think I've had a few times before. I am now level 77, so I'll probably be doing all my decks with 185hp and maxing everything else from now on. I also have a mark of darkness that I won from this weekend's tourney, so I have that to mess around with, too. Given my distaste for grinding and the fact that I need 95k score to get to the next level, it will probably be quite some time before I'm 78 :p (it was months and months between 76 and 77)
edit: Apparently I gained level 76 on Nov 12, 2012 (or a few days before that) and I've used ice bolt a few times, but mostly in decks that were fairly weak. I had one that was 76-18, but of course for some reason the image link to that one is dead :p
Post by: TribalTrouble on May 22, 2013, 01:31:04 am
Post by: dragonsdemesne on May 22, 2013, 01:45:01 am
what's with the unupped/upped split of nymphs? o.O
The entropy ones are upped because 1) it was the oracle card and 2) I own 10 entropy nymphs, so I've upped 4 of them. The turquoise ones are one of each because the upped one was my 2nd nymph ever and I upped it before I knew the majority of PvP tourneys were unupped. My red nymph was spared the same fate because back then it cost 4 :fire to activate the upped fire nymph, and so the upped fire nymp wasn't strictly better like the aether one is. (still isn't, for that matter) The only upped nymphs I own are entropy nymphs 7 through 10 and that one aether nymph.
Post by: dragonsdemesne on May 27, 2013, 11:52:38 pm
Oracle Card: ICE BOLT
wins: 35 losses: 9 rank: >500 Rating: -99 age: 6
Thumbs ups: 15/35
(http://img694.imageshack.us/img694/2733/eicebolt.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/694/eicebolt.jpg/)
Well, I was very happy with my last deck's thumbs up ratio (14/35) and this was just that slightly bit even better, so I'm quite happy with the performance. I actually thought this deck was going to suck pretty bad, but it did very well until today. When I went to work this morning, I think it was 32-4 or 32-5. The drop from a -32 to a -64 hp penalty seemed to affect the deck quite badly. I think the reason is because the deck sits there stalling for awhile, bolting whatever needs to die, and then usually rips out a sudden OTK for the win, and losing another 32 hp on day 6 meant that it probably wasn't able to buy enough time for that.
The basic idea when I was planning the deck was just to use all the bolts :p Since fire lances do more damage than the other two, I built the quanta base around having twice as much fire as the other two; that lent to the logical inclusion of fahrenheits. After that, I still had some slots, so I used purifies to beat poison. I don't think this deck had any problems with SoSa-based decks, because it could simply outwait the SoSa chain, as most of the damage comes from spells, and the myriad of bolts should handle most creature-based decks, but there was no healing besides the incidental healing from siphon life. Then I figured that steals are never a bad thing, so I included a bunch of those, and then to try and balance out water and darkness, I added a couple steam machines. Looking at the pendulum split, I should have actually had something like +2-3 dark pend -2-3 water pend, since slightly more darkness is actually used, yet I have more water pends.
The biggest weaknesses to the deck were probably immortal creatures, 500hp SS/miracle decks, OTKs, and anybody using reflective/emerald shields. The deck probably did as well as it did because none of those things are really common plat grinders (as far as I know) and beats some of the more common archetypes, like pdials, splat, and so on. It probably beats rol/hope as well, even the SoP version, as the steals would be taking those.
Today's card is empathic bond. I'll look at my history and base my decision on that. Not sure what I'll do yet...
Post by: dragonsdemesne on May 29, 2013, 03:49:33 am
Oracle Card: EMPATHIC BOND
wins: 4 losses: 4 rank: >500 Rating: -110 age: 1
thumbs: 1/4
(http://img580.imageshack.us/img580/2463/ebond.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/580/ebond.jpg/)
I thought this deck was absolutely hilarious :p Various mass CC and ball lightning suicide to kill creatures for the bone walls and graveyards, and then bonds to heal with all of the skeletons out. Then, if the AI plays inundation, you can nuke your own skeletons and get loads of bonewall counters :p Or, you can use shard of patience and build up ridiculous skeletons or ball lightnings :p I can't believe it actually won any games, but it's even harder to believe most people didn't thumb it up. I was fully expecting it to go 0-2 and drop out of platinum.
Today's card is dissipation field. That'll be a hard one to work with. Maybe I'll make an unupped 60 card dissipation field stall :p Actually, I got an idea now...
Post by: dragonsdemesne on May 30, 2013, 01:54:40 am
Oracle Card: DISSIPATION SHIELD
wins: 0 losses: 2 rank: >500 Rating: -80 age: 1
(http://img843.imageshack.us/img843/7021/edissshield.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/843/edissshield.jpg/)
It was a pretty stupid idea... :p I'd like to think somebody would've thumbed it up if it had somehow won.
Today's card is drain life. People hate pests so I'll try to find a deck that doesn't use those. It might be tricky to find a deck that both gets thumbs ups and wins with drain life, since people really hate monodark, as the pests and vampires do well against a lot of common arena farmers.
Post by: dragonsdemesne on May 31, 2013, 11:32:41 pm
Oracle Card: DRAIN LIFE
wins: 17 losses: 4 rank: >500 Rating: -90 age: 2
6/17 thumbs ups
(http://img543.imageshack.us/img543/6931/edrainlife.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/543/edrainlife.jpg/)
Hmm... well, I thought I might have had a winner on my hands, as when I went to work it was 12-1 with a decent number of thumbs ups, but it was not to be, it seems. Basically, my goal here was to make a deck with as much healing as possible, yet still have some decent damage dealing capability. Hopefully it was an enjoyable deck to face. I designed something vaguely similar for one of the world championship rounds, but I never had a good opportunity to use it.
Today's card is golden dragon. I don't think I've actually built a deck around that one before. I'll try to be clever. Maybe I'll use my red nymphs with it, or find something else unusual. I think there's quite a few interesting possibilities with this one. I actually like the red nymph idea... might stick with that.
Post by: dragonsdemesne on June 02, 2013, 02:39:35 pm
Oracle Card: GOLDEN DRAGON
wins: 12 losses: 4 rank: >500 Rating: -95 age: 2
4/12 thumbs up
(http://img507.imageshack.us/img507/2962/egoldendragon.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/507/egoldendragon.jpg/)
Well, I did indeed go with the red nymphs. Light dragons can survive two activations each. I threw in the brimstone eaters and rays of light as additional attackers/quanta that also let me use cremations so that I could splash purifies (SoSa would eat this deck alive) and a fog. A few fire lances and fahrenheits were also added, although I'm not sure if there was really all that much extra fire quanta laying around; I kind of doubt it, but I did it anyway.
Today's card was also golden dragon, so I have to wait until tomorrow to put a new deck up.
Post by: TribalTrouble on June 03, 2013, 10:15:36 am
Post by: dragonsdemesne on June 04, 2013, 01:01:37 pm
Oracle Card: HOLY LIGHT
wins: 10 losses: 4 rank: 438 Rating: -61 age: 1
thumbs up: 5/10
(http://img593.imageshack.us/img593/8596/eholylight.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/593/eholylight.jpg/)
Pretty darned good thumbs up ratio on this one, but since I'm going to work soon, and I don't think this will last the day, I'm going to replace it. I used the fairly nice synergy between red nymphs and steam machines, as well as another nice synergy between red nymph and shard of patience. The holy flash also works nicely with red nymph, and using brimstone eaters for quanta gives me more things to grow with shard of patience, just as I did with the previous deck. The queens give me even more red nymphs to play with. It was 7-1 before I went to bed, but then it took a bunch of losses.
Today's card is butterfly effect. That's another reason I wanted to take the deck down early; that's a rarely used card, and I'm hoping I can build something clever with it.
Post by: dragonsdemesne on June 05, 2013, 12:11:59 am
Oracle Card: BUTTERFLY EFFECT
wins: 1 losses: 3 rank: >500 Rating: -112 age: 0
1/1 thumbs up
(http://img5.imageshack.us/img5/6695/ebeu.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/5/ebeu.jpg/)
I thought this was a brilliant idea, though I knew it would probably be lucky to last a day. At least someone agreed with me :p The scarabs were deliberately unupped so that butterfly effect can be played on them. I probably shouldn't have used the deja vus, but originally I'd been going to add a lucihope component to the deck, but I ran out of room :p
No new card yet, as the deck is less than 1 day old.
edit: because nobody cares what's on my desktop in the old image (and probably nobody cares about my deck, either, but my desktop even less :p)
Post by: TribalTrouble on June 05, 2013, 12:35:26 am
That deck is just.... who thought that was a good idea? XD
Post by: dragonsdemesne on June 05, 2013, 01:11:50 am
Post by: dragonsdemesne on June 07, 2013, 01:20:16 pm
Oracle Card: IMMORTAL
wins: 15 losses: 5 rank: >500 Rating: -108 age: 2
7/15 thumbs up
(http://img211.imageshack.us/img211/4706/eimmortal.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/211/eimmortal.jpg/)
I'm a bit surprised this got almost 50% thumbs up. Maybe it's because nobody else was creative/stupid enough to use siphon life solely off of a triple mark :p I did that because I knew I wanted to use shard of void, but that there would be a lot more darkness quanta floating around if I used a darkness mark. Plus, I wanted some sort of spell in case there was a situation where the player was at 1hp from shards but had some sort of defense against the immortals. In practice, however, now that I think on it, that probably never happened. The best defense against SoW immortals is a reflective shield, and that blocks siphon life as well.
Today's card is pulverizer. I've had that one a few times, so I'll probably end up doing something incredibly weak that won't win any games :p That, or I'll end up doing something everyone hates, but I'll try to avoid that as well.
Post by: dragonsdemesne on June 10, 2013, 12:37:06 pm
Oracle Card: PULVERIZER
wins: 21 losses: 8 rank: >500 Rating: -94 age: 3
(http://img571.imageshack.us/img571/6379/epulverizer.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/571/epulverizer.jpg/)
8/21 thumbs up
Sorry... I couldn't think of much to do with pulverizer, so I built this as a kind of baseline test; I figured only the people that thumbs up everything would thumb up something like this. Lately my decks have been getting more thumbs ups than usual, so I figured this was a good chance to see whether people are really giving more thumbs ups or not. Of course, the sample size is really too small to get an accurate feel for such things, but as a rough guess it's not bad.
Today's card is entropy pendulum, giving me lots of options, and I promise to do something more creative than this one...
Post by: TribalTrouble on June 10, 2013, 08:50:32 pm
Post by: dragonsdemesne on June 11, 2013, 12:45:33 pm
Oracle Card: ENTROPY PENDULUM
wins: 3 losses: 3 rank: >500 Rating: -83 age: 1
2/3 thumbs up
(http://img580.imageshack.us/img580/9896/eepend.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/580/eepend.jpg/)
This was based on a BL deck I tried out this season, but probably won't use again. (I kept bottomdecking the SoP... :p) I in turn stole the basic idea from somebody else in BL, with the main addition that I made being the pests. The idea was to get as much synergy between SoP and the creatures as possible.
Today's card is crimson dragon. I'm thinking I might just try a simple dragon/sky blitz rush and see how that goes. Interestingly, it's not something I can recall seeing much outside of monoair.
Post by: dragonsdemesne on June 13, 2013, 12:46:06 pm
Oracle Card: CRIMSON DRAGON
wins: 9 losses: 4 rank: >500 Rating: -110 age: 2
3/9 thumbs up
(http://img841.imageshack.us/img841/1695/ecdragon.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/841/ecdragon.jpg/)
I hadn't seen this done in arena recently, so I thought I'd give it a try. Not really too much to say about it; it's a very simple rush, very quick and painful when it works, but very bad when it doesn't.
Today's card is quintessence. Not sure what I'll do with that, yet, but we'll see... maybe some sort of quinted nymph deck?
Post by: TribalTrouble on June 14, 2013, 12:24:04 am
Also, I would've had unupped Phoenixes instead of Seraph myself. I like it, although I might've also added a Fog Shield. Nice job!
How many Burning Towers do you have...
Post by: dragonsdemesne on June 14, 2013, 01:20:10 am
Phoenixes definitely make sense in place of Seraph, as it would ease the rather severe quanta strain on all those big fire creatures. The fog does make sense, but as I was going for a pure rush, I didn't even look at any defensive cards for that deck.
I have 30 of each of the upped towers and pendulums, plus one or two more in some elements from FG/halfblood spins. (I've got all the buyable cards) I figured it would be very unlikely to ever need more than that for anything, and I've got lots of electrum if I ever change my mind, so I stopped upgrading any more at that point, and 30 was a nice round number.
Post by: dragonsdemesne on June 21, 2013, 12:55:52 pm
Oracle Card: QUINTESSENCE
wins: 44 losses: 10 rank: 448 Rating: -73 age: 8
13/44 thumbs up
(http://img822.imageshack.us/img822/6355/yl2q.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/822/yl2q.jpg/)
A surprisingly simple and effective deck, yet one that I cannot recall seeing before. It got a bunch of its losses on the 7th day, and there's no point leaving it up at 1hp for the day, as one game will knock it out, so I'll make a new deck and get more plays with it instead. This deck isn't as fast as something like chaos wyrms, but it is CC resistant with quints, and even without shards of freedom it can bypass shields. I added the silences because pdials completely owns monoair (I've played enough pdials to know monoair rush is basically a free win for pdials) so I threw those in to disrupt sosa chains, or miracles, or whatever the player might be doing.
Today's card is fate egg. I know I've had that one a few times before. I did a SoR-PU deck the last time I think, and I did a giant denial rainbow another time, but I'll try to find something extra special and unique for such a cool card.
Post by: dragonsdemesne on June 22, 2013, 08:28:38 pm
Oracle Card: FATE EGG
wins: 4 losses: 3 rank: >500 Rating: -100 age: 1
0/4 thumbs up
(http://img46.imageshack.us/img46/4203/d9r3.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/46/d9r3.jpg/)
Nobody liked the randomness of the fate egg deck... or maybe it was the random nuisance cards like quicksand. Ah, well...
Today's card is reflective shield. Because none of you voted for fate eggs, I am punishing you with pdials! :p Well, sort of. I changed it slightly and made it a 60 card version as well, so it is somewhat different, but it's probably still very annoying.
Post by: dragonsdemesne on June 28, 2013, 11:54:42 pm
Oracle Card: REFLECTIVE SHIELD
wins: 37 losses: 12 rank: >500 Rating: -113 age: 6
thumbs up: 13/37 (1337! :D )
(http://img442.imageshack.us/img442/152/xous.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/442/xous.jpg/)
SoSaless pdials! As a result of the lack of light quanta drain from the SoSas, I was able to include lots of miracles and sanctuaries to accomplish much the same thing, only with a different quanta base. Nothing particularly exciting, but hopefully some players were caught unawares by the fact that I didn't have any shards of sacrifice in the deck, and were needlessly restricting their own damage to play around something I wasn't even using. It did quite a bit better than I thought it would, given the lack of SoSas and the large size of the deck. (I did the 60 card thing as an attempt to dilute the extra copies of mirror shield, which is my typical strategy when getting a subpar oracle card like that or chimera or something) It also somehow earned over a third thumbs ups, which is bizarre considering the previous fate egg deck had 0/4.
Today's card is acceleration. I think I've done SoF acceleration, voodoo acceleration, and some big dragon acceleration things before, but I'll doublecheck my history and try to find something new and exciting to play against :) (edit: apparently the only time I've ever used acceleration I put up a farm, so I can do anything I want!)
Post by: dragonsdemesne on June 29, 2013, 02:25:16 pm
That's the deck I came up with yesterday. Overdriven guards, with some BH/silence to stall for them to build up, and PU for the kill. (hopefully!) It got 0 plays, so no stats for it. I'm making a new deck because I spun turquoise nymph :) Also, as per my tradition, I shall pick a new avatar as I have spun a nymph.
Post by: dragonsdemesne on July 06, 2013, 07:10:19 am
(http://img521.imageshack.us/img521/3271/c6vg.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/521/c6vg.jpg/)
Assuming the deck drops out of plat with 57hp, I'll make another deck with the light nymph at that time.
Post by: dragonsdemesne on July 06, 2013, 10:45:35 pm
Oracle Card: TURQUOISE NYMPH
wins: 50 losses: 14 rank: >500 Rating: -119 age: 7
14/50 thumbs up
(http://img11.imageshack.us/img11/8172/00h3.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/11/00h3.jpg/)
It seems like a lot of my thumbs ups end up equal to the number of losses... I suspect that it's a mathematical artifact of how rating is calculated. If I knew the rating formula I could probably show that... in any event, just something I've noticed a lot, and wanted to mention it's not a mistake on my part :p
I'm not really sure why I built the deck that I did here. I knew that I wanted to try shard of patience with the quinted nymphs, and after that, I guess ulitharids seemed a natural fit. A cheap creature with a strong ability to make use of the extra water quanta. Then I tossed in the phase shields, which seemed to be a good fit with the waiting induced by shard of patience. Phase shield for 3 turns, and while that's up, all the creatures got +6/+6 :p Due to my n00b days, I have that one upped aether nymph, my 2nd nymph ever, so I put that in here as well, just because.
Today's card, as is evidenced above, is light nymph. Oracle has been making up for slacking so hard the last several months. I think the other time I got light nymph I did a hope deck with mummies and skeletons, that was strangely thumbed down, due to the apparent prevalence of luciskeletons... well, whatever. I'll try to come up with something even cleverererererer this time.
Post by: dragonsdemesne on July 07, 2013, 11:05:22 pm
Oracle Card: LIGHT NYMPH
wins: 3 losses: 3 rank: >500 Rating: -103 age: 1
0/3 thumbs up (this one annoys me... :p)
(http://img191.imageshack.us/img191/5664/0ndc.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/191/0ndc.jpg/)
I didn't expect too many wins from this deck, but I expected a lot of thumbs ups. The synergies between all these cards is so good that I thought people would appreciate how cool the deck is, but apparently it was not to be. The light nymphs work nicely with the shards of divinity, healing past max life. The green nymphs give adrenaline to everything, and note that -everything- is at a 'sweet spot' for adrenaline. Light nymph has 7 attack, green nymph has 3 attack, and a crusader endowed with jade staff has 7 attack and regenerate. Bonds/mitosis have obvious synergy, and (unupped) thorn carapace works well with all the healing, eventually killing anything short of momentum or quint/SoW creatures.
Today's card is devourer. I'm hoping that the three people who thumbed this beautiful deck down have to go against my devourer deck :p (since most people seem to hate monodark in the arena) However, I'm not actually going to do monodark; I'll try to come up with something more clever than that. How I am going to do something with devourer that will earn thumbs ups, I have no idea yet, but hopefully I'll find something.
Edit: I have truly outdone myself with this devourer deck :p I'm really hoping this will be the one devourer deck ever that gets thumbs ups. It is a seven element deck that does not use nova, immolation, or quantum tower.
Post by: dragonsdemesne on July 08, 2013, 01:04:57 pm
Oracle Card: DEVOURER
wins: 1 losses: 3 rank: >500 Rating: -114 age: 1
thumbs up: 0/1
(http://img541.imageshack.us/img541/9171/7nck.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/541/7nck.jpg/)
This. Is. A. Work. Of. Art. That. Is. All. (well, that, and the fact that the person who thumbed it down should be truly ashamed of themselves :p )
Today's card is catapult. That's a tough one, and I already used a voodoo doll catapult/denial deck awhile back... maybe I'll just use titans, shards of focus, and amber nymphs and make a pseudofarm :p
Post by: dragonsdemesne on July 09, 2013, 12:47:33 pm
Oracle Card: CATAPULT
wins: 8 losses: 5 rank: >500 Rating: -125 age: 1
3/8 thumbs up
(http://img706.imageshack.us/img706/4331/79zw.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/706/79zw.jpg/)
This wasn't particularly inventive, but seeing as shard of freedom/sky blitz are not normally used with flying overdriven titans, it's hopefully unique enough.
Today's card is entropy pendulum. I'm going to use a variant of a deck treebeard xiii showed me one time which I thought was rather interesting.
Post by: dragonsdemesne on July 10, 2013, 12:45:24 pm
Oracle Card: ENTROPY PENDULUM
wins: 5 losses: 4 rank: >500 Rating: -120 age: 1
0/5 thumbs up
(http://img824.imageshack.us/img824/7656/vcb8.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/824/vcb8.jpg/)
Hmm... I was hoping for more thumbs up from that one. Alas. I'd thought about using unupped rage potions so that they could be put on the dragons if needed, but I didn't really trust the AI to know when to use them for CC and when to use them for attack :p
Today's card is steam machine. That's always been one of my favourite creatures, so I'll try to do something extra cool. I have an interesting idea for it, but it will need at least a trio. Water/fire for the machines, and then a third element for healing, so that the deck can stall until the machines get -really- big :)
Post by: dragonsdemesne on July 12, 2013, 11:39:24 pm
Oracle Card: STEAM MACHINE
wins: 17 losses: 7 rank: >500 Rating: -105 age: 2
5/17 thumbs up
(http://img27.imageshack.us/img27/7338/3lh4.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/27/3lh4.jpg/)
This deck was another victim of the 'but it started off SO WELL...' :p Went something 7-1 on day 0, then something like 7-2 on day 2, and then... splat :p I'd been hoping for more thumbs up than I got, though... I don't remember ever seeing this deck in the arena before. The basic idea was to stall with the healing and bolts until the machines got too big to handle. However, in adding so many lances, I think that people might've felt more like it was a direct damage deck with steam machines and healing added in, rather than a steam machine deck with CC and healing on the side, which may have contributed to the deck getting rated lower than I would have expected.
Today's card is boneyard. I saw a really hilarious death effects deck last week in the arena (using aflatoxin as oracle card) and I am going to try and emulate that as much as possible. I would have thumbed that deck up if I hadn't beaten it :p Hopefully I can find a way to make it more survivable.
Post by: ddevans96 on July 12, 2013, 11:55:48 pm
(http://img541.imageshack.us/img541/9171/7nck.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/541/7nck.jpg/)
10/10, would mod for Trials.
Post by: dragonsdemesne on July 14, 2013, 01:59:54 pm
185hp, 60 wisdom, 2x card draw, 3x mark
Oracle Card: BONEYARD
wins: 2 losses: 3 rank: >500 Rating: -102 age: 2
1/2 thumbs up
(http://img19.imageshack.us/img19/4711/x6g0.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/19/x6g0.jpg/)
This was much like a deck I saw in the arena recently, only that player used air and thunderstorm instead, and had no SoSa that I know of. It didn't do very well... but at least it was cool :p The deck actually dropped out of plat at age 1 instead of 2, but I spun boneyard again when it dropped out, so I couldn't replace it until now. Today's card is lycanthrope.
(edit: because someone at imageshack apparently decided that deck image was inappropriate or something, so they removed it... fortunately, it was still on my desktop, so... reuploaded)
Post by: dragonsdemesne on July 21, 2013, 06:25:05 am
Oracle Card: LYCANTHROPE
wins: 47 losses: 8 rank: 125 Rating: 49 age: 6
10/47 thumbs up
(http://img854.imageshack.us/img854/4298/5fim.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/854/5fim.jpg/)
This deck was fairly successful in terms of win/loss, but a failure in terms of creativity, since it got very few thumbs ups. I just got my own deck in plat arena a few minutes ago, and discovered that it has WAY too many darkness towers in it. (but it beat my pdials anyway :p) Still, it managed to do fairly well in spite of that; it would have done better had I realized this fact six days ago :) The basic idea should be fairly obvious; I was hoping the AI would chaos power the vampires, but in the arena game I mentioned above, it played them on maxwell's demon instead :(
I'm taking the deck down early because at 6 days old, it's only going down in rank, and also because it's clear that the deck isn't very well liked by the community with that low thumbs up ratio. My card today is dagger, and I'll make a deck with that, and since the oracle spins in a half hour, I'll see if i get something more interesting than dagger. Odds are unless it's a nymph, I'll stick with the dagger, because I've got a fantastic idea for it, that if nothing else, will make people laugh :p I think it might actually win a few games, too, but we'll see...
edit: Epic daggers!
(http://img845.imageshack.us/img845/3958/1ucs.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/845/1ucs.jpg/)
Post by: dragonsdemesne on July 23, 2013, 01:38:05 am
Oracle Card: DAGGER
wins: 8 losses: 4 rank: >500 Rating: -90 age: 2
2/8 thumbs ups (wtf?)
(http://img203.imageshack.us/img203/6308/9q69.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/203/9q69.jpg/)
Apparently aether mark dirk using decks that can generate 40 attack flying free dirks are so common that most of you couldn't be bothered to thumb it up... yeah, that must be it... :p I expected this to get thumbs ups through the roof, but I guess the silences annoyed people too much. It's too bad; this was one of my more creative decks in this thread, but only 25% of the players liked it. I'd like to think that had it gotten more plays, it would have gotten a better thumbs up ratio, and that this is just due to small sample size.
Today's card is dimensional shield. Not many people are a fan of that one... I'll try to do something unorthodox and hope it's appreciated.
Post by: dragonsdemesne on July 27, 2013, 10:11:25 pm
Oracle Card: DIMENSIONAL SHIELD
wins: 33 losses: 9 rank: >500 Rating: -126 age: 5
8/33 thumbs up
(http://img821.imageshack.us/img821/8270/i5mm.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/821/i5mm.jpg/)
My goal here was to build a dark/aether duo that did not use a) immortal/SoW, b) pestal, c) vampires. The combination of SoV/silence was intended to buy more time for the void shards to do their thing, while the 6 siphons/bolts would take care of creatures, as well as provide a finisher once the void shards worked long enough. It seems it wasn't particularly popular anyway, since it still had a few hated cards (dimshield, silence, SoV), but it did better in terms of thumbs up ratio than probably any other dark/aether duo would have.
Today's card is shield. That gives me quite a bit of freedom to find something clever to do, since I can do any element or combination thereof. I'll try to make something extra cool... :p
Post by: dragonsdemesne on July 29, 2013, 02:49:19 pm
Oracle Card: SHIELD
wins: 9 losses: 5 rank: >500 Rating: -102 age: 2
5/9 thumbs up (wooo!)
