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Soul https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=31435.msg397550#msg397550
« on: September 22, 2011, 11:23:13 pm »
What is a soul? What is required of a being for it to have a soul? Also, if you die, what happens to your soul?

And also, if you manage to somehow replace each lobe of your brain with a microchip that perfectly simulates the replaced lobe, (you can live without some lobes, see Phineas Gage (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phineas_Gage)) are you still alive, and do you (or it) still have a soul?

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Re: Soul https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=31435.msg397552#msg397552
« Reply #1 on: September 22, 2011, 11:27:08 pm »
The following question may or may not be relevant:
Who are you?
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Re: Soul https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=31435.msg397555#msg397555
« Reply #2 on: September 22, 2011, 11:41:05 pm »
The following question may or may not be relevant:
Who are you?
In what way do you mean this? I see myself as a normal (who doesn't see themself as normal? :)) ) person. How would who I am affect a soul? Maybe because religions define souls differently? I'm agnostic.

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Re: Soul https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=31435.msg397565#msg397565
« Reply #3 on: September 23, 2011, 12:14:15 am »
The following question may or may not be relevant:
Who are you?
In what way do you mean this?
Are you your soul?
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Re: Soul https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=31435.msg397586#msg397586
« Reply #4 on: September 23, 2011, 12:45:28 am »
The soul is an outdated concept rooted in a dualistic understanding of human beings (i.e., a spiritual "ghost" occupying and controlling a physical "machine"). Modern science shows us that every subjective experience happens through physical mechanisms - e.g., electrical and chemical signals in the nervous system. Your subjective sense of self is completely dependent on your nervous system.

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Re: Soul https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=31435.msg397608#msg397608
« Reply #5 on: September 23, 2011, 01:32:36 am »
The soul is an outdated concept rooted in a dualistic understanding of human beings (i.e., a spiritual "ghost" occupying and controlling a physical "machine"). Modern science shows us that every subjective experience happens through physical mechanisms - e.g., electrical and chemical signals in the nervous system. Your subjective sense of self is completely dependent on your nervous system.
or is your nervous system completely dependent on your subjective sense of self?
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Re: Soul https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=31435.msg397622#msg397622
« Reply #6 on: September 23, 2011, 01:51:49 am »
Answer: Both. It's self-causing.

My view: The soul is what keeps all your other control mechanisms (heart, logic, conciousness, d**k, etc.) from dissolving into a big inter-body war.
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Re: Soul https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=31435.msg397624#msg397624
« Reply #7 on: September 23, 2011, 01:55:49 am »
Answer: Both. It's self-causing.

My view: The soul is what keeps all your other control mechanisms (heart, logic, conciousness, d**k, etc.) from dissolving into a big inter-body war.
Doesn't the Ego also keep those mechanisms in control too?
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Re: Soul https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=31435.msg397630#msg397630
« Reply #8 on: September 23, 2011, 02:14:09 am »
Answer: Both. It's self-causing.

My view: The soul is what keeps all your other control mechanisms (heart, logic, conciousness, d**k, etc.) from dissolving into a big inter-body war.
Doesn't the Ego also keep those mechanisms in control too?
the ego is a psychological concept in one of several competing theories, not a physical thing.
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Re: Soul https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=31435.msg397633#msg397633
« Reply #9 on: September 23, 2011, 02:16:38 am »
Answer: Both. It's self-causing.

My view: The soul is what keeps all your other control mechanisms (heart, logic, conciousness, d**k, etc.) from dissolving into a big inter-body war.
Doesn't the Ego also keep those mechanisms in control too?
the ego is a psychological concept in one of several competing theories, not a physical thing.
But neither is the soul.
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Re: Soul https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=31435.msg397639#msg397639
« Reply #10 on: September 23, 2011, 02:31:48 am »
Answer: Both. It's self-causing.

My view: The soul is what keeps all your other control mechanisms (heart, logic, conciousness, d**k, etc.) from dissolving into a big inter-body war.
Doesn't the Ego also keep those mechanisms in control too?
the ego is a psychological concept in one of several competing theories, not a physical thing.
But neither is the soul.
my point is that "the soul does not exist because the nervous system explains everything" is a valid argument, saying "the soul does not exist because the ego is what keeps mechanisms in check" is not.
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Re: Soul https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=31435.msg397642#msg397642
« Reply #11 on: September 23, 2011, 02:38:06 am »
I was told by a good friend the Soul is just one of our 3 parts. Body Soul Spirit. His theory was we are like a tape recorder. the Soul records on to the Spirit or vice-versa I'm not sure which. and the Body of course is the housing.

I don't how many religions believe in the 3 parts. Animals I have been told do not have a soul.
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