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Drag's Creative Deck Outlet https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=29403.msg375009#msg375009
« on: August 03, 2011, 05:23:45 am »
This seems to be what all the cool kids are doing these days. But instead of posting my successful decks, I'm going to post my creative and fun decks. Honestly, I got bored putting up Fire, Rainbow, Quanta Denial, etc. decks. I might be losing out on some electrum, but I'm having more fun playing around with the deck possibilities. The arena deck-building has drawn me into the game again.

So here's three recent decks to get things started. So here are my decks:

Improved Mutation2x Draw2x Mark30 Upgrades200HP
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[I didn't have any images from play-testing so I went into the trainer to get this snapshot.]

It's a little short on death and entropy quanta sometimes. Plague, Mutation, and Rewinds for CC (Rewinds also double for Skeletons); Explosion and Steal for basic PC; Photons and Skellies for Mutation fodder.

Vanadium Warden2x Draw2x Mark30 Upgrades200HP
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Buffed Wardens for CC with flanking Spiders to web airborne creatures. Some more creatures + PC rounds out the deck. Unfortunately, the AI tends to bless the other creatures instead of the Wardens.
Mitosis2x Draw2x Mark30 Upgrades200HP
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Cats > Mitosis > Soul Catcher > Condors > Mitosis > Bone Wall = Growing flock of birds (both in size and quantity) and growing defense. Plague helps control Fractal RoLs and spawned FFs. Unfortunately the AI makes a couple mistakes in playing this deck. They use abilities in play order instead of birds first then cats. And mid-game they mitosis too many birds so that they stop growing.  :(
Pharaoh2x Draw2x Mark30 Upgrades200HP4-2
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Decided to avoid the obvious Gravity synergy, though I was tempted to show off my foil Chimera. Instead I opted to try to make a synergy with the swarming ability of Pharaoh. Feral Bonds give lots of healing and Thorn Carapace helps provide some CC. I added Fire to help control those pesky Pulverizers since I was permanent-heavy. I actually wanted to use Cremations instead of Towers (non-permanent fire gain + gravity for scarabs) but the AI doesn't want to sacrifice Scarabs.
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Nothing too original here. I tried to make a rainbow deck with only Death Stalkers for creatures but it didn't really work so well. This one is pretty straightforward.
Lava Destroyer2x Draw2x Mark30 Upgrades200HP8-0
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As you can probably tell, I like trio decks. They are infinitely better and more flexible with 2-3x Mark.

So this deck is pretty straightforward on how it works. Both Lava Destroyers and Steam Machines grow like crazy. A few PC and CC cards help round out the deck. I originally had Wardens, as you can see in the first screenshot, but decided that BBs are better since games didn't last too long. Plus, the Wardens didn't always use their ability when they had quanta which was annoying. I wanted to add a couple of Tridents but Earth quanta was too tight.
Archangel2x Draw2x Mark30 Upgrades200HP21-1
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The deck's a simple concept similar to Raging Angels. Here I use Accelerate to get potentially unlimited growth with the healing from Angels. The main downside is that the AI seems to target Angels over Chargers messing up the ability to keep accelerated creatures alive. However, I got to show off my foil Chimeras. :D
Silence2x Draw2x Mark30 Upgrades200HP4-0
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It's delicious when the AI can fill your hand with Ghosts and then Silence you the same turn. Unfortunately though, not too many people got to experience that since the deck didn't get much plays. Oh well.

I tried to maximize the idea of hand control so I used both Silence and Nightmare. I started off with the Trio version adding Rewinds to add a third kind of hand control as well as Steals for some PC. But with only 6 and 7 Pends, it wasn't as consistent as I would have liked. So I switched to the SN variant and added Demons and Antimatter for CC and BH and Discord for some light quanta control. I wanted to use a third Demon instead of the Antimatter but decided on 2 because every once in a while the AI would Nightmare the Demons because they didn't get to play any Ghosts yet. Although this one was much better and consistent than the trio, it sometimes clogged. Looking back, I probably should've dropped the Discord and added another Entropy Pendulum.
Wings2x Draw2x Mark30 Upgrades200HP7-1
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Another kind of poison stall, though a bit heavier on creatures. Nothing fancy. I probably should've replaced a Dragon for another Pillar though to speed up the early game.
Steel Golem33-0Rank 204 Days
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(I forgot to take screenshots before taking the deck down. Here's one from the Trainer.

I tried to take advantage of the Steel Golem's high HP with Overdrive. Unfortunately, I only have 3 upped Accelerates and using both upped and unupped variants mixes with the AI's stupidity like Ammonia and Bleach. So instead of more Accelerates, I threw in some good 'ole Chargers. I packed QS + BH to slow the player down while the AI gets his combo going. A couple Pulverizers help round out the deck. This deck did surprisingly well having an unbroken 33 win streak and topping out at Rank 20 before I pulled the plug on it.

