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Re: What's up with vegans? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=64285.msg1260712#msg1260712
« Reply #24 on: March 19, 2017, 12:10:59 am »
Are vegans opposed to anti-bacterial handwash because it kills off tons of living microorganisms?

(This is a serious question.)

Doctors are against anti-bacterial handwash. The FDA banned it.

Doctors aren't vegans.
... By default, anyway.

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Re: What's up with vegans? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=64285.msg1260713#msg1260713
« Reply #25 on: March 19, 2017, 12:12:56 am »
Are vegans opposed to anti-bacterial handwash because it kills off tons of living microorganisms?
Most of them kill plants to eat. I don't think they care for non-animal deaths.

Doctors are against anti-bacterial handwash. The FDA banned it.
It's not like they did what they sold any better than regular soap anyways  :silly:

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Re: What's up with vegans? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=64285.msg1260714#msg1260714
« Reply #26 on: March 19, 2017, 12:13:31 am »
Doctors aren't vegans.
... By default, anyway.

The point is that anti-bacterial handwash is bad regardless of a vegan's opinion on it.
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Re: What's up with vegans? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=64285.msg1260715#msg1260715
« Reply #27 on: March 19, 2017, 12:14:03 am »
i am vegeterian from 2010, i know a lot of vegans and vegetarians (specially on fb), most of them don't eat nothing that came from animals, but at the same they give these things to they're dogs



every vegan or vegeterian as his of own vision of what is right and what is wrong, so something like this

Are vegans opposed to anti-bacterial handwash because it kills off tons of living microorganisms?

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Re: What's up with vegans? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=64285.msg1260716#msg1260716
« Reply #28 on: March 19, 2017, 12:14:14 am »
By the conventional definition, vegans care about animals, which is a category most microorganisms do not fit into.
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Re: What's up with vegans? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=64285.msg1260717#msg1260717
« Reply #29 on: March 19, 2017, 12:15:42 am »
But to what end? If you take care of your chickens, and they lay eggs and then leave them, how is it immoral to eat the eggs?

You don't see it as immoral, they do. Here is a vegan explaining their viewpoint: http://www.theveganwoman.com/is-it-ethical-to-eat-eggs-from-home-grown-chickens/

That just opens a whole new can of worms.
Let's say you have already bought 2 chickens, one from a battery farm and on from a kind and reliable breeder.
Would being vegan mean you only eat eggs from the chicken from the breeder, or from none of them because it's "abusing animals", or from both of them because the damage has already been done and to not eat the eggs would be needless waste?
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Re: What's up with vegans? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=64285.msg1260718#msg1260718
« Reply #30 on: March 19, 2017, 12:23:33 am »
i am vegeterian from 2010, i know a lot of vegans and vegetarians (specially on fb), most of them don't eat nothing that came from animals, but at the same they give these things to they're dogs



every vegan or vegeterian as his of own vision of what is right and what is wrong, so something like this

Are vegans opposed to anti-bacterial handwash because it kills off tons of living microorganisms?
is possible
Probably because dogs are carnivores, physically incapable of sustaining themselves without meat. Humans have a choice, being able to digest plant matter as well as meat
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Re: What's up with vegans? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=64285.msg1260719#msg1260719
« Reply #31 on: March 19, 2017, 12:24:35 am »
Would being vegan mean you only eat eggs...

No, being vegan means you don't eat eggs.
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Re: What's up with vegans? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=64285.msg1260720#msg1260720
« Reply #32 on: March 19, 2017, 12:26:25 am »
Would being vegan mean you only eat eggs...

No, being vegan means you don't eat eggs.
I believe that was meant in the context to the article you linked, the first paragraph of which went along the lines of "veganism isn't about the strict definition of veganism." Of course, this being a philosophy topic...  :P
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Re: What's up with vegans? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=64285.msg1260721#msg1260721
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Re: What's up with vegans? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=64285.msg1260722#msg1260722
« Reply #34 on: March 19, 2017, 12:34:51 am »
Probably because dogs are carnivores, physically incapable of sustaining themselves without meat. Humans have a choice, being able to digest plant matter as well as meat

yep but a vegan still pay money for a murdered animal(s); is a huge contradiction, it's like the life of the dog it's more important than the life of the cow/pig; this is called speciesism, one of the most discussed topics in private fb groups

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Re: What's up with vegans? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=64285.msg1260723#msg1260723
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one of the most discussed topics in private fb groups

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