(http://img153.imageshack.us/img153/4149/joai.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/153/joai.jpg/)
Well, I'm glad this was a success in terms of creativity, if not actual wins. I heavily borrowed from one of my BL decks this season, which I call "The So(a)Pbox", because it uses SoP and lots of 1 quanta creatures to quickly grow a lethal army. (I in turn borrowed that deck from one of the higher ranked BL players this season, but I won't give away their deck by naming them) I tweaked it somewhat for the arena, but the basic concept is the same; play a nova, play your hand, play SoP, wait a few turns, and attack, while hoping that your opponent can't either hard counter the strategy (eternity, gravity shield, dim/wing chain, etc) or outrush it. I went with 2x mark and max hp this time because the deck barely needs any quanta at all, and I threw in steam machines to make use of the extra water quanta, and the brimstones give extra fire quanta to pump them. (same with leaf dragon to get the lone pegasus out)
Today's card is chaos seed. Lots of things to do with that one... I'll try to find a new one!
Post by: dragonsdemesne on July 30, 2013, 05:34:49 pm
Oracle Card: CHAOS SEED
wins: 3 losses: 3 rank: >500 Rating: -100 age: 1
Thumbs up: 1/3
(http://img585.imageshack.us/img585/1785/7trj.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/585/7trj.jpg/)
I should have learned after all this time... never EVER trust the AI to play twin universe right. I thought this deck would've done a bit better than it did, but I'm sure the AI was sitting on its TUs even when it could've played them to win. I was hoping that when the AI stacked the same creature with chaos power (like it always does) that it would then TU that creature, but I guess even the temptation of an extra nice creature to twin couldn't induce it to play smarter...
Today's card is rustler. That might be a really tough one to do well with. I'll try to come up with something interesting...
edit: Wow, I really hit on a success this time :) My rustler deck is 7-0 so far (yes, rustler is undefeated!) with 4 thumbs ups :D
Post by: Odii Odsen on August 03, 2013, 03:30:49 pm
Post by: dragonsdemesne on August 03, 2013, 06:35:30 pm
Post by: dragonsdemesne on August 07, 2013, 11:25:18 pm
Oracle Card: RUSTLER
wins: 53 losses: 15 rank: >500 Rating: -111 age: 8
21/53 thumbs up
(http://img837.imageshack.us/img837/9803/e68g.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/837/e68g.jpg/)
This deck did quite a bit better than I thought it would. After the first two days I think it was 19-1, with about half thumbs ups. People seemed to like it as well, judging by the thumbs up totals. There's quite a few nice little synergies in the deck, from solar shield/rustler to green nymph/quanta creatures to mitosis/0 cost creature, and so on. It made it the full 8 days, so it was a success for me in terms of raw quality, and it got a pretty good ratio of thumbs ups, so it was a success creatively as well.
Today's card is firefly. Several possibilities exist for that one... I'll take a look what I've already done. Ideally I'd like to do some oddball thing involving unupped and upped fireflies and fire/light cards, but that might be really hard to pull off successfully.
Post by: dragonsdemesne on August 08, 2013, 11:36:35 pm
Oracle Card: FIREFLY
wins: 0 losses: 2 rank: >500 Rating: -80 age: 1
0/0 thumbs up
(http://img689.imageshack.us/img689/2875/0pwx.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/689/0pwx.jpg/)
I'd like to think this would've earned thumbs ups had it managed to win any games, but the deck is way too bloated to be really successful. Rage Elixir can be used as CC or to turn queens into 9/1 attackers. Two blessings will counteract the damage done by an elixir. Other than that, it's got most of the usual FFQ synergies, so nothing needs to be said. I think the deck probably has way too much air quanta and/or not enough life quanta, but I never bother doing QI numbers for my arena decks since you can't export/import deck codes there; I just eyeball it and hope it works. Looking at it now, I really should have used damselflies instead of wind towers, to remove some excess quanta and get more damage in, particularly with the shards, but hindsight is 20/20.
Today's card is otyugh. I've got a rather weird idea I'm going to try for this one, but it might just work if done right.
Post by: dragonsdemesne on August 09, 2013, 11:25:01 pm
Oracle Card: OTYUGH
wins: 1 losses: 2 rank: >500 Rating: -75 age: 1
0/1 thumbs up
(http://img560.imageshack.us/img560/8458/o11n.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/560/o11n.jpg/)
I tested a game or two against this one, and I thought it was rather fun, and it beat the deck I was using at the time (I think pdials? not sure now) so I thought it might do alright, but it was not to be. Lots of fun little synergies; red nymphs on SoF and firemasters, and the synergy between otyughs, red nymphs, and fire bucklers. Ah, well... I was hoping it would do better, particularly as today's card is flooding, and that's going to be really hard to pull off :p I'll still give it a try, though.
Post by: dragonsdemesne on August 10, 2013, 12:47:16 am
Oracle Card: FLOODING
wins: 0 losses: 2 rank: >500 Rating: -80 age: 0
0/0 thumbs up
(http://img826.imageshack.us/img826/4229/xk9q.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/826/xk9q.jpg/)
Well, that was a new record... :p Deck lasted like an hour. I didn't expect it to last more than a day, but it managed to defeat even my lowest expectations! I wish it had won even one game... I would then try to imagine the look on that person's face as they got roflstomped by massive invincible condors while being unable to get past the bone wall mountain. The unupped boneyards and dry spells were deliberate; I wanted the AI to kill its own skeletons in order to create bigger condors and bone walls. Other than that, all synergies and card choices should be reasonably obvious, albeit extremely silly.
edit: Just spun oracle, got rustler again :p I'm not sure if I can come up with yet another clever rustler deck, but I'll try. If not, I'll put a farm up.
Post by: dragonsdemesne on August 11, 2013, 06:44:53 pm
Oracle Card: RUSTLER
wins: 1 losses: 3 rank: >500 Rating: --112 age: 1
1/1 thumbs up
(http://img850.imageshack.us/img850/6325/t7m9.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/850/t7m9.jpg/)
I'm not really sure what I was trying to do here, other than to be unpredictable. I thought I remembered putting shards of gratitude in here, but apparently not... I do know I redid the deck a couple times because I kept running out of space to put everything I wanted, so maybe they got lost in the shuffle somehow.
Today's card is parasite. Nothing's coming to mind right away... not sure what I'll do, yet.
Post by: dragonsdemesne on August 15, 2013, 12:45:06 pm
Oracle Card: PARASITE
wins: 16 losses: 5 rank: >500 Rating: -85 age: 4
2/16 thumbs up
(http://img21.imageshack.us/img21/9652/qd9b.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/21/qd9b.jpg/)
Well. Of all the decks I've had (besides the ones that die early with few/no wins) this is the worst thumbs up ratio I have -ever- had. I even tried to use a few nonstandard cards to spice the deck up, like Condor, but it seems that wasn't enough. Interestingly, when going back through my older decks, I found one the last time I got parasite (which inspired this deck) where I used shards of sacrifice and void, and it got better feedback from what I recall. Perhaps the idea was new then, but has been done to death now?
Today's card is... amber nymph! Yes! Woooooo! I just had one while my rustler deck was up (the 53-15 one, not the 1-3 one) so I didn't make a deck around it, but this time I definitely will. This will be an extremely challenging one to find a deck that people don't hate, because amber nymph is such a strong and hated card, particularly in the arena, but I'll see if I can come up with something clever enough to do the trick. I have one rather interesting idea just now... actually, come to think of it, I've NEVER seen this idea before, so I'm going for it. Shard of patience/amber nymph... yeah, it's evil :p
Post by: dragonsdemesne on August 23, 2013, 12:23:16 am
Oracle Card: AMBER NYMPH
wins: 47 losses: 11 rank: >500 Rating: -109 age: 7
16/47 thumbs up
(http://img689.imageshack.us/img689/5928/x0mg.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/689/x0mg.jpg/)
This deck did about as well as I thought it would in terms of win/loss, but I'm surprised it managed to get as high as a 1/3 thumbs up ratio. I feared people would think it was too similar to 'swallow' or that it was too full of a-hole cards like amber nymph and shard of focus. I submitted it anyway because I have never seen anyone do shard of patience with amber nymph in the arena before, although that is largely due to the rarity of nymphs; it's quite easy to come up with an innovative arena deck based on a nymph. I didn't want to fall back on the crutch of a boring DBH (which I've done, and had in the top 10 two or three times) or on (even more than this) denial-based monogravities and the like. (6x nymph 6x SoF and whatever else, or pest duo, etc)
As for the deck itself, the choices should be fairly obvious. Octopi and dragon to soak up extra water quanta in the mid-late game, salvagers to protect against EQ and to protect the shards, nymph/SoF for denial, otyugh/octopi for CC. I didn't put this through QI calculations (I never do for arena decks, since if I don't have a code to copy/paste, I won't do it :p) but I added what I thought were several extra towers to try and make sure a nymph got out quick. In playtesting, the AI sometimes would play a bunch of other gravity cards after the first nymph (other nymphs, otyughs, shards) instead of activating the first nymph and commencing lockdown against the player, so I added more towers in the hopes that it would have enough to do both, or at least shorten the length of time the AI was stupid :p
Today's card is aether pillar, giving me a good amount of freedom in deck design. I'm not sure what I'll pick yet. I'll just start going through the cards and wait until something hits me. (which is what I usually do, unless I have an idea right away)
Post by: dragonsdemesne on August 23, 2013, 04:07:03 am
Oracle Card: AETHER PILLAR
wins: 0 losses: 3 rank: >500 Rating: -120 age: 0
0/0 thumbs up
(http://img854.imageshack.us/img854/5180/p8bv.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/854/p8bv.jpg/)
Meh, win some, lose some :p Maybe I'll come up with a better deck tomorrow... it can't really be any worse.
Post by: dragonsdemesne on August 24, 2013, 07:32:51 pm
Oracle Card: PANDEMONIUM
wins: 4 losses: 3 rank: >500 Rating: -95 age: 1
1/4 thumbs up
(http://img18.imageshack.us/img18/1951/6n47.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/18/6n47.jpg/)
My reasoning was pretty much like the last two decks; use shard of patience to buff something or other (in this case, purple nymphs) and stall until they were big enough to win. I was hoping it would be received as well as the amber nymph deck was, but it obviously wasn't as strong, so it never got the chance. (and yes, I really do have 5 upped purple nymphs; I have 11 entropy nymphs...)
Today's card is cockatrice. The first thing I thought of, not surprisingly, given my last 3 decks, was some sort of shard of patience life deck :p I'll see if I can make it work... :)
Post by: dragonsdemesne on August 25, 2013, 09:57:32 pm
Oracle Card: COCKATRICE
wins: 3 losses: 3 rank: >500 Rating: -100 age: 1
1/3 thumbs up
(http://img543.imageshack.us/img543/1371/bbd5.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/543/bbd5.jpg/)
More SoP silliness :) The quanta denial with the ambers seems to be the way to go, most likely because many of the best plat farming decks don't really use much in the way of creatures, or if they do, they are ones that are hard to deal with under any circumstances. (and much worse with the AI's lack of common sense in most situations)
Today's card is virus. I'm not sure what clever and ridiculous and creative deck I can come up with for that, but it'll probably lose within 24 hours :) I just can't be bothered to make decks that are actually serious in the arena, anymore. Only funny ones are allowed!
Post by: dragonsdemesne on August 28, 2013, 11:25:07 pm
Oracle Card: VIRUS
wins: 15 losses: 5 rank: >500 Rating: -95 age: 3
6/15 thumbs up
(http://img593.imageshack.us/img593/8564/s5hf.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/593/s5hf.jpg/)
40% thumbs up is pretty good, so in my mind this was a success. The deck theme should be fairly obvious; most of the deck centers around giving out poison counters to the opponent's creatures, with the rest being support and/or synergy for said strategy.
Today's card is devonian dragon. I'm not sure that I've ever had that one for my arena deck before, so I might be able to find something new to do with it. Here's hoping, at least...
Post by: dawn to dusk on August 28, 2013, 11:51:17 pm
Anyway, you're a great deckbuilder and I am enjoying this thread so keep up the good work ^_^
Post by: dragonsdemesne on August 29, 2013, 12:09:56 am
I did a thread search and I did have devonian dragon once before, and I made a duo with water using nymph's tears and queens and purify, so that I could make lots of nymphs. It did very well, but for some bizarre reason it was rated very poorly by the community, even though I thought it was very creative, and hadn't seen anything like it before.
Post by: dragonsdemesne on August 30, 2013, 12:16:12 am
Oracle Card: DEVONIAN DRAGON
wins: 3 losses: 3 rank: >500 Rating: -100 age: 1
1/3 thumbs up
(http://img706.imageshack.us/img706/2908/71sy.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/706/71sy.jpg/)
This to me seemed like a very fun and creative deck, but I never playtested against it, so I have no idea whether I got the quanta balance right or how the AI performed with it. I'd hoped for a little more from it, just because I thought it was one of my more interesting creations, but as is usually the case with the more innovative decks, they often fail within the first day.
Today's card is amethyst pillar. Dunno what I'll do with that, yet. (well, an entropy deck perhaps...) Whatever strikes my fancy first, I suppose.
Post by: serprex on August 30, 2013, 01:27:40 am
I didn't think the AI would RT Skeletons
Post by: dragonsdemesne on August 30, 2013, 02:08:27 am
Post by: dragonsdemesne on September 01, 2013, 02:26:37 pm
Oracle Card: AMETHYST PILLAR
wins: 11 losses: 5 rank: >500 Rating: -98 age: 3
4/11 thumbs up
(http://img401.imageshack.us/img401/5774/jwjx.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/401/jwjx.jpg/)
Well, I wasn't expecting too much from this deck, considering it was based on a low level submission I made to the bestiary, but the thumbs up ratio was fairly nice, so that's always good. I won't bother recapping my thinking for it; just look under 'yeti' in the bestiary thread in my signature if you care. The deck actually dropped below 500 yesterday (so technically it lost at age 2) but I was too busy/lazy/didn't want to use the dimshield I got yesterday to build a deck with it.
Today's card is flying weapon. Hmm..... a few possibilities with that one. I'll see what I can come up with. There's one deck I've wanted to do for a long time, and I don't think I've submitted it yet; if not, I'm going to pick it.
Post by: dragonsdemesne on September 07, 2013, 11:06:23 pm
Oracle Card: FLYING WEAPON
wins: 18 losses: 6 rank: >500 Rating: -90 age: 3
(forgot to record thumbs up, I think it was about 7)
(http://img17.imageshack.us/img17/2723/5o5d.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/17/5o5d.jpg/)
This one's from a couple days ago, when the forum was down. I thought it was very clever, and I've always wanted to try and find a way to do shard of patience / crusader in a deck. I'd been trying to design an unupped deck for BL based on that, but I don't think it's possible to make a decent one with unupped flying weapon.
The one I have up now is using catapult and is 24-3 with 11 thumbs ups somehow, and is on day 3.
Post by: dragonsdemesne on September 12, 2013, 11:38:39 pm
Oracle Card: CATAPULT
wins: 53 losses: 12 rank: >500 Rating: -78 age: 8
19/53 thumbs up
(http://img845.imageshack.us/img845/4067/bge0.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/845/bge0.jpg/)
Well... wow, did that perform a lot better than I thought it would, on all levels. My first thought on getting catapult was that the deck should be large, in order to dilute the problem of having ten of them in the deck. After that, it seemed obvious that large creatures were in order, so six dragons, titans/AWs, and six shards of focus went into the deck. Four nymphs for more control in addition to the shards, and one foil chimera, mostly for silliness, but it might've broken past a few bone walls or something on occasion, though with titans that shouldn't have really been necessary. I also did it in the hopes that maybe the AI got to catapult an extremely fat chimera at some point :p The deck didn't seem particularly imaginative to me, nor did I think it would survive more than a day or two, but apparently the community felt otherwise. It got a decent number of thumbs ups, particularly early on, and managed to survive the magic eight days. (1hp left)
Today's card is mindgate, which as some may know, is my favourite card in Elements. I'll try to build something extra special. My first thought was a large aether mark rainbow using mindgates and nymphs. I think I'll probably do something along those lines, with various support cards, like SoR for the nymphs, or various removal/stall cards to get it going.
Post by: dragonsdemesne on September 16, 2013, 01:14:29 pm
Oracle Card: MINDGATE
wins: 21 losses: 6 rank: >500 Rating: -90 age: 4
9/21 thumbs up
(imageshack was down, so I built the deck this way)
This deck was a blast to play against. I tested it to see how it would do... and then I kept testing against it with other decks, because it was so much fun :p This should have gotten a lot more thumbs up than it did... ah, well. I'd totally have given this one a thumbs up, and I'm really stingy with them.
Today's card is dimensional shield. That's always a tough one, since a lot of people don't like that card. I'll try to find something interesting, though.
Also, owing to league codes being sent out (but not tourney codes yet) I have a mark of gravity and mark of water to put into decks now as well. When tourney codes come, I'll pick life and something else; not sure what yet.
Post by: dragonsdemesne on September 17, 2013, 04:47:57 am
Oracle Card: DIMENSIONAL SHIELD
wins: 2 losses: 3 rank: >500 Rating: -109 age: 0
0/2 thumbs up
(http://img15.imageshack.us/img15/3068/9fgn.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/15/9fgn.jpg/)
I had about 30 seconds this morning to come up with something... and this was the result. I'm pretty sure it had way too much gravity quanta (and even more fail) but whatever. Fingers crossed for a nymph tonight... I'm hoping for air nymphs right now!
Post by: dragonsdemesne on September 18, 2013, 11:35:30 pm
Oracle Card: HOLY LIGHT
wins: 9 losses: 5 rank: >500 Rating: -116 age: 1
4/9 thumbs up
(http://img12.imageshack.us/img12/79/aoaf.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/12/aoaf.jpg/)
I was in a bit of a rush making this deck again, and I think I have done something very similar before in this thread, only without the holy flashes, but I didn't bother to check if I had. 9 games is a fairly small sample size, but apparently it was well-received, so I'm glad.
Today's card is crimson dragon. I remember doing a PU/silence duo with that one time, and I've probably done monofire rush with it, too, and I think I did a black hole off the mark as well, so I'll look for a different deck than those.
Post by: dragonsdemesne on September 20, 2013, 12:53:43 pm
Oracle Card: CRIMSON DRAGON
wins: 5 losses: 4 rank: >500 Rating: -120 age: 2
3/5 thumbs up
(http://img802.imageshack.us/img802/2393/w7z3.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/802/w7z3.jpg/)
This deck is utterly ridiculous :p It was completely based on overloading a ruby dragon (or seraph) with lots and lots of buffs and TUing it. It seems that I can't count towers, though, and I had way too few in the deck for some reason. Still, at least people liked it :)
Today's card is voodoo doll. That's always a hard one to build around, since there aren't many ways to do it that the AI will recognize, and I've already done most of them, but I'll try to find something new anyway.
Post by: dragonsdemesne on September 21, 2013, 06:22:29 pm
Oracle Card: VOODOO DOLL
wins: 4 losses: 4 rank: >500 Rating: -106 age: 1
4/4 thumbs up (100%! yay!)
(http://img694.imageshack.us/img694/6800/nbwh.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/694/nbwh.jpg/)
After this deck went 4-1 at first, I decided to test against it to see why it was doing much better than I thought. I had a monogravity deck loaded, and I blew away all its burning towers with SoF, and denied fire quanta for a long time. When it finally got 8 fire quanta... there was no red nymph played. So, it wasn't exactly a fair test :p In any event, the inspiration for this deck came from a tournament (I think last year sometime) where I built a similar deck to this one in one of the consolation matches (either bronze or for 5th-6th) just for fun, and actually won with it, to my surprise :p The perfect 4/4 thumbs up ratio is certainly encouraging; I was not really expecting that, but even with the failure of the deck to last more than 1 day, I'm happy about that.
Today's card is abomination. The last time I had that, I think I did something with butterfly effect. I'll see if I can find something even smarter. Maybe I'll do micro abom/BE and purple nymph and shards of readiness? I dunno yet...
edit: Hehe, I just built a quintet... and it beat poison dials :)
edit: WOW... it's 8-3 and NOBODY has thumbed it up yet.. it should seriously have 8/8; it's way more unique than the one above, and it got 4/4.
Post by: dragonsdemesne on September 23, 2013, 11:20:04 pm
Oracle Card: ABOMINATION
wins: 11 losses: 4 rank: >500 Rating: -85 age: 2
2/11 thumbs up (conclusion: 9 of you suck ass :p )
(http://img30.imageshack.us/img30/2518/2f5.JPG) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/30/2f5.JPG/)
Honestly, I have no idea how you can downvote this deck. I mean, surely nobody in the history of Elements has built this :p (for good reason, but still...) I'm actually quite surprised it got as many wins as it did; I was only expecting maybe one or two wins before it dropped out of plat. I just can't believe so many people didn't like it. How many abomination/werewolf/RoL nymph/hope decks are there that also pack butterfly effect and siphon life? Pretty sure that the answer is 1, including this one.
Ah, well, rant over. Today's card is flesh spider. I should punish you all by making a monodeath human farmer... but I'll try to refrain from doing that. Not sure what I'll do yet, but it can't possibly be as cool as this deck was.
Post by: dragonsdemesne on September 25, 2013, 03:57:30 am
Oracle Card: FLESH SPIDER
wins: 2 losses: 3 rank: >500 Rating: -114 age: 1
1/2 thumbs up
(http://img837.imageshack.us/img837/4083/gk8r.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/837/gk8r.jpg/)
Now this deck, I thought was fun :) Originally I had wings in there to combo with the spiders, but then once I built the rest of it, I realized that it conflicted with the bone walls, so I took the wings out. On reflection, I now realize that this means the deck basically didn't have anything to do with spiders anymore, and could have really been built around any old card. Still, the deck is quite interesting, I think. It actually takes advantage of the fact that the AI will blow up unstable gas even when it wipes out half its own field, by growing the bone walls and making skeletons via boneyard. It will then, because I chose unupped boneyards, blow up its own skeletons the next time it activates a gas, and get even more bonewall counters. (rather than need 2 gases to do the same job) The rest of the deck's synergies should be fairly obvious. The shards of bravery were there to help use excess fire quanta and give the deck a better chance to draw all the different parts it needs to set all that in motion.
Today's card is fire bolt. I don't know if I've tried it yet in arena, but I've been wanting to do a fire/air direct damage deck using unstable gas for awhile in pvp, but never gotten around to it. I'll build something like that and see how it goes.
edit: Wow, I just checked, and the deck I put up (the one I described above) is 23-1 with 12/23 thumbs ups so far! It's at rank 10 now, so it might not be possible to know how many thumbs ups it gets if it does any better, due to the bonus rewards for top 10 decks. It's been awhile since one of my creative decks did that well; usually they suck because they're too silly :p
edit: Hmm, just noticed that the number of plays I've gotten has been abnormally low... it might not get too much higher after all, as decks with 1-2 less days have had more plays.
(http://img820.imageshack.us/img820/7225/ztwp.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/820/ztwp.jpg/)
Post by: dragonsdemesne on October 02, 2013, 04:21:33 am
Oracle Card: FIREBOLT
wins: 28 losses: 8 rank: >500 Rating: -78 age: 7
16/28 thumbs up (>50%!)
(http://img812.imageshack.us/img812/4918/q2yd.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/812/q2yd.jpg/)
Well, that was a simply great thumbs up ratio, and at least up until the last two days, a very nice win-loss record as well. Had it had a more typical number of plays, it could have been more of a contender in the top ten, but if memory serves, after getting to rank 10 in the screenshot, it lost the next few games, so it never actually earned any bonus electrum, and the thumbs up count is accurate. I'm quite surprised that people liked this deck so much, but perhaps the idea of fire+air in a direct damage deck hasn't been done very much; on reflection, I can't recall seeing it very often at all before. I'd actually been thinking of trying a similar idea for a BL deck next season, and the success of this deck makes me think that perhaps it has a chance in pvp.
I don't normally mix weapon types in a deck, because the AI tends to play over one weapon with a higher costed one, but with animate weapons and the fact that both fahrenheit and eagle's eye are both very strong in this deck, I felt it was worth it to do it anyway. The other thing that I was worried about initially, but proved to either not be an issue (or the deck was simply good enough that it win in spite of this flaw) was that the AI would make its red nymphs into 6/1 creatures and then blow them up with unstable gas. Perhaps the AI would use gas first, so that it wouldn't be able to rage pot a 1/5 nymph? I'm not sure, but I think the AI usually activates creatures before permanents, though... so I really have no idea what went on with that.
I almost took the deck down yesterday (it was 28-6 then) because I had nymph's tears, but then I calculated the thumbs up ratio, and realized it was one of my highest ratios of all time (I think only my top ten monoearth SoP deck, when SoP was 'other', had a higher one here at around 60% http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,28528.msg533554/topicseen.html#msg533554 ) so I figured I'd leave it up since people seemed to like it so much. Today I got blessing, which at least is a card I don't think I've ever built an arena deck around before. It's also a card I don't usually use much at all, because my playstyle doesn't really favour creature buff cards, but in any event, I'll try to think of something interesting with it. Some of the more common ideas I've seen are blessed dune scorps or wardens or otyughs, speedbows, and things of that nature. I might try something a little more bizarre, like blessed deathstalkers. I did a crusader/flying weapon/shard of patience deck once, which could benefit from blessing, assuming the AI played it in the right order, but while very creative, I don't think that deck lasted more than a day. I'm not sure what I'll do yet, but I'll try to pick something really weird.
