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Title: Super Smash Bros Ultimate
Post by: InsignificantWeeaboo on November 18, 2018, 06:23:37 am
Since the old Super Smash Bros topic hasn't been posted in for a while, I thought it would be a good idea to start a new thread.

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These are the characters I plan on maining once the game comes out. I also plan on picking up characters from the previous game, such as Wario and possibly Bowser.

I might spend some time on the Spirits mode, but I don't plan on making it most of my game time.

  • Bandana Waddle Dee
  • Geno
  • Phoenix Wright
  • Doomguy (Kind of a stretch)
  • Shantae (Also a bit of a stretch)
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros Ultimate
Post by: Linkcat on November 18, 2018, 07:34:07 am
I will for sure be maining Kirby with Lucina as a secondary, same as Smash 4. I won't know about any other characters until I play them.

The 5 DLC characters were chosen by Nintendo and confirmed by Sakurai. This leads me to believe that the DLC characters will only be big names mostly from upcoming games, and not something like Bandana Dee or Geno, even though Bandana Dee has been my most wanted newcomer for the past two Smash games. Shantae has been deconfirmed by her creator campaigning for her on Twitter after they decided on all of the characters. Phoenix Wright is possible. Doom Guy is a longshot.

My official prediction is:
Rex
Sora
FE: Three Houses rep
Zelda rep (probably Impa)
Another 3rd party not from Square (probably Tails, Banjo, or Travis Touchdown)
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros Ultimate
Post by: Higurashi on November 18, 2018, 03:12:20 pm
I've pre-ordered two games in my life. Super Mario Party and this. While this is guaranteed to be less of a disappointment, it's still mostly Smash 4 physics and sluggishness. I'll always like Melee more, but Ultimate will still give me years of entertainment. For your money's worth, nothing beats Smash.

I never bought Smash 4, so I'll be trying everyone thoroughly before I can decide on favorites. I suspect it'll be Mewtwo, Zelda/Shiek and the spacies. Dorf will never be Melee fun again, but maybe his sword will pull him out of the gutter. Will def play some with the Belmonts.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros Ultimate
Post by: MasterWalks on November 18, 2018, 08:01:53 pm
  • Bandana Waddle Dee
  • Geno
  • Phoenix Wright
  • Doomguy (Kind of a stretch)
  • Shantae (Also a bit of a stretch)

No Walugi?!?! Wtf insig i thought you were a man of culture.
Also, since Diablo 3 got ported to the switch, wouldnt mind seeing a Necromancer or DemonHunter as a playable character or at least support[/list]
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros Ultimate
Post by: InsignificantWeeaboo on November 18, 2018, 11:05:39 pm
The 5 DLC characters were chosen by Nintendo and confirmed by Sakurai. This leads me to believe that the DLC characters will only be big names mostly from upcoming games, and not something like Bandana Dee or Geno, even though Bandana Dee has been my most wanted newcomer for the past two Smash games. Shantae has been deconfirmed by her creator campaigning for her on Twitter after they decided on all of the characters. Phoenix Wright is possible. Doom Guy is a longshot.

My official prediction is:
Rex
Sora
FE: Three Houses rep
Zelda rep (probably Impa)
Another 3rd party not from Square (probably Tails, Banjo, or Travis Touchdown)

No Walugi?!?! Wtf insig i thought you were a man of culture.
Also, since Diablo 3 got ported to the switch, wouldnt mind seeing a Necromancer or DemonHunter as a playable character or at least support

Keep in mind that a regular Piranha Plant was chosen to be the first DLC fighter. It makes sense for Bandana Dee to get in if a Piranha Plant could; as for Geno, it's a big maybe. I have a feeling Shantae's creator might be campaigning to keep it a surprise/make her appearance uncertain, but that's probably unlikely. As for your predictions:

Rex - On one hand, it seems like there's no way for him to get in. On the other hand, Chrom is in the game but still has a Mii Fighter costume representing him.
Sora - Possible
FE: Three Houses rep - Also possible, judging by the fact we got Corrin as one of the last DLC fighters.
Zelda rep/Impa - Once again, possible.
Tails - We do need another Sonic rep, and Tails seems like the go to character.
Banjo - Maybe if Microsoft will let Nintendo use him/if the stars align properly.
Travis Touchdown - Also a possibility, and would be really hilarious to see.

