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Re: Elite Arbiter's Arena Decks https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=29492.msg410977#msg410977
« Reply #12 on: October 16, 2011, 02:15:29 pm »
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Manic Unstable Princess
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Record: 25-5 Age 2 43-8 Age 4 47-11 Age 4 1/2 {Lvl: 70 HP: 200 Wis 60 Int x2} Peak Rank: 50
(Now that SoSa got nerfed and ai knows how to use bombs, trying again, with -2 Phoenix -2 Explosions +2 Farenheit +2 Animate weapon, because of the Oracle card change.)
Record: 4-0 Age 1 14-4 Age 2 {Lvl: 72 HP: 200 Wis 60 Int x2} Peak Rank: ? ? Thumbs up: 7/14

Manic Unstable Princess; Lancer Edition
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Record: 8-0 Age 1 15-0 Age 2 24-0 Age 3 36-2 Age 4 41-5 Age 5 49-5 Age 6 55-7 Age 7 62-9 Age 8 65-23 Age 9 {Lvl: 74 HP: 200 Wis 60 Int x2} Peak Rank: 5 Thumbs up: I have no idea but I'm estimating about 30-35%

Anarchic Gluttony (? ? is Shard of Void)
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Record: 8-3 Age 1 14-5 Age 2 {Lvl: 71 HP: 200 Wis 60 Int x2} Peak Rank: None
Record: 6-0 Age 1 11-2 Age 2 {Lvl: 73 HP: 200 Wis 60 Int x2} Peak Rank: None Thumbs Up: 2/11

Dryad Haunt
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Record: 3-1 Age 1 {Lvl: 71 HP: 200 Wis 60 Int x2} Peak Rank: None

Thirst of Gaia
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Record: 27-3 Age 2 37-5 Age 4 53-11 Age 6 53-14 Age 6 1/2 {Lvl: 71 HP: 200 Wis 60 Int x2} Peak Rank: 8 Thumbs Up: 29/53

Seraph Vector
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Record: 6-0 Age 1 15-2 Age 2 16-3 Age 2.1 {Lvl: 72 HP: 200 Wis 60 Int x2} Peak Rank: 94 Thumbs Up: 7/16
Record: 11-6 Age 2 {Lvl: 72 HP: 200 Wis 60 Int x2} Peak Rank: N/A Thumbs Up: 7/11

Amethyst Gate
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Record: 13-3 Age 1 19-6 Age 2 26-9 Age 3 31-12 Age 4 {Lvl: 72 HP: 200 Wis 60 Int x2} Peak Rank: ? ? Thumbs Up: 10/31

Chronogenesis
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Record: 13-4 Age 2 {Lvl: 72 HP: 200 Wis 60 Int x2} Peak Rank: ? ? Thumbs Up: 5/13

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I guess I am, and since I was dipping into water, and I know that there's a lot of SoSa decks that manipulate poison, I had no reason 'not' to. I know its kind of a jerk move, but its a victory that I couldn't have gotten with vanilla blessed wyrms so I know at least that the trio itself gave me a win. It probably won't stay up too long though as its currently 3-3 and falling somewhat in ranking. It'll probably last at least two days though.

I'm kind of curious though, do people that check here and fight this deck check before they fight it to see the deck contents? Or after to check just what they were facing?

I also wonder who the people are that are ranking this low, by my estimates its just two people who voted, one 3 and the other 1 just recently. Weird, since all the feedback I've gotten has been generally positive.  :P


Anyway, changed it up to an Ice Dragon deck. The previous was at 8-9, so it was pretty close to being thrown out of the rankings. The deck is doing extremely well, although I'm not sure if there's more I could have done. On thinking about it, a forest spec might have been nice to take advantage of it, but for similar reasons to the Trident I'm deciding its best not to include it.