Post by: TribalTrouble on October 06, 2013, 11:47:25 am
200hp, 60 wisdom, 2x card draw, 2x mark
Oracle Card: FOREST SCORPION
wins: 38 losses: 10 rank: 120 rating: 70 age: 4
(http://img716.imageshack.us/img716/5585/scorpionzl.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/716/scorpionzl.jpg/)
Pretty straightforward deck. Cast arsenics off the mark, play epinephrined scorpions, and hopefully win! Awfully hard for the AI to misplay, and the draws should've been pretty consistent. The unupped pillars were just because I didn't have any more upped ones; I figured unupped pillar > upped pend in this deck. If you don't have a green nymph, a 6th epi would be just fine. (which I also didn't have)
*snip*
My use of my oracle card, Graveyard, was to look in the forgotten first pages of this thread, the decks of old, take one, and modify it to my liking. Ended up just ignoring Graveyard and using this deck idea. Having 5 Life Nymphs didn't hurt. (Although I only put in 2 due to their high cost) A quick test run revealed that the Graveyards didn't hinder the speed at all, just added reinforcements if the opponent decided to use CC.
Post by: dragonsdemesne on October 06, 2013, 03:46:51 pm
Since I'm posting anyway... my arena deck with blessing is 34-5 with 10 thumbs ups so far. Also, I will be out of town and most likely without internet from Monday to Saturday, starting tomorrow. I'll probably post a new arena deck Monday, regardless of what card I have or how my current deck is, and hope it lasts. I'll also be joining leagues again (probably BL again) but I'll wait until after I get back for that.
Post by: dragonsdemesne on October 07, 2013, 01:38:44 pm
Oracle Card: BLESSING
wins: 40 losses: 7 rank: 302 Rating: -12 age: 6
12/40 thumbs up
(http://img163.imageshack.us/img163/3664/p6mq.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/163/p6mq.jpg/)
For some reason, the idea of shard of patience + shard of freedom + wyrm has been something I've been trying to make work in pvp, but I haven't been able to make a good version yet. At least it works better in the arena :) Fireflies let the blessing be cast, and hopefully the AI will put it on the wyrms :p
Today's card is nymph's tears. I took the deck down early because I probably won't have internet again until Saturday. We'll see if I can find something that will last that long :)
Post by: TribalTrouble on October 07, 2013, 09:02:58 pm
Post by: Submachine on October 12, 2013, 03:30:56 pm
Post by: serprex on October 12, 2013, 03:34:14 pm
x*12+y*24=electrumwon
x+y=gameswon
Where x is novote/downvote, y is upvotes, & coefficients change for different leagues
Post by: Submachine on October 12, 2013, 03:42:57 pm
This was in Platinum League.
Post by: dragonsdemesne on October 12, 2013, 10:49:13 pm
Serprex is correct, but what I do is this, because it only has one variable to solve for instead of two, so less math. (If you are not in platinum league, the 12 will be some other smaller number; I don't know them off the top of my head, but I'm sure it's somewhere on the forum)
# thumbs up = ( Electrum Won / 12 ) - Games Won
For example, the deck I had up over vacation (still alive, btw) has won 540 electrum so far and has 29 wins. # thumbs up = 540/12 - 29 = 45 - 29 = 16 So the deck has 16/29 thumbs ups.
Post by: dragonsdemesne on October 14, 2013, 05:10:34 am
Oracle Card: NYMPH'S TEARS
wins: 37 losses: 10 rank: >500 Rating: -90 age: 6
17/37 thumbs up :)
(http://img716.imageshack.us/img716/750/qwxe.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/716/qwxe.jpg/)
Well, mission accomplished :) My goal was to make a deck that would either play nymph's tears on towers, cloak them, and PU something, and not have the player know wtf was happening, or else do the same thing with boneyard skeletons + fallen druid, and cloak them and PU. How often this actually went according to plan... I don't know. The rest of the deck was designed as survival to hopefully get that silly combo out. Surprisingly, it did quite well, and garnered nearly 50% thumbs ups.
Today's card is death pendulum, leaving my options fairly open for creativity, which is nice. Also, with this summer's mark codes for tourneys, I picked a mark of life and a mark of light, so I now have 1 of each mark unupped, except for light, where I have 2, so I can use those if desired. (or if I want to show off... :p )
Post by: dragonsdemesne on October 17, 2013, 11:36:52 pm
Oracle Card: DEATH PENDULUM
wins: 25 losses: 7 rank: >500 Rating: -87 age: 4
11/25 thumbs up (44%)
(http://img62.imageshack.us/img62/2806/o66b.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/62/o66b.jpg/)
Well, I'm fairly happy with this result. A very decent number of thumbs ups, particularly given the fact that I had twelve shards of focus in the deck. I really like the synergies of things dying in this deck along with the bone walls and graveyards. It's essentially a catatitan deck that duos with death in order to get benefits from your things that will die. Catapult a titan, get bones and skeletons. Spend your shard of focus, get the same. Use retrovirus to plague your enemy's field, get the same. Ball lightnings that suicide into more skeletons and walls, and condors to benefit from all the carnage. I know chimera eating your field doesn't trigger any of that, but I used it anyway, because there's always the chance to catapult the chimera, as well as get around shields, although most shields probably did little to nothing against this deck, anyway, since sofo can blow them up and titans and trebuchets just ignore them.
Today's card is steam machine. I wanted to try a red nymph/steam machine/shard of patience deck, but I'm not sure if I've done that before or not. If I haven't, I'll probably post that, otherwise, I'll think of something else.
Post by: dragonsdemesne on October 18, 2013, 11:33:04 pm
Oracle Card: STEAM MACHINE
wins: 0 losses: 2 rank: >500 Rating: -80 age: 1
0/0 thumbs up
(http://img541.imageshack.us/img541/1819/oo88.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/541/oo88.jpg/)
Well... at least it looks cool :p I'd like to think if it won, that it would've gotten lots of thumbs ups. Today's card is bone pillar.
Post by: ddevans96 on October 19, 2013, 12:19:11 am
17/37 thumbs up :)
Ah darn, I thought this was 13 thumbs up xD
Post by: dragonsdemesne on October 19, 2013, 08:22:24 am
Oracle Card: BONE PILLAR
wins: 0 losses: 2 rank: >500 Rating: -80 age: 1
0/0 thumbs up
(http://img4.imageshack.us/img4/2016/ttvk.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/4/ttvk.jpg/)
Two failures in a row :p Not really much to say, here. Today's card is earthquake.
Post by: dragonsdemesne on October 27, 2013, 02:04:29 pm
Oracle Card: EARTHQUAKE
wins: 48 losses: 12 rank: >500 Rating: -84 age: 8
18/48 thumbs up
(http://img96.imageshack.us/img96/9605/pbzj.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/96/pbzj.jpg/)
This deck was heavily inspired by the deck found here: http://elementscommunity.org/forum/duo-decks/dragon-tamers-(life-earth)(rareless)/ Therefore, I must share all success that this deck has with dawn to dusk :p The deck lasted 8 days, and it even got one win on the 8th day while it had 1hp :p The strategy is quite simple. Start off by playing gnome/epinephrine for lots of quanta, then play steel golem/mitosis for lots of attackers, while the quicksands and granite skins stall long enough for this to happen. Green nymphs because I could, and because the triple life mark makes it possible quanta-wise. The AI even played epi on the gnomes and mitosis on the golems, at least in the couple of test games I played, which was unexpectedly nice.
Since I borrowed from another deck, I'll also mention why I made some of the changes. I went with steel golems instead of dragons, because they only cost 4 quanta and you still get a pretty good hitter that's very hard to kill with CC. I went with life mark and earth quanta cards because I felt that would be faster. The earth creatures need to come out first before any of the life cards can be played anyway, so it's okay if it takes until the second or third turn to play the life cards. I took out the cockatrices because I felt they got in the way of that, taking the life quanta needed for the epi/mitosis, as well as being targets the AI might play those on instead when I didn't want it to.
Today's card is immortal. I'll have to check what I've done with that one in the past; I'm pretty sure I've had it a few times already. I'll try to make it interesting as usual.
Post by: dragonsdemesne on October 30, 2013, 01:02:17 am
Oracle Card: IMMORTAL
wins: 17 losses: 4 rank: >500 Rating: -84 age: 2
3/17 thumbs up
(http://img6.imageshack.us/img6/5943/5ejc.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/6/5ejc.jpg/)
Well, despite being a deck I've never seen done before anywhere, people hated it :p Admittedly, I can see why; while it is something I've never seen done, it has several hated characteristics, notably poison, immortal creatures, dimshields, and sosa, all rolled into one neat little package. At least I got a BL deck idea out of it... :p The deck had done very well to start; I remember checking on it and seeing it at 14-0. Then I saw 14-2, and then coming home from work today, the final 17-4. Oh, well...
Today's card is pulverizer. The forced duo will make it very hard to come up with a deck that hasn't been seen before. Probably the only way I can make it unique is to find some sort of trio that's interesting. I have an extremely silly idea that I'm going to try... :p
Post by: TribalTrouble on October 30, 2013, 02:41:08 am
Post by: dragonsdemesne on October 30, 2013, 03:29:18 am
Post by: dragonsdemesne on October 31, 2013, 11:30:02 pm
Oracle Card: PULVERIZER
wins: 8 losses: 4 rank: >500 Rating: -105 age: 2
3/8 thumbs up
(http://img689.imageshack.us/img689/8083/usiq.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/689/usiq.jpg/)
Nothing too exciting or innovative, but I haven't seen wise pulverizers before, so it is kind of new. Today's card is momentum. I'll probably do something very silly with that, but I don't know what yet.
Post by: dragonsdemesne on November 01, 2013, 12:56:04 pm
Oracle Card: MOMENTUM
wins: 1 losses: 3 rank: >500 Rating: -110 age: 1
1/1 thumbs up
(http://img849.imageshack.us/img849/5635/kjcg.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/849/kjcg.jpg/)
Fun? Yes. Good? No. At least someone appreciated it. Today's card is gravity pendulum.
Post by: dragonsdemesne on November 01, 2013, 11:17:20 pm
Oracle Card: GRAVITY PENDULUM
wins: 2 losses: 3 rank: >500 Rating: -100 age: 0
2/2 thumbs up (that surprised me...)
(http://img7.imageshack.us/img7/9965/kocs.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/7/kocs.jpg/)
I saw someone post something similar to this on the forum a few days ago, so I decided to see how it would do. Apparently, not well... I'm very surprised that it got 2/2 thumbs ups, though; I would've guessed that people would hate the idea, even though it's one I don't remember seeing much of. I did see it once or twice back when shard of focus was in 'other', but I don't think since then. New arena deck will be posted later tonight, once I can spin the oracle again.
edit: Card was stone dragon, deck is 36-3, rank 11, 18/36 thumbs up. Just mentioning this because if it keeps winning, the thumbs up ratio will become impossible to calculate once it gets in the top 10. (unless I check every 2 minutes, which won't happen :p) I'm surprised it did this well, because the three losses were all in the first day or two and it almost dropped out of plat. (looking at the deck again, there's a lot of nymphs and rares in it, too, so the people who beat it probably won rares or relics)
Post by: dragonsdemesne on November 10, 2013, 02:51:37 pm
Oracle Card: STONE DRAGON
wins: 52 losses: 13 rank: >500 Rating: -105 age: 8
unknown thumbs up due to being top 10 at one point, but no more than 25
(http://i.imgur.com/hNh0TMj.jpg) (http://imgur.com/hNh0TMj)
Well, that worked pretty well. Almost half thumbs ups, and an eight day deck. The strategy was extremely simple as well. Dragons and nymphs are decent hard hitters that have a lot of hp, so are hard to deal with, plus the nymphs abilities help keep you alive. SoDs/Miracles for healing, and the high hp creatures get longer to do their thing. I didn't realize it when I built the deck, but except for the dragons and quanta, it's all rares/ultra-rares, so it made for some pretty nice spins afterwards, too :p
Today's card is antimatter. I don't know that I've ever built a deck around that one, so probably anything I do will be new. edit: apparently I've had it a few times. Well, now I know which decks not to do.
Post by: dragonsdemesne on November 11, 2013, 04:37:48 pm
Oracle Card: ANTIMATTER
wins: 3 losses: 3 rank: >500 Rating: -96 age: 1
1/3 thumbs up
(http://i.imgur.com/xi0Yd0R.jpg) (http://imgur.com/xi0Yd0R)
I really couldn't think of anything that was both good and creative, so I just went for creative on this one. On reflection, it was probably a terrible idea to have SoSes and have the only source of other quanta be the supernovas, but whatever.
Today's card is reverse time. It won't be ghostmare, but beyond that... I'll have to think on it.
Post by: dragonsdemesne on November 13, 2013, 12:14:00 am
Oracle Card: REVERSE TIME
wins: 8 losses: 4 rank: >500 Rating: -96 age: 1
4/8 thumbs up
(http://i.imgur.com/7EnSsKy.jpg) (http://imgur.com/7EnSsKy)
This is a slight variation of a theme I like to do in pvp1/2 once in awhile. It's too slow to be competitive there, but it's really fun when it works. The idea is to put SoR on nymphs/pharaohs/scarabs, as desired/available, and then TU them, so that the copies' activation costs are also 0. I thought that perhaps with arena stats it might be more viable. It was 3-0 when I went to work this morning, so I thought it was going somewhere, but when I came home tonight, it was already eliminated. At least it got 50% thumbs ups, even if it was a small sample size.
Today's card is titanium shield. Decent card, but I'm not really thrilled about having to have 10 of them in a deck. The most obvious deck to do with that is a stoneskin/miracle deck, so I'll do something different. No idea what, yet, but I'll probably have to make it fairly large to dilute the 10 shields.
Post by: Submachine on November 13, 2013, 07:21:53 am
(http://i.imgur.com/7EnSsKy.jpg) (http://imgur.com/7EnSsKy)Even though there are nymphs, I'd prefer to see Hourglasses in a time deck this big. :)
Post by: Higurashi on November 13, 2013, 09:26:32 am
My denialbows usually end up around 41 cards with 2 HG's and actually work the best around there.
Post by: Chapuz on November 13, 2013, 10:54:46 am
The only single reason many of your decks lose a lot of games is because you don't pack purifies or counters to PDials so often. Even in non- :water based decks, a pair of novas and puris can make your deck last significantly longer, if I'm not so wrong
Post by: dragonsdemesne on November 13, 2013, 03:22:01 pm
I love this thread since I have memory of it.
The only single reason many of your decks lose a lot of games is because you don't pack purifies or counters to PDials so often. Even in non- :water based decks, a pair of novas and puris can make your deck last significantly longer, if I'm not so wrong
Usually, I try to stick to a bit of a theme most of the time, even if it handicaps the deck slightly. If I can make a counter to common decks without damaging the theme, I'll do it, though. For example, if I use water, purify and/or shard of patience will almost always be included. You are correct, however. I still use pdials against platinum, and there are decks like monoair SoFr rush that pdials absolutely destroys, but often end up in the top 10 anyway. I once saw someone do the nova/purify splash thing against my pdials, and let's just say... it did not end well for me :p
Post by: Chapuz on November 13, 2013, 08:45:18 pm
I have seen even mono aether with a pair of water pends and puris. [Off topic]I love this thread since I have memory of it.
The only single reason many of your decks lose a lot of games is because you don't pack purifies or counters to PDials so often. Even in non- :water based decks, a pair of novas and puris can make your deck last significantly longer, if I'm not so wrong
Usually, I try to stick to a bit of a theme most of the time, even if it handicaps the deck slightly. If I can make a counter to common decks without damaging the theme, I'll do it, though. For example, if I use water, purify and/or shard of patience will almost always be included. You are correct, however. I still use pdials against platinum, and there are decks like monoair SoFr rush that pdials absolutely destroys, but often end up in the top 10 anyway. I once saw someone do the nova/purify splash thing against my pdials, and let's just say... it did not end well for me :p
Post by: dragonsdemesne on November 15, 2013, 12:44:15 am
Oracle Card: TITANIUM SHIELD
wins: 4 losses: 3 rank: >500 Rating: -96 age: 2
2/4 thumbs up
(http://i.imgur.com/zR4QdXz.jpg) (http://imgur.com/zR4QdXz)
I honestly can't even remember what I was trying to go for with this deck when I built it. It looks vaguely like my 'the real neptune' BL deck, only twice as fat and with lots of nymphs.
Today's card is light pillar. I don't have any ideas yet for that one. I think I'll either do some sort of entropy/light duo (a duo I don't remember seeing very often) or else a trio, but I haven't got anything more concrete in my head than that right now.
Post by: dragonsdemesne on November 16, 2013, 12:24:17 am
Oracle Card: LIGHT PILLAR
wins: 4 losses: 4 rank: >500 Rating: -118 age: 1
3/4 thumbs up
(http://i.imgur.com/uRJm1ii.jpg) (http://imgur.com/uRJm1ii)
I asked in chat what I should do with a light pillar in the arena. Someone said do monolight with SoD/miracle/light nymphs. I said no, that's not creative enough, but I liked the idea enough that I added water to get more nymphs via queens/tears. However, even that deck I've done before, so I looked at a third element, and settled on time for more drawing and the shards of readiness that work well on any nymph. Then I realized that almost the entire deck was rares, so I took out every nonrare card just for the lolz, and so I present to you a 12 ultra-rare, 15 shard, 10 rare deck. The mark of gravity was a last minute addition just for the pharaoh's scarabs, and so I could pretend I had a quad instead of a trio :p
Today's card is stone dragon. (again...) I've had this recently, so I'll try to be creative, but I'm not sure how easy it will be.
Post by: dragonsdemesne on November 16, 2013, 08:10:01 pm
Oracle Card: STONE DRAGON
wins: 3 losses: 3 rank: >500 Rating: -102 age: 1
0/3 thumbs up
(http://i.imgur.com/keRuigL.jpg) (http://imgur.com/keRuigL)
I was hoping the pairing of stone and colossal dragons along with catapults would be considered creative. While it probably was, the quicksands and pulverizers probably had an annoyance factor that was higher than the cool factor of catadragons.
Today's card is dagger. The last time I remember getting that, I did some sort of novabow with nothing but buffs for the flying dirks, and even that was a heck of a stretch to find an idea. I'll try to think of something, but it might just end up being a farm.
Post by: dragonsdemesne on November 19, 2013, 01:51:25 am
Oracle Card: DAGGER
wins: 7 losses: 5 rank: >500 Rating: -123 age: 2
0/7 thumbs up (very surprised at this)
(http://i.imgur.com/XbRydee.jpg) (http://imgur.com/XbRydee)
I've never seen this deck done before, at least not quite in this version, so its failure to get any thumbs ups at all is baffling to me. Perhaps pest is just hated that much. I thought it was a rather clever idea, myself. And it's completely pillarless! The only 0 cost cards are the dirks and damselflies.
A note on the deck stats. After the first day, the deck was 2-3 and at about rank 800. I didn't have time to change the deck, so I left it for a few hours, and when I came home, to my utter amazement, the deck was ranked at about 370, but nothing in the rating or win/loss had changed. I posted in the Q&A thread, but nobody seemed to know what happened for sure. Anyway, something bizarre happened in the arena, but I don't know exactly what, and probably never will.
Today's card is graviton mercenary.
Post by: TribalTrouble on November 19, 2013, 09:41:30 pm
Post by: dragonsdemesne on November 20, 2013, 06:00:16 am
185hp, 60 wisdom, 2x card draw, 3x mark
Oracle Card: GRAVITON MERCENARY
wins: 2 losses: 3 rank: >500 Rating: -92 age: 1
0/2 thumbs up
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I did deliberately make this deck rareless, but other than that, I didn't really have anything specific in mind as a goal, other than to be able to beat pdials due to purifies. I just tried to do something I thought was a little unusual.
Today's card is titan. I really don't like getting weapons; it's often very hard to come up with something creative. You're already pretty much limited to some sort of flying weapon deck, and then people think oh, I've seen this one before... :p Ah, well, I'll try and do something at least slightly interesting. No catatitans or monogravity SoFo control or anything.
Post by: Laxadarap on November 20, 2013, 02:33:08 pm
Post by: TribalTrouble on November 20, 2013, 10:21:41 pm
Post by: dragonsdemesne on November 23, 2013, 05:02:29 pm
Oracle Card: TITAN
wins: 21 losses: 8 rank: >500 Rating: -133 age: 4
10/21 thumbs up
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Pretty good thumbs up ratio for this deck. Remarkably, I can't ever recall seeing the idea done in the arena before, which is of course why I did it. Overdriven titans/massives is pretty basic, but then, just as the opponent might be wondering, did he pick that air mark by accident... BAM! Sky blitz. I included lots of blitzes just to be sure one was ready. Being able to pull that blitz out just before the opponent is ready for it would be key against sundials or shards of sacrifice, and it also makes the deck that crucial turn or two faster to try and overwhelm a stall or outrush a rush.
Today's card is immolation. The rainbow nature of that should allow for some interesting creative ideas, although it does limit the deck somewhat due to the reliance on fire, as well as the immobait itself. Still, I think I should be able to come up with something pretty cool.
Post by: Submachine on November 23, 2013, 05:06:22 pm
Post by: dragonsdemesne on November 23, 2013, 05:20:12 pm
Those are my decks from last season's BL, including "the deck". For this season's.... you'll have to wait a bit :) Although, in the case of 'the deck', it's only changed by a few cards, if that.
Post by: dragonsdemesne on November 24, 2013, 02:56:29 pm
Oracle Card: IMMOLATION
wins: 5 losses: 4 rank: >500 Rating: -106 age: 1
1/5 thumbs up (4 of you suck)
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This deck felt like sheer genius when I built it :p I knew it wouldn't get very far, but man, I thought it would get loads of thumbs ups if it could actually win any games. Silly people...
Today's card is antlion. I think I did fractal antlion once before, so it will have to be something else...
Post by: antiaverage on November 25, 2013, 02:58:15 am
Post by: Higurashi on November 25, 2013, 03:09:50 am
I'm inclined to agree. Good design and if it works well matters when I'm voting up or down.
Post by: dragonsdemesne on November 25, 2013, 05:46:37 am
Post by: dragonsdemesne on December 01, 2013, 07:42:55 pm
Oracle Card: ANTLION
wins: 51 losses: 13 rank: >500 Rating: -93 age: 7
19/51 thumbs up
This deck did quite a bit better than I thought it would. If I were playing Magic: the Gathering, I'd call it something like monoearth stompy. The shards of integrity were used essentially as cheap weenies, whether played one at a time, or several stacked all at once; the attack value is the same, or at least I think it was. (though obviously the quanta cost is cheaper when a six shard golem is played, rather than six one shard golems) I suspect it lost some thumbs ups because of the quicksands; I know at least in my experience, it's one of the cards I most hate going up against in the arena. Considering the deck wasn't actually all that creative, it did fairly reasonably in terms of thumbs ups. I've done similar low quanta builds in a few other elements; I know I did a death one using skeletons and poison and stuff like that, and it did fairly well. I think I've done it in darkness as well, using pests as quanta sources. It should be possible in fire as well, doing things like brimstone eater, minor phoenix, fire spectre, and so on; in fact, the next time I get one of those cards in fire, that's what I'm doing :p I like that...
Anyway, today's card is gnome gemfinder. I could just put exactly the same deck up again, but I'm going to think up a new idea. I'm not sure what, yet. Maybe I'll roll a dice to see what duo I should make.
Post by: TribalTrouble on December 02, 2013, 03:13:07 am
Post by: dragonsdemesne on December 09, 2013, 02:08:31 pm
Oracle Card: GNOME GEMFINDER
wins: 60 losses: 12 rank: 431 Rating: -56 age: 8
17/60 thumbs up
I knew people probably wouldn't like this deck very much. However, since I did run it slightly differently than most pest decks, I hoped that it would be slightly more popular. I think it actually was more popular than most monodarks, but it still didn't get too many thumbs ups. I chose gargoyles over vampires, even though vampire is probably better in this deck, because it synergizes more with the gemfinders making earth quanta. I also tried to use as little quanta as possible, much as my arena deck last week did.
Today's card is fire spectre. As I mentioned last week, I was saying how I think it would be possible to make a deck themed much like this one and last week's, only in fire, if I were to get something like ash eater or fire spectre, and the oracle has seen fit to let me test this theory out. That's why I took the deck down before it dropped out of the top 500, that, and the fact it's only at 1hp anyway, and there isn't anything worth farming out of it.
Post by: antiaverage on December 09, 2013, 09:25:10 pm
Post by: TribalTrouble on December 09, 2013, 10:00:35 pm
Did you ever get a chance to try out http://dek.im/arena ?Did you not see the deck code underneath the decks recently? ::)
Post by: dragonsdemesne on December 10, 2013, 12:36:10 am
Post by: antiaverage on December 10, 2013, 02:38:05 am
Yeah, I've used it the last couple times to generate the deck code, rather than use Paint and an image host.
Awesome! Is it working well for you? Any suggestions or requests?
Post by: dragonsdemesne on December 10, 2013, 03:49:30 am
Post by: antiaverage on December 10, 2013, 04:17:41 pm
One thing that would be really cool would be if it included the quanta index calculation, especially if it took the double or triple mark into account. (and double draw, though I'm not sure if anyone's ever worked out how that would affect it, or if it even would; I'd have to think about that...)
True, we do need an updated QI calculator. It would probably be a separate tool, but needs to be done. I don't think any of the current QI tools understand the new shards, and none have ever taken multi-marks into account. I should probably start a thread about this and get feedback on a proper formula.
Post by: dragonsdemesne on December 17, 2013, 12:31:37 am
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Okay... holy crap, antiaverage, that tool is good :p I was expecting to have to fill out the table with all my own info, but then I checked with my arena deck and it somehow figured it all out :D I didn't have to do dick all except copy/paste one line of text. It's a little wider than I was hoping it would be, but otherwise it's freaking awesome. It doesn't have a thumbs up calculator, but between four different leagues and possible top ten bonuses, that's not really possible to calculate anyway.
Anyway, as to the deck, I went along the same theme as the last two, the dark/earth weenie and the monoearth weenie. All three had quanta generating creatures and very low quanta demands on the deck, so more nonquanta cards were able to be used, as long as they were low cost. All three had roughly the same thumbs up ratios, so regardless of element, the decks were roughly equally well-received. (or in this case, not particularly well received) The holy flashes were mostly just to be silly, although they did also give a deck that has no business healing the ability to do so, as well as a way around shard of sacrifice.
