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Do you have to love your parents? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=40745.msg504479#msg504479
« on: May 27, 2012, 03:07:23 am »
As the title says, do you have to love you mother and father?
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Re: Do you have to love your parents? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=40745.msg504486#msg504486
« Reply #1 on: May 27, 2012, 03:24:31 am »
No.
More detail: I do not think there is an inherent moral obligation to adopt all of your parent's goals as if they were your own simply because they are the origin of your genetic material and one likely went through pregnancy.
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Re: Do you have to love your parents? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=40745.msg504492#msg504492
« Reply #2 on: May 27, 2012, 03:47:41 am »
Certainly not. If your parents were drug addicts who beat you half to death when you were a child and left the country, leaving you for dead, before you were found and adopted by foster parents, does it make any sense to love them?

Speaking of foster parents, do they count, or are we talking about biological parents?
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Re: Do you have to love your parents? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=40745.msg504498#msg504498
« Reply #3 on: May 27, 2012, 03:52:56 am »
Certainly not. If your parents were drug addicts who beat you half to death when you were a child and left the country, leaving you for dead, before you were found and adopted by foster parents, does it make any sense to love them?

Speaking of foster parents, do they count, or are we talking about biological parents?
Any parents.
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Re: Do you have to love your parents? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=40745.msg504500#msg504500
« Reply #4 on: May 27, 2012, 03:54:22 am »
No.
More detail: I do not think there is an inherent moral obligation to adopt all of your parent's goals as if they were your own simply because they are the origin of your genetic material and one likely went through pregnancy.
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Re: Do you have to love your parents? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=40745.msg504559#msg504559
« Reply #5 on: May 27, 2012, 07:36:52 am »
We are meant to love others (love as in act selflessly towards). That would include our parents, whether they were excellent or terrible ones. However if by love you are referring to an emotional fondness or some sort of blind acceptance of their actions, then no certainly not.

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Re: Do you have to love your parents? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=40745.msg504566#msg504566
« Reply #6 on: May 27, 2012, 08:03:30 am »
We are meant to love others (love as in act selflessly towards). That would include our parents, whether they were excellent or terrible ones. However if by love you are referring to an emotional fondness or some sort of blind acceptance of their actions, then no certainly not.

Agreed.

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Re: Do you have to love your parents? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=40745.msg504567#msg504567
« Reply #7 on: May 27, 2012, 08:05:09 am »
We are meant to love others (love as in act selflessly towards). That would include our parents, whether they were excellent or terrible ones. However if by love you are referring to an emotional fondness or some sort of blind acceptance of their actions, then no certainly not.

Agreed.

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Re: Do you have to love your parents? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=40745.msg504573#msg504573
« Reply #8 on: May 27, 2012, 08:38:34 am »
From dictionary.com, verb (used with object)
15.to have love or affection for: All her pupils love her. No.
16.to have a profoundly tender, passionate affection for (another person). I do not believe so, see scenario above
17.to have a strong liking for; take great pleasure in: to love music. No, see the druggy scenario above.
18.to need or require; benefit greatly from: Plants love sunlight. Perhaps,but so long as someone provides for the child they should be fine, so no.
19.to embrace and kiss (someone), as a lover. No.
20.to have sexual intercourse with. Certainly no.

So I would say no, though I agree with YoungSot based on that definition.
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Re: Do you have to love your parents? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=40745.msg504595#msg504595
« Reply #9 on: May 27, 2012, 10:57:11 am »
I believe that asking "Do you have to love your parents?" is the same thing as asking "Do you have to cry when you're sad?"
The is no moral/social/intellectual obligations...You just do. And if you don't; well, whatever.

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Re: Do you have to love your parents? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=40745.msg504605#msg504605
« Reply #10 on: May 27, 2012, 11:33:36 am »
I believe that asking "Do you have to love your parents?" is the same thing as asking "Do you have to cry when you're sad?"
The is no moral/social/intellectual obligations...You just do. And if you don't; well, whatever.
I rarely cry when sad.
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Re: Do you have to love your parents? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=40745.msg504708#msg504708
« Reply #11 on: May 27, 2012, 07:17:07 pm »
We are meant to love others (love as in act selflessly towards). That would include our parents, whether they were excellent or terrible ones.
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