I made a couple extra decks that I'll want to test out at some point, although they're probably going to turn out to be flops. Might be striking gold with them though, who knows? It all depends on how effective  :water + Nightmare really is. Also added Infinite Possibility, a deck that... while it contains 6 SoSe's, the entire deck functions like a giant Serendipity Shard. Thats probably the best way to put it. Also, if you think about the random pends that don't actually support much anything, think about interactions between it and other cards. You'll get it, and its not nice.

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Re: Elite Arbiter's Arena Decks https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=29492.msg414690#msg414690
« Reply #13 on: October 23, 2011, 09:35:02 am »
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Ivory King
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Record: 15-0 Age 2 23-2 Age 3 {Lvl: 72 HP: 200 Wis 60 Int x2} Peak Rank: 43 Thumbs up: 7/23

Subterranean Banshee
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Record: 13-2 Age 2 20-4 Age 3 {Lvl: 73 HP: 200 Wis 60 Int x2} Peak Rank: 87 Thumbs up: 6/20

A Dark And Stormy Night
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Record: 8-1 Age 1 14-2 Age 2 20-6 Age 4 35-10 Age 6 {Lvl: 73 HP: 200 Wis 60 Int x2} Peak Rank: 38 Thumbs up: 18/35
v2 pictured, v1 had more air pends and a sky dragon, but less steals.
Record: 9-3 Age 1 11-5 Age 2 {Lvl: 74 HP: 200 Wis 60 Int x2} Peak Rank: 86 Thumbs up: 6/11

v3
Record: 22-7 Age 2 36-9 Age 4 48-11 Age 6 1/4 55-16 Age 7{Lvl: 75 HP: 200 Wis 60 Int x2} Peak Rank: 52 Thumbs up: 22/55
(Wow, 16/36 to 17/47. Approval seriously varies on audience)

Astrological Geometry
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Record: 4-2 Age 1 {Lvl: 74 HP: 200 Wis 60 Int x2} Peak Rank: N/A Thumbs up: 4/4

Kaleidoscope Decay
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Record: 11-7 Age 1 {Lvl: 74 HP: 200 Wis 60 Int x2} Peak Rank: N/A Thumbs up: 3/11

Maren Aquarium
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Record: 6-2 Age 1 10-4 Age 2 16-8 Age 3 {Lvl: 74 HP: 200 Wis 60 Int x2} Peak Rank: N/A Thumbs up: 6/16

The Unvanquishable Ruby Tyrant
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Record: 7-2 Age 1 10-4 Age 2 20-7 Age 3 22-11 Age 3 1/2 {Lvl: 74 HP: 200 Wis 60 Int x2} Peak Rank: N/A Thumbs up: 8/22
(Its amazing how a deck can have a 5:1 win-loss ratio for a day or two and then just sink straight to a 1:1. The meta shifts often.)
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Making those links was a little time consuming, but it makes the whole thing flow better.

In any case, Explosion as the oracle card, so I introduce you to the Manic Princess. Or you can just call her Octane, Hard Mode. For this deck I decided on this because it has been so long since I've actually 'seen' an Unstable Gas deck. My two worries right now are Reflection Shields, and SoSa. The latter I'm hoping the comp is smart enough to not blow Unstable Gasses until the SoSa is down. If not... this deck likely won't last long. But other than that she's ready to roll faces. Already had her first victim by time I set everything up.

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Re: Elite Arbiter's Arena Decks https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=29492.msg414693#msg414693
« Reply #14 on: October 23, 2011, 09:37:22 am »
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Manic Unstable Princess
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Record: None Yet {Lvl: 70 HP: 200 Wis 60 Int x2} Peak Rank: None Yet
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I guess I am, and since I was dipping into water, and I know that there's a lot of SoSa decks that manipulate poison, I had no reason 'not' to. I know its kind of a jerk move, but its a victory that I couldn't have gotten with vanilla blessed wyrms so I know at least that the trio itself gave me a win. It probably won't stay up too long though as its currently 3-3 and falling somewhat in ranking. It'll probably last at least two days though.

