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What kind of league do you want this to be

Gym based with each gym representing a different type
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Gym-based with generations represented instead of types except for two of the gyms
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Elimination tournament
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round robin tournament
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Voting closed: April 04, 2016, 04:50:54 pm

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Re: pokemon etg pokemon league https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=61602.msg1228473#msg1228473
« Reply #24 on: March 23, 2016, 09:21:27 am »
I'd be willing to join, though I don't think having a gym system or some simulation based off the gameplay will work. We could introduce Elite 4 and Champions as ranks for top players, but setting up fixed gyms is too fussy.
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Re: pokemon etg pokemon league https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=61602.msg1228488#msg1228488
« Reply #25 on: March 23, 2016, 01:49:03 pm »
Also, I would like to participate as the Gen IV gym. (D/P/P)
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Glad we have same taste,  nevertheless.

On a serious note, there ought to be a better way of deciding this. In fact, we really need established rules, first. I wouldn't mind putting something together.

Thats partly why i set this thread up I alone don't have enough knowledge to make this feasible I'm glad to see there is still interest in this I'd be happy if you can come up with a workable system I'm game for putting it up to a poll to decide what approach we go for. Besides I wanted this to be something the community can work with and find some common ground and have fun.
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Re: pokemon etg pokemon league https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=61602.msg1228491#msg1228491
« Reply #26 on: March 23, 2016, 02:06:20 pm »
Root, meow, ji4 and gino were talking about some ideas earlier in chat, and I think they should be mentioned in here, as it proposes a decent way to change the current system of first come first serve, and hopefully set up a more lasting session. I don't know if root wants to type up a formal thing, or if I should just post the chatlog, so i'll just save it for now and wait for his lead or confirmation to post it.


I would also appreciate it if over the next few days we could write up, or adopt a formal rule list. Obviously, we can only do so much without the infrastructure of this league set up, but its still something to think about

I'm garnering suggestions atm this thread wasn't set up as the official thread for the next league but if that is what you'd prefer I'll just need to gather the last few ideas and can make this a little more official.
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Re: pokemon etg pokemon league https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=61602.msg1228526#msg1228526
« Reply #27 on: March 23, 2016, 10:41:13 pm »
Ah alright, I understand tree. Well there were a few ideas, the first and most important was the abandonment of the gym system. It doesn't work. weve tried it a half dozen times and its failed early on every team. We would need at least 20-30 people active to make it possible, and frankly we cant get that. Thus it was pitched that instead we run a tournament.


This tournament would likely be a round robin, and every player would get a primary type. This primary type was tied in with the balancing issues with some types. First, players would bid a number 0-12 on each type, in order of preference (IE: Dragon 9, ice 2, grass 5, fire 8) Everyone would get their highest placed bid, on their highest preferred type.


With the remaining amount, people would pick their pokemon. Uber tier pokemon were banned entirely, Over used (OU) cost 2 points, Under used (UU) cost 1 point, and everything below UU (RU, NU, etc etc) would cost 0. So assuming you won the dragon bid, you could take 1 over used pokemon, and 1 under used pokemon potentially, along with 4 RU or NU's

There was some debate on if it should be a 6 of your type team (my preference) a 5 of your type team (with one wild card) or a 4 of your type team, or even a 4 of your type with a theme (For example, flying and dragon together, but not Dragon and grass).


Obviously a lot of these things need to be voted on, and someone has to run it, but this is basically what was discussed. If I missed anything, let me know

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Re: pokemon etg pokemon league https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=61602.msg1228533#msg1228533
« Reply #28 on: March 24, 2016, 12:03:40 am »
i think the pseudo restriction ban ubers, 2 point for a ou and 1 for a uu and 4 of your type is enough
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Re: pokemon etg pokemon league https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=61602.msg1228654#msg1228654
« Reply #29 on: March 25, 2016, 09:49:28 pm »
i think the pseudo restriction ban ubers, 2 point for a ou and 1 for a uu and 4 of your type is enough

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Re: pokemon etg pokemon league https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=61602.msg1228656#msg1228656
« Reply #30 on: March 25, 2016, 09:55:46 pm »
If tree wants to host a vote here that would be sufficient I think to get a general rule set out of the way. Also, we need a host, RR offered at one point but that could no longer be valid

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Re: pokemon etg pokemon league https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=61602.msg1228665#msg1228665
« Reply #31 on: March 26, 2016, 12:32:16 am »
kdz basically outlined the rules, except I'm not a fan of round robin. It's anticlimactic, and players likely won't want so many games. What I'd prefer is for players to have 3-4 matches, then the bottom players are eliminated, then another round of ~3-4 matches decides a winner, all based on KRACH rating.

I can definitely still host this, and may very well have to, since the bidding and ratings are a bit complicated.

Of course I can still participate if ya'll decide on a different way of eliminating players and can manage the bidding.
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Re: pokemon etg pokemon league https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=61602.msg1228683#msg1228683
« Reply #32 on: March 26, 2016, 06:33:06 am »
I think you should play, you could PM me your locked in bid, and i could PM you mine, then players could send both of us their bids. Then, once the lists are said and done, you host it?


As for eliminations, perhaps just a static 1/3 to 1/2 the starting players? (1/2 if at or below 8, 1/3 if over?)

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Re: pokemon etg pokemon league https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=61602.msg1228752#msg1228752
« Reply #33 on: March 27, 2016, 12:51:25 am »
I'll draft a full set of rules for this. I'll be participating, but all of my bids will be 0 to ensure no foul play. I'll also make bids public afterwards and randomize pairings in the chat itself.
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Re: pokemon etg pokemon league https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=61602.msg1228870#msg1228870
« Reply #34 on: March 28, 2016, 04:47:36 pm »
I'll draft a full set of rules for this. I'll be participating, but all of my bids will be 0 to ensure no foul play. I'll also make bids public afterwards and randomize pairings in the chat itself.

Yeah if this is going ahead I would kindly like to ask Root to host as I have not got the necessary activity to host this event and I've never been that good with the kind of rules it seems to be tending towards.
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