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Re: A truly sadistic choice https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=29035.msg377636#msg377636
« Reply #24 on: August 09, 2011, 02:07:58 am »
Ok, thanks. This is a tough decision...
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Re: A truly sadistic choice https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=29035.msg382187#msg382187
« Reply #25 on: August 19, 2011, 06:04:37 pm »
If i had time to commit suicide I would probably pick A (depending on a lot of details i had to take up with this *** of a god entity). Ive lived long enough and experienced most of what I've wanted in life so death is not something that is a too high a price to pay. Don't confuse death with pain here as a lot of people do.

If the only info i have to go on is whats in the OP then I'd pick B.
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Re: A truly sadistic choice https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=29035.msg382261#msg382261
« Reply #26 on: August 19, 2011, 09:20:13 pm »
If you pick A, then kill yourself, the god will resurrect you and make you suffer for all eternity.
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Re: A truly sadistic choice https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=29035.msg382333#msg382333
« Reply #27 on: August 20, 2011, 12:00:22 am »
1: As my greatest nightmares all involve things happening to my family, and as there can be no suffering to anyone but me, I would choose A. I would have to keep telling myself that they are living better lives for it, that now they are happy, but atleast I would have the satisfaction of knowing I did the right thing. Although, I would make me feel terible to know they thought I was the cause of the suffering in the world.

2: I wouldn't care, I know there are whacked-out people in the world as it is, and why should one person take on all that for others?

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Re: A truly sadistic choice https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=29035.msg382389#msg382389
« Reply #28 on: August 20, 2011, 02:20:13 am »
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As my greatest nightmares all involve things happening to my family
That's not possible. Your subconsciousness can think of horrible, horrible things that are much, much worse than simply losing your family. Squicky things. Such as, I don't know, being eaten from the inside out by centipedes. Go look up high octane nightmare fuel on TV Tropes, and you'll know.
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Re: A truly sadistic choice https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=29035.msg382396#msg382396
« Reply #29 on: August 20, 2011, 03:07:07 am »
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As my greatest nightmares all involve things happening to my family
That's not possible. Your subconsciousness can think of horrible, horrible things that are much, much worse than simply losing your family. Squicky things. Such as, I don't know, being eaten from the inside out by centipedes. Go look up high octane nightmare fuel on TV Tropes, and you'll know.
I have, and all those fates are infinitely worse just by having it done to my family instead of me.
  I would like to emphasis real quick that I'm not saying I wouldn't care if it was done to me - you actaully struck one of my nightmare cords with the centipedes *shudders* - as I'm rather a wimp when it comes to pain, but any senario I can imagine becomes worse by me watching and it happening to one of my family.

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Re: A truly sadistic choice https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=29035.msg382473#msg382473
« Reply #30 on: August 20, 2011, 05:25:03 am »
Bull crap. The 'worst possible nightmare' that one can imagine is being in constant pain, with the fear of it becoming worse and worse. Two things trump all other nightmare forms: pain, and fear of the unknown. I know damn well that beats empathy too.
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Re: A truly sadistic choice https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=29035.msg382490#msg382490
« Reply #31 on: August 20, 2011, 06:34:08 am »
Bull crap. The 'worst possible nightmare' that one can imagine is being in constant pain, with the fear of it becoming worse and worse. Two things trump all other nightmare forms: pain, and fear of the unknown. I know damn well that beats empathy too.
Nightmares at the extreme:
Self Interest + Empathy > Self Interest >> Empathy

So the worst nightmare would be you being in constant pain, with the fear of it becoming worse and worse, and the delusion that the entity lied and those you care about are sharing the nightmare. Topped off by everyone, including you, knowing that you caused the nightmare.

Important Note: That would be the nightmare, in truth only you would be suffering but part of your suffering would be believing the entity lied.

The nature of this worst nightmare renders the entity in a position of absolutely no credibility despite its intentions.
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Re: A truly sadistic choice https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=29035.msg382492#msg382492
« Reply #32 on: August 20, 2011, 06:36:30 am »
Bull crap. The 'worst possible nightmare' that one can imagine is being in constant pain, with the fear of it becoming worse and worse. Two things trump all other nightmare forms: pain, and fear of the unknown. I know damn well that beats empathy too.
Nightmares at the extreme:
Self Interest + Empathy > Self Interest >> Empathy

Imagine the worst nightmare where only you are suffering. It can be made worse by having you and those you care about suffer in the same manner.
Very true. However, it seemed like he was taking the easy way out by having only those he cares about suffer.
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Re: A truly sadistic choice https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=29035.msg382648#msg382648
« Reply #33 on: August 20, 2011, 04:31:05 pm »
However, it seemed like he was taking the easy way out by having only those he cares about suffer.
Not true, I'm saying that since the Djiin (or whatever it is) can't hurt anyone accept for me (because he removed all suffering/sorrow/pain from the world, where my loved ones prosumably are) and as my worst nightmares involve my family, it can no longer inflict my worst nightmares, so I would choose option A, as it removes all posibilities of the nightmare coming true from ever happening.

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Re: A truly sadistic choice https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=29035.msg382807#msg382807
« Reply #34 on: August 20, 2011, 09:19:28 pm »
If you pick A, then kill yourself, the god will resurrect you and make you suffer for all eternity.
With that info it became easy, I wouldn't wish the fate of A on anyone else and even less so for myself.

I'd pick B.
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Re: A truly sadistic choice https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=29035.msg383216#msg383216
« Reply #35 on: August 21, 2011, 08:30:49 pm »
However, it seemed like he was taking the easy way out by having only those he cares about suffer.
Not true, I'm saying that since the Djiin (or whatever it is) can't hurt anyone accept for me (because he removed all suffering/sorrow/pain from the world, where my loved ones prosumably are) and as my worst nightmares involve my family, it can no longer inflict my worst nightmares, so I would choose option A, as it removes all posibilities of the nightmare coming true from ever happening.
Then you will be put under an illusion and forced to watch your family suffer these horrible nightmares, again and again and again, for all eternity, with absolutely no way to save them, while being told that it's all your fault. You will be mind controlled into thinking that this is actually happening, that this is all real, that the evil god actually can hurt your family. You see, your worst nightmare isn't having your family suffer. It is knowing that your family suffers. There is no loophole to exploit.
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