I'm kind of curious though, do people that check here and fight this deck check before they fight it to see the deck contents? Or after to check just what they were facing?

I also wonder who the people are that are ranking this low, by my estimates its just two people who voted, one 3 and the other 1 just recently. Weird, since all the feedback I've gotten has been generally positive.  :P


Anyway, changed it up to an Ice Dragon deck. The previous was at 8-9, so it was pretty close to being thrown out of the rankings. The deck is doing extremely well, although I'm not sure if there's more I could have done. On thinking about it, a forest spec might have been nice to take advantage of it, but for similar reasons to the Trident I'm deciding its best not to include it.

I made a couple extra decks that I'll want to test out at some point, although they're probably going to turn out to be flops. Might be striking gold with them though, who knows? It all depends on how effective  :water + Nightmare really is. Also added Infinite Possibility, a deck that... while it contains 6 SoSe's, the entire deck functions like a giant Serendipity Shard. Thats probably the best way to put it. Also, if you think about the random pends that don't actually support much anything, think about interactions between it and other cards. You'll get it, and its not nice.
I just gave your deck 1/0  :P.
But... it has no healing so a dune scorp deck will probably defeat it.
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Re: Elite Arbiter's Arena Decks https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=29492.msg414702#msg414702
« Reply #15 on: October 23, 2011, 09:49:38 am »
Funny thing that the commentary on that post is for a deck on the previous page and that commentary on the princess is on the next post, I hope 'that' isn't confusing to people.

Anyway i'm not so sure. It ultimately comes down to if the comp is smart enough to hold back Unstable Gas when it'll do nothing but heal your opponent. If it know better then your opponent has basically farenheit and a couple Phoenix to feed it life for the SoSa. And unlike most times it can't break the chain, if it does it gets 3+ Unstables to the face. Actually... screw not knowing. I'm going to grab a SoSa deck and test this out myself, and edit the result into this post in a few minutes.

.... nope, it doesn't know better. Its a real shame.

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Re: Elite Arbiter's Arena Decks https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=29492.msg414711#msg414711
« Reply #16 on: October 23, 2011, 10:30:38 am »
I love Infinite Possibility. I shall try it. :]

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Re: Elite Arbiter's Arena Decks https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=29492.msg416567#msg416567
« Reply #17 on: October 27, 2011, 05:22:13 pm »
In any case, Splat is making the princess fall more, so time to do something weird, post a deck when the first day is nearly half done. I'm not sure how I feel about this deck, I might just switch it out tomorrow if it does bad and the next oracle card gives me inspiration. Then again, it 'might' do well. Oracle card is Butterfly effect.

But honestly, I ran it through my test chamber about 6 times, and 4 matches it drew a single tower in the first 14 cards. Did... did I make something wrong with the deck or is it getting really bad draws against my test runs? Because I'd think 14/41 or 28/82 would usually give about 3 Towers in the starting hand.

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Re: Elite Arbiter's Arena Decks https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=29492.msg417833#msg417833
« Reply #18 on: October 30, 2011, 07:56:53 am »
New deck, this time Thirst of Gaia is up to the plate. It has a bit of a problem with SoSa, but SoSa just got another nerf, so it shouldn't be as prevalent. In any case, I'm not sure at all what type of deck can beat this without trouble, but it probably involves sanctuary and/or a SNova rush that can get its stuff out before my quanta lockdown happens. The one problem I have with the deck is the tendency to occasionally Mitosis the Nymph, which isn't meant to get mitosis but to adrenaline anything that my adrenaline spell doesn't.

Also, wow. Its doing even better than I anticipated. And people love it considering most people hate denial decks. Its like a horrifyingly beautiful flower blossoming. Anyway, until an active measure of looking at your thumbs-up count outright for each deck comes out, I'll be counting it via the electrum. Although this deck is headed directly for top ten and its entirely likely to hit #1, since it just turned Age 2 and its already at rank #25 with Rating: 372.