Today's card is thorn carapace. I'll probably have to make a large deck in order to dilute the ten shields. I'm going to run some sort of fat adrenastaves deck, and use lots of rares so it will be a pseudofarm as well. I'll probably try and splash some other element in just to make it interesting.
Post by: antiaverage on December 17, 2013, 06:30:06 pm
It's a little wider than I was hoping it would be
I feel the same way. I'm not how to improve it, though. Any thoughts on a better layout are appreciated, and I can easily implement just about anything.
It doesn't have a thumbs up calculator, but between four different leagues and possible top ten bonuses, that's not really possible to calculate anyway.
I considered this, but it can get very tricky if your deck breaches the top 10. However, since that's so rare, maybe I should just stick it in there with a caution note to the end user...
Post by: dragonsdemesne on December 17, 2013, 07:18:38 pm
Post by: antiaverage on December 17, 2013, 08:24:59 pm
I'll try to figure out how to change the table layout for the next post. If I can find something I like, I'll post that version, but otherwise I'll probably just reuse yours.
Cool, I'll probably take another crack at it at some point.
Post by: dragonsdemesne on December 19, 2013, 12:27:34 am
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0/3 thumbs up
@antiaverage: How does this look for display? It's all the same stuff, just in a different place, so it doesn't create a left/right scrollbar because it's so wide. (if I stretch my browser window to the max, the scrollbar disappears even on your layout, but I always have my browser smaller than maximum so that I can see other windows, my desktop, etc, behind it)
So, apparently I forgot to add the animate weapons... :p This might have done a little better had I not made that goof. Anyway, it was -supposed- to be adrenastaves with shard of patience. Since I needed water quanta, but wanted a life mark for the shards of gratitude, I figured I might as well add some octopi as well. Unfortunately, the deck probably got a lot of clogged hands without the AWs, since it would have gotten clogged with carapaces as well as the staffs. It also probably meant that the deck looked less cool than it was supposed to be, leading to the 0 thumbs ups, since it probably just looked like a really bad mitosquid stall.
Today's card is ice shield. Same problem, different shield. I think I'll do something with shockwaves for the potential instagibs, but beyond that, I'm not sure what I'll do, yet.
Post by: dragonsdemesne on December 21, 2013, 12:51:07 am
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3/11 thumbs up
Shields are nearly always tough ones to work with... I picked shockwaves because I wanted to freeze/instagib things, and I went with toadfish next because I think they're underused. The rest slowly fell into place as I just added whatever looked interesting.
Today's card is stone dragon. I've had that one a lot, doing a dragon catapult deck, a 500hp EM deck with creatures, and I think a monoearth as well, so I'm just about out of ideas for it. I'm not sure if I'll actually post a deck or if I'll just make a farm for tonight.
Post by: dawn to dusk on December 21, 2013, 01:05:30 am
not too sure if its been done but im sure it works
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This wasn't particularly inventive, but I've had stone dragon enough that I had a hard time thinking of something more clever than this. Today's card is short bow. I think I did a novabow with that and creature buffs once, and I might've done an air rush, but I'll check what I've done and choose accordingly.
Post by: antiaverage on December 23, 2013, 07:05:31 pm
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3/4 thumbs up
A little bit silly, but at least it's a new idea. 3/4 thumbs ups is nice, although a small sample size means it could be a fluke. I used the unupped flying weapon on purpose so that it wouldn't take away from light/aether quanta, since the triple mark is going to make way more than enough air quanta for the sky blitz.
Today's card is morning star. Unfortunately, that's going to be an extremely hard one to be creative with. It'll necessitate using animate weapon, and decks like monolight stall or SoW/glory or glory/SoFr are so overdone that they'll be thumbed down immediately. I'll try to come up with something clever, but it's going to be really hard.
Post by: Dunkelheit on December 23, 2013, 09:19:37 pm
and it only drew a vamp in the last turn
hope it get's some more games cause it's something different from the standart morning star decks
Post by: antiaverage on December 24, 2013, 08:13:04 am
Let me know if it seems to be working okay. Here is a sample using my current arena deck:
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1/3 thumbs up, and it seems likely that was dunkelheit :p It didn't get far, but at least hopefully it was a pleasant change of pace from the rather narrow selection of morning glory decks usually seen.
Today's card is parallel universe. I spun a purple nymph yesterday, but I didn't bother building with it; since that was my 12th purple nymph, I can build arena decks with them whenever I want :p Not sure what I'll do with parallel universe; I've done PU-dragons, and quite a few other decks, besides, but I'll try to find something.
Post by: Submachine on December 25, 2013, 02:13:31 pm
1/3 thumbs up, and it seems likely that was dunkelheit :p It didn't get far, but at least hopefully it was a pleasant change of pace from the rather narrow selection of morning glory decks usually seen.
It couldn't be dunkelheit, because he won against it. :P
Post by: dragonsdemesne on December 27, 2013, 05:49:24 am
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I was hoping this would at least get thumbs ups; I didn't think it would do very well, given the AI's tendency to save TUs for an OTK. But hey, at least I didn't use pests :p
Today's card is burning pillar. I'll build a deck around that, but since it's just over an hour to the next oracle, I might change if I get something really cool and inspiring.
edit: Pretty sure people will hate this one :p But it's an interesting proof of concept (or lack thereof) to see how it does. 6 firebolt 6 SoB, 3 fahrenheit, 20 quanta. edit: spun chimera, so this deck stays up. sorry...
Post by: TribalTrouble on December 27, 2013, 06:26:49 pm
Post by: serprex on December 27, 2013, 06:49:17 pm
Post by: dragonsdemesne on January 04, 2014, 01:36:41 am
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Not bad for a deck that only has three different nonquanta cards, I suppose :p Sorry it wasn't more creative, but at least it was rather amusing. Surprisingly, it still got 14/39 thumbs ups, which isn't great, but it isn't terrible, either. Today's card is chaos seed. There's quite a few options with that one, so I'll try to do something extra fun, since this one was rather dull. edit: also, this deck made it to 8 days, so yay :p
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I figured this should be fairly high on the creativity end, but I really didn't expect it to win as many games as it did. It was hardly an overpowered deck, but I didn't expect it to last more than a day or maybe two if I was lucky. I'm hoping that the AI would chaos power the flying daggers and then endow them; whether it managed to do this correctly or not, I have no idea. I was hoping that because of the way I designed the quanta (novas + 3x light mark) that it would do it in the correct order simply because with two novas to start it would ideally play a flying dagger and chaos power it before it even had the quanta to cast crusader, and once the AI starts buffing one creature, it usually will keep buffing the same one again and again, because it sees it as 'the best creature' it's got.
Today's card is luciferin, which gives me several interesting options with the 'other' quanta cost. Unfortunately, it's also a card I've had quite a few times, so it's getting tougher and tougher to find something unique to do with it.
Post by: Dunkelheit on January 08, 2014, 01:16:56 am
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Twinned adrenapsions! With healing! I tested one game against it, and found, as usual, that the AI is awfully stupid holding onto parallel universe, so it probably didn't do nearly as well as it should have.
Today's card is pharaoh. I don't think I've built around that one, before, so I'll try to do something extra cool. I remember seeing a darkness mark pharaoh deck up at #1 in the arena once and wondering what it was... maybe I'll try that, or something even stranger!
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I know that I only had it up for a few hours, but I spun black nymph tonight, and I want to do spell-less liquid antimatter again :p I normally don't repeat decks, but I just -have- to for that one. How often do you see it? :p
Post by: Chapuz on January 12, 2014, 02:27:57 pm
As for LA, pack some healing. black nymph is good for dragons. If you don't, you may lose against PDials
Post by: Regyptic on January 12, 2014, 03:53:25 pm
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Twinned adrenapsions! With healing! I tested one game against it, and found, as usual, that the AI is awfully stupid holding onto parallel universe, so it probably didn't do nearly as well as it should have.
Today's card is pharaoh. I don't think I've built around that one, before, so I'll try to do something extra cool. I remember seeing a darkness mark pharaoh deck up at #1 in the arena once and wondering what it was... maybe I'll try that, or something even stranger!
I faced this with a 500HP deckout stall. I didn't even realise it had TUs in it until they came up in the spins. I'm sure I would have lost if the AI had been clever enough to play them. Fun deck though, I would have given it thumbs up.
Post by: Chapuz on January 12, 2014, 08:04:12 pm
Post by: Regyptic on January 12, 2014, 08:25:18 pm
a bit off topic, could you share your 500 HP deckout stall with me? :)I was using a slightly modified version of this (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/rainbow-decks/bripod's-500hp-em-deck-mod/) one bripod posted recently.
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This was the last version I tried: http://elementscommunity.org/forum/platinum-league-decks/the-dragon's-arena-decks/msg524983/#msg524983
It both did better and got more thumbs ups, which either is due to small sample size, or means that people hate discord (or cloak or nightmare) much more than they hate steal and vampire dagger. Oddly, I think that because of the triple entropy mark, the quanta base for the second one is actually better, but it did worse. Against Pdials, either the discord or the steal are very good, but today's version would have had a slight advantage against Swallow because of the cloaks, whereas Swallow would have probably owned the last version.
I haven't had a chance to respin the oracle, so I don't know what the next card is yet.
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I thought this one might do slightly better. I remember doing a couple different dragon decks with black hole off the mark (I think fire and air) and having them do quite well. Either the meta has changed, or this version is much worse, and I think both are the correct answer. There are too many creature buffs and not enough creatures; it was done that way mostly for style :p Holy flash was for either healing overdriven dragons or hopefully killing people who put SoSa up, but probably the AI just plays it on itself as soon as it takes 10 damage.
Today's card is ghost of the past. I won't do ghostmare and I won't do mitosis-SoR ghost. Beyond that... I'm not sure, yet.
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The deck got knocked out today, but I was too lazy to build a new deck. (I had hematite golem) I got Psion again today.
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Almost 50% thumbs ups... I guess that's pretty good :) I had been worried that there wouldn't be enough quanta, but the deck seems to have managed. The granite skins might have also clogged the hand, preventing fractal copies, but again, it won some games, so it must not have been that bad.
Today's card is hammer. There's really only so many things you can do with the other weapons, and I've already had them a couple times. I really have no idea what to do next...
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I'm pretty surprised this worked as well as it did. I was running out of gavel ideas, having spun it several times, but this struck me as a somewhat novel use for it. Hopefully vampiric golems would beat decks like Pdials, while the sheer size of the golems beat Swallow. The raw speed of the deck should have also made it fairly competitive against other fast decks. Somehow, though, I didn't think that it would last more than a day or two. I'm not really sure why... I guess I feared the AI would screw up, like playing SoI after SoV, or the gavels/tower shields before the elemental cards. (and maybe it did, but won anyway; I have no idea)
Today's card is devonian dragon. I'll put a deck up with that, but depending what I spin, I might take it down at midnight. Also, tourney/league codes have come in, so I've got a few more marks and another foil chimera. I've now got two fire/time/light/earth/entropy marks and one each of the rest.
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This one wasn't very popular, and I suppose I can see why; it's fairly simplistic. I just didn't really know what to do with devonian dragon :p Today's card is shrieker. That's an easy one to build a strong deck around, but it might be a lot more challenging to build a fun deck around.
*edit* With 11 thumbs up and a 31-2 record, the shrieker deck is rank 19, so it might not be possible to calculate thumbs ups if it gets a few more wins.
*edit* The shrieker deck is 36-2 and rank 9, so the thumbs up count will not be 100% accurate anymore.
Post by: Chapuz on January 29, 2014, 01:44:28 am
Post by: Submachine on January 29, 2014, 02:39:27 am
Post by: CrockettRocket on January 29, 2014, 02:44:35 am
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This deck spent some time in the top 10, so the thumbs up count is inaccurate. Very simple, basic deck this time. I'll bet I could have made it a lot better with some quicksands, but that would have really annoyed people :p
Today's card is thorn carapace. Shields like that are always tough... I might have to make a very large deck to dilute it, or I might make a farm :p
Post by: CrockettRocket on February 05, 2014, 07:23:54 pm
Post by: dragonsdemesne on February 06, 2014, 12:17:31 am
Elite Antlion, 60 card stoneskin/SoD/miracle stall 15-7
http://elementscommunity.org/forum/platinum-league-decks/the-dragon's-arena-decks/msg1007912/?topicseen#msg1007912
Stone Dragon, 40 card stoneskin/dragon/auburn + poseidon/icelance water duo 1-3
http://elementscommunity.org/forum/platinum-league-decks/the-dragon's-arena-decks/msg1116745/?topicseen#msg1116745
Stone Dragon, 39 card dragon/auburn+light nymph SoD/miracle 52-13
http://elementscommunity.org/forum/platinum-league-decks/the-dragon's-arena-decks/msg1108752/?topicseen#msg1108752
Post by: CrockettRocket on February 06, 2014, 02:30:03 am
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I took my inspiration for this deck from Dm1321's 'the mono', which is a 60 card monogravity deck. It did remarkably well for such a ridiculous idea, lasting seven days. That HP hit on the 7th day really doomed it, I think.
Today's card is flesh spider. I'll try doing BrandenC6's challenge for this one. I didn't for the last deck because I had already built it by the time he posted. So it will be a 38 card quartet without novas or immolations.
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Well, I figured this was a reasonably clever way to implement the first 'challenge' brandenc6 posted above. Unfortunately, it only earned a 4/12 thumbs up rating. I thought it was a rather interesting idea, myself, but apparently the public disagrees :p I haven't actually gotten a play on this deck in the last day or so, but it was in around 480-490 the last time I checked on it, so I had left it up. It's probably shifting up and down too much at that level, so I'm taking it down.
Today's card is soulcatcher. I'm not sure how to build a deckout deck around soulcatcher, so I'm skipping branden's 2nd challenge (for now) and moving straight to the 3rd one, a >=43 card quartet without nova, immo, or QT. I'm going to base it on a new league deck I built (which is actually only a duo) but then add soulcatchers and death cards, which should actually be fairly easy to do, in order to make a trio. To make it a quartet... I'm not sure what else I'll add, but I'm sure I can find something.
Post by: CrockettRocket on February 17, 2014, 12:38:57 am
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Well... that was a very short exercise in futility :p The black holes off the mark were simply to stall until the rest of the combo could be brought into play, namely fractaling balls/damsels and building up bonewalls and graveyards and condors, until the sky blitz could finish them off. I didn't expect much from the deck in terms of wins, but who the heck thumbed this down? This deck is so cool :p In any event, I'll have to wait a few hours before building the next challenge deck, since I need a new oracle spin to do so.
edit: spun immolation. Not sure how to do this: "The 2nd deck containing no less then 60 cards, quartet and no QT's, one that is made to specifically deck the opponent out." with immolation, but I like a challenge... :p
Post by: CrockettRocket on February 18, 2014, 08:13:52 pm
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Well, 4/6 thumbs ups is pretty good, even with a small sample size. I didn't think this would win any games at all, much like the soulcatcher one I just did. There are a lot of neat little synergies in this deck, though I suspect that the AI will miss most of them. I tried to think of something better to do with the fire quanta from immolation, but given the deckout restriction, firestorm and shard of bravery seemed the best options, although I could have gone with rage potions as well, I suppose. I figured six rays of light and a few skeletons aren't likely to kill anybody on their own, so I counted this as a deckout deck, since especially with shards of bravery, that is by far the most likely win condition.
Today's card is butterfly effect. I've had that card before, I think. I know once I basically threw it into a chaos wyrms mix, and I think I did something with shard of readiness another time. I'll try to find something clever and interesting to do with it. I rather like the idea of using fate eggs and SoR, and having eggs blow stuff up, but I think that might be too close to what I did before (I'll check). The idea of making a duo with darkness and using pests as BE targets is rather unorthodox as well, but quite likely to piss off a lot of people. (that deck might be less likely to be downrated if the oracle card was already pest, rather than choosing to use pest; I'll try to remember to do that if I spin devourer) In any event, I'll do what I always do, browse the cards until something stands out.
Post by: CrockettRocket on February 19, 2014, 09:07:44 pm
I love seemingly unorthodoxed stuff. Then it just all comes together in a surprising way is my play style.
#CacthPeopleOffGuard.
#Gotta'CatchEm'All!
Post by: dragonsdemesne on February 21, 2014, 12:24:38 am
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I started this build as BE salvagers, but it kind of degenerated into a fat DBH with nymphs after that. No real surprise it didn't earn any thumbs ups. Not much to say, really.
Today's card is dissipation shield. I'm toying with the idea of making an enormous 60 card deckout stall with tons of quantum towers, and a few other things like purify, protect artifact, and lobotomizer, to get around some of the counters to dissipation shield. (poison, PC, and momentum, in those cases) It's incredibly silly... but then, which of my decks aren't?
Post by: dragonsdemesne on February 23, 2014, 05:01:20 pm
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Honestly, people... this deserved thumbs ups :p I guarantee you've seen nothing like it before. Massive amounts of quanta for the diss fields, PA to keep them alive, mindgates for fun and to use the massive piles of quanta (and PAs for those, too), purifies to stop the poison that gets around the shield, and shards of bravery to both help draw the combo and deck the opponent out. (I know momentum/psion gets past this, too, but I basically ignored that, thinking it would rarely be used) In testing, I happened to use a 60 card stall deck, and I won when the AI mindgated and played sanctuary... but you can't make a deck that the AI will win with in all situations :p
Today's card is red nymph. Hooray! :) I'll check what I've done with that before (pretty sure voodoo and angels are on there) and go from there.
Post by: Submachine on February 23, 2014, 09:25:10 pm
Post by: dragonsdemesne on February 23, 2014, 09:38:46 pm
Post by: dragonsdemesne on February 25, 2014, 02:08:31 pm
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Heh, well, the first two people thumbed it up, as I mentioned yesterday, and the next eight thumbed it down. They're just jealous of the nymphs! :p (it couldn't be a hatred of shard of focus, could it...? naaaah.)
Today's card is time factory. Lots of freedom to work around that one; no idea what I'll do, yet.
Post by: CrockettRocket on February 25, 2014, 10:24:34 pm
Post by: dragonsdemesne on February 26, 2014, 12:00:44 am
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I built this, remembering how Laxadarap (I think it was him, anyway) told me about losing in 2 turns against a platinum version of this deck. Apparently I didn't get anything that cool hatched. (I'll edit this post once I know what the next oracle card is)
Post by: CrockettRocket on February 26, 2014, 04:00:00 am
EDIT: bluntly; I got confused. Anyway you know what I meant. I thought I was right because you replied as if I made sense, going back now I dont know how you thought I made sense and could form a reply.
Post by: CuCN on February 26, 2014, 04:04:50 am
Maybe it is you who should edit your post.
Post by: Submachine on February 26, 2014, 09:40:37 am
Post by: dawn to dusk on February 26, 2014, 09:43:29 am
It's easy to confuse these 2 nymphs by names. I don't even know what auburn and amber means, anyway...the names of all nymphs (other than queen) resemble colours. this means, that auburn and amber are also colours. what shade? good question
Post by: Submachine on February 26, 2014, 09:47:57 am
You may be right, but I think that at least Amber was named after something, just like the color Orange was named after oranges. So I just need to figure out what an amber is. :)It's easy to confuse these 2 nymphs by names. I don't even know what auburn and amber means, anyway...the names of all nymphs (other than queen) resemble colours. this means, that auburn and amber are also colours. what shade? good question
Post by: Zawadx on February 26, 2014, 09:49:26 am
It's easy to confuse these 2 nymphs by names. I don't even know what auburn and amber means, anyway...the names of all nymphs (other than queen) resemble colours. this means, that auburn and amber are also colours. what shade? good question
*points at colors of nymph backgrounds* Those ones are prolly about right for the colors.
Oh, and Amber is the sap of some types of trees which were sticky. Insects got trapped in them and they fossilized, and were found by people. Amber was used as jewellery in ancient times.
So Amber's basically fossilized tree sap.
Post by: Afdarenty on February 26, 2014, 09:51:18 am
Auburn
So yeah, similar to the nymphs. Thread hijacked :)
Post by: Laxadarap on February 27, 2014, 07:08:37 pm
I built this, remembering how Laxadarap (I think it was him, anyway) told me about losing in 2 turns against a platinum version of this deck. Apparently I didn't get anything that cool hatched. (I'll edit this post once I know what the next oracle card is)
I'm honored ;)
Post by: dragonsdemesne on February 27, 2014, 07:45:14 pm
I wasnt talking about BB... I was talking about sofo and auburn nymph from your last deck. Auburn is black hole not BB.. ;) I cant wait to see you edit your post now haha
EDIT: bluntly; I got confused. Anyway you know what I meant. I thought I was right because you replied as if I made sense, going back now I dont know how you thought I made sense and could form a reply.
I thought you had looked at the 'harem' in my signature and saw that I have 3 auburn nymphs (the real auburn one with BB :p) and so I thought you were asking why I didn't do a red nymph/auburn nymph deck to utilize rage pot + BB on your own creatures, and I replied that I didn't think the AI would do that, and even if it did, that it would be too slow. It didn't even occur to me that you were referring to the amber nymphs.
Post by: dragonsdemesne on February 28, 2014, 07:14:27 am
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This was not particularly creative, and it's neither doing well nor being favoured by the community, and the oracle decided to be very kind to me again, and gifted me with a nice blue nymph :) So I'll try to make a clever deck around that. I am going to base it on a deck someone has used against me in league play. (but I won't say who, in order to keep their strategy secret)
edit: If -anybody- thumbs down the deck I have up now... they should be shot, drawn and quartered, hung, and then fed to wild dogs. (in whichever order)
Post by: Submachine on February 28, 2014, 05:11:35 pm
Post by: CrockettRocket on February 28, 2014, 08:46:25 pm
Post by: dragonsdemesne on March 01, 2014, 01:00:38 am
Don't forget to change profile picture. 8)
Oh yeah :p I forgot, because I'd had Wheel of Fortune up for only like 4 days, it still seemed new. I'll put a new one up.
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Attention everyone! At high noon today, there will be a quadruple public execution. The crime: nonappreciation of an incredibly cool and pimp arena deck. Seriously, the awesomeness of this deck cannot be understated. When I saw the league deck that I loosely based this on, I thought it was one of the coolest league decks I'd ever seen. (my changes were adding SoW instead of quints, and using quint creatures and some of the other one-of cards, for more pimpness)
I don't have my next oracle card yet, and with this deck at rank 502, maybe it will even get bumped up and sneak in some more plays. We'll see... (fingers crossed for death nymph to get a double set of all nymphs!)
Post by: CrockettRocket on March 01, 2014, 04:40:33 am
Post by: dragonsdemesne on March 09, 2014, 08:17:06 am
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I figured this should earn points for creativity (it did) but I was stunned that it lasted eight days. I thought it wouldn't last more than a day or two at the most, since it seems like it should lose to common arena grinders (pdials beats it every time unless discord lands early, swallow beats it pretty much every time, for instance) but maybe I'm wrong... who knows? Anyway, it did far better than expected.
Today's card is momentum. I'll try to find something fun to do with that. Also, the latest batch of tourney codes came in, and I had a mark code from the plants vs zombies 2 tourney, so I took a mark of water in honour of the fact that I used water in I think every deck that day. It was a choice between earth/light/life/water, since those were the 4 elements plants could use, and then narrowed down to life/water, since I have doubles of earth/light already. I think I used water more than life that day, so I went with water, though I know I used life a lot as well.
Post by: Regyptic on March 09, 2014, 05:53:01 pm
...You had to use at least 5 life creatures in each deck so you must have used it in every game. But you definitely used water as well in both of the decks that you beat me with (and I think it was the water cards that were the deciding cards both times; Squid and then Trident).
Today's card is momentum. I'll try to find something fun to do with that. Also, the latest batch of tourney codes came in, and I had a mark code from the plants vs zombies 2 tourney, so I took a mark of water in honour of the fact that I used water in I think every deck that day. It was a choice between earth/light/life/water, since those were the 4 elements plants could use, and then narrowed down to life/water, since I have doubles of earth/light already. I think I used water more than life that day, so I went with water, though I know I used life a lot as well.
Post by: dragonsdemesne on March 09, 2014, 08:31:54 pm
Yeah, looking at my decks there, I should have actually picked a mark of life :p Oh, well; it's not that big a deal, since I'm spreading my marks out evenly anyway. I'm going to try and get two of each; after that, I'll either focus on a few, or do the same thing over again for three. If mark of chroma becomes available, I'll be focusing on those, though, because I like my fat rainbow decks :p
Post by: dragonsdemesne on March 16, 2014, 04:27:12 pm
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This wasn't particularly imaginative, but it seems to have been reasonably effective. Pretty hard to SoSa once you only have 57 max hp, though... :p Today's card is horned frog.
Post by: CrockettRocket on March 16, 2014, 06:50:33 pm
EDIT: Or does Bh heal while sosa is active?
Post by: dragonsdemesne on March 16, 2014, 09:03:07 pm
Post by: CrockettRocket on March 17, 2014, 03:53:23 am
Absolutely no idea :p I did notice that after posting the deck, but I didn't test it, so I have no idea.If you havent found out the answer yet by asking chat or testing, we should figure it out together in a PvP duel for if BH heals while sosa is active. :P Then tomarrow, as a challenge for us both we must include 12 sosacs and 12 black holes in 35 card decks and see what the hell the AI does, cant be rush decks though because the combo might not come out. I just put my arena deck up today, same as you, so we will probably have to cut it short. :(
EDIT: We must keep it 12 sosacs and 12 BH even when we find out the answer, no matter the answer. This could be a suicidal expireament. Best way for ai to play BH under sosac is death pends of course.
Post by: dragonsdemesne on March 17, 2014, 03:57:43 am
Post by: CrockettRocket on March 17, 2014, 04:01:40 am
EDIT: My arena deck: 11 death pendalums, 6 sosacs, 6 black holes, 9 darkness pillars, 4 black dragons, 6 devourers, 3 nightfalls. +Oracle card voodoo doll.
2ND EDIT: Probably will change the death pends to pillars and add more death cards, BH can be spammed off mark.