As much as I would like to see Waluigi playable, he's been deconfirmed as an Assist Trophy. Any Diablo characters seem like a longshot.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros Ultimate
Post by: Mr Muffin on November 19, 2018, 03:25:01 am
Does anyone else think that the graphics make it hard to see the characters and what they are doing?
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros Ultimate
Post by: Linkcat on November 19, 2018, 05:16:18 am
Pirahna Plant was chosen by Sakurai. The DLC characters were chosen by Nintendo. Bandana Dee isn't a big enough name to take up a DLC slot. Also the mook argument against Bandana Dee was never valid so Pirahna Plant changes nothing.

Banjo has already been OK'd by Microsoft.

I am actually super hype for Spirits mode, definitely going to 100% it.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros Ultimate
Post by: Higurashi on November 26, 2018, 06:55:09 pm
Does anyone else think that the graphics make it hard to see the characters and what they are doing?
Yeah, that was another issue with Brawl compared to Melee and Smash 4 even more so. Ultimate seems to have even bigger special effects, so that won't help. It'll be frustrating albeit fine for party fun, but Melee will remain the competitive one.

And if we're getting another Sonic rep, it should by all rights be Knuckles. Way bigger fanbase, way cooler character.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros Ultimate
Post by: InsignificantWeeaboo on November 26, 2018, 06:57:07 pm
And if we're getting another Sonic rep, it should by all rights be Knuckles. Way bigger fanbase, way cooler character.

The problem is that he's already an Assist Trophy.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros Ultimate
Post by: Higurashi on November 26, 2018, 07:18:24 pm
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros Ultimate
Post by: MasterWalks on November 29, 2018, 09:54:45 pm
insigs perfect world


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Title: Re: Super Smash Bros Ultimate
Post by: InsignificantWeeaboo on December 07, 2018, 03:50:21 pm
SSBU is out, along with the 1st DLC character:

Title: Re: Super Smash Bros Ultimate
Post by: Linkcat on December 07, 2018, 04:22:07 pm
It's so fucking good.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros Ultimate
Post by: MasterWalks on December 13, 2018, 02:29:07 am
It's so fucking good.
2nd that. Been maining Samus, my old Melee main and i think shes been much improved. Spirit mode is really fun. Its nice to see a fleshed out game these days. (i havent touched online, i dont wanna be let down)
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros Ultimate
Post by: Mr Muffin on December 13, 2018, 02:35:24 am
I haven't played the game or seen any gameplay of Samus but I heard she was bad.

EDIT: But the game came out a few days ago so... Who knows, she could be great.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros Ultimate
Post by: InsignificantWeeaboo on December 13, 2018, 02:36:18 am
There are a couple of people who will make you play games with 3 stocks and 3 minutes. Also, you need Nintendo Online to play from what I hear.

I haven't played the game or seen any gameplay of Samus but I heard she was bad.
Not exactly. Maybe not the best character in the game, but she definitely isn't bad. (From what I've seen anyways)
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros Ultimate
Post by: MasterWalks on December 13, 2018, 02:38:51 am
I haven't played the game or seen any gameplay of Samus but I heard she was bad.

Well she aint Starfox or Little Mac but you should play with what you're used to/good with. I used to be good with Link and Ganondorf in Melee but i dislike the reworks in Ultimate so I am sticking to Samus.

(She is terrible in tournaments but i dont play tournaments and i was able to beat the best person i know with her.)
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros Ultimate
Post by: Linkcat on December 13, 2018, 06:28:18 am
Samus was definitely buffed from 4.

I'm running through World of Light on Hard without spirits or skills. So far I've cleared 75 spaces and
cleared the Temple of Light.

