Could god make a rock so large...

[nerd1]

the full text of the paradox is usually something like
could god make a rock so large that he couldn't lift it?
the answer is yes/no. God is, by definition, omnipotent. He could simultaneously be able to lift it and not lift it, and not violate any laws of physics. Omnipotent beings are not bound by physics, or even logic.

Related:

Spoiler for Hidden:

theological proof of free will:

• God says (or implies) that there is free will
• God is omnipotent

Q.E.D. there is free will

[Tiscooler]

Playing devil's advocate on why the stone paradox means nothing.

The issue that theists take with this argument is that it takes the same untenable stance as the issue of an unstoppable force colliding with an unmovable object. The fact that an unstoppable force can exist in a universe makes the concept of an unmovable object a logical absurdity and impossibility, making the ideas mutually exclusive.

You can compare the root problem with the question to another: What's north of the north pole? No such point exists, the question is inherently flawed.

Assuming a universe where God exists, that would mean no object could possess an unliftable state in the same universe as an omnipotent god, with god's power being the exclusive maximum point of the set of strength.

If you're familiar with the concept of mathematical infinity, it is also similar. Adding one to infinity is still infinity. If an object weighed infinity plus one pounds, and god could lift infinity pounds, because of infinity's nature his strength would still potentially be equal or greater than the stone's weight.

[nerd1]

Playing devil's advocate on why the stone paradox means nothing.

The issue that theists take with this argument is that it takes the same untenable stance as the issue of an unstoppable force colliding with an unmovable object. The fact that an unstoppable force can exist in a universe makes the concept of an unmovable object a logical absurdity and impossibility, making the ideas mutually exclusive.

You can compare the root problem with the question to another: What's north of the north pole? No such point exists, the question is inherently flawed.

Assuming a universe where God exists, that would mean no object could possess an unliftable state in the same universe as an omnipotent god, with god's power being the exclusive maximum point of the set of strength.

If you're familiar with the concept of mathematical infinity, it is also similar. Adding one to infinity is still infinity. If an object weighed infinity plus one pounds, and god could lift infinity pounds, because of infinity's nature his strength would still potentially be equal or greater than the stone's weight.

I believe the reason this is a paradox is that when people are asked this, if they say he could create one, then that would negate his omnipotence by having something he couldn't do. If he couldn't, having something he couldn't create would also negate his omnipotence, therefore a paradox.

[theratiscool]

When sr.Isaac first discoverd the laws of nature the church said "blasphemy". Later the pope died from the roof collapsing. The church later recensie this as a fact, but twisted it and said it was sent from 'god'. Manny of this situations happen in history.

[Jenkar]

Supposing god exists and is omnipotent (second is untrue in my religion), the answer is yes.
Why?
God creates said rock.
His power THEN adapt to allow him to lift it.
Hence, god created a rock he could not lift.
Why does this work? Omnipotence means being able to do everything. If there are new things that appear that are impossible for your omnipotence, a new omnipotency is able to do those things.

[Arum]

Supposing god exists and is omnipotent (second is untrue in my religion), the answer is yes.
Why?
God creates said rock.
His power THEN adapt to allow him to lift it.
Hence, god created a rock he could not lift.
Why does this work? Omnipotence means being able to do everything. If there are new things that appear that are impossible for your omnipotence, a new omnipotency is able to do those things.

Ah, but the problem is that he the rock is no longer too big for him to lift, negating his omnipotence.
It's a paradox.

[Jenkar]

Supposing god exists and is omnipotent (second is untrue in my religion), the answer is yes.
Why?
God creates said rock.
His power THEN adapt to allow him to lift it.
Hence, god created a rock he could not lift.
Why does this work? Omnipotence means being able to do everything. If there are new things that appear that are impossible for your omnipotence, a new omnipotency is able to do those things.

Ah, but the problem is that he the rock is no longer too big for him to lift, negating his omnipotence.
It's a paradox.

How does it negate his omnipotence?

[Drake_XIV]

If anything, the answer comes down to that God could make a rock large enough that he couldn't carry at that point.  Once created, he can now lift it to fit into the omnipotence.  Like previously said, it's like adding to infinity.  When will it end?

[buritosrfood]

I am completely lost about what this is  . But God is the most powerfull thing so He should be able to lift anything right?

[Drake_XIV]

I am completely lost about what this is  . But God is the most powerfull thing so He should be able to lift anything right?

That's the matter at hand.  He is also supposed to be able to make anything.  So what if he could make something he couldn't theoretically lift.

[Belthus]

This is more of a word game than a true paradox. Think of it this way. A hypothetically omnipotent God could (1) make a rock of any size and (2) lift a rock of any size. Those are the two actions - making and lifting. Yes to both.

The rest of the wording essentially asks whether God "can can't." It's nonsense. For any particular task, either he can or he can't. The answer to both parts was, yes, he can. "Can" and "can't" are mutually exclusive in any particular situation, so if God can, then can't is ruled out.

[Jenkar]

This is more of a word game than a true paradox. Think of it this way. A hypothetically omnipotent God could (1) make a rock of any size and (2) lift a rock of any size. Those are the two actions - making and lifting. Yes to both.

The rest of the wording essentially asks whether God "can can't." It's nonsense.

... what?
The problem in the paradox is that if he can one, he  can't the other.