Post by: dragonsdemesne on March 23, 2014, 04:12:46 pm
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I wasn't feeling particularly inventive for this one, and all I did was a giant monolife stall deck. I'm surprised it did as well as it did, or that it managed 13/35 thumbs ups, given how boring it likely was. I spun emerald pillar today, so I could do basically the same thing... but I won't :p I've got a rather interesting idea I'm going to try, based on a deck I've seen in CL lately... but modified.
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I guess this one wasn't quite fast enough. I suppose it does lose to pdials, swallow, and rol/hope. Ah, well... such is life in the arena. Today's card is catapult. I've had that one a few times before, and it's tough to find something inventive to do with it. I'll try to come up with something, otherwise it'll be a farm.
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Admittedly, this was an extremely simple and obvious idea, but it's still one I very rarely see done, so I am fairly surprised that it got 0/5 thumbs up. I suppose not everyone appreciates the same types of decks I do.
Today's card is gravity pendulum. I'm not sure what I'll do with that, but I'm going to try and do something really unusual. For some reason, graviton guard is speaking to me right now... I'm going to try and base a deck around it somehow.
Post by: dragonsdemesne on March 27, 2014, 11:08:28 pm
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A rather weak stall, based on the surprisingly durable graviton guards for attack. It did not do well at all, but at least the one person it beat appreciated it. Today's card is fire pendulum. I'm going to do a spin on something I did once accidentally before. I'm building a steam machine/red nymph deck with purify, but I'm also adding shard of patience and holy flash for more healing/hps on my creatures, so that they can keep raging and raging and raging... :)
Post by: dragonsdemesne on April 02, 2014, 10:12:20 pm
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Steam machines! I love them... :p I figured a rather evil combination of red nymph rage potion every turn, along with purify, shard of patience, and holy flash to keep the steamies healing would be rather fun. It doesn't seem to have impressed too many people, though; most of my decks have been getting around this sort of thumbs up ratio lately. It almost doesn't seem to matter what I do, I get roughly the same rate of thumbs ups. This might suggest that most people are just automatically giving the same thumb up/down to virtually everybody, unless a deck is extremely innovative. (or annoying, in the opposite case) I know for myself I very, very rarely give anyone thumbs ups, and any decks I do give one to really deserved it.
Today's card is guardian angel. I could try and go with the red nymph thing, but I think I might try something completely different... not sure if this will work, but I don't think I've seen it done before, at least.
Post by: Submachine on April 03, 2014, 10:15:13 am
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Only 7 wins, but 4/7 thumbs up is a pretty darned good ratio. The deck was 6-1 when I went to work this morning, so I thought it would do as well today, but it didn't. Today's card is plague, and I don't think I've actually ever built around that card before, so this should be interesting.
Post by: CrockettRocket on April 05, 2014, 02:43:22 pm
Post by: CrockettRocket on April 07, 2014, 10:51:21 pm
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Rather boring, I know... but I don't think most people do this with 60 cards, or miracles, or plagues, or graveyards, so it was at least slightly different. It did get more thumbs ups than I was expecting somehow. Spun freeze today from the oracle.
edit: Freeze deck is at 26-1 and rank 10, so thumbs up count might be wrong if it wins any more. Only 8/26 thumbs ups. I used mark of darkness... see if you can guess what I did :p
Post by: CrockettRocket on April 14, 2014, 05:05:05 pm
Post by: dawn to dusk on April 16, 2014, 05:50:44 am
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I wasn't sure how this one would perform, but it definitely did better than expected. The highest I can remember seeing it was rank 10. My reasoning behind the design of the deck was that shard of patience would build up the creatures to lethal levels faster if shard of the void were also taking off hps from the player. There are much better ways to build either a SoP stall or a SoV deck, but I decided to combine them and find out what the result would be. Apparently it's fairly good. It even made it to 9 days, not just 8, but mostly because it only got like 3 plays on day 8, and it was somewhere like rank 50-100 after day 7; it didn't get any wins at 1hp, it was just a low number of plays on days 8-9.
Today's card is schrodinger's cat. This could be interesting... I'm going to check some of my previous decks and see what I've done in the past, and go from there. I might try a graveyard/SoP trio, but I'm pretty sure I've done that before. I could maybe try a mutation deck, but I'm not sure if the AI will mutate cats. Anyway, I'll come up with something...
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I thought I had done a deck or two like this one before, but the search function said otherwise, so here it is. It's probably not balanced properly quantawise; I just threw it together in a few seconds. Today's card is pharaoh; I'll see if I can find something interesting to do with that one.
Post by: dragonsdemesne on April 24, 2014, 04:28:35 am
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I'm actually rather proud of this idea. Pharaohs and late game scarabs have lots of hp, and so the red nymphs can pump them to quite high attack values, in addition to serving as fairly useful CC. Fire shield combos both with scarab devour and rage potion, and shards of readiness are good on everything in the deck. A pair of explosions for good measure, and deck complete. Unfortunately, I suspect that it suffered heavy losses to Pdials and Swallow, but whatever. I thought this would get even more thumbs ups than it did, although I suppose 3/7 isn't bad. I'll blame the small sample size... and the four of you who downvoted it! Today's card is drain life. I won't do monodark; beyond that, no promises. I'll try to make an unusual duo, or even trio, if I can think of a good one.
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Awww.... nobody liked adrenavamps :p I thought this would be a fun non-devourer way to use siphon life, but it seems it wasn't. I've got immolation today; I'd like to do a death/fire duo, but the AI is really bad at playing things in the wrong order there. For instance, it will do stuff like photon, cremate photon, play fire creature, and -then- play soul catchers... In any event, I'll see what I can find. I once did a rather interesting immolation/schrodinger's cat deck in league when both my opponent and I agreed to use 6 cats in every deck. Again, unfortunately with the AIs failure to play soulcatchers and other similar cards in the right order, I'm not sure how well it will work. I'll see if I can think of something cooler, though.
edit: I was really lazy so I just put up a relic farm with immolation. The card I'll be building around now is entropy pendulum.
Post by: CrockettRocket on April 26, 2014, 06:18:29 pm
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I tried to make this as AI friendly as possible :p Unupped photons to hopefully get the AI to actually play mutations, and then TUs to twin any cool mutants, as well as some cheap counters to some of the more common problems faced in platinum. I'd like to think people would have voted for this deck had it won any games. Today's card is pulverizer, and I've had that one as my oracle card a lot of times. I think I've done EQ/BH stalls, SoR pulverizers, overdriven pulverizers, TU pulverizers. I think I did rage pot pulverizers once as well. I have no idea what's left... it might be another farm again. Most likely it will at least be a really easy deck to beat if I have to make it something really silly :p
edit: There were a few more than this, but the images were gone from the hosting sites.
http://elementscommunity.org/forum/platinum-league-decks/the-dragon's-arena-decks/msg1079049/?topicseen#msg1079049 (EQ/BH)
http://elementscommunity.org/forum/platinum-league-decks/the-dragon's-arena-decks/msg1106754/?topicseen#msg1106754 (SoW pulvy)
http://elementscommunity.org/forum/platinum-league-decks/the-dragon's-arena-decks/msg1017346/?topicseen#msg1017346 (rage/SoR pulvy, with the old 'other' shards)
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Hmm... well I thought this deck was pretty cool, anyway. On day 0 it went 1-1, and it got a thumbs up, so I figured that maybe it would be appreciated. Nobody else liked it after that, though :p I suppose some people might not have seen the whole deck and realized how cool it was, and others might've simply just hated the shard of focus. I'm actually pretty surprised it got as many wins as it did as a trio, especially as I didn't think I'd done the quanta very well. Hopefully I can do something more appreciated with the time factory I spun today. I'm thinking I'll do a monotime stompy style deck. I've done that before with a few other elements; I'll link some examples if I can find them in my history, to use as an example of what I mean. (it's a term from magic: the gathering, for a deck using low mana, or in this game, quanta, and lots of cheap little creatures and spells)
monoearth stompy: http://elementscommunity.org/forum/platinum-league-decks/the-dragon's-arena-decks/msg1112896/?topicseen#msg1112896
monofire stompy: http://elementscommunity.org/forum/platinum-league-decks/the-dragon's-arena-decks/msg1115750/?topicseen#msg1115750
darkness/earth stompy: http://elementscommunity.org/forum/platinum-league-decks/the-dragon's-arena-decks/msg1114210/#msg1114210
Post by: dragonsdemesne on April 29, 2014, 11:20:55 pm
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Seriously? No thumbs up for this? Shame on you! For your crimes against the Dragon, I shall use my oracle spun card of pulverizer (yes, again... and I complained about it when I had it a few days ago) to build a total asshole earthquake/black hole thing. With novas. For purify and rewind and nightmare and... actually, maybe that counts as unique after all :p
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Novapulverizerbow! If you hated that... you'll probably hate whatever I put up next :p I spun earthquake today from the oracle. I can't speak for anyone else, but earthquake is one of the cards that annoys me the most.
Post by: Chapuz on May 01, 2014, 11:05:45 pm
Post by: dragonsdemesne on May 02, 2014, 04:29:38 am
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I know I've done similar decks before, but I don't think I did it with earthquake yet. I deliberately tried to make it as farm-like as possible, without actually making it a farm, so I used lots of rares and nymphs. (else I'd probably have included sanctuaries, and maybe sundials, though dials interfere with the nymphs slightly) Today's card is hematite golem. I've done a few decks with that before, and I'll try to find something new. It's a deceptively strong card, so I might be able to find something clever that can still win games.
Post by: dragonsdemesne on May 12, 2014, 11:28:39 pm
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Wow, look at that thumbs up ratio :) 55% :D And that's with a whole bunch of denial, which people usually hate. Too bad it only averaged 4 plays/day over the week it was active. I'd been trying to think of something unique to do with steel golems, and I figured earth/entropy is an odd duo, and then I went with chaos powers off the mark. Added quicksands/discords to stall long enough for the golems to do their thing, and then, realizing the deck would be overproducing entropy, threw in a few antimatters to use that up. Holy flash pretty much just for lols, but I thought maybe it would catch some SoSa players offguard. I know if I were playing Pdials or something, I sure as heck wouldn't expect to be owned by a holy flash in a deck like this.
Today's card is ice dragon. I'm not sure what I'll do with that one, but I might actually try something quite a bit like the deck you see above. Chaos powers off the mark, to protect the arctic dragons (with 5hp they are lightning vulnerable, for instance) and some discords/antimatters for stalling. Maybe some shards of patience, a few other water cards, and bam!
Post by: CrockettRocket on May 13, 2014, 01:46:06 am
Post by: CuCN on May 13, 2014, 01:58:16 am
Novapulverizerbow! If you hated that... you'll probably hate whatever I put up next :p I spun earthquake today from the oracle. I can't speak for anyone else, but earthquake is one of the cards that annoys me the most.
Wow, look at that thumbs up ratio :) 55% :D And that's with a whole bunch of denial, which people usually hate. Too bad it only averaged 4 plays/day over the week it was active. I'd been trying to think of something unique to do with steel golems, and I figured earth/entropy is an odd duo, and then I went with chaos powers off the mark. Added quicksands/discords to stall long enough for the golems to do their thing, and then, realizing the deck would be overproducing entropy, threw in a few antimatters to use that up. Holy flash pretty much just for lols, but I thought maybe it would catch some SoSa players offguard. I know if I were playing Pdials or something, I sure as heck wouldn't expect to be owned by a holy flash in a deck like this.
Today's card is ice dragon. I'm not sure what I'll do with that one, but I might actually try something quite a bit like the deck you see above. Chaos powers off the mark, to protect the arctic dragons (with 5hp they are lightning vulnerable, for instance) and some discords/antimatters for stalling. Maybe some shards of patience, a few other water cards, and bam!
Practically the same length.
Post by: CrockettRocket on May 13, 2014, 03:44:04 am
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15/36 thumbs up ratio is pretty nice, and lasting 8 days is nice as well. I took some inspiration from the last deck, but I decided to go with blessings rather than chaos powers, just to change it up a little. It was fun to add several cards I don't use that often (arctic dragon, pufferfish, blessing) and turn them into an arena deck that worked. I had also thought about using shard of divinity, but I didn't want to make the deck any bigger or cut anything. I spun obsidian pillar today, and I won't do one of those monodarks everyone hates; I'm not sure what I'll do yet, though.
In regards to the description length for the decks, it'll usually depend on how interesting/unusual the deck is to play, and how long it lasted, and how proud I was of the deck idea. I also don't usually do more than a few sentences because nobody really cares, anyway :p
Post by: CrockettRocket on May 21, 2014, 12:28:16 am
P.S. I got anubis and just put up a farm. 6 anubis, 6 sparks (quint spark ya know it!), 6 dim shields 6 mindgates rest pillars and it went 4-4.
Post by: dragonsdemesne on May 21, 2014, 11:20:16 pm
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I had a lot of fun building this one :) The original idea was chaos powered vampires, and it slowly evolved from there. I added werewolf next, and then eclipse... and then I got to thinking about a death trio, because of eclipse's buff to death. And that led to the extremely silly catcher/cat/death card module. I knew it wouldn't do particularly well (I beat it in testing with the unupped eternal phoenix counter I happened to have loaded at the time) but I knew it should be quite unique as well. Today's card is maxwell's demon. I think the last time I had that, I did maxwell + fireshield. This time, maybe I'll do maxwell + owl's eye or something like that. (assuming I haven't already; I'll do a quick search)
Post by: dragonsdemesne on May 24, 2014, 04:58:16 am
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After surprisingly going 8-0 the first day, I thought I had an unexpected winner, but then it was 10-2 after coming home from work this afternoon, and checking on it just now, it took three more losses this evening. I'm now unsure whether the fluke was winning a bunch at first or losing a bunch at the end, but given that I didn't expect much from this, I suspect that it was a fluke it got this far. 40% thumbs up is pretty decent, though. I built the deck around using Eagle's Eye to snipe stuff down into Maxwell's Demon paradox range, and went from there. Also note that maxwell's is airborne so it works with Sky Blitz/Shard of Freedom as well, as are all animated weapons. (discord through dimshields rawr!) Today's card is gnome gemfinder.
Post by: CrockettRocket on May 24, 2014, 02:13:27 pm
Post by: propheon on May 24, 2014, 02:16:12 pm
Post by: dawn to dusk on May 24, 2014, 10:49:03 pm
So yea, it's 40%
Post by: dragonsdemesne on May 27, 2014, 11:26:10 pm
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Absolutely epic thumbs up ratio on this one, 67% :) Grey nymph in immorush ftw! I had done something fairly similar once in a custom rules league match, where both sides agreed we had to use six schrodinger's cats. That deck was almost exactly like this one, except that I had an entropy mark and cats instead of the gnomes. (or maybe in addition to gnomes... I don't think I had some of the other stuff like purify, but whatever) I might have to do the immocat death deck for arena when I get a card appropriate to that. Today's card is emerald pillar, so I'll be looking for something else this time, though.
edit: I have no idea what I did right, but the emerald pillar deck I have up right now is up to a 9-1 record, which is respectable, but amazingly 8/9 of them so far are thumbs ups! Hopefully this ratio maintains itself; this would easily be my most popular deck if it does.
edit: Just came home from work, and the emerald pillar deck is now 26-2 and rank 10, with 9/26 thumbs ups, so I have no idea wtf is going on :p It got 8/9 thumbs up the first day, and then it got 1/17 the second day. If it gets any more wins, the thumbs up won't be able to be calculated anymore. I'm pretty surprised the deck is doing this well, though; I thought it might have quanta problems, being a trio, but apparently not. I also thought it would lose to Swallow, although it should own Pdials, but I can see it beating Swallow if my deck gets a near-ideal draw.
Post by: dragonsdemesne on June 04, 2014, 05:22:23 am
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Well, if I hadn't checked this tonight, I'd probably have checked in the morning and thought it made it to 8 days. Still, so close... The thumbs up ratio couldn't maintain the momentum of the first day, but it did still get a respectable 40% ratio, which considering how bad the second day was, that's pretty good.
I took FFQ/hope as a rough basis for my inspiration for this deck. Obviously, with upped FFQs, light cards are out of the question. However, I added the firestallish combo of fire buckler and feral bonds. The bonds are traditionally part of FFQ/hope, and have obvious synergy with all the spawned fireflies. The bucklers combined with the bonds then act much like buckler/sanc or buckler/SoG do in firestall, killing creatures while keeping your hp up. Some shards of freedom were added to protect the fireflies as well as bypass annoying dimshields or the like. Eagle's eyes and red nymphs for CC (as well as rage buff on the queens and nymphs), green nymphs for adrenaline, giving more hitting power and more quanta when played on fireflies/damselflies, and then blue nymphs to help bypass stall decks with unstable gases. Two explosions for PC (enough to be useful but not so many as to piss people off) and one sky blitz for a finisher (I like having exactly one sky blitz in a lot of air creature decks; just having the possibility of it raises all kinds of potential threats, and sometimes you can get a really big finish with it that you couldn't possibly have gotten otherwise) Two of each nymph seemed a good balance between QI, having variety of cards, and not just winning off of nymphs. (plus, I only have two air nymphs to use, though I do have more of the life/fire ones, but I think they'd just have clogged the hand had I added more)
I was pretty proud of this deck. It takes a bunch of cool ideas and merges them all into one deck in such a way that while it bears a strong resemblance to many other decks (FFQ/hope, firestall, UG stall), yet it's none of these, but something new, or at least new to me. Today's card is rustler, and I hope that I can find something as cool to do with that as I did with this deck.
Post by: iDaire on June 04, 2014, 12:20:37 pm
4 thumbs up, 6 down.4 divided by 6 is 66.67%
So yea, it's 40%
Math. Can't go wrong.
Post by: Zawadx on June 04, 2014, 12:27:05 pm
4 thumbs up, 6 down.4 divided by 6 is 66.67%
So yea, it's 40%
Math. Can't go wrong.
/facepalm
Here, Thumbs Up Ratio will be how many of your total games were Thumbs Ups. So the formula = U/(U+D), where U is the no. of Thumbs Ups and D is the no. of thumbs downs. Basically U+D signifies total games played.
So here, the ratio is = 4/(4+6) = 4/10 = 40% :D
Post by: CrockettRocket on June 04, 2014, 05:16:14 pm
Post by: dragonsdemesne on June 05, 2014, 03:53:40 am
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I very loosely based the deck idea for this from a thread I made awhile ago: (the first deck, divine adrenastaves)
http://elementscommunity.org/forum/deck-compilations/'i-told-you-to-take-the-wizards-staff!'/
Obviously, there are a few changes, namely the leaf dragons and jade dragons and nymphs, but the rough concept is there. I'd hoped the deck would do a little better (it's probably an autowin vs pdials, for instance) but you can't win them all :) Today's card is water pendulum.
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There are only two words to describe flooded mitopatient squid: Cthulhu fhtagn.
Today's card is blue crawler.
Post by: Submachine on June 06, 2014, 10:51:22 am
There are only two words to describe flooded mitopatient squid: Cthulhu fhtagn.You made my day. Thank you.
Post by: Chapuz on June 06, 2014, 07:41:14 pm
Post by: dragonsdemesne on June 14, 2014, 06:31:49 pm
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Fairly decent thumbs up ratio on this one (roughly 3/8) although I thought it was even more creative than the ratings gave it credit for, because I've never seen this done before, and I even restrained myself from using shards of sacrifice :p Lots of little creatures to benefit from shard of patience, coupled with tons of activations off of physalia and toadfish as needed, and some bone walls for defense. I am quite surprised it lasted this long, though. (9 days!) I think on either day 1 or 2 it was something like top 20, until it took a few losses.
Today's card is pandemonium. I was thinking that the art kinda looks like some dude with a couple of soccer balls, but that might just be the World Cup :) I don't know if it's possible, but I'm going to try and make a world cup themed arena deck :p The first thing that comes to mind is ball lightning, because balls, but I don't know if I can do any better than that. We'll see... :)
Post by: dragonsdemesne on June 18, 2014, 11:28:45 pm
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6/7 thumbs ups... ;D I remember having problems with immocatcher in the past where the AI would play a creature, immolate it, and -then- play soulcatcher. When I built this deck, I figured it should be a lot harder for the AI to screw that sort of thing up; as long as it had all the cards in hand, it didn't matter what order they were played. I just realized looking at this that, other than the marks, there aren't any rares in the deck.
As promised, I tried to make a world cup themed deck here. Ball lightnings, because soccer balls. Pandemoniums, because art looks like a guy kicking a soccer ball. Graveyards, because Spain... :P
Today's card is Heal. I have an idea for this deck, one that isn't completely original, but one that I think with the elements I'm going to choose for it, is somewhat unique.
Post by: dragonsdemesne on June 20, 2014, 03:38:22 am
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A most disappointing performance, especially when one takes into account that the sole thumbs up was given by... me, and that I conceded the game right before I defeated it in order to do so :p (Luckily I was using shard of patience!) The basic concept was an earth/life take on the classic earth/light 'the immortal' deck. Today's card is stone dragon, which is a bit of a nuisance because I've had that a few times lately, I think. I did 'the immortal' with dragons one time, I know that for sure; I think I had one or two other similar decks as well. This one might be quite tough to find something interesting to do with.
Post by: CrockettRocket on June 21, 2014, 02:32:53 am
Post by: CuCN on June 21, 2014, 06:15:15 am
Post by: dragonsdemesne on June 22, 2014, 05:05:31 am
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I had no idea what to do with the umpteenth stone dragon, so I made a monoearth deck that had only creatures and quanta, and hoped that would be unique enough. I got dune scorpion today, which is a fairly narrow card, unfortunately. I do have a rather bizarre idea to try... hopefully someone will think it's unique :p
Post by: Chapuz on June 22, 2014, 05:23:23 am
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Thanks for the link, Chapuz. I'm not sure how this thread will help someone get rich, since that's not quite what I'm going for here, but if it helps anyone, that's rather the point of it, so I'm all for it.
I started this deck with the dune scorpion/shard of patience idea, and then went from there. Pharaohs and deja vus work well with shard of patience as well, and then nymphs are just cool. A few other control cards and the deck was done.
Today's card is drain life. I'll have to think of something clever, given the hatred of monodarkness. Also, I got to level 78 a few days ago, so my decks will have 190hp now.
Post by: dragonsdemesne on July 03, 2014, 02:03:44 pm
Oracle card: Siphon life
(60 cards, level 78, 190hp, max everthing else, deck mark darkness)
(20 wins 8 losses, 7/20 thumbs up. not sure how long the deck lasted; it's at 8 days now, but I know it dropped out at least a day or two ago, I just haven't bothered, since I'm not at home right now)
I tried to make a 12-bolt deck and used the shards to speed it up. Despite the fact that it would waste bolts in my one game testing before I left, it seemed to do pretty well. Today's card is lava golem.
edit: added deck image. Only other thing I wanted to add is I deliberately didn't use any shields or weapons, figuring that the 6x steals would be used on player's weapons/shields and overwrite them anyway.
Post by: dragonsdemesne on July 06, 2014, 01:49:32 am
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Almost 50% thumbs up is pretty nice. (45%) I suspect it comes from using heavy armour when it wasn't my oracle card :p It should be pretty obvious what I was going for here; it's quite straightforward. Growth + heavy armour = lots of chances to rage my own destroyers. Today's card is fahrenheit, and I have a rather interesting idea for that one, assuming that I haven't already done it.
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Today's card is dusk mantle.
Post by: ddevans96 on July 07, 2014, 04:15:06 am
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So I asked in chat after spinning dusk mantle what I should build as my arena deck. Someone, I think it was Dm1321, jokingly said 'DBH'. My reply was, well, they certainly won't expect DBH with five dead dusks... Then I thought, what if they -weren't- dead dusk shields... So behold! DBH dusk shield. It wasn't very popular, though. I thought perhaps the novelty of seeing a gravity mark next to dusk shield might earn it some thumbs up, and I think the idea was slightly original, but it was probably just too annoying. Plus, trios are so hard to quanta balance... ugh.
Today's card is light pendulum.
Post by: dragonsdemesne on July 18, 2014, 11:29:36 pm
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1/3 thumbs up ratio and eight days (I was too tired to make a new deck last night; it was below rank 500 day 9) on a deck I didn't think would make it past day 1 isn't bad at all. The deck is somewhat similar to chaos wyrms or related decks, except that it sacrifices the spell dodging of shard of freedom (except on fireflies) for miracles and hopes to give it greater potential in longer stallish games.
Today's card is dagger. I've had that one a few times before; I know I did a strange novabow with daggers and creature buffs, and I think I did a crusader/shard of patience/flying dagger deck once as well. I was thinking of doing something kind of like the 'zen' deck, mostly just as a shard farm, but that's been done a little too often as well. I'll try to find something amusing to do with the deck, but it might be pretty hard, and I might just end up posting a farm.
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This is a bit of a 'wtf' on several levels. Firstly, it somehow won its first eight games in a row, which greatly surprised me. Further still, it only managed to get one thumbs up in that time. (I mean really... SoP/SoFr dirk decks are that common?) And then, I just checked on the deck now, after it having been 8-1 this morning... and it's 8-5. Dreams... squashed. (It was also picked to showcase my 2nd mark of death from the most recent season of leagues) All the creatures were meant to synergize with one or both of the shard of freedom/patience. (dolls will delay opposing weapons due to SoP delaying the doll) I do realize only a few warden uses were possible, but that's also why I only included two of them. Today's card is time pendulum.
Post by: dragonsdemesne on July 27, 2014, 03:58:58 pm
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Draw ALL the cards! Golden nymphs are probably my favourite, and a deck like this is why. You just keep drawing and drawing, and hopefully just overwhelm the opponent with all those extra cards. The arena rating system was really screwed up this week, and this deck probably should've dropped out in the first couple days if it had been working right. (When I posted the deck, it was like rank 80 with a 0-0 win record...) I think somebody might've hacked the game and gone in and roflstomped platinum decks over and over, but that's just speculation. It would produce the strangeness in platinum ratings that occurred for those couple days, though.
Today's card is parasite. I don't think I've had that one in a really long time, or possibly even ever, so I'll try to build something extra cool for it!
