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Re: JCJ's Crazy RandomLocke https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=61894.msg1232837#msg1232837
« Reply #36 on: May 13, 2016, 07:16:35 am »
Well I can't train them freely, just catch up to the team level freely, so that shouldn't speed up overleveling. Once the new pokemon is at team level it can die in the wild (hence wild Sharpedo killed Camerupt)
A bit late to contribute to this conversation, I just wanted to mention that I have lost many strong pokémon during training every time when I was doing a Nuzlocke. I don't say that it's bad to remove that threat from Nuzlocke, but it definitely removes a large chunk of difficulty.
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Re: JCJ's Crazy RandomLocke https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=61894.msg1232845#msg1232845
« Reply #37 on: May 13, 2016, 09:54:12 am »
Well I can't train them freely, just catch up to the team level freely, so that shouldn't speed up overleveling. Once the new pokemon is at team level it can die in the wild (hence wild Sharpedo killed Camerupt)
A bit late to contribute to this conversation, I just wanted to mention that I have lost many strong pokémon during training every time when I was doing a Nuzlocke. I don't say that it's bad to remove that threat from Nuzlocke, but it definitely removes a large chunk of difficulty.

Possibly, it's just having to concentrate that much while training just massively increases the time it takes. I wouldn't say it is -difficult- it's more that it's just annoying imo.
But fair enough. It might be this, or the OP moves, that is making this easier than expected.
TBH I calibrated the rules after I heard Solaris struggle repeatedly wiping on randomlockes, so maybe it's just that he sucks :P
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Re: JCJ's Crazy RandomLocke https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=61894.msg1232848#msg1232848
« Reply #38 on: May 13, 2016, 11:14:28 am »
Overall, the difficulty hugely depends on... yeah, RNG. ^^ Maybe every other of his Poké had Truant. xD Or Slow Start, when he played Gen4.
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Re: JCJ's Crazy RandomLocke https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=61894.msg1232849#msg1232849
« Reply #39 on: May 13, 2016, 11:19:16 am »
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Re: JCJ's Crazy RandomLocke https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=61894.msg1232853#msg1232853
« Reply #40 on: May 13, 2016, 12:29:18 pm »
Victory Road

Crokanaw was Vic road's contribution.



Sup Wally!



Oh, someone's beet taking their vitamins. I have one HM slave with me so this is 5 v 5 with a slim level advantage. Switched to Lanturn. Surf OHKO.



Surf OHKO



Rock Slide 2HKO



Thunder Punch OHKO

Then Ditto. Dittto Outrage OHKO by Salamance.



Went at a legendary at mid-health and paralyzed. Bugger.



DOUBLE BATTLES SUCK. Especially when faced with a charizard with Overheat. DAMN.
Things are looking less than ideal. 3 living pokemon, and about 85% through victory road.
I know I have great replacements for both in the box, but it's already looking like a level slog before the elite 4, and I can hardly afford another loss.



Golem. The very last pokemon before the league. Slacking, Salamance and Cradily left alive, all at low-ish HP. The only Move that's normal effectiveness was Outrage.
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I limped into the Pokemon League a broken man. It will take some time for me to recover enough to take on the league. This is how my team will be constructed. Unfortunately I am going to have to dump Cradily. He hasn't learned a single grass move, and will only learn a move at level 56, which i might not train to.



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Re: JCJ's Crazy RandomLocke https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=61894.msg1232874#msg1232874
« Reply #41 on: May 13, 2016, 07:56:41 pm »
Can we see the moveset of the pokémon who learned Hi-Jump Kick? Because if it's Machamp, then it might be a good idea to have replacement moves and only use Hi-Jump Kick as a last resort (the drawback can be heavy if it happens early in the league).
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Re: JCJ's Crazy RandomLocke https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=61894.msg1232875#msg1232875
« Reply #42 on: May 13, 2016, 08:03:20 pm »
Can we see the moveset of the pokémon who learned Hi-Jump Kick? Because if it's Machamp, then it might be a good idea to have replacement moves and only use Hi-Jump Kick as a last resort (the drawback can be heavy if it happens early in the league).

Yeah, I'm not using it much:

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Re: JCJ's Crazy RandomLocke https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=61894.msg1232952#msg1232952
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The Team, The Challenge, and The Backup

So. The training is over.
The highest level pokemon i shall face is level 58. Being a Randomlocke, it will likely be easier than the real pokemon. Because I want a challenge, a REAL challenge, I have leveled my team to 53, 5 levels below the Champion's max.
This post contains my team, their move-sets, and their held items. At the end of the post, I'll show the backup team in my box, in case this one wipes.