The best spirit I've seen up to now is the Iridiscent Glint Beetle from Pikmin 2. It perfectly captured the feeling of the mad chase when you try to kill it before it disappears.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros Ultimate
Post by: shockcannon on January 06, 2019, 12:11:13 pm
Peach and G&W main
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros Ultimate
Post by: MasterWalks on January 06, 2019, 08:07:46 pm
Moved from main-ing Link and Samus in Melee to main-ing Bayonetta and Mario in Ultimate. Did Mario get a buff compared to Melee? He seems much faster.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros Ultimate
Post by: InsignificantWeeaboo on January 26, 2019, 09:00:03 pm
Considering picking up ROB mainly because he seems fun to play. Problem is that I can't find any good guides on how to play him. If anyone knows how to play him at a decent level, please give me some tips.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros Ultimate
Post by: InsignificantWeeaboo on February 01, 2019, 11:53:16 pm
Finally beat WoL.

Absolutely loved playing as Master Hand. Too bad we can't do it more than once.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros Ultimate
Post by: Submachine on February 02, 2019, 04:20:08 pm
I am new to Smash Bros and am looking for a starter main. I like being far from my opponents, so I prefer ranged combat. I prefer damage over move speed, but I would not give up jumping height. I would also like a method to escape close combat situations. Which character would suit me best?

I am also inexperienced with Switch controls, so I would prefer a character with combos and controls that are not difficult to learn.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros Ultimate
Post by: ddevans96 on February 03, 2019, 01:08:15 am
STRETCH THOSE SHOULDERS
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros Ultimate
Post by: MasterWalks on February 03, 2019, 01:11:35 am
I am new to Smash Bros and am looking for a starter main. I like being far from my opponents, so I prefer ranged combat. I prefer damage over move speed, but I would not give up jumping height. I would also like a method to escape close combat situations. Which character would suit me best?

I am also inexperienced with Switch controls, so I would prefer a character with combos and controls that are not difficult to learn.

Samus. I LOVE samus. Majority of moves are ranged, super easy to get the hang of, and can turn into a ball to escape close combat. She's pretty much exactly what you are looking for
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros Ultimate
Post by: InsignificantWeeaboo on February 03, 2019, 03:46:37 am
I am new to Smash Bros and am looking for a starter main. I like being far from my opponents, so I prefer ranged combat. I prefer damage over move speed, but I would not give up jumping height. I would also like a method to escape close combat situations. Which character would suit me best?

I am also inexperienced with Switch controls, so I would prefer a character with combos and controls that are not difficult to learn.

Samus. I LOVE samus. Majority of moves are ranged, super easy to get the hang of, and can turn into a ball to escape close combat. She's pretty much exactly what you are looking for

Dark Samus is slightly better, since her roll (dodging to the left or right while on the ground) is 3 frames shorter than Samus's. It's Phazon Charge Shot is also at a slightly lower angle than Samus's, so it can hit smaller characters easier.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros Ultimate
Post by: dawn to dusk on February 03, 2019, 03:58:52 am
I am new to Smash Bros and am looking for a starter main. I like being far from my opponents, so I prefer ranged combat. I prefer damage over move speed, but I would not give up jumping height. I would also like a method to escape close combat situations. Which character would suit me best?

I am also inexperienced with Switch controls, so I would prefer a character with combos and controls that are not difficult to learn.
Lucina/Marth and Richter/Simon are often good picks for new players from what I've heard. Lucina (and Marth, but Lucina is slightly more consistent) has her down special, which is good for escaping when used well, but is fairly short range since she's a sword character with no projectiles. But her range with the sword is quite nice.
Richter (and Simon, but Richter is more consistent in the same way that differs Marth and Lucina) is slower, and has worse recovery, but has really nice ranged play with a ton of projectiles and a long range whip.
Both of these characters are much easier to pick up and play than a lot of the roster too, which is nice for someone new to the game
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros Ultimate
Post by: Mr Muffin on February 03, 2019, 05:36:59 am
Richter (and Simon, but Richter is more consistent in the same way that differs Marth and Lucina) is slower, and has worse recovery, but has really nice ranged play with a ton of projectiles and a long range whip.
Both of these characters are much easier to pick up and play than a lot of the roster too, which is nice for someone new to the game

