Elements 1.4

[Pella]

Actually, Naesala understood what I meant.  It was BeefSupreme who completely misinterpreted what Naesala wrote, at which point he wrote:

Elements 2 =/= Elements update
-snip-
I am sorry but I just cannot stress enough how stupid I think Elements 2 is.

Therefore, as I stated above, no one suggested having two separate games.  One person completely misinterpreted the original idea and decided that the original idea was about having two separate games.  He was wrong, just as I was wrong for presenting the original idea in the first place.

Obviously, you are correct.  We are here to talk about stuff.  I, like you, would prefer that we talk about stuff that is relevant to the Elements Community.  That is why I begged the Community to stop discussing my horribly stupid idea.

[ColorlessGreen]

plus if we make it elements 2.0 we can re-release it on kong and get more badges and new players

Just about everyone is discussing the quoted suggestion to re-release the game on kong, which I made regular-sized-text instead of tiny to avoid any of the further confusion.


I had interpreted this idea to mean that everything would point at the same servers, and just get re-released on kong in order to get more of the visibility from being "new".

Does anyone know if kong has any mechanism to handle major updates other than issuing a "new" game? What would be ideal is to get the additional visibility out of kong without having to say it's a new game, since the history is important and there are badges that already exist for the old one. I don't see how it could be re-released without either removing the old version or splitting (which I don't think anyone actually wants to do), as I doubt kong is willing to have two separate identical games. I wouldn't be surprised if there was some way to get visibility out of kong from a major update, though. I'm pretty sure I've seen other MMOs get "new update" treatment at major patch releases even without resubmitting the game as a new game.

[dragtom]

on another note:
(and this is important for zanz to see)

you can get on the front page of kong with a major update.

I don't know exactly who to contact for that,
but I guess qazzaq123 (wolfunit) knows.

edit:
and apparantly i completely missed colorlessgreen's post.

[Chapuz]

Kong only puts again an old gane with an update if the game "pays" a lot to kong via kong points (or however they are called) when people purchase in-game stuff. As the game has no purchaseable stuff with kong points, EtG won't be again in the front page other than in the best CCGs part.

[Higurashi]

Removed rude comments, personal attacks and font abuse (poor font). Now look at the thread. It looks so civil doesn't it? Let's keep it that way.

I don't think Elements 2.0 is a neccesarily bad idea. Many brands pull it off, so it's obviously up to the execution. It could add to publicity, and the faithfuls wouldn't care about a number anyway. That said, I imagine a larger change to the interface or mechanics rather than just the content if I am to imagine a big ol' 2.0. That or an overhaul of the content. As it is, we're only getting more and nothing is going away or being modified (in essence), which is awesome :>

[Essence]

I knew Zanz would create something to draw me out of the woodwork eventually.

Oh yes.

[artimies7]

I suppose practically, we'd suffer if 2.0 was a separate game, just from that the old game and the new game would divide the community somewhat. I think 2.0 would be better off as an update to the original with a new interface and perhaps an 'old style' GUI setting.

Oh, and welcome back Essence.

[storyteller]

Im working on some things in bestiary. I would really like a way to have certain cards just played at the start of the match, like a pet. further, say a starting hand and quanta amount, so the AI plays certain combos at the beginning and such. Beyond this, decks that either dont deckout, or have blank 'dummy cards'.

[Keolino]

Im working on some things in bestiary. I would really like a way to have certain cards just played at the start of the match, like a pet. further, say a starting hand and quanta amount, so the AI plays certain combos at the beginning and such. Beyond this, decks that either dont deckout, or have blank 'dummy cards'.

1. Pets for AI, sounds interesting, I think that might be fun and is maybe something to consider.
2. starting hand and quanta amount at start...? Just no. I don't want them to play the exact same cards each fight. Just like normal players, they should be able to suffer from a bad draw.
3. decks that don't deck-out...? Give them 60 cards... That makes it unlikely that they deck out. But just like every deck (and every AI) should have a bad draw at one point, they should also deck out at one point. (And well, there is Eternity after all...)
4. Blank dummy cards...? I don't even know in which AI deck I would put something like that...

[CuCN]

I think the blank cards go with the no deckout idea, so instead of running out of cards it starts drawing dummy cards.

[storyteller]

blank cards also have other uses:

copy card
amnesia effect
custom cards
base card for card creation effects - canvas card
etc

[J6U]

I think the blank cards go with the no deckout idea, so instead of running out of cards it starts drawing dummy cards.

Or Relics as blank cards.