I really need to upgrade the last 3 Accelerations. Unfortunately, I just blew my little savings upping another FG deck I wanted to try.

Gravity Pendulum48-3Rank 104 Days
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I've been doing a lot of Gravity decks lately it seems. RPs work well both for CC and combo-ing with Firemasters. Unstoppables and Ablaze help against decks with Shields and Antimatter. For having so few Pillars/Pendulums upped, this deck did really well I think.

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Re: Drag's Creative Deck Outlet https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=29403.msg375111#msg375111
« Reply #1 on: August 03, 2011, 01:58:53 pm »
I like your perspective on this and appreciate the fun decks. Would you remember how they fared while they were up? I'm always curious to see if certain new/original ideas might end up doing well.

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Re: Drag's Creative Deck Outlet https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=29403.msg375176#msg375176
« Reply #2 on: August 03, 2011, 04:41:03 pm »
lol big fan of the mitocats deck
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Re: Drag's Creative Deck Outlet https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=29403.msg375468#msg375468
« Reply #3 on: August 04, 2011, 02:55:14 pm »
I like your perspective on this and appreciate the fun decks. Would you remember how they fared while they were up? I'm always curious to see if certain new/original ideas might end up doing well.
Sorry, I don't have stats, but I'll try to keep track from here on out.

lol big fan of the mitocats deck
Thanks! I like it a lot too. Just wish the AI could play it better.


Kind of a meh deck yesterday.

Pharaoh, 2x Draw, 2x Mark, 30 Upgrades, 200HP, 4-2 record
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Decided to avoid the obvious Gravity synergy, though I was tempted to show off my foil Chimeras. Instead I opted to try to make a synergy with the swarming ability of Pharaoh. Feral Bonds give lots of healing and Thorn Carapace helps provide some CC. I added Fire to help control those pesky Pulverizers since I was permanent-heavy. I actually wanted to use Cremations instead of Towers (non-permanent fire gain + gravity for scarabs) but the AI doesn't want to sacrifice Scarabs.

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Re: Drag's Creative Deck Outlet https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=29403.msg376344#msg376344
« Reply #4 on: August 06, 2011, 01:41:19 pm »
Here's my take on a Poison Stall.

Death Stalker, 2x Draw, 2x Mark, 30 Upgrades, 200HP, 10-1 record
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Nothing too original here. I tried to make a rainbow deck with only Death Stalkers for creatures but it didn't really work so well. This one is pretty straightforward.


I spun a Lava Golem today.  :D  I made a unique trio with it. And no, it does not use Cremations.

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Re: Drag's Creative Deck Outlet https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=29403.msg376713#msg376713
« Reply #5 on: August 07, 2011, 08:42:37 am »
Lava Destroyer, 2x Draw, 2x Mark, 30 Upgrades, 200HP, 8-0 record
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As you can probably tell, I like trio decks. They are infinitely better and more flexible with 2-3x Mark.

So this deck is pretty straightforward on how it works. Both Lava Destroyers and Steam Machines grow like crazy. A few PC and CC cards help round out the deck. I originally had Wardens, as you can see in the first screenshot, but decided that BBs are better since games didn't last too long. Plus, the Wardens didn't always use their ability when they had quanta which was annoying. I wanted to add a couple of Tridents but Earth quanta was too tight.
Druidic Staff up next!

Edit:
Well, so much for putting up something interesting with Druidic Staff. I tried about a dozen different deck concepts but I didn't like any of them. I think from here on out, I'm going to skip all weapons and shields (except maybe Phase Shields and Wings). So instead of Druidic Staff, here's …

Archangel, 2x Draw, 2x Mark, 30 Upgrades, 200HP, 21-1 record
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The deck's a simple concept similar to Raging Angels. Here I use Accelerate to get potentially unlimited growth with the healing from Angels. The main downside is that the AI seems to target Angels over Chargers messing up the ability to keep accelerated creatures alive. However, I got to show off my foil Chimeras. :D

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Re: Drag's Creative Deck Outlet https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=29403.msg380371#msg380371
« Reply #6 on: August 15, 2011, 01:50:33 am »
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It's delicious when the AI can fill your hand with Ghosts and then Silence you the same turn. Unfortunately though, not too many people got to experience that since the deck didn't get much plays. Oh well.