Machamp - Quick Claw



Ghost / Fighting, great coverage. High Jump Kick is there if I feel like panicking. Quick Claw to occasionally make up for poor speed.
Shadow Punch and High Jump Kick were TMs

Latias - Soul Dew



Not the best move coverage, but all decent moves and the best at my disposal. Shame it learned no Psychic big hitter. It was caught holding Soul Dew, which boosts Latias's Def and Sp. Def. Awesome with Heal move as a tank. Going into E4 with Fire Punch TM which it can learn, in case I run out of PP restorers.
Synthesis was a TM.

Raikou - Magnet



Ohhhh I love this. Dark is special, and makes Bolt-Beam coverage even better. Add Calm Mind and could be an excellent special sweeper.
Ice Beam and Bite were TMs.

Slacking - Silk Scarf



My fatty. Most likely to sweep the champion after 6 Double Teams. Water covers Normal's weaknesses.
Octazooka was a TM.

Whiscash - Soft Sand



Just a solid, hard to kill mixed attacker.
Heat Wave was a TM.

Scizor - Silverpowder



Similar to Whiscash, though only Attack, not mixed.
Silver Wing was a TM.

The Backup Sqad



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Re: JCJ's Crazy RandomLocke https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=61894.msg1232953#msg1232953
« Reply #44 on: May 14, 2016, 10:52:58 pm »


Elite 4 #1: Sidney



LOL. Well. Switching time. Latios/Latias seems like a fitting start to this marathon.

I took a not-very-effective Psybeam with ease and responded with a OHKO Dragon Claw. Solid start.



Easy. Took a Megahorn which hardly touched me, Drill Peck OHKO.



Another worthy opponent! Surf almost killed it, the Ancient Power that followed was a crit, but only did 25% damage. Surf x2 finished things off, after a Full restore. Shame to use 3 Surf PP on it though.



Thunderbolt went first, and OHKO'd.



Decided to go back to Whiscash, as if it took damage it would mean I would only have to use one Hyper Potion.



She went first with Toxic, and Earthquake didn't quite do the job. Sitrus Berry made sure that Sydney wouldn't use another Full Restore, so I stayed in and finished things off with Surf.



Sydney was always just going to be a warm-up with inferior levels. Here's what the team looked like after the fight, before healing up ready for E4-2.
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« Reply #45 on: May 14, 2016, 11:10:01 pm »


Elite 4 #2: Phoebe



Poor little thing. Shadow Punch.



Double Kick. Not risking High Jump Kick. I took an Extremespeed for about 25% HP, but Double Kick JUST got the OHKO. Or does that count as a 2HKO?



Same thing, but without the Extremespeed. Again, almost exact damage.



Rofl. Didn't get the OHKO this time, and Miltank used smokescreen. Stuck in, and landed the hit.



That's more like it. Decided to set up Raiku a couple of times with Calm Mind, during which Zapdos used charge, and then Thunder, doing about 20% damage (which is not bad considering it was not very effective, and was after 2xSp.Def. Ice Beam killed it.
Oh, I misscounted, I thought I was setting up for Phoebe's final pokemon, but there wasn't one. Should have just used Ice Beam from the start.



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Re: JCJ's Crazy RandomLocke https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=61894.msg1233031#msg1233031
« Reply #46 on: May 15, 2016, 11:52:47 pm »


Elite 4 #3: Glacea



SERIOUSLY? 2 of the E4 starting with Shedinja WITHOUT Wonder Guard?



It's possible I made a mistake. Slacking's only poor stat is Special Defense, and Alakazam would likely be faster. Still, I back Body Slam for an OHKO.
My gamble paid off, Slacking was faster, and got the OHKO, but Alakazam's Effect Spore Paralyzed Slacking.



Should be easy enough with Steel Wing.



He went first, but missed with Hypnosis. I expect a Full Restore now. It came, but was inconsequential.



This is why we have Ice Beam.



Steel for the Rock tree. 2 hit KO.
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Elite 4 #4: Drake



Decided to switch to Whiscash, as I didn't want a long battle of attrition (Marowak has a decent defense)
Marowak's Magnitude 7 did minor damage, but Surf OHKO'd.



Switched back to my many-armed starter. Miltank used it's 2 attacks (went first, and survived first hit) to use smokescreen, which didn't make me miss, and Memento, which is easily switched out.



Drill Peck went first, but didn't kill the spinning foe, and Hitmontop's Karate Chop had a crit. I decided to switch to a safer match-up.



Latias switched into Mean Look, and finished the break dancer with Dragon Claw.



I decided to make use of Latias's Eruption, which OHKO'd.



Nothing like a 4x Super Effective to overcome a 2 level disadvantage. Ice Beeeam.

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