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Re: Zanzarino (Lead Developer) speaks about new features - updated 2010-12-09 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=17265.msg223159#msg223159
« Reply #96 on: December 12, 2010, 08:26:49 pm »
[21:44:36] zanzarino: The T500 deck has to follow the oracle's directions
[21:44:50] zanzarino: Meaning it has to contain 5 copies of the card given by the oracle

I'm guessing those go together, and it will always have to do with the card you spin.
Given - as in given in the instructions.

Not given as the card shown from the spin.
Like a pet or the FG or the cash given, it does not have anything to do with the card shown.
That's just an assumption, Kael. What Zanz says most probably refers to the card the oracle gives you via spin. But until we get confirmation from Zanz, it's all just speculation on how he meant that sentence.
Q: If I get Green Nymph from Oracle, do I have to have 5 Green Nymphs to enter it?
A: The oracle will give directions on the rules, it might have nothing to do with the card you spin.

Well when we go back up the quotes I had said "might" have nothing to do with the spin and Zanz earlier had used given when refering to other things the oracle does other than the card shown. And if for some reason it is based on the card shown and its rare and you can't build the deck, I guess its just too bad you won't be able to sumbit that day.
What you said before, and what you said that I quoted said two different things. Your answer used might while the other part you said was you giving something definitive, I was just correcting :P
Seriously? is there any more correctness in one statement than the other when neither is directly clarative and Zanz hasn't even put the architecture into place in a pre-cursory stage?
"it does not have anything to do with the card shown."

^ that part. That's rather definitive.
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Re: Zanzarino (Lead Developer) speaks about new features - updated 2010-12-09 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=17265.msg223166#msg223166
« Reply #97 on: December 12, 2010, 08:40:34 pm »
Seriously? is there any more correctness in one statement than the other when neither is directly clarative and Zanz hasn't even put the architecture into place in a pre-cursory stage?
"it does not have anything to do with the card shown."

^ that part. That's rather definitive.
Its only definitive if you take half the sentence. If you take the full sentence instead of half quoting me you would show that I was refering to the pet, FG, and cash given by the oracle as not having anything to do with the card shown.

Now lets call it quits with this discussion and both agree that its not yet defined.

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Re: Zanzarino (Lead Developer) speaks about new features - updated 2010-12-09 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=17265.msg223218#msg223218
« Reply #98 on: December 12, 2010, 10:05:18 pm »
Darkness can always steal it.. :)
That may not be the case.

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Re: Zanzarino (Lead Developer) speaks about new features - updated 2010-12-09 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=17265.msg223223#msg223223
« Reply #99 on: December 12, 2010, 10:12:27 pm »
Even if Light has many immaterial permanents, making Sanctuary immaterial would be a big mistake. Uncounterable things are bad (see the Silence thread).

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Re: Zanzarino (Lead Developer) speaks about new features - updated 2010-12-09 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=17265.msg223232#msg223232
« Reply #100 on: December 12, 2010, 10:29:51 pm »
Even if Light has many immaterial permanents, making Sanctuary immaterial would be a big mistake. Uncounterable things are bad (see the Silence thread).
Zanz said sanctuary could be destroyed.  steal > sanctuary for pest decks.

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Re: Zanzarino (Lead Developer) speaks about new features - updated 2010-12-09 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=17265.msg223290#msg223290
« Reply #101 on: December 13, 2010, 12:21:13 am »
If Sanctuary protects your hand as well, could the old Dune Scorpion come back?  That would be a needed buff, and there is now a direct counter to it.
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Re: Zanzarino (Lead Developer) speaks about new features - updated 2010-12-09 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=17265.msg223369#msg223369
« Reply #102 on: December 13, 2010, 01:39:08 am »
i give up on fighting against sanctuary, BUT i want either:
a buff for pests
a new darkness card

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Re: Zanzarino (Lead Developer) speaks about new features - updated 2010-12-09 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=17265.msg223399#msg223399
« Reply #103 on: December 13, 2010, 02:36:25 am »
Quanta denial in general needed a nerf. And you have to have quanta to get out the first pest right? Use that quanta for a steal :)
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Re: Zanzarino (Lead Developer) speaks about new features - updated 2010-12-09 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=17265.msg223444#msg223444
« Reply #104 on: December 13, 2010, 03:18:00 am »
If Sanctuary protects your hand as well, could the old Dune Scorpion come back?  That would be a needed buff, and there is now a direct counter to it.
Id actually like the current dune scorpion to stay, and then a new card that was like the old dune scorpion come
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Re: Zanzarino (Lead Developer) speaks about new features - updated 2010-12-09 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=17265.msg223563#msg223563
« Reply #105 on: December 13, 2010, 07:31:36 am »

Suggestion on Implementation of T500 Submitable decks.