Correct me if they changed something in the patch but the only difference that matters between Simon and Richter is their holy water. Simon's has flame properties and Richter's has aura properties. I don't know what aura properties do if they do anything.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros Ultimate
Post by: dawn to dusk on February 03, 2019, 05:46:17 am
Richter (and Simon, but Richter is more consistent in the same way that differs Marth and Lucina) is slower, and has worse recovery, but has really nice ranged play with a ton of projectiles and a long range whip.
Both of these characters are much easier to pick up and play than a lot of the roster too, which is nice for someone new to the game

Correct me if they changed something in the patch but the only difference between Simon and Richter is their holy water. Simon's has flame properties and Richter's has aura properties. I don't know what aura properties do if they do anything.
Oh my bad, I thought I heard somewhere that Simon had sweet spots at the tip of his whip, but a bit of research and I can't find mention of that. Carry on
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros Ultimate
Post by: Mr Muffin on February 03, 2019, 05:53:11 am
Both Simon and Richter have sweetspots at the tip of their whip.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros Ultimate
Post by: Linkcat on February 03, 2019, 12:11:49 pm
I am new to Smash Bros and am looking for a starter main. I like being far from my opponents, so I prefer ranged combat. I prefer damage over move speed, but I would not give up jumping height. I would also like a method to escape close combat situations. Which character would suit me best?

I am also inexperienced with Switch controls, so I would prefer a character with combos and controls that are not difficult to learn.

The two characters that best fit this description are Samus and Link. Link has much more spammable projectiles which make it easier to focus on fighting at range. He also kills earlier, but his escape options aren't as good as Samus's. For a full breakdown of the differences between Samus and Dark Samus, check out this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IDyA2U4lgDA (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IDyA2U4lgDA)

For anyone interested in watching tournaments, the first supermajor for Ultimate, Genesis 6, will be streaming it's top 8 for Melee at 14:30 PST and Top 8 for Ultimate at 18:00 PST.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros Ultimate
Post by: Higurashi on February 13, 2019, 06:13:40 pm
I am new to Smash Bros and am looking for a starter main. I like being far from my opponents, so I prefer ranged combat. I prefer damage over move speed, but I would not give up jumping height. I would also like a method to escape close combat situations. Which character would suit me best?

I am also inexperienced with Switch controls, so I would prefer a character with combos and controls that are not difficult to learn.
In Smash you'll find zoning characters and aggro characters. There's no character that can rely too much on "ranged combat", but there's many that use it in order to connect melee attacks without risking their own hide, i.e. hitting someone who is already flying away from a ranged attack, and for starting true combos (inescapable).

The only competitive mention so far has been Simon/Richter. For something more balanced out and even more competitive, see Palutena (probably the best performing zoner so far). For something fun and less competitive, see Zelda. For a more melee-focused zoner that is very viable, see Young Link. For the only character who relies on laying traps, see Snake. He's pretty strong and has very unique gameplay.

Other less viable options that still aren't too weak are R.O.B. (bleh) and Mewtwo (hella fun and floaty air combos). The easiest to pick up are Zelda and Mewtwo, in that order. Both are a good introduction to the zoning playstyle.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros Ultimate
Post by: Linkcat on March 08, 2019, 07:33:33 pm
The first Smash Ultimate Summit has started. It's a 16-man tournament with a combination of invitees, high placers in tournaments, and people voted in. It runs over three days and has a lot of fun side events too. At the time of this posting they're playing Random v Random.

https://www.twitch.tv/btssmash
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros Ultimate
Post by: InsignificantWeeaboo on April 17, 2019, 02:04:25 am

New gameplay on Joker has just been announced, along with the return of Stage Builder (Also more Mii Fighter Costumes, video editing, and some more things)

Might try Joker out for a bit, but I don't think I'll be maining him.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros Ultimate
Post by: InsignificantWeeaboo on June 16, 2019, 01:28:42 am
This is long overdue, but two new characters have been announced for DLC:


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