Post by: CrockettRocket on July 28, 2014, 01:04:32 am
Post by: dragonsdemesne on July 29, 2014, 12:10:37 am
(http://i.imgur.com/SkqQUVn.jpg) (http://imgur.com/SkqQUVn)
Post by: kaempfer13 on July 29, 2014, 02:22:40 am
I think what this picture shows is mostly the fluctuation in rating gain per win as of recently (there was a short phase where you got 3times as much rating as you normally would per win).
Post by: dragonsdemesne on July 29, 2014, 04:13:54 am
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This was an interesting deck based on some heavy CC in darkness and death, followed by synergies with condor and graveyard to produce attackers, and then cloaks to protect the field. I'm quite surprised it did as well as it did, but I would have thought it would get more thumbs up than that. Today's card is chaos power.
edit: I should mention the skull bucklers, since they're an odd choice over bone wall in a heavy cc deck. My reasoning was that they worked better here by -creating- more death effects, rather than benefiting from death effects like bone wall does.
Post by: dragonsdemesne on August 10, 2014, 02:49:04 am
Post by: dragonsdemesne on August 10, 2014, 03:42:28 pm
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Wow... -really- good thumbs ups on this one. I can't recall ever seeing the idea before, despite it being so simple. Make an enormous charger, stall with black holes, and hopefully by the time they can do anything, they're dead. Originally I had two antimatters instead of discords in here, but when I was testing, the AI got really confused and antimattered its own forty-something attack charger for no reason at all. (I guess there was some sort of math overflow or other wackiness internally... I'd been using pdials against it, but I didn't have any shard of sacrifice active at the time; maybe it got confused somehow and thought I did have it active from an earlier turn) To prevent the AI from doing that again, I simply took them out.
Today's card is fog shield. Usually, when I get a shield without a timer (wings/dimshield) I make the deck large in order to dilute the fact that it has so many extra shields, and I'll probably do that here. I'm not sure what I'll do yet, but hopefully it will be as well-received as this one was.
Post by: CrockettRocket on August 11, 2014, 05:04:10 pm
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I'm pretty sure I did something like this once before, but it's a fun idea, and it seemed to be a good way to minimize the problems of having ten fogs in the deck. Not really much to say about the deck itself, as it is quite self-explanatory. The only thing I'll mention is that the red nymphs work well on buffing firefly queens, and green nymphs hit some good sweet spots for adrenaline on several creatures, and make extra fire quanta on the fireflies as well.
edit: Today's card is bone dragon.
Post by: Submachine on August 14, 2014, 12:21:47 am
Post by: dragonsdemesne on August 14, 2014, 03:36:35 am
Post by: Submachine on August 14, 2014, 02:25:56 pm
Post by: serprex on August 14, 2014, 02:30:58 pm
In reality you'll start with 1-2 of the 24 in your opening hand, & SoFr will quickly become a highly efficient draw
Post by: Submachine on August 14, 2014, 02:32:27 pm
Post by: serprex on August 14, 2014, 02:48:53 pm
Useful links:
http://stattrek.com/online-calculator/hypergeometric.aspx (chance of N copies in X cards)
http://deckulator.blogspot.ca/2010/11/building-sligh-deck.html (input x/12/3 0/1/1 for result of 24%)
Post by: dragonsdemesne on August 14, 2014, 07:11:33 pm
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I thought this was pretty clever, and used a lot of underutilized cards, but apparently not many people agreed with me. The deck has good rushing capabilities, but also has decent stall potential with lucihope and miracle, and has good stallbreaking measures with poison and shard of patience. It's like several decks in one, which is why I thought it was cool, but I guess not everyone else thought so. Today's card is butterfly effect.
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Voodoo butterflies! Who would have guessed? The deck actually had a really long winning streak the first few days, going something like 20-0, but it didn't last. Today's card is fog shield. (again... le sigh)
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50% thumbs up is pretty awesome :) Not too much to say about the deck, as it is quite simple. (scarabs have airborne) The lightning storms and eagle's eye were meant to synergize with scarab devour (which was usable with shard of readiness) to weaken creatures enough that they could be devoured. Then one sky blitz, because AI won't play it except to OTK.
Today's card is purple dragon. Not yet sure what I'll do with that one.
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I thought this would both do better than this, and get more thumbs ups. I guess I can't predict them all... ah, well. Today's card is red nymph (huzzah!)
Post by: dragonsdemesne on September 09, 2014, 11:12:27 pm
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Nymph arena decks are always fun... and not just because it means more nymphs for the harem :p They're often more unique when designed to be such because most people don't have access to five or six nymphs the way you get when you make an arena deck around it. This one's kind of got a bit of everything going on in it, too, which I think makes it more interesting. The thumbs ups didn't really agree, unfortunately.
Today's card is pharaoh. Dunno what I'll do with that one, yet. Recently I did a SoFr/Sky blitz deck with it when I got fog shield as my card, so it'll be something else. I think I did a red nymph deck once as well, to use rage on scarabs and pharaohs. Monotime isn't particularly exciting, but also remains a possibility. Maybe water for shard of patience? I don't think I've done that yet. Or... actually, I just had a -really- funny idea. I don't know if it can be made to work, but I'm sure as heck going to try...
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Sadly, 'cool deck' and 'good deck' often aren't used to describe the SAME deck. The one person who lost to it appreciated it, at least. I tried to pick cards that synergized well with the pharaohs, or were at least useful in filling any inherent weaknesses in the playstyle. Today's card is ice dragon; I'll look for something interesting, but dragons are hard to be creative with because there are twelve of them, and the good dragon ideas get spent twelve times as fast.
Post by: CrockettRocket on September 11, 2014, 02:31:47 am
EDIT:For ice dragon consider shard of wisdom to cover for ice dragons lower attack then most of the other dragons. Then maybe look for other synergies between water and aether.
Note: AI wont play wisdom on not immortal creatures. Might wanna throw in 2 immortals and some quints.
Post by: ddevans96 on September 11, 2014, 02:43:27 am
Post by: dragonsdemesne on September 11, 2014, 03:20:11 am
Post by: CrockettRocket on September 13, 2014, 03:18:33 am
Post by: dawn to dusk on September 13, 2014, 04:38:39 am
??? ice sheild blocks one, and has a lot better stalling mechanics then skull shield. I think its personal preference, and I prefer ice shield over skull shield.skull shield creates death effects while ice shield cant. also, the quanta needed is doubled (unupped, tripled upped)
Post by: dragonsdemesne on September 19, 2014, 12:26:34 pm
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Some random guest in chat gave me the idea for this deck when I asked what to do with ice dragon. He'd said skull bucklers, aflatoxin, and desiccation, and then I filled the rest out myself. Seems to have done fairly well on the thumbs up side, and lasted 8 days as well.
Today's card is armagio. I have a very silly idea I am going to do with this one... :)
Post by: CrockettRocket on September 19, 2014, 07:09:11 pm
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Mitoarmagiopult! Or mitosofopult or whatever needs to be done... Several silly concepts here. The green nymphs were perhaps the only odd choice, and I picked those because they worked fairly well with armagios, going from 2 to 8 damage, and with mitosis, that means that they'll have lots of targets to adrenaline, if all goes well.
Today's card is parasite.
Post by: CrockettRocket on September 21, 2014, 05:25:50 pm
Post by: dragonsdemesne on September 21, 2014, 08:22:22 pm
Post by: dawn to dusk on September 21, 2014, 08:28:40 pm
Post by: CrockettRocket on September 21, 2014, 08:54:15 pm
Regarding the water-death, what is the point of the nymphs? Ai doesn't target water pillars with NTIf that was true, then explain the FG's (jezebel's) mechanics...
Post by: CuCN on September 21, 2014, 09:09:29 pm
Jezebel targets the stack of water towers once, and then only uses NT on the quantum towers after that.Regarding the water-death, what is the point of the nymphs? Ai doesn't target water pillars with NTIf that was true, then explain the FG's (jezebel's) mechanics...
The AI will never use NT on a water pillar/pendulum if it has a nymph queen.
Post by: dragonsdemesne on September 22, 2014, 03:26:20 am
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Well dang, did people hate this or what... I guess it's the pests :p Sorry... Today's card is thunderstorm; I'll try to be more friendly this time!
Post by: CrockettRocket on September 25, 2014, 10:43:54 am
Post by: dragonsdemesne on October 03, 2014, 06:46:15 pm
win/loss: 20-7, thumbs ups: 6/20, age: 9 (this could be wrong by a couple days, since I haven't played elements since about Tue/Wed due to computer issues)
Deck contents: (60 cards, everything upgraded unless noted otherwise) (190hp, double draw, triple mark, max upgrades)
5x thunderstorm
6x flying weapon (deliberately unupped to use mark quanta)
21x amethyst tower
6x Maxwell's Demon
6x Amethyst Dragon
6x Discord
2x Sky Dragon
2x Sky Blitz
2x Improved Fog
4x Shard of Freedom
I was initially going for the synergy between thunderstorm and maxwell's demon. Since the AI is prone to just thunderstorm for pretty much no reason, I figured that at least with demons out, it might then kill something with paradox that way. Everything else pretty much got filled in around that. Today's card is forest spirit.
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Yeah, it's kind of an oraclebow, but I thought it was at least somewhat interesting. The masses seem not to agree, however. Due to computer issues, it's quite likely this deck didn't last anywhere near the 4 days listed above, but I wasn't able to check up on it. Today's card is aflatoxin. In honour of my computer being back up again, it's farm time!
edit: farm down, card is immolation now.
Post by: CrockettRocket on October 08, 2014, 09:22:34 pm
Post by: dragonsdemesne on October 11, 2014, 07:24:19 pm
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I thought this was quite a clever take on red nymph voodoo dolls, but everyone hated it. Lots of quanta generators in brimstones and pests, and shards of bravery help draw into everything to make it faster, which could be quite strong with cremations fueling it as well. (assuming the nine million cards you just gave your opponent don't let them just win :p) Ah, well... I should learn, pests in any deck, no matter how cool, end up being thumbed down. Today's card is electrum hourglass.
Post by: serprex on October 12, 2014, 01:08:08 am
Post by: CrockettRocket on October 12, 2014, 01:46:40 am
Post by: dragonsdemesne on October 12, 2014, 02:02:25 am
Post by: CrockettRocket on October 12, 2014, 03:07:57 am
Post by: dragonsdemesne on October 12, 2014, 04:24:16 pm
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Pretty much a standard monotime, chosen partially because I really like this deck in pvp (it's not super strong, but it's really fun) and because it's almost a farm with all the rares in it. Today's card is colossal dragon. Gravity... dragon... dragonsdemesne on team gravity in war... it must be the oracle saying we will win.
Post by: flyingcat on October 12, 2014, 10:29:42 pm
Post by: dragonsdemesne on October 13, 2014, 06:01:50 am
Post by: dragonsdemesne on October 19, 2014, 07:26:03 am
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The Mono needs no introduction. Its awesomeness speaks for itself. (In the unlikely event that you have never heard of The Mono, go pester dm1321 :p )
Today's card is life pendulum.
Post by: Chapuz on October 20, 2014, 05:48:48 pm
Post by: dragonsdemesne on October 22, 2014, 05:00:36 am
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Because gravity master element!!! (pls don't look at round 1 war record nonono bad idea do not do it) I got the idea for this in gravity's war archives from last war.
Today's card is purple dragon. Because gravity master element, this will be another gravity duo, or maybe trio, or something.
Post by: dragtom on October 22, 2014, 04:29:12 pm
Post by: dragonsdemesne on October 29, 2014, 11:52:57 pm
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Because GRAVITYMASTERRACEALLTIME. (well, with a little help...)
Today's card is flesh spider. It will also contain much gravitymasterrace.
edit: flesh spider gravity deck is 39-7 at 8 days, rank 22, and 19/39 thumbs up, almost half! gravitymasterrace.
Post by: dragonsdemesne on November 08, 2014, 07:17:49 am
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This deck was down after 9 days, not 10, but damn, still, that's a pretty nice showing. It got a ton of thumbs ups, and it even got a win on day 8, lol. It also proves that gravitymasterrace. Today's card is dusk shield. It will, of course, contain gravity.
Post by: CrockettRocket on November 08, 2014, 05:46:34 pm
Post by: CuCN on November 08, 2014, 05:55:37 pm
Post by: CrockettRocket on November 08, 2014, 06:04:13 pm
3x mark allows a recluse every turn or a bonewall after two turns. I would absolutely prefer the 3x mark rather than the 10 HP for that deck.The draw chances, with 9/40 cards (18/80) being death don't allow for a recluse every turn or bonewall every other turn. :P 2x mark allows him to play a recluse pretty much whenever he gets one after turn 4. With his deck being a stall, he probably had sh** tons of quanta left over.
Post by: dragonsdemesne on November 16, 2014, 09:44:01 pm
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Gravitymasterrace!!!!!!
Today's card is vampire dagger.
Post by: CrockettRocket on November 17, 2014, 01:13:00 am
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Denial and denial and removal and removal and gravitymasterraaaaaaace. Today's card is ice bolt.
Post by: CrockettRocket on November 25, 2014, 01:44:11 pm
Post by: dragonsdemesne on December 04, 2014, 12:43:22 am
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Not a bad thumbs up ratio on this one, close to 50%. I think the deck actually dropped out after 8 days, not 9, but I was too busy to check. I know it was still going at the beginning of the 8th day. Today's card is emerald pillar.
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We'll.... try again with mitosis today :p
Post by: flyingcat on December 04, 2014, 10:53:59 pm
Was there a reason for not adding animate weapon? Adrenastaves would work well.
Post by: dragonsdemesne on December 05, 2014, 01:47:30 am
Post by: dragonsdemesne on December 12, 2014, 11:58:07 pm
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This deck won at least one game at 1hp :) It will also be the last of the gravitymasterrace series, since gravity has sadly been eliminated from war. Today's card is minor vampire. I'm not sure what I'll do with it, but it will NOT be a gravity deck, because I'm tired of gravity now :p
Post by: CrockettRocket on December 13, 2014, 01:52:30 pm
Post by: dragonsdemesne on December 19, 2014, 12:43:49 am
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Vampire stall! With more crusaders for more vampires!
Today's card is firefly. I will challenge myself to make a trio that doesn't use unstable gas or blue nymph for this one.
Post by: dragonsdemesne on December 26, 2014, 08:21:50 pm
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Just LOOK at the thumbs up rating on this one! I haven't beaten 50% for quite a long time. (other than decks with like 1-2 wins before dropping out) I'm really quite surprised; even though I haven't seen anything quite like this deck before, I thought that it would probably be too annoying for people. I guess the novelty outpaced the annoyance factor. I tested a few games out against it, and it was really quite fast, and thanks to the triple mark and shards of bravery, silences were very easy to play.
Today's card is dissipation field. That's one I am not sure if I have ever built around, and rarely see in the arena, so I have a good chance to do something interesting here. It'll probably have to be a rainbow, so the most likely deck is a rainbow stall, or possibly a speedbow, but hopefully I can find something else. The only other possibility is to do a deliberately unupped monoentropy, but I don't think that can cut it in platinum.
edit: I just had an idea. I'm going to run shards of gratitude (because sanc screws with dissipation field) and protect artifact, to protect the fields and the shard stack. I will either do a life mark, or maybe a darkness mark and shards of void.
Post by: dragonsdemesne on December 29, 2014, 11:02:21 am
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I dunno... I thought it was a clever use of a lot of cards that don't usually see much use at all, much less together.
edit: today's card is aether pendulum.
Post by: dragonsdemesne on January 09, 2015, 12:08:10 am
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Another surprisingly well-received submission with over 50% thumbs ups :) It's dead simple, but it's effective. Fractal the brimstones, make tons of quanta, and bolts/fahren to death. I'm not sure if the AI ever tries to fractal fahrenheit, but that might weaken its effectiveness as an arena deck a bit. It did indeed last to 9 days; after 8, it was still in the rank 400s somewhere, so it wasn't me being lazy.
Today's card is forest spirit.
Post by: CuCN on January 09, 2015, 02:24:45 am
Post by: dragonsdemesne on January 17, 2015, 12:45:43 am
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Pretty sure nobody saw this trio coming... :p I basically spliced life into my 'the real neptune' league deck, which uses gnomes, wardens, squid, trident, and shard of patience to quickly grow an army, since over half of that deck is creatures. Here, the ratio isn't quite as high, but life lets me use bonds and nymphs and mitosis as well. Bonds give valuable healing against slower decks, and green nymph adrenaline means that even with shard of patience, some creatures can attack. (anything under 15 attack will hit at least once) Mitosis works well on gnomes or wardens since they're dirt cheap (or free!) but I'm not sure what the AI priority was.
Post by: dragonsdemesne on January 18, 2015, 04:13:48 am
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I used a random number generator to make a random trio, and this is the result. I didn't expect too much from it, but I thought it would be fun :) Today's card is permafrost shield.
Post by: CrockettRocket on January 19, 2015, 05:48:35 am
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My first thought with permafrost shield was shockwave instagibs. After that... I just threw stuff in as it came to me. Today's card is holy light.
Post by: dragonsdemesne on January 27, 2015, 12:26:21 am
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A bit of a cheat on this one, since it's basically ignoring my oracle card, but whenever I get a 0 cost card, I prefer to run it in a deck that uses it in a more unconventional way like this. Given that it has no CC at all other than gravity shield (AI will not use holy flash to damage something) and that it's full of denial, I am surprised that it even managed a 1/3 thumbs up ratio, and that it lasted 7 days. Today's card is bone dragon; it'll be hard to come up with something new for that, but who knows... it might happen!
Post by: CrockettRocket on January 27, 2015, 02:41:18 am
Post by: dragonsdemesne on January 29, 2015, 01:17:17 am
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I'd like to think this deck would have garnered a veritable crapton of thumbs ups. I think it's totally awesome, and would have thumbed it up in the arena, and I'm really stingy there. However, we will never know... Today's card is entropy pendulum.
Post by: CrockettRocket on January 29, 2015, 03:27:20 am
Post by: Faro on January 29, 2015, 10:10:37 am
Post by: dragonsdemesne on January 31, 2015, 11:13:58 pm
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Pseudo-relic farm, as well as something that's just cool. Chaos powers allow for more red nymph self-buffing, and butterfly effect works both on red nymph, as well as any opposing antimattered things that might get twinned by pandemonium. 50% thumbs ups is pretty good, as well. Today's card is immortal.
Post by: Chapuz on January 31, 2015, 11:18:06 pm
Post by: dragonsdemesne on January 31, 2015, 11:20:01 pm
Post by: dragonsdemesne on February 05, 2015, 07:11:56 am
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Not a particularly imaginative deck. I'm taking it down now because I spun GREY NYMPH just now. This means I now have two of every unupped nymph and mark now.
Post by: dragonsdemesne on February 13, 2015, 12:33:04 am
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A slight twist on the monodeath rush. Tower shields were used instead of skull bucklers because 1) blocks 2 damage instead of 1, 2) eclipse buffs enemy skeletons created by skull shield, 3) it is easier to play because there will be extra darkness quanta, 4) Nobody uses tower shield.
Today's card is unstable gas. I'll see what interesting deck I can come up with here. I'll check if I ever did the firestall/UG thing I thought about once, and if not, do that; if I have done that, I'll find something else. edit: I have done it, but the image is gone, because it was on imageshack before we had the modern arena tools.
Post by: CrockettRocket on February 13, 2015, 02:17:26 am
Post by: dragonsdemesne on February 15, 2015, 11:22:02 pm
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I didn't expect a lot of wins from this, but I did think it was rather an interesting idea, and am quite surprised that 0/3 people thumbed it up. Low sample size... (or at least I hope that's what it was!) Today's card is quintessence, which is unfortunately a rather boring card to build around. I do have one idea I'm going to try, though. (don't I always...)
Post by: CrockettRocket on February 16, 2015, 01:58:42 pm
Post by: dragonsdemesne on February 26, 2015, 12:46:47 am
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Simple, but effective. Effective enough that it snuck a few wins in even at 1hp, between dims and silences.
Today's card is water pillar.
Post by: dragonsdemesne on March 01, 2015, 04:34:27 am
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You don't get much simpler than this... :p Lots of nymphs, and a few support cards. I'm actually really surprised it got any wins, and glad that 50% thumbed it up. Today's card is crusader, which is unfortunately a bit narrow, but there are still some interesting possibilities with it.
edit: got distracted and didn't actually build a crusader deck. I'd intended to do a fahrenheit firestall thing. I spun deja vu just now.
Post by: dragonsdemesne on March 07, 2015, 10:57:37 pm
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This was just mostly silly :p Originally I'd intended it to have no targets for PC, so no weapons/shields were on purpose, but I forgot that when I put the shards in. My hope is that the AI managed to kill someone with a chaos powered egg or something like that. Today's card is sapphire charger.
Post by: dragonsdemesne on March 10, 2015, 11:33:11 pm
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Awhile ago I did a series of monodecks that relied on very low cost cards so that they needed very little quanta, particularly with a triple mark. I did darkness and fire and death ones for sure, and I think I did a few other elements as well. This is my attempt at a gravity version. It was not nearly as successful.
Today's card is steam machine.
Post by: dragonsdemesne on March 14, 2015, 08:48:23 pm
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7/12 thumbs ups on this one makes it a success :) Tried to go for some fairly unusual combinations all at once. Today's card is emerald pillar.
Post by: dragonsdemesne on March 24, 2015, 11:24:54 pm
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Twelve shards of divinity kept this silly thing alive far longer than it had any right to survive. A near-50% thumbs up rating is also nice. It got several wins at 1hp; I'm not sure exactly how many. I tested one game against it with pdials at 1hp and almost lost :p Today's card is otyugh.
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Whoops, straight down the toilet and out to the river. Hopefully those three people had fun, at least. Today's card is ice dragon.
Post by: dragonsdemesne on April 03, 2015, 07:27:41 am
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Well, I wish I could claim the deck made it this far based on skill, but it didn't actually get any plays for several days. Today's card is azure dragon. I'm not sure what I'll do yet, but I won't do an aether duo; I don't want it looking anything like this deck :p
Post by: dragonsdemesne on April 12, 2015, 04:49:37 pm
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Wow, this is the -lowest- thumbs up rating I've had in a long time. I guess people really hate monoair (or close to it, anyway). I'll try not to do that again.
Today's card is aflatoxin. I'm not sure how I can make successful use of that, but as usual, I'll give it a try.
Post by: dragonsdemesne on April 20, 2015, 11:27:13 pm
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Sorta pdials. But sancs instead of SoSa, and mirror shield to absorb the cells, as well as any bolts. And it was absolutely hated :p
Today's card is chaos seed, which gives quite a few options. I'll try to find the road less traveled :)
Post by: dragonsdemesne on April 28, 2015, 02:55:24 am
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This one wasn't a particularly popular deck, either. I had a few real good thumbs ups ratios in the last several decks, but now I'm not doing as well. Ah, well... can't win them all :p Today's card is stone dragon. It's getting really hard to do interesting decks with dragons, because there are so many of them, it feels like I've done everything there is to do with them already. Maybe I can find something new, but it will be difficult.
Post by: dragonsdemesne on May 04, 2015, 11:31:12 pm
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Hmm, not bad, 50% thumbs ups for a 60 card rainbow stall. I tried to build as many synergies and/or fun cards into it as possible, and the 50% thumbs ratio seems to indicate I succeeded. Today's card is rage potion, so I could actually do something kind of similar to this deck again, only with a different set of creatures.
Post by: dragonsdemesne on May 12, 2015, 11:30:13 pm
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Well, this was a surprise to me in two respects. One, I thought the deck would suck. Two, I thought that the deck would get lots of thumbs up. I figured that the rainbow from last week would get a ratio much like this one did (i.e. low) and that this one would get one higher like that one did. I really wish I knew sometimes how much RNG and variance was involved in thumbs ups. Actually... I guess I could repeat decks and see :p
Today's card is mutation. AI's pretty bad with that card, so it's hard to make something it'll do right, but I'll give it a go.
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I knew that this should get a decent thumbs up ratio, but I most certainly did NOT expect this to last eight days. I'm quite happy with how this one turned out, to say the least. Today's card is water pillar.
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The mono. (water!) I thought this would completely bomb; I cannot believe it managed eight days. Today's card is dusk mantle.
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dragon so sad... dragon thought this would be well liked...
Today's card is pest. dragon will punish them. yes he will. they will all burn. burn they will. well, maybe...
Post by: dragonsdemesne on June 05, 2015, 11:37:47 pm
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Patient pests... :p Today's card is mindgate, which is my favourite card! Time to have some fun, I hope...
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I thought this deck was really cool, but most people disagreed. I just love mindgate too much, I guess... The random one-of weapons were inspired by the tourney last weekend. Today's card is bone pillar.
Post by: dragonsdemesne on June 13, 2015, 09:40:43 pm
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Mostly monodeath rush, with eclipse and bloodsuckers off the mark to add a touch of semi-originality. Otyugh today... I'll try to think of a good one!
edit: Otyugh deck is rank 20 with 41-4 W/L after 6 days, but only 8 thumbs ups :(
edit: 43-5 and saw it at rank 9 peak. Also spun turquoise nymph today :D
Post by: dragonsdemesne on June 23, 2015, 04:16:05 am
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Pretty decent win record, 9 days, and includes three 1hp victories. The thumbs ups, however, sucked bad. Today's card is gnome rider, and I'm going to build a water/earth duo based on a BL deck I created a few seasons ago. (well, more than a few, since I haven't done leagues for a few, but whatever :p)
Post by: dragonsdemesne on June 30, 2015, 03:03:05 pm
25 wins 8 losses, 8 days, 5/25 thumbs up
Today's card is solar shield. I'm going to build a rather boring pdials deck, since I'm on vacation and want it to last awhile.
Post by: dragonsdemesne on July 09, 2015, 12:38:10 am
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Pretty darned good thumbs up rating for what's essentially just a fat pdials with solar bucklers. I do take some pride in the grey nymph/solar buckler combo, though :p Today's card is pegasus; I'm going to try and make a water/air/light trio with shard of patience and diving and stuff.