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Re: Elite Arbiter's Arena Decks https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=29492.msg419534#msg419534
« Reply #19 on: November 02, 2011, 07:43:44 pm »
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Peak Rank: 13 Thumbs Up: 18/30
Sorry for offtopic, but how is it possible to see Thumbs up/down ratio?

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Re: Elite Arbiter's Arena Decks https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=29492.msg419552#msg419552
« Reply #20 on: November 02, 2011, 08:44:43 pm »
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Sorry for offtopic, but how is it possible to see Thumbs up/down ratio?
Its actually partly ontopic, and proof that I should post new things instead of editing my information into previous posts because it is less apparent then when I put it in. I'm using the electrum I gain from the win/loss to count how many up-down ranks I receive. I can tell if I gain 20 elec that the victory was thumbs upped, and if I only gain 10 they put thumbs down.

Also, its turning out that right now with thumbs up it is only about 10-12, and without it is about 5-6 in point ranking up. At first i thought I was wrong, but looking at gaining 2 more wins and going from 412 to 425 it convinces me. Although they might have both been thumbs down since I just hit rank 10 which I think increases elec gain, which will seriously screw with my thumb counting.

Also, Thirst of Gaia is almost guaranteed its #1 slot, long as people don't A. give plat a drought and make it get old without many more matches, B. vote it down 'because' its a high rank, or C. If the sheer fact that point gain is so low now screws its last home stretch over.

(Also, OP edited because it might not be apparent to a lot of people to look at the first post for the current deck)

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Re: Elite Arbiter's Arena Decks (Current Deck always in OP) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=29492.msg419705#msg419705
« Reply #21 on: November 03, 2011, 03:33:06 am »
Just EM'ed it (for a nice 904 electrums) with an Early Otyugh+Bone Wall. Eclipse came too late to eat the wall with the Adrenalines I think.

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Re: Elite Arbiter's Arena Decks (Current Deck always in OP) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=29492.msg421016#msg421016
« Reply #22 on: November 05, 2011, 05:58:02 pm »
Well, as it turns out the hp loss did a number on Thirst of Gaia, and it is losing a huge amount now, and I got Farenheit as my oracle card, so while I was hesitant to use it at first, I realized that I can just use Manic Unstable Princess with it. We'll see how well she does this time with the SoSa nerf and AI improvements against everything, although I'm hoping that because its platinum I don't get thumbs down'd for using fire at 'all' like I'd expect in Silver league.

It was going pretty well, but a new deck it up now. No time to post it, but I'll have it up tomorrow right now.

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Re: Elite Arbiter's Arena Decks (Current Deck always in OP) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=29492.msg424674#msg424674
« Reply #23 on: November 13, 2011, 08:06:19 am »
Well, lesson learned. Don't use Supernova in your deck, no matter what. Because the mere presence of supernova takes down upvotes by approximately 50%, unless there was something about Amethyst Gate that would generate such a response. But in any case, Time Pendulum is the card, so I'm going with a Ghost of the Past theme. I'm worried about it being ineffective, but I'm assuming it'll at least do moderately well.

And well, mystic of the lake was a utter flop at a whopping 3-6, and my oracle card is death pendulum. I really do apologize for putting this deck in, its kind of wrong that I feel dirty using this oracle card at all since before 1.29 I wouldn't have blinked at posting a Death/Darkness deck. I did have some inventive ideas for a fire-death duo, utilizing the graveyards for the immolation fodder, but I couldn't get the quanta to work out to be sufficiently fast with anything else to show for the creative 'track'.

Being completely honest about it, electrum-wise getting a creative deck is actually 'more' effective at getting things even if it has almost a 2-1 ratio. But I feel like using the  :death:darkness will merit 0 Thumbs-Up, and I've got to test that so if this hypothesis is false I can adjust my estimates on how much it takes to 'topple' a top arena deck of Death.

 

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