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What kind of league do you want this to be

Gym based with each gym representing a different type
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Gym-based with generations represented instead of types except for two of the gyms
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Elimination tournament
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round robin tournament
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Voting closed: April 04, 2016, 04:50:54 pm

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Re: pokemon etg pokemon league https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=61602.msg1228423#msg1228423
« Reply #12 on: March 22, 2016, 11:04:42 pm »
u can't modify the typing of x pokemon on 3ds (is possible to do it on showdown, but u need your own server)

You can alter attributes on showdown? Might have to try that sometime if it's feasible.

yep, but as i said, u need your own server

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Re: pokemon etg pokemon league https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=61602.msg1228424#msg1228424
« Reply #13 on: March 22, 2016, 11:48:15 pm »
i'd be in
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Re: pokemon etg pokemon league https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=61602.msg1228425#msg1228425
« Reply #14 on: March 23, 2016, 12:01:42 am »
I'd be in but im relatively trash

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Re: pokemon etg pokemon league https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=61602.msg1228427#msg1228427
« Reply #15 on: March 23, 2016, 12:03:02 am »
Definitely interested! ;D
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Re: pokemon etg pokemon league https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=61602.msg1228436#msg1228436
« Reply #16 on: March 23, 2016, 02:23:54 am »
Ok, bad dragon gym built.

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Re: pokemon etg pokemon league https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=61602.msg1228437#msg1228437
« Reply #17 on: March 23, 2016, 02:40:22 am »
Grass and Ice gyms prepped, depending on what y'all want me to use.

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Re: pokemon etg pokemon league https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=61602.msg1228441#msg1228441
« Reply #18 on: March 23, 2016, 03:49:37 am »
I don't think gyms would work very well. For one, they reward activity moreso than skill. Furthermore, it's in a gym leader's best interest to avoid matches (except against gym leaders they have not yet defeated) if they're trying to win the event. Lastly, gyms require a ton of matches and people would lose interest over time.

What we need is a tournament. We can still keep the concept of restricting players to gym-style teams, of course.
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Re: pokemon etg pokemon league https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=61602.msg1228442#msg1228442
« Reply #19 on: March 23, 2016, 04:04:22 am »
I don't think gyms would work very well. For one, they reward activity moreso than skill. Furthermore, it's in a gym leader's best interest to avoid matches (except against gym leaders they have not yet defeated) if they're trying to win the event. Lastly, gyms require a ton of matches and people would lose interest over time.

What we need is a tournament. We can still keep the concept of restricting players to gym-style teams, of course.


In the past we have tried the "gym system" and it frankly doesn't work. Personally, I would love if the gym system preformed how it was intended, but we simply don't have the activity, nor the people to really keep gyms functional. I can think of a few ways gyms could work, /if/ we had the people, but they aren't really practical.


Thus, I support a tournament set up as well


Also, I would like to participate as the Gen IV gym. (D/P/P)

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Re: pokemon etg pokemon league https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=61602.msg1228443#msg1228443
« Reply #20 on: March 23, 2016, 04:08:51 am »
I don't think gyms would work very well. For one, they reward activity moreso than skill. Furthermore, it's in a gym leader's best interest to avoid matches (except against gym leaders they have not yet defeated) if they're trying to win the event. Lastly, gyms require a ton of matches and people would lose interest over time.

What we need is a tournament. We can still keep the concept of restricting players to gym-style teams, of course.


In the past we have tried the "gym system" and it frankly doesn't work. Personally, I would love if the gym system preformed how it was intended, but we simply don't have the activity, nor the people to really keep gyms functional. I can think of a few ways gyms could work, /if/ we had the people, but they aren't really practical.


Thus, I support a tournament set up as well


Also, I would like to participate as the Gen IV gym. (D/P/P)

If the battle system supports battles against AI, gyms could be manned by AI instead? Simply give out the list of pokemon the Gym is supposed to use? That way you can still get some sort of reward from them and won't have to always wait around for an opponent?
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Re: pokemon etg pokemon league https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=61602.msg1228445#msg1228445
« Reply #21 on: March 23, 2016, 04:12:50 am »
Also, I would like to participate as the Gen IV gym. (D/P/P)
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On a serious note, there ought to be a better way of deciding this. In fact, we really need established rules, first. I wouldn't mind putting something together.
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Re: pokemon etg pokemon league https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=61602.msg1228446#msg1228446
« Reply #22 on: March 23, 2016, 04:43:24 am »
I don't think gyms would work very well. For one, they reward activity moreso than skill. Furthermore, it's in a gym leader's best interest to avoid matches (except against gym leaders they have not yet defeated) if they're trying to win the event. Lastly, gyms require a ton of matches and people would lose interest over time.

What we need is a tournament. We can still keep the concept of restricting players to gym-style teams, of course.

thisssss

about the AI: pokemon isn't a game that can be played by AI lol, pokemon has too many combinations, gamefreak never spent (and will never spend) much time programming the AI, since it should be really similar to a chess simulator than a game for kids.

the AI of 3ds/any console works like this:

gen1,2,3: pick a move that is neutral/supereffective
gen 4,5,6: like 1.2,3 and SOMETIMES the AI can switch if he can't hit your pokemon with any move

on showdown there are a lot of bots with some comands, but the ai is really similar to the 3ds

about the tournament: i played many tournaments in my "carrier", a format that can fit for the forum is called "smogon premier league" or "elements premier league"
is really inspired to the soccer season (football for someone): X players fights against each other every week, with a calendar: who gets more points at the end of the weeks, wins.

with this format even if u are bad at pokemon u can have fun playing all the tournament, instead of doing only one match.

if u decide to keep the gym system: i wanna be a bw gym/ water or ground gym.





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Re: pokemon etg pokemon league https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=61602.msg1228470#msg1228470
« Reply #23 on: March 23, 2016, 08:51:54 am »
Root, meow, ji4 and gino were talking about some ideas earlier in chat, and I think they should be mentioned in here, as it proposes a decent way to change the current system of first come first serve, and hopefully set up a more lasting session. I don't know if root wants to type up a formal thing, or if I should just post the chatlog, so i'll just save it for now and wait for his lead or confirmation to post it.


I would also appreciate it if over the next few days we could write up, or adopt a formal rule list. Obviously, we can only do so much without the infrastructure of this league set up, but its still something to think about

 

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