I tried to maximize the idea of hand control so I used both Silence and Nightmare. I started off with the Trio version adding Rewinds to add a third kind of hand control as well as Steals for some PC. But with only 6 and 7 Pends, it wasn't as consistent as I would have liked. So I switched to the SN variant and added Demons and Antimatter for CC and BH and Discord for some light quanta control. I wanted to use a third Demon instead of the Antimatter but decided on 2 because every once in a while the AI would Nightmare the Demons because they didn't get to play any Ghosts yet. Although this one was much better and consistent than the trio, it sometimes clogged. Looking back, I probably should've dropped the Discord and added another Entropy Pendulum.
Wings, 2x Draw, 2x Mark, 30 Upgrades, 200HP, 7-1 record
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Another kind of poison stall, though a bit heavier on creatures. Nothing fancy. I probably should've replaced a Dragon for another Pillar though to speed up the early game.

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Re: Drag's Creative Deck Outlet https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=29403.msg380429#msg380429
« Reply #7 on: August 15, 2011, 05:53:58 am »
I love the frontline medics best so far (esp with the foil chim art ofc!).

And I understand you want to build fun and original decks, it'd still be nice to know how they did though. Some sort of indiation of the win:loss ratio or top rank would be very nice.


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Re: Drag's Creative Deck Outlet https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=29403.msg380497#msg380497
« Reply #8 on: August 15, 2011, 02:21:50 pm »
I love the frontline medics best so far (esp with the foil chim art ofc!).

And I understand you want to build fun and original decks, it'd still be nice to know how they did though. Some sort of indiation of the win:loss ratio or top rank would be very nice.
Thanks! As for how well they're doing, I put that on the first line right above the deck pic with all the other info. I guess I should try to do something nifty like ffun to make all the info stand out. FYI, Frontline Medics went 21-1.

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I'll also try to start adding the top ranking. I'm also going to try to leave them up a few days instead of just 1-2.

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I've updated the first post to use those nifty tables like on ffun's thread.

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Re: Drag's Creative Deck Outlet https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=29403.msg381084#msg381084
« Reply #9 on: August 17, 2011, 03:17:19 am »
I'm an organization junkie, so that's why I have tables with data all neat and sorted out. Yay, I'm glad I could be an inspiration on something!

It's a shame you didn't leave the frontline medics deck a little longer to see how far it could go! :) As I've mentioned in my thread, I think the AI prioritizes creatures with higher HP for acceleration, therefore it keeps going for the archangels. You would need to choose another creature with higher hp (but it would make you loose the momentum) or hope for chargers hitting the table before archangels. Anyway, results seemed very good anyway while they've lasted - and that's with the AI playing it wrong!

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Re: Drag's Creative Deck Outlet https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=29403.msg381210#msg381210
« Reply #10 on: August 17, 2011, 01:09:45 pm »
I'm an organization junkie, so that's why I have tables with data all neat and sorted out. Yay, I'm glad I could be an inspiration on something!

It's a shame you didn't leave the frontline medics deck a little longer to see how far it could go! :) As I've mentioned in my thread, I think the AI prioritizes creatures with higher HP for acceleration, therefore it keeps going for the archangels. You would need to choose another creature with higher hp (but it would make you loose the momentum) or hope for chargers hitting the table before archangels. Anyway, results seemed very good anyway while they've lasted - and that's with the AI playing it wrong!
Yeah, looking back, I probably should have left it up another couple days. As for the play order, it was quite common for the AI to have enough Gravity Q on turn 3 to play both a Charger and an Acceleration (like in the screenshot). Unfortunately, usually the first Angel also got Accelerated.

Steel Golem33-0Rank 204 Days
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(I forgot to take screenshots before taking the deck down. Here's one from the Trainer.

I tried to take advantage of the Steel Golem's high HP with Overdrive. Unfortunately, I only have 3 upped Accelerates and using both upped and unupped variants mixes with the AI's stupidity like Ammonia and Bleach. So instead of more Accelerates, I threw in some good 'ole Chargers. I packed QS + BH to slow the player down while the AI gets his combo going. A couple Pulverizers help round out the deck. This deck did surprisingly well having an unbroken 33 win streak and topping out at Rank 20 before I pulled the plug on it.

I really need to upgrade the last 3 Accelerations. Unfortunately, I just blew my little savings upping another FG deck I wanted to try.

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Re: Drag's Creative Deck Outlet https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=29403.msg381211#msg381211
« Reply #11 on: August 17, 2011, 01:16:26 pm »
I love that Steel Golem deck aswell! And on top of that it did really good. Nice way of making use of that massive HP, Steel Golems are monsters alright!
3 BB's would have been cooler then 3 SS though. The deck doesnt generate that much earth cause it spends all on creatures so SS isn't that effective.  BB would have been great to stall the opponent for a while.

 

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