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Re: Elements 1.4 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=50550.msg1202746#msg1202746
« Reply #696 on: August 30, 2015, 12:11:50 am »
See OEtG and Cyngia. We're already doing it. There is/has been controversy
i just checked it out.
it's terrible. why not simply make it like actual elements, but with added content?

Did you really check out oEtG? Because what you described is literally what oEtG is. Cygnus is currently going to get new cards this weekend IIRC, it's a project in the CIA, although I'm sure you know that if you found the thread that contained the Cygnia link.
i didnt read all that. i just googled "OEtG elements the game" and clicked the first thing i saw that made sense. and if it's still in production, i can understand the current quality

What's so bad about its quality? It plays exactly the same as EtG does, and it has much more options (although admittedly the loss of the whole Arena is kinda sad, but considering that you have all the cards, it wouldn't make sense to keep gaining cards).

If you're talking about looks, well you can't expect it to look exactly like EtG. Only art that wasn't copyrighted (like made by Zanz and friends and we couldn't get their approval for art usage) was used, so that's why most of it isn't amazingly wonderful in terms of art. But art shouldn't matter, they don't affect the game.
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Re: Elements 1.4 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=50550.msg1202748#msg1202748
« Reply #697 on: August 30, 2015, 12:51:47 am »
See OEtG and Cyngia. We're already doing it. There is/has been controversy
i just checked it out.
it's terrible. why not simply make it like actual elements, but with added content?

Did you really check out oEtG? Because what you described is literally what oEtG is. Cygnus is currently going to get new cards this weekend IIRC, it's a project in the CIA, although I'm sure you know that if you found the thread that contained the Cygnia link.
i didnt read all that. i just googled "OEtG elements the game" and clicked the first thing i saw that made sense. and if it's still in production, i can understand the current quality

What's so bad about its quality? It plays exactly the same as EtG does, and it has much more options (although admittedly the loss of the whole Arena is kinda sad, but considering that you have all the cards, it wouldn't make sense to keep gaining cards).

If you're talking about looks, well you can't expect it to look exactly like EtG. Only art that wasn't copyrighted (like made by Zanz and friends and we couldn't get their approval for art usage) was used, so that's why most of it isn't amazingly wonderful in terms of art. But art shouldn't matter, they don't affect the game.
i thought the art shouldnt be an issue as long as no one is making money off of using it. but then, i could be wrong
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Re: Elements 1.4 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=50550.msg1202801#msg1202801
« Reply #698 on: August 30, 2015, 03:54:05 pm »
You're wrong, there's much debate over oetg's moral correctness _without_ making use of any of the original assets belonging to Zanz
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Re: Elements 1.4 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=50550.msg1202805#msg1202805
« Reply #699 on: August 30, 2015, 04:40:16 pm »
moral correctness?
pfffft. who cares about such an ancient concept?
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Re: Elements 1.4 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=50550.msg1202806#msg1202806
« Reply #700 on: August 30, 2015, 04:51:50 pm »
People who appreciate what zanz did for us when creating this game.
Especially because oetg started as an almost exact copy of all mechanics and cards.
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Re: Elements 1.4 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=50550.msg1202816#msg1202816
« Reply #701 on: August 30, 2015, 06:16:52 pm »
People who appreciate what zanz did for us when creating this game.
Especially because oetg started as an almost exact copy of all mechanics and cards.

OEtG leaves a lot to be desired in the smoothness of gameplay, but its still amazing. Reminded me of the old CCG's (I can't remember the name of it for the life of me). And I agree, Zanz did a LOT for us, creating this game and giving us a good two years of updates.
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Re: Elements 1.4 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=50550.msg1202835#msg1202835
« Reply #702 on: August 30, 2015, 07:42:15 pm »
moral correctness?
pfffft. who cares about such an ancient concept?
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Re: Elements 1.4 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=50550.msg1202906#msg1202906
« Reply #703 on: August 31, 2015, 04:51:32 am »
i didnt read all that. i just googled "OEtG elements the game" and clicked the first thing i saw that made sense. and if it's still in production, i can understand the current quality

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Cygnia: http://etg.dek.im/cia

And yes, still very much a work in progress, but all the mechanics are there
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Re: Elements 1.4 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=50550.msg1202924#msg1202924
« Reply #704 on: August 31, 2015, 07:13:58 am »
Why should zanz come back when people think they can do it theirself?
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Re: Elements 1.4 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=50550.msg1202936#msg1202936
« Reply #705 on: August 31, 2015, 08:43:02 am »
Why should zanz come back when people think they can do it theirself?

It's the other way around. The need for creating alternate versions arose from Zanz not being around to advance the game.
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Re: Elements 1.4 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=50550.msg1202938#msg1202938
« Reply #706 on: August 31, 2015, 08:49:17 am »
The thread of OpenEtG was made on december 07, 2013.
Zanz' latest post was on december 16, 2013.
Zanz' latest post before the thread of OpenEtG has been made, was on august 26, 2013.
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Re: Elements 1.4 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=50550.msg1202940#msg1202940
« Reply #707 on: August 31, 2015, 08:55:17 am »
Why should zanz come back when people think they can do it theirself?

I think the creators of OEtG made it very clear that they would at any point abandon OEtG if Zanzarino asked them to do so, and that they very much want him to return to developing the official version.
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