1. When visiting the Oracle it chooses 10 cards divided between up to 5 types of which its adds to a deck tool.
2. Those cards cannot be removed from the deck and do not come from your collection.
3. Those cards may be any level, or rarity.
4. you have to build the rest you want to submit a deck.
5. The instructions are saved to the account so that they can be reaccessed at anytime to submit the deck until the oracle is spun again.

Ie. Today I spin the Oracle and get Entropy Nymph. Graboid Pet, Miracle FG, 300 Electrum and deck instructions 3x Entropy Nymph, 3x Flying Weapon, and 4x Chaos Power.

In Manage deck I select T500 deck button and a deck window is open with those 10 cards already added in the first column and unmoveable. I then add anot 20 cards to complete the deck and save to the deck archive.

When I open the T500 deck button again it tells me I have already submitted the deck and tells me my score is +10 because it has beaten 10 users. and earnt me 50 electrum. I confirm the electrum.

Tomorrow I spin the Oracle and get Quantum pillar. no pet, Ferox FG, 15 electrum and deck instructions, 8x Quantam Pillar, 2x Arctic Squid.

In Manage deck I select the T500 deck button and it tells me I already have a deck submitted and my score is -50 because it is now older and losing but has earnt me another 10 electrum from wins. It asks me if I would like to terminate this deck or close.
I choose terminate and it now shows me the new deck with todays 10 cards ready to build a deck.



Sound suitable or has issues?

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Re: Zanzarino (Lead Developer) speaks about new features - updated 2010-12-09 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=17265.msg223566#msg223566
« Reply #106 on: December 13, 2010, 07:48:35 am »
Suggestion on Implementation of T500 Submitable decks.

1. When visiting the Oracle it chooses 10 cards divided between up to 5 types of which its adds to a deck tool.
2. Those cards cannot be removed from the deck and do not come from your collection.
3. Those cards may be any level, or rarity.
4. you have to build the rest you want to submit a deck.
5. The instructions are saved to the account so that they can be reaccessed at anytime to submit the deck until the oracle is spun again.

Ie. Today I spin the Oracle and get Entropy Nymph. Graboid Pet, Miracle FG, 300 Electrum and deck instructions 3x Entropy Nymph, 3x Flying Weapon, and 4x Chaos Power.

In Manage deck I select T500 deck button and a deck window is open with those 10 cards already added in the first column and unmoveable. I then add anot 20 cards to complete the deck and save to the deck archive.

When I open the T500 deck button again it tells me I have already submitted the deck and tells me my score is +10 because it has beaten 10 users. and earnt me 50 electrum. I confirm the electrum.

Tomorrow I spin the Oracle and get Quantum pillar. no pet, Ferox FG, 15 electrum and deck instructions, 8x Quantam Pillar, 2x Arctic Squid.

In Manage deck I select the T500 deck button and it tells me I already have a deck submitted and my score is -50 because it is now older and losing but has earnt me another 10 electrum from wins. It asks me if I would like to terminate this deck or close.
I choose terminate and it now shows me the new deck with todays 10 cards ready to build a deck.



Sound suitable or has issues?
Sound like a Kael Card... :P

Joking aside, while I don't know how easy/hard it would be to code, it sounds good to me.

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Re: Zanzarino (Lead Developer) speaks about new features - updated 2010-12-09 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=17265.msg223601#msg223601
« Reply #107 on: December 13, 2010, 10:11:23 am »
Suggestion on Implementation of T500 Submitable decks.

1. When visiting the Oracle it chooses 10 cards divided between up to 5 types of which its adds to a deck tool.
2. Those cards cannot be removed from the deck and do not come from your collection.
3. Those cards may be any level, or rarity.
4. you have to build the rest you want to submit a deck.
5. The instructions are saved to the account so that they can be reaccessed at anytime to submit the deck until the oracle is spun again.

Ie. Today I spin the Oracle and get Entropy Nymph. Graboid Pet, Miracle FG, 300 Electrum and deck instructions 3x Entropy Nymph, 3x Flying Weapon, and 4x Chaos Power.

In Manage deck I select T500 deck button and a deck window is open with those 10 cards already added in the first column and unmoveable. I then add anot 20 cards to complete the deck and save to the deck archive.

When I open the T500 deck button again it tells me I have already submitted the deck and tells me my score is +10 because it has beaten 10 users. and earnt me 50 electrum. I confirm the electrum.

Tomorrow I spin the Oracle and get Quantum pillar. no pet, Ferox FG, 15 electrum and deck instructions, 8x Quantam Pillar, 2x Arctic Squid.

In Manage deck I select the T500 deck button and it tells me I already have a deck submitted and my score is -50 because it is now older and losing but has earnt me another 10 electrum from wins. It asks me if I would like to terminate this deck or close.
I choose terminate and it now shows me the new deck with todays 10 cards ready to build a deck.



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Loaning the "must include" cards to the player is a good idea, though it would probably be better if decks automatically terminated every time the required cards changes. As such, having the required cards change every 2-3 days would be more reasonable.
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