Post by: dragonsdemesne on July 17, 2015, 12:31:47 am
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About 1/3 thumbs ups; not bad. I'd intended to put shards of freedom in here as well, but somehow they got missed with all the other silly stuff going on here. Today's card is drain life.
Post by: dragonsdemesne on July 21, 2015, 12:22:31 am
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This deck didn't a huge sample size of plays, but that's still a pretty epic thumbs up ratio :D I can't recall ever seeing SoFr vampires before, and apparently many others hadn't, either. Today's card is photon. I am really not sure what to do with that this time. I don't want to do the obvious ones like hope or immorush or shard of patience or monolight or whatever, but that leaves very little left to try. There's got to be something, though...
Post by: CrockettRocket on July 21, 2015, 12:31:19 am
Post by: dragonsdemesne on July 21, 2015, 12:34:53 am
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6/13 of you know what a creative deck looks like. 7/13 of you do not. That is all.
Today's card is guardian angel.
Post by: Ginyu on July 25, 2015, 12:18:56 am
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Got at least two wins at 1hp :) Today's card is ghost of the past.
edit: ghost of the past deck is 30-2 and rank 10, so future thumbs ups may be off.
Post by: CrockettRocket on August 03, 2015, 02:18:38 am
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I didn't think this was particularly unique, but it was apparently extremely popular. It also lasted MUCH longer than I thought it would, and it got at least two 1 hp wins that I noticed. (I have NO idea how...) Today's card is immolation. Quite a flexible card in some ways (lots of types of quanta) but not so much in others (need immobait, low nonfire quanta), so this should be an interesting design challenge.
Post by: dragonsdemesne on August 20, 2015, 12:46:03 am
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I'm quite surprised that this didn't get more thumbs ups. I'm also very surprised it lasted as long as it did, although that appears to be primarily because it got so few plays. Today's card is deathstalker, which is unfortunately rather narrow in application. I think I'll do chaos power with it, since I have surprisingly never seen that done that I can recall.
Post by: Ginyu on August 20, 2015, 01:43:35 am
I think Deathstalker with Chaos Power is never seen because player prefer Dune with it. Stalker's only real advantage, beside crazy things like Adrena, is Nightfall buffing all of them. Looking forward to see what you are gonna bring up.
Post by: dragonsdemesne on August 21, 2015, 11:23:57 pm
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1/5 thumbs ups??? I thought this was really cool. Ah, well... Today's card is forest scorpion. I was thinking I might just throw all my life nymphs in a mostly mono and then find something fun to splash off the mark. Maybe momentums or something? 3/3 adrenalined scorpions...
Post by: dragonsdemesne on August 29, 2015, 08:29:20 pm
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Pretty simple deck, but it worked out pretty well. It snuck in at least one win at 1hp. Today's card is parallel universe, always a tough one since the AI is pretty stupid about not playing it early.
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I'm not sure if I've done this one before or not; if so, I apologize. In any event, the card of the day is abomination.
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This simple deck did much, much better than expected. Honestly, I'm not really sure why. Anyway, today's card is unstable gas.
Post by: dragonsdemesne on September 12, 2015, 04:27:16 pm
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That didn't get very many thumbs ups; I thought people would like it more. I think it needed more quanta, looking at it now. Today's card is iridium warden. In honour of being on team death this war, I will try to do decks based on death, much as I did last war with gravity.
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This isn't a sign that Death is weak. It's a sign that Earth is weak! The undead must not dilute themselves with puny Earth!
Today's card is fire spirit. This does not work with death... but I'll try anyway.
Post by: kirbylover314 on September 14, 2015, 12:37:39 am
Post by: bripod on September 14, 2015, 12:51:03 am
I was using my 500hp deck and got a pretty good jump on ya...
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The deck lasted 11 days primarily because it didn't get any plays for the last 3 days, other than the one that knocked it out of platinum.
Post by: dragonsdemesne on October 04, 2015, 01:56:39 am
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A mostly standard physalia deck, about the only 'exciting' part is the skull shield. Today's card is dagger.
edit: I -almost- made a relic farm, but I decided to try and make the 'best' dagger deck I could. It's 14-1 so far :p
edit: LOL, rank 17, 20-1... with dagger.
Post by: dragonsdemesne on October 12, 2015, 08:52:05 pm
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Nine day deck? Check.
Good thumbs up ratio? Check.
Top 25 leaderboard? Check.
Monodeath, the future champion team of war 9? Check.
...daggers? Uh, check.
...skeletons? Umm... what? ...check?
Now that's just the sort of thing I'm trying to do with my arena decks :p Making stupid cards into a successful deck.
Today's card is nymph's tears.
Post by: CrockettRocket on October 13, 2015, 01:47:20 am
Post by: dragonsdemesne on October 21, 2015, 11:45:34 pm
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For the (death) horde!
Today's card is earthquake.
Post by: CrockettRocket on October 22, 2015, 09:16:05 pm
Post by: rob77dp on October 22, 2015, 09:16:36 pm
why isnt the nymph tears with the rest of the upped water cards in the deck code?
Oracle card always shows its copies at the beginning 5 card slots in the deck.
Post by: CrockettRocket on October 22, 2015, 11:35:48 pm
...This never happened.why isnt the nymph tears with the rest of the upped water cards in the deck code?
Oracle card always shows its copies at the beginning 5 card slots in the deck.
Post by: dragonsdemesne on October 30, 2015, 03:44:35 am
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Death OP! Today's card is armagio.
Post by: dragonsdemesne on November 07, 2015, 12:30:22 am
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That this thing lasted 8 days is simply beyond me. Today's card is flesh spider.
edit: Wow, just checked and the deck I have up now is 16-0 and is already rank 10... it's just a monodeath rush, but it's got a really low quanta base and even cheaper cards like elite skeletons and deadly poisons, and sosas to buy more time.
Post by: dragonsdemesne on November 10, 2015, 12:33:47 am
Monodeath, bitches.
Post by: ddevans96 on November 10, 2015, 01:12:47 am
Post by: dragonsdemesne on November 10, 2015, 03:54:33 am
Post by: dragonsdemesne on November 11, 2015, 12:32:11 am
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Death might be last in War, but we're first in the arena!
edit: Still in 1st after seven days... not sure what good the sosas are at 62hp, but I'm not going to modify it. Apparently monodeath doesn't care...
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edit: Day 8 and still in first place... GO DEATH GO
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Post by: kirbylover314 on November 11, 2015, 12:46:02 am
Post by: dragonsdemesne on November 18, 2015, 07:49:01 am
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(not sure if the deck dropped out of platon day 11 or 12, as I didn't check on it. It was definitely still alive at the beginning of day 11, though, and either way is a personal best)
(also, the thumbs up/down ratio is totally messed up because it spent like 4 days at rank 1)
GO MONODEATH :death :death :death :death :death :death :death :death :death :death :death :death :death :death :death :death TEAM DEATH FTW
I don't know exactly how many thumbs ups this deck got, but I did check on it a few times on the leaderboard compared to other decks with similar rating, and it was ahead of those in thumbs ups, so I guess the skeletons did boost the thumbs ups a bit even though it's just a boring mono rush.
Today's card is quantum pillar.
edit: for reasons that make no sense, the idiotic deck I have up right now is 23-1. It's a 60 card rainbow with death mark.
Post by: antiaverage on November 18, 2015, 08:49:57 pm
it spent like 4 days at rank 1
Congratulations! Glad to see this deck come down so I can finally see the build. Great work.
Post by: dragonsdemesne on November 27, 2015, 03:30:34 am
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Really surprised that this one got past the first day or two. People seemed to have enjoyed it as well. Today's card is arctic squid; I took the deck down a touch early so that I could use that.
Post by: dragonsdemesne on November 29, 2015, 05:51:00 pm
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This deck appears to have suffered much the same fate as team death this week.
Today's card is emerald shield.
Post by: dragonsdemesne on December 08, 2015, 07:05:28 am
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One more foray into the realm of death duos. Today's card is horned frog. Death is dead, so no death duo this week. (probably...)
edit: 17-1 and rank 36 after 4 days; it's a monolife, but slightly different than most. It's quite similar to one of my fun pvp2 decks I like to run once in awhile.
edit: 41-3 and rank 2 after 6 days... very surprising to me.
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Post by: dragonsdemesne on December 17, 2015, 12:53:29 am
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(the thumbs up rating will be skewed because the deck was in the top 10 at one point)
Pretty simple little monolife deck, although with a few slight quirks. Very surprised that it did as well as it did. Today's card is stone dragon.
Post by: dragonsdemesne on December 24, 2015, 06:03:02 pm
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This was a fairly basic deck, nothing too innovative, although I don't normally run it with stoneskins. (or dragons, for that matter...) I figured I'd give it a try and see what happened. I can't recall exactly how high it made it in rank, but I'm pretty sure it was at least top 100 at its peak, maybe better.
Today's card is fire spirit.
Post by: dragonsdemesne on January 01, 2016, 11:54:36 pm
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I was on vacation this week, so I don't know if the deck lasted the full 8 days or not, but based on the number of plays, it probably did, or at least got very close. Today's card is fractal, allowing for quite a few different possible ideas.
edit: fractal deck SS (I thought it would fractal the cats... I think this is better)
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Post by: dragonsdemesne on January 09, 2016, 12:23:21 am
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Seven days for what is typically considered a joke deck is quite good. However, I am appalled at the low thumbs up count on it. Interestingly, I assumed that the AI would fractal the cats, but in the one game I tested, after seeing the deck somehow survive the first day, was that it fractalled the condors instead.
Today's card is short bow. I really hate getting neutral weapons; there is very little new that can be done with them. I'm going to try a crusader deck.
Post by: CrockettRocket on January 11, 2016, 11:44:34 am
Post by: dragonsdemesne on January 17, 2016, 02:59:32 am
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There's a bit of everything in this deck :p I'm very surprised it did as well as it did; perhaps the versatility of it helped? I'm wondering if I should have used a miracle or two, though I guess they wouldn't have been very useful later in the week, anyway.
Today's card is firefly. I'm going to try some sort of trio with air, fire from the fireflies, and then something else (to be determined) from the mark.
Post by: Solaris on January 17, 2016, 03:15:57 am
Today's card is firefly. I'm going to try some sort of trio with air, fire from the fireflies, and then something else (to be determined) from the mark.Epinephrine, perhaps? Speeds up the Fire income a bit, you could use Fahrenheit or Lances for an offensive deck. Unsure how well it'd work, though.
Post by: dragonsdemesne on January 17, 2016, 11:02:08 am
Post by: dragonsdemesne on January 27, 2016, 12:26:28 am
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I couldn't even remember what deck I made, it lasted so long... this deck looks fun :p Far more fun than the thumbs up ratio would suggest... Today's card is sanctuary.
Post by: dragonsdemesne on January 31, 2016, 09:36:27 am
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Only the high thumbs up ratio kept this from being a one day flop. I thought it might do better, but it probably didn't know when to play the right cards, like usual :p Today's card is ice dragon.
Post by: dragonsdemesne on February 11, 2016, 12:03:01 am
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Super boring deck, and the thumbs up rating shows that fact. I didn't think a dead simple rush like this would do quite so well, though. The fact that it went ten days with no purify for sosac probably means that not many people are farming with pdials anymore. I don't really know what people use vs the arena anymore; I just make stuff for fun :p
Today's card is parallel universe. It's one that always bugs me when spun, because it's probably the card that the AI plays worst in the entire game.
Post by: dragonsdemesne on February 21, 2016, 08:13:05 pm
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It took 2 or maybe even 3 days to get that last one play to knock it down from ~rank 450ish; otherwise, it wouldn't have made it this long. I figured the TU adrenaline nymph thing was slightly creative, though I'm sure a lot of people just saw dimspam and thumbed it down. Today's card is sapphire charger.
Post by: dragonsdemesne on March 01, 2016, 01:15:16 am
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Elite chargerbow! This did quite a lot better than I expected, though I thought it would get more thumbs up than it did. Today's card is amethyst pillar. Depending on RL things, I will possibly not get a chance to update it in the next few days if it loses quickly. (it's also why I withdrew from the Devil's Gate event)
Post by: CrockettRocket on March 01, 2016, 03:09:16 am
Post by: dragonsdemesne on March 04, 2016, 11:58:23 pm
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I thought it would be funny to post this before I went out of town :p It suckered four people, lol. Today's card is graviton fireeater.
Post by: dragonsdemesne on March 11, 2016, 12:22:11 am
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I've done similar decks in the past, but I just love the red nymph/shard of focus synergy too much not to reuse it once in awhile. Graviton firemaster naturally led itself into using fire as well, so it seemed a decent choice. The unupped nymphs also can be used on the firemasters as well. It's probably not every day that a twelve shard of focus deck gets 50% thumbs ups in the arena, so I must have done something right :p
Today's card is crimson dragon. I'm not sure what I'll do with that one. I think the last time I did a PU/dimshield/silence duo, and I think I've done fractal/dims as well. I was thinking about a novabow with pu/silence and buffs like chaos power or unstoppable, but I think I've done that, as well. I'm pretty sure I've done immorush and monofire decks as well, and even if not, they aren't particularly creative.
Post by: CrockettRocket on March 11, 2016, 09:50:12 pm
Post by: dragonsdemesne on March 16, 2016, 03:31:05 am
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I don't know if this has been done yet, but I figured the AI couldn't really screw it up. (right?) Brimstones, mitosis for quanta, dragons, mitosis for dragons. Heal when needed. Today's card is voodoo doll.
Post by: Sera on March 16, 2016, 03:36:29 am
Post by: dragonsdemesne on March 17, 2016, 11:39:08 pm
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I was -really- excited when this hilarious deck somehow went 5-1 after the first day. Sadly, it didn't maintain the winrate on the second day. Today's card is stone pillar. I'm going to try a bit of an oddball idea on this one.
Post by: CrockettRocket on March 18, 2016, 03:17:22 am
Post by: dragonsdemesne on March 24, 2016, 03:00:04 am
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Wow. 2/21 thumbs up. That is literally the LOWEST score I have EVER gotten, at least on any deck that made it more than just a few wins. I suppose it's got a combination of things that annoy people; loads of PC in quicksand/explosion, lots of direct damage (firelances, fahrenheit), lots of stalling (stoneskins, diamond shield) and deckout (shard of bravery) Ah, well... Today's card is plate armour. What I'll do with that, I have no idea...
Post by: dragonsdemesne on March 28, 2016, 03:58:38 am
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Well, this won about 13 more games than I predicted, especially as I was not sure how the AI would even play it, but I thought the thumbs up ratio would be a lot better. I can't imagine that such a deck has ever been done with heavy armor as a base card before.
Today's card is unstable gas. I've done a few different fire/air duos with that, like firestall or wings decks or elite firefly; I think I'll try to work it into a trio or quad somehow.
Post by: dragonsdemesne on March 31, 2016, 07:23:53 am
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This one was just a bit too silly :p And three of you apparently don't know how to thumbs up.
Today's card is dusk mantle. 60 card deck incoming, I guess...
Post by: dragonsdemesne on April 08, 2016, 12:29:38 am
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Fireless firestall. Today's card is unstable gas. Since I just had that card right before this one, I'm posting a relic farm for today. Enjoy!
edit: I didn't know decks could go to 0-6 in platinum :p 6 people got a shot at relics :) Today's card is BLACK NYMPH :D
Post by: dragonsdemesne on April 17, 2016, 10:40:07 pm
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Every few months, the arena ratings seem to go completely haywire. I'm not sure exactly what it is, but the wrong amounts get given for wins and losses. I'm not sure if someone hacks it, or some files get corrupted, or what. In any event, this one's ratings went all bonkers, and it lasted much longer than it would have normally as a result. I thought it was a fun idea, even though I know the AI did not play it anywhere near correctly. Today's card is purple dragon.
Post by: dragonsdemesne on April 28, 2016, 03:53:28 am
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Again, the ratings in platinum have been all bonkers, so ignore the rating for this one; it wouldn't have lasted more than a day or two normally, most likely. Today's card is lava golem.
Post by: dragonsdemesne on May 06, 2016, 11:02:45 pm
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Wow, this got a really nice thumbs up score :) Best by far I've had in awhile, and I'm not really sure why. If anything, I"d have to guess the shards of serendipity. Today's card is short sword. It's so hard to build around neutral weapons, but I've got a funny idea I haven't tried yet...
Post by: dragonsdemesne on May 08, 2016, 10:22:14 pm
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This deck is pretty bad, but I thought it was really cool. Only one person liked it, too. Hopefully I can do better with basilisk blood.
Post by: dragonsdemesne on May 17, 2016, 03:43:31 am
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I'm extremely surprised that this made it to eight days, but baffled that it got such a poor reception. Some days I will never understand the community... :p Today's card is deja vu.
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I thought this was a fun deck to make, taking a bit of a unique twist with a trio, but it didn't last very long. Today's card is bone wall.
Post by: dragonsdemesne on May 29, 2016, 10:40:08 pm
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Catatitans/death duo. Pretty sure I've done it before, but I couldn't think of anything else at the time. Managed 8 days, but it had a poor thumbs up ratio. Today's card is quintessence. I've got a bit of a mean idea for this one... :D
Post by: Mr Muffin on May 30, 2016, 11:24:54 pm
Post by: dragonsdemesne on May 30, 2016, 11:41:54 pm
Post by: dragonsdemesne on June 06, 2016, 04:22:01 am
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ROFL! 1/16 thumbs ups!
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I've got a bit of a mean idea for this one...
It seems I was accurate on this... :) I'm actually glad this happened, despite it being a terrible thumbs up ratio. It proves that people aren't either upvoting or downvoting my decks simply based on whether they like/dislike me personally based on forum/chat/whatever, and are rating the actual deck itself. Today's card is dagger. I hate getting dagger... there isn't a lot to do with it, and I can never think of new ideas with it. I'll see if I can somehow conjure up something, though...
Post by: CrockettRocket on June 06, 2016, 08:18:34 pm
Post by: dragonsdemesne on June 10, 2016, 02:30:38 am
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I figured one way to make use of the crappy Dirk (and the AI tendency to spam Dirks even when one is already in play) was to use shard of bravery, and at that point, immorush seemed a logical choice. It completely bombed, though. Today's card is basilisk blood.
Post by: Mr Muffin on June 10, 2016, 02:39:52 am
Post by: dragonsdemesne on June 13, 2016, 03:33:39 am
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Hmm, interesting that this is considered as creative :p In any event, it was well-received, which surprises me. I chose shards based on the abilities that looked like the most fun on the shard golem chart at high numbers of shards, so hopefully people got to see a few they don't normally see. No new deck today; I spun basilisk blood again. I've spun BB a LOT lately, enough that I asked on the FAQ if anyone else has had weird oracle things. (based on the unsold cards I have in my collection right now, I have spun 7 basilisk bloods, 1 eternity, and 1 dagger, so 7/9 basilisk bloods :p)
edit: ANOTHER basilisk blood, so no new deck today, either.
edit: Yet another basilisk blood; no new deck again!... wtf?
edit: TURQUOISE NYMPH woooooooooo
Post by: dragonsdemesne on June 18, 2016, 04:15:30 pm
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How to make a hated deck in monoaether... see above, apparently :p Can't say I'm too surprised, though. Today's card is electrum hourglass. I've got a few untried ideas for that one, since I don't think I've had that card very often.
Post by: dragonsdemesne on June 26, 2016, 10:38:02 am
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I thought this was quite a clever deck idea, and expected it to get more thumbs ups than it did. At least it lasted the full eight days! Today's card is nymph queen :D
Post by: dragonsdemesne on July 07, 2016, 12:31:16 am
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Mindgates and water nymphs and quantum towers :) Sadly, the idea that the AI might protect its towers instead of its other stuff didn't occur to me until much later... but it still seems to have managed to win a few games. Today's card is chaos seed.
Post by: dragonsdemesne on July 15, 2016, 01:31:19 am
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Nice; that's about a 40% thumbs up ratio :) Best I've done in awhile, I think. Managed a full eight days with it, too. Perhaps people thumbed it up more because it had a heavy thematic element to it? (i.e. buffing vampires to hell, so to speak) Today's card is bone pillar.
Post by: dragonsdemesne on July 23, 2016, 12:10:29 am
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I was just looking for a bunch of silly synergies on this one. I'm pretty surprised it lasted that long. Today's card is air pendulum.
edit: Well, this might be interesting. I thought the deck I put up was rather clever, but so far it's 11-1 and has ZERO thumbs ups :p
Post by: dragonsdemesne on July 31, 2016, 09:48:55 am
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Well... I guess it picked up some thumbs ups later. I thought there were quite a few fun little synergies here. Maxwell's demon/eagle's eye is one you rarely see, but seems like it should be good, and demons are also airborne for shard of freedom and sky blitz. Plus there's the famous chaos wyrms in there as well. Today's card is shield.
Post by: dragonsdemesne on August 08, 2016, 11:52:53 pm
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I can't believe this lasted 8 days. I also can't believe the crappy thumbs up ratio. Kind of amusing that a deck that is practically a shard farm (24 shards) did so well :p Today's card is armagio
Post by: dragonsdemesne on August 11, 2016, 04:23:15 am
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Well... armedilgos are popular, but not good, it seems :p Or at least not in this deck. I spun boneyard today; I'm not sure what to do with that one; I had it fairly recently, if memory serves. I'll try to come up with something, though, maybe some weird dry spell thing :p
edit: I made a deck I thought would be a total joke/failure, and it is 6-0 and 5/6 thumbs ups so far :p It did in fact use dry spell.
Post by: Mr Muffin on August 12, 2016, 12:16:07 am
Post by: dragonsdemesne on August 19, 2016, 01:51:56 am
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Now this is what I like to see :) 50% thumbs ups, to take a deck that ordinarily couldn't possibly make it to the full eight days! Lots of silly combos, including dry spell to kill its own stuff and buff condor/go nuts with graveyards. Looking at the deck though, I have absolutely no freaking idea why I put permafrost shield instead of bone wall, though. I think that I saw there was a ton of extra water quanta (which is true) and threw it in to soak some of it up, without thinking about how much better bone wall would have been.
Today's card is aether pendulum. As I did last War (except with Death) I will honour team Light by using light in every deck. (If I remember to, at least)
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Aether/light stall, one of my personal favourites. Apparently, it is not well loved by the community :p Today's card is hammer. Since I am doing light for war, I think I'm going to do a crusader style deck with it.
Post by: dragonsdemesne on September 06, 2016, 04:47:39 am
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Light power! I am extremely surprised that this weird thing made it to 8 days. I also noticed today when I checked that it managed to get at least win #43 today with 1hp, which without any SoD or pest/discord/BH is pretty darned good (though it does have quicksands) Today's card is cockatrice. Again, because Team Light is going to reverse sweep rounds 2 to whatever in War, all my decks will be using Light for the duration of War.
Post by: dragonsdemesne on September 12, 2016, 11:28:49 pm
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Not many plays on this particular deck, and it didn't do very well anyway. Today's card is pulverizer. Working that into a light deck will be challenging. I think crusader is the best way to go, unless I do a massive 'The Deck'.
Post by: dragonsdemesne on September 25, 2016, 07:29:15 am
So... deck's been sitting at 1hp for the last five days. I didn't pay attention to whether it got any wins or not at 1hp. I have no idea why it doesn't seem to be getting any plays. Just posting to indicate it's not been forgotten.
Post by: dragonsdemesne on September 25, 2016, 02:41:11 pm
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Well... the winrate was a lot higher than I expected the AI to do with this deck. No idea why it got basically no plays for almost a week, though. Today's card is plate armour. I think it's farm time.
edit:Hmm, surprised it took 6 losses for the farm to drop out of plat. I thought 0-2 was usually enough. Maybe there aren't as many people playing lately. It would explain the last deck lasting so long. New card is gnome rider. Again, Light will be used, because Light will win War!
Post by: dragonsdemesne on October 04, 2016, 11:36:07 pm
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Just like Team Light, we seem to be able to last about 8 days before elimination...
Today's card is mummy.
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Not too bad so far :) 11 wins, and a very high thumbs up rating; look at the other undefeated decks in the list. The deck is mostly Light cards, too, because WAR.
edit: 16-0 and rank 13 thanks in large part to thumbs ups. Ranks 18 and 19 are tied at 18-0 and have 36 points less. Rank 24 is also 16-0 and has 63 points less.
edit: Wow. rank 6, 21-0, and 17/21 thumbs ups! (proudest of that last one)
edit: Deck has been in top 10 for a couple days, so the thumbs up count will be off. However, either way, it's really high, much higher than average, as can be easily seen here, by comparing it to other x-1 win record decks in this list.
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Post by: dragonsdemesne on October 16, 2016, 06:21:17 am
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Thumbs up ratio will be skewed due to time in the top ten, but it definitely had an extremely high one nonetheless. Light nymph master nymph. Today's card is phase dragon. I've got a mean idea for this one... :p It will still contain light cards, because light master race.
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Seeing as 1) This deck was almost universally hated, according to the thumbs downs, and 2) I spun my 4th blue nymph today, I have decided to make a new deck early, since I can make a deck I cannot ordinarily create
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Nice; this one had a pretty good thumbs up rating. It did better than I expected, as well. Who doesn't like nymphs, I guess? :) Today's card is deja vu.
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I've done a few of these 'low quanta count' style monos before, but I don't think I've ever tried it with Time, yet. (and even if I did, I doubt I used longswords) I'm a little surprised this made it to 8 days; maybe I got some good fate egg hatches :p Today's card is light pillar. I'm not sure what I'll do with that, yet.
Post by: dragonsdemesne on November 16, 2016, 01:21:52 am
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WOW, I just saw the thumbs up ratio; that's really high :) I didn't think it was all that unusual; other than the shards of bravery, it seems fairly ordinary, but numbers don't lie. (unless they're US election polls...) I added more quanta than I thought was necessary, because that way, when more cards are drawn with shard of bravery, they can be played quicker. Looking at the deck, it probably was a bit short on fire quanta, though, and probably would benefit from a few pendulums in place of towers. Today's card is lobotomizer.
Post by: dragonsdemesne on November 23, 2016, 12:24:10 am
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I purposely designed this deck to be both as silly as possible and to use as many rares as possible :p It's quite surprising it did this well, given those two criteria. However, I suppose the deck is pretty much a gimped version of standard monoaether phase dragon/SoW/phase shield or whatever, so the fact that it did alright maybe isn't so surprising, after all.
Today's card is boneyard.
Post by: dragonsdemesne on December 01, 2016, 12:44:42 am
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I can't remember what event it was, but I did something kind of like this in some PvP event, only with less elements. (I know it had grey nymphs and immolation, but that's as far as I can remember) It did considerably better than I would have expected, particularly since I know the AI will cremate stuff and THEN play soulcatcher afterwards.
Today's card is chrysaora.
Post by: dragonsdemesne on December 09, 2016, 04:51:08 am
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I based this deck on a shard of patience BL deck in my collection. I thought it was a really cool idea, but the masses have disagreed. Sometimes I don't understand the masses... :p Today's card is toadfish.
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Behold, the no upgrade platinum deck! Made it to 8 days and made at least one 1hp win that I noticed, and got a very high thumbs up ratio! Today's card is lobotomizer, and I think I remember doing a fairly silly flying SoW lobo deck recently, and I have no good ideas, so it's farm time.
Post by: dragonsdemesne on December 28, 2016, 07:54:27 pm
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This one's from awhile ago due to the bugs that Elements was suffering from last week, but which were fortunately fixed; the arena's age was left unchanged to compensate, so that's why the longer delay. This is another of my 'low quanta' weenie decks; I chose it this time to show off my newest acquisition, a 3rd mark of fire :) (Also, I didn't really have any other ideas :p) Today's card is parasite, which might be a tough one. There are lots of cool decks with that card, but most of them are really hard for the AI to play properly.
Post by: dragonsdemesne on January 10, 2017, 12:29:34 am
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A general lack of number of plays kept this deck going for a whopping twelve days. That, and it was ranked fairly highly (I remember seeing it peak around rank 50 or so on day 6, but decks of similar age had 20+ more plays) so it took awhile to dip below the 500 mark. Today's card is earthquake, which is a hard one to do, at least if I also want to get thumbs ups, because it's just an annoying card in general. Still, I'll try to figure something out...
Post by: dragonsdemesne on January 20, 2017, 12:33:44 am
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Well, this deck did extremely poorly in terms of thumbs up ratio. I didn't expect too much, given how annoying earthquake is, but I tried to make it a little more interesting, and apparently failed :p Today's card is pandemonium.
Post by: dragonsdemesne on January 27, 2017, 12:54:50 am
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50% thumbs ups :) Yay for random stuff and yay for nymphs! Today's card is gnome rider.
Post by: dragonsdemesne on February 08, 2017, 12:25:39 am
This deck... it's like the Energizer bunny. It keeps going, and going, and going... it's gotten at least a couple wins at 1hp, too :p
Post by: dragonsdemesne on February 11, 2017, 06:48:09 pm
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Pests gave the deck a couple 1hp wins. That, combined with very few plays per day, gave this deck a whopping SIXTEEN days in the arena, which is a personal record. Today's card is phase salvager.
Post by: dragonsdemesne on February 16, 2017, 12:42:09 am
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This one didn't make it very far (with phase salvager, that's not very surprising) but at least it got 40% thumbs ups. Today's card is thorn carapace. As usual, shields typically require a larger deck, to help mitigate the problem of having extra copies of a shield. I'm not sure what I'll do yet, but I've got a bit of a weird idea...
Post by: dragonsdemesne on February 19, 2017, 07:10:13 pm
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This was surprisingly an extremely unpopular deck, despite being a rather unique trio that I've never seen done before. For comparison, I'm pretty sure boring decks like PDials got me better scores, though admittedly this was a small sample size. Still... sometimes I don't get people :p Today's card is discord. I have a weird idea I'm going to try here again... If anyone remembers some of my "extremely low quanta" decks, I'm going to try that, but with entropy. Minor abominations, flying discords, chaos powers, etc.
Post by: dragonsdemesne on March 01, 2017, 12:40:53 am
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I didn't think this deck would make it anywhere near as long as it did. I can't complain, though... Today's card is skeleton, so I get to be a newbie again :) I think I'll try something with eternity... and I'm not sure what else, yet.
Post by: dragonsdemesne on March 11, 2017, 05:36:34 pm
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Almost 50% thumbs ups on this one :) I'm extremely surprised it got as far as it did, though; it seemed like it would only last a few days. I've noticed that most of my decks seem to go the full 8 days in recent times, so I think people are playing more casually against platinum arena, or else I'm getting either luckier or smarter at building decks for platinum. I even noticed yesterday at least one win at 1hp with this deck somehow :p Today's card is GREEN NYMPH :)
Post by: dragonsdemesne on March 22, 2017, 05:16:59 am
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LIFE NYMPHS RAAAAAAAR... pretty surprised this silly thing got anywhere at all. Today's card is steal. I'm not sure what I'll do with that one... there are a few possibilities. pest/steal/earthquake... hehe Maybe a trio of some sort, so I actually get some thumbs ups... but with those two elements at least.
Post by: dragonsdemesne on March 30, 2017, 03:33:25 am
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Heh, I didn't think this one would be very popular, and I was right :p I hoped it would get a few more thumbs ups than the standard monodarkness with pests, but I don't think it did any better in that popularity contest. Today's card is skull shield. I think I'm going to do an air/death stall, and use owl's eyes to weaken things that attack into skull shield, and/or kill them when they become skeletons. It'll probably bomb, but at least it's a new idea.
Post by: dragonsdemesne on April 03, 2017, 11:40:49 pm
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This is actually the first deck in quite awhile that I can remember not going at least 8 days in the arena. I thought something this unique would get a ton of thumbs ups, too, but it did really poorly there as well. Ah, well... today's card is lava golem. I should punish you all with an immorush or something, lol. In fact, I think I will :p
Post by: dragonsdemesne on April 16, 2017, 10:29:55 am
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I saw this deck take at least one win with 1hp :) That, and apparently very few plays in the last few days, kept it going longer than normal. Today's card is aether pendulum.
Post by: dragonsdemesne on April 27, 2017, 11:55:58 pm
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Well... that should be pretty much the baseline for people who just thumbs up everything :p Today's card is freeze, which at least lends itself to quite a few duos or even trios, so I should be able to come up with something more clever.
Post by: dragonsdemesne on May 09, 2017, 01:49:32 am
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LOOK AT THE THUMBS UPS! 15/24!! I think that's my best ever for any deck that lasted a reasonable amount of time. I don't know what I did right on this one, but I'll try to keep it up! Today's card is basilisk blood.
Post by: dragonsdemesne on May 21, 2017, 10:27:39 pm
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This deck lasted so long that I'm not even sure exactly what I was going for at the time :p I think that I wanted something with gargoyles but without pests, and went from there. I'm not sure why the deck wasn't getting any plays the last several days; I check my arena deck at least once a day when I check the oracle, so I know that less than 24 hours ago it was still active. Lately I've been getting a lot of decks that just hover on the edge of elimination but never seem to get any plays at the end.
Today's card is emerald pillar. I think I'll build my favourite monolife deck and see how it does. I can't recall ever actually using it in the arena before. It's a 60 card mono with scorpions and nymphs and mitosis and bonds and shards.
Post by: dragonsdemesne on June 02, 2017, 11:08:34 pm
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Well... I guess I can't expect too many thumbs up from just a mono deck, even if it is a bit unusual like this one. Today's card is firefly. Cards like that are always fun to build around, and I'll try to come up with something fun :)
edit: 27-3 with 9 thumbs ups, rank 28, and gravity mark on the firefly deck. Not sure how high it will go, but it should've gotten more thumbs ups than that...
Post by: dragonsdemesne on June 13, 2017, 11:35:08 pm
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I thought this deck was really unique :) When do you see a gravity/air deck that isn't catatitans? My favourite combo, one that even the AI should do, is unstable gas with shards of focus out, to get an extra use out of them. (on the other hand, it might kill 0/1 shards before using them, too... I don't know, lol) Today's card is wyrm. I've got an idea for that one; it's probably been done before, but at worst it will at least give people a lot of shards to farm!
edit: still alive (barely) at 14 days!
Post by: dragonsdemesne on June 28, 2017, 11:44:18 pm
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This got more thumbs ups than I expected :) I thought it was fairly basic, but I guess most people would've done chaos powers off the mark. The deck really did last this long; yesterday, it was still around 470 rank. Anyway, today's card is enchant artifact; I am not sure what I'll do with that, yet. I remember doing a weird mindgate rainbow once with that which I thought was cool, so maybe I'll try something similar.
Post by: dragonsdemesne on July 07, 2017, 11:33:53 pm
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Pseudo-shard farm makes it to 9 days! Shards for everyone :) (or at least those who defeated the deck :p) Today's card is firebolt. I'm not sure what I'll do with that one; maybe some sort of firestall or something. I think I'll do something that's a cross between firestall and this deck.
Post by: dragonsdemesne on July 18, 2017, 03:46:41 am
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Well, this one sure wasn't very popular... hopefully the next one will be more appreciated. Eternity is my next card; I'll try to come up with a more fun deck this time.
Post by: dragonsdemesne on July 28, 2017, 11:39:06 pm
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A fairly simple pseudo-farm that could still win some games. It wasn't very popular for some reason, though. Today's card is abomination; I'm not sure what I'll do with that one. It's a fairly boring card, and there's not much to do with it. I was thinking maybe some sort of luciferin/hope thing; I can't remember if I've done that before, and can't be bothered to check, but I certainly haven't done it recently.
Post by: dragonsdemesne on August 08, 2017, 06:15:44 am
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Yeah, I know, it's technically rank 499, but whenever a deck is right on the edge, it never gets any plays, because (I think) it's actually flip-flopping around that rank, and so it's actually spending half the time (or more) below rank 500 where it gets no plays. Anyway, whatever the reason (It could even just be in my head, but I think I'm right) I'll replace the deck now. Today's card is earthquake.
Post by: dragonsdemesne on August 23, 2017, 03:36:40 am
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Fairly good thumbs up ratio on this one, especially considering it was an annoying card like earthquake. Because I'm such a nice and generous person, I also deliberately included a lot of rares for people, too :) Today's card is boneyard, and other than the usual ball lightning/whatever, I'm never sure what to do with that card. I'll try to find something interesting, though.
Post by: dragonsdemesne on September 07, 2017, 11:43:28 pm
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I have no idea why people didn't like this deck; it looks really fun to me. The deck just doesn't seem to want to drop out of platinum, so since I got a good card today, I'll move on with nova for the next deck. I'm going to do a PSN speedbow with shard of divinity and light mark and see how long a deck can last at 1hp if you try :p (edit: 16 days and counting!)
edit: Oh, right, due to rather excessive attempts to farm silver for Holy Cows (sadly never got any) I am now level 79 instead of level 78. Decks will be built accordingly, i.e. 195hp to start generally.
Post by: dragonsdemesne on September 28, 2017, 11:15:39 pm
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Not many people liked the deck, but it FINALLY dropped out of platinum after 21 days :p (it was still in the bottom 50 ranks as of yesterday) I playtested against it after a week or two a few games, and I realized that there was so much extra light quanta that it could've done with more of something to use it up with, but I don't edit my arena decks once submitted. (unless maybe it's still at 0 games played)
Today's card is toadfish. Also, due to excessive silver grinding recently, I'm level 80 now (and about a third of the way to 81, for that matter) so all arena stats are maxed from now on.
Post by: dragonsdemesne on October 10, 2017, 02:38:53 am
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Almost 50% thumbs ups on this deck, which is weird, because it's really boring. Oh, well... Today's card is armagio. I have a rather silly idea for this one... :p It's one I can't recall ever seeing before.
Post by: dragonsdemesne on October 22, 2017, 06:24:54 am
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Almost 50% thumbs ups on this one, using everyone's favourite, the mighty ARMEDILGO. With ADRENALINE! And MITOSIS! Armagios forever! Today's card is momentum, but I'm just going to wait 40 minutes and get a new card, because I don't want that one.
edit: Got Blessing now, so basically the same thing :(
edit: Day 3 and the blessing deck is 14-0 and rank 20 :) It's just a monolight, but it's got five nymphs, lol.
edit: Day 5 and the blessing deck is now 21-0 and rank 6! Thumbs ups are now impossible to know for sure.
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I have no idea how this deck ended up at rank 1... it doesn't really seem like anything particularly strong or whatever, but it just won and kept winning. It got at least 8 wins at 1hp that I noticed, too. I decided to make a new deck today because I have scarab and there's some fun things to do with that one.
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There wasn't enough wins to really evaluate if people liked this deck or not, but it definitely performed poorly. I'd like to think that people enjoyed it in general, but who knows? Today's card is golden hourglass, and I'm going to try and build a shard of the void deck, much like the one Team Time likes to use in War.
Post by: dragonsdemesne on November 28, 2017, 12:41:18 am
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I used to really like this deck from Team Time in War... until I lost to it this last round when they got their 2 steals more than I got my 3 pulverizers :p #notlikethis No hard feelings to Time, though; in my first War, I was on Time, and it was a blast.
Today's card is Black Hole. As one last bit of pseudo-spite, I shall make a flying pulverizer black hole deck to decimate everyone using this Time/Darkness deck :p Pulverizers shall not be stolen! (perhaps they shall be rewound, but whatever, lol)
Post by: dragonsdemesne on December 12, 2017, 05:43:59 am
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Well... not a bad rating, considering the nature of the deck is pure denial. It lasted a good long time, too. Today's is deflagration, so maybe I'll do another denial deck of some sort.
Post by: dragonsdemesne on December 21, 2017, 07:18:32 am
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Blow up ALL the quanta! Then use shard of patience with pests and wardens for a stallbreaking finisher. I'm taking the deck down despite it still being in the top 500, because I wanted to use the quantum pillar I spun today.
edit: The quantum pillar deck is at rank 5 with a 27-2 record now, so thumbs ups will not be known.
Post by: dragonsdemesne on December 30, 2017, 08:00:21 pm
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A bit of a spin on the usual supernova rush, but throwing in a few cards I thought were more fun than usual. It did very well, getting into the top ten at one point. Today's card is pharaoh, and I took this deck down early because I really like making the pharaoh-sor deck. It's got lots of rares to farm, yet it's still actually a deck worth playing a game against.
Post by: dragonsdemesne on January 16, 2018, 07:06:05 am
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While I am curious just how many more days this deck can go without getting any plays to knock it out of platinum, I'd like to build a deck with the Grey Nymph I just spun. It's my 3rd copy now, and so it's one I can't just decide I want to use a full set of any time I want (hi purples...) so I'm taking the chance to do something with it now.
Post by: dragonsdemesne on February 03, 2018, 07:13:22 am
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Not very many thumbs ups, but man, this deck kept getting 1hp wins and just surviving. It finally dropped out sometime in the last few hours. I didn't plan it, but this would've been a good pseudo farm, since it's got lots of rares and relics, too. Today's card is sapphire charger.
Post by: dragonsdemesne on February 28, 2018, 05:49:03 am
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Often it seems the decks that I would expect people to hate the most get good thumbs ups ratings. I guess I just don't understand how players think :p Today's card is vampire stiletto, and I wanted to make a flying stiletto/shard of freedom deck with it for some reason, so I decided to go with that.
Post by: serprex on March 11, 2018, 11:59:20 pm
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Holy crap, I didn't realize how BAD the thumbs up rating on this one was until I posted the code here. 3 out of 25... 12%. I'm pretty sure that's by far my lowest ever. I guess people really hate shard of freedom or something :p (yet Life was this War's winner...) I took the deck down a bit early so that I could use the Blue Nymph that I spun last night. I guess I'll try to avoid shard of freedom from now on, even when it's something like this last deck that I thought was slightly unusual. I think I remember doing something with blue nymphs and firefly queens the last time I had either the nymph or the FFQ as the oracle card, so I'll look for something different than that.
Post by: dragonsdemesne on March 31, 2018, 12:29:59 am
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I wasn't sure how well this one would do, but it looked like a fun idea, and it was received reasonably well. Today's card is trident, and I want to establish a baseline for how many people might just be conceding looking for 1hp decks or whatever, so I'm going to post a deck that literally can't do anything and see if it gets any wins, just as a frame of reference. Enjoy the farm!
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A simple test to see how many people are auto-conceding looking for 1hp decks. Today's card is seraph.
Post by: serprex on April 15, 2018, 01:03:24 pm
Post by: dragonsdemesne on May 08, 2018, 04:49:17 am
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Hmm, a pretty good thumbs up ratio on this one for some reason. I guess maybe people don't make duos out of fire and time very often? Today's card is Fractal, and while I could sit on this 1hp deck another day, I want to make a fractal holy cow deck, just for the lulz. Let's see if it can actually get any wins... :)
Post by: dragonsdemesne on May 23, 2018, 07:07:25 am
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Interesting... holy cows don't show up properly in arena decks :p The 'blanks' in the deck are holy cows. How a fractal holy cow deck did not get 100% thumbs ups is quite beyond my comprehension. I suppose anyone losing to such a deck might be a little bitter, but still... :p Today's card is nova.
Post by: Mr Muffin on May 28, 2018, 01:13:20 am
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Three of every nymph. Because I can! I didn't think it would get any wins at all. Today's card is phoenix.
Post by: dragonsdemesne on June 16, 2018, 05:51:04 pm
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This one was ranked fairly highly for awhile, but it doesn't look like it ever got to the top 10. This one's pretty simple; lots of airborne things and shards of freedom, then shards of bravery and extra quanta to play those extra cards quickly. It seems to have both worked fairly well and been fairly popular. Today's card is graviton mercenary. I've got a simple idea for that one that I don't think I've seen before. It's similar to this one, where I'll have lots of gravity cards and then shards of bravery to draw.
edit: Rank 13 and 19-0 on the gravity deck... VERY surprised by this so far, lol. It didn't seem very strong to me.
Post by: dragonsdemesne on June 27, 2018, 11:39:58 pm
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I saw this deck briefly get into the top 10, so the thumbs up rating won't be accurate. I'm really surprised the deck did so well. I guess with a little help Gravity can be good :) Today's card is lightning. Hopefully I can find something as popular and fun as this one was.
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Just a bunch of random silly stuff. Oddly, not very well liked for some reason. Today's card is entropy pendulum.
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This one wasn't very popular; I guess despite being a trio, it has a lot of annoying cards. Today's card is Empathic Bond, which I don't think I've had for quite awhile; hopefully I'll come up with something fun.
Post by: dragonsdemesne on August 10, 2018, 11:25:08 pm
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I guess this deck wasn't too exciting; I've done a few similar ones before. Today's card is Silence, and I'm going to build a duo with fire. I was thinking that fahrenheit + silence would be rather mean... :)
Post by: dragonsdemesne on August 20, 2018, 11:30:31 pm
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Man, did this get a lot of plays in the last day or two... with the early winrate it had, it could've been a #1 ranked deck with that number of plays in the first 2 days instead of the last two. Ah, well.... Today's card is Solar Shield.
Post by: dragonsdemesne on August 29, 2018, 08:53:01 am
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As anyone who's played the arena in the last week and a half or so knows, it's gotten messed up again. All decks are getting way more plays than normal, and losing most of the games. It's probably bots farming or something. In any event, I'm going to take this deck down and just leave up a farm until it's back to normal. I did think this was a fun idea, it's just too bad it didn't get a fair chance.
Post by: dragonsdemesne on September 07, 2018, 11:25:45 pm
Today's card is enchant artifact. There's a fun mindgate/EA deck I've done in the past that I'm going to put up for this one.
Post by: dragonsdemesne on September 20, 2018, 05:06:14 am
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Mindgates and nymphs everywhere! Fun times :) Good thumbs ups, too. Today's card is Hope, and I'm going to try and build a deck that will stay at higher ranks in platinum as long as possible, doing fractal rol/hope with SoDs.
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I haven't done one of these for awhile... This fractal RoL thing managed a nice 50% thumbs up ratio. I was lazy/waiting for a card I felt like building around, and today's card is devourer, and there's always lots of evil things to do with that! :)
Edit: The devourer deck is 16-1 and rank 38, plus the top 9-10 or so decks have bugged ratings and are months old, so it's actually doing even better.
Edit: 23-1 and rank 13, so basically rank 4, since the legit list is starting at 9.
Post by: dragonsdemesne on October 30, 2018, 12:18:43 am
I'm counting this as #1 plat :p Silly platinum rating bug...
Post by: dragonsdemesne on November 16, 2018, 07:01:40 am
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Some sort of silly grabbow pest thing here. Probably could've used a shard of patience or two; not sure why I didn't put them in. Ah, well... Today's card is thorn carapace, and I'm going to try using a silly healstall deck that kills everything with the thorns while just spamming shards of gratitude and sanctuary and stuff.
Post by: Mr Muffin on November 17, 2018, 05:31:15 pm
Post by: dragonsdemesne on November 17, 2018, 07:24:57 pm
Post by: dragonsdemesne on December 07, 2018, 07:37:40 am
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How much healing can I put in one deck? About this much. Today's new card is Titan. I'm going to do an overdrive/shard of sacrifice thing and see how that goes.
Post by: dragonsdemesne on December 18, 2018, 11:46:17 pm
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I haven't seen this particular style of Catatitans done before, so I thought I'd give it a try. Today's card is mind flayer, and I had an idea for that I wanted to try.
Post by: dragonsdemesne on January 08, 2019, 07:31:28 am
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Kind of a weird water rush, with silences to make it just that bit more deadly. It got over 50% thumbs ups, which is nice :) Today's card is burning pillar.
Post by: dragonsdemesne on February 09, 2019, 10:15:03 am
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Simple, boring, and not very well liked. I spun quantum pillar today, so there's lots of possibilities with that one!
Post by: dragonsdemesne on February 20, 2019, 01:15:25 am
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I wonder how many people can build this deck... :) This one looks to me like it should've gotten a lot more thumbs ups than it did... but whatever. Today's card is Gargoyle. I can't remember the last time I had that card, so I wanted to find a use for it that's hopefully new.
Post by: moehrpi on February 28, 2019, 08:54:41 pm
I wonder how many people can build this deck... :) This one looks to me like it should've gotten a lot more thumbs ups than it did... but whatever.
Nah, I'm missing an upped Amber Nymph...
What's your thought process behind choosing Anubis over Turquoise? Grey also would have fitted in there nicely. :silly:
Post by: InsignificantWeeaboo on February 28, 2019, 09:15:50 pm
I wonder how many people can build this deck... :) This one looks to me like it should've gotten a lot more thumbs ups than it did... but whatever.
Nah, I'm missing an upped Amber Nymph...
What's your thought process behind choosing Anubis over Turquoise? Grey also would have fitted in there nicely. :silly:
I think he chose Anubis for the extra 2 uses of it's skill with SoR.
Post by: dragonsdemesne on March 17, 2019, 05:04:43 pm
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The Gargoyle grabbow without graboids... over 50% thumbs ups are good :)
Today's card is shrieker. I think I'll pair it with silence, just so I can call the deck 'silent shriekers'.
edit: deck is rank 18 with 14-0 winrate. Thumbs ups is really high so far, too.
edit: rank5 with 19-1 winrate and almost perfect thumbs ups! Fairly surprising, given how dull the deck is, though...
Post by: dragonsdemesne on March 17, 2019, 05:05:33 pm
I wonder how many people can build this deck... :) This one looks to me like it should've gotten a lot more thumbs ups than it did... but whatever.
Nah, I'm missing an upped Amber Nymph...
What's your thought process behind choosing Anubis over Turquoise? Grey also would have fitted in there nicely. :silly:
Anubis was easier to play because of the deck's triple time mark and the mindgates using most of the aether quanta, as well as it working better with SoR as mentioned. Grey nymph was cut for space.
Post by: dragonsdemesne on March 25, 2019, 11:26:18 pm
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This deck was 21-1 and rank 5 at one point, so thumbs up ratio is skewed, but it was at very close to 100% at one point outside the top 10. I really don't get why, as it's a very basic deck, but whatever. Today's card is precognition, and I have a good idea for this one, but I'm not certain if I can design it in a way that the AI will play it correctly or not.
Post by: dragonsdemesne on April 14, 2019, 05:23:59 pm
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I thought this was going to do way better than it did in terms of winrate. There was probably some sort of quanta imbalance that I didn't work out properly in the 30 seconds I took to build the deck, or else it had my infamously bad luck with immorushes applied to it.
Today's card is minor vampire, and I can't recall using that one for a long time, so I decided to try something with it.
edit: 19-0 rank 10 with minor vampire so far. Sadly, the deck isn't very imaginative...
Post by: serprex on April 14, 2019, 09:52:00 pm
Today's card is minor vampire, and I can't recall using that one for a long time, so I decided to try something with it.
So does that mean you'll be using no upgrades in order to have minor vamps?
Post by: dragonsdemesne on April 19, 2019, 08:29:38 pm
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Post by: dragonsdemesne on May 15, 2019, 07:03:48 am
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The thumbs up ratio is obviously skewed on this deck due to the #1 placement. There's really nothing exciting about this deck other than that. Today's card is fractal, and there's always lots of fun things to do with fractal. (fractal anything is viable.... well, almost)
Post by: dragonsdemesne on June 05, 2019, 11:25:15 pm
Owing to the recent discontinuance of Flash by Chrome, I'll start doing my arena journey this way. I've always thought a fractal shard golem deck just sounds like such a cool idea, and with arena triple mark, it was easier to make happen. I've had an idea in my head for awhile now for a denial style deck, but I've been waiting for a decent card in one of the right elements, and I finally got one in the form of Hematite Golem. Sorry in advance... :)
edit: Heh, my evil denial deck is 20-1 and rank 6 so far after 6 days... it's even more evil than I thought!
Post by: dragonsdemesne on June 24, 2019, 11:40:10 pm
This deck kept getting wins at 1hp, either due to concedes or to just getting locked out early, but enough wins that it was probably mostly the latter. I'm going to try and do something similarly evil with discord :)