Elements 1.31

[The_Mormegil]

Nice change. I think Nymph is a bit too strong with those stats. The others seem about fine, perhaps Auburn needs some less attack.

...sidenote: if this patch enters mid-war, Water will be glad to have kept some NTs in their Vault.

[Annele]

If you're changing Nymphs, I was wondering if Water Nymph could be changed to Nymph Goddess or something similer?
It's just that Nymph Queen --> Water Nymph doesn't improve, it downgrades.

[Pineapple]

If you're changing Nymphs, I was wondering if Water Nymph could be changed to Nymph Goddess or something similer?
It's just that Nymph Queen --> Water Nymph doesn't improve, it downgrades.

Make a name for all the other upgraded nymphs and then we'll get talking ^^

[Cunning_Wish]

I like Nymph in 1.31

and Jezebel will become very powerful

[majofa]

Upgrading the Nymphs is good, but Auburn Nymph and Nymph Queen don't need that much attack.

[RavingRabbid]

Upgrading the Nymphs is good, but Nymph Queen doesn't need that much attack.

Because everybody knows that Nymph Queen decks are dominant in pvp.

[majofa]

Upgrading the Nymphs is good, but Nymph Queen doesn't need that much attack.

Because everybody knows that Nymph Queen decks are dominant in pvp.

Auburn Nymph and Nymph Queen would be fine with 4-5 attack. Plus, I'm pretty sure I never said to keep its attack at 1.

[RavingRabbid]

Upgrading the Nymphs is good, but Nymph Queen doesn't need that much attack.

Because everybody knows that Nymph Queen decks are dominant in pvp.

Auburn Nymph and Nymph Queen would be fine with 4-5 attack. Plus, I'm pretty sure I never said to keep its attack at 1.

Auburn Nymph is usable before-buff. I find it hard to have an use for Queen right now. Also, I don't see where the gigantic power would be in Queen.

[majofa]

Yes, Auburn Nymph is definitely the worser of the two and should probably have no more than 3 attack... Nymph Queen needs more than 1 attack, I'm just saying 6 is too high. Also, I liked the other buff ideas for Nymph Queen, ones that were related to the other nymphs in play.

[RavingRabbid]

Yes, Auburn Nymph is definitely the worser of the two and should probably have no more than 3 attack... Nymph Queen needs more than 1 attack, I'm just saying 6 is too high. Also, I liked the other buff ideas for Nymph Queen, ones that were related to the other nymphs in play.

I don't understand why would 6 be so high for nymph queen.

[Tiko]

I don't really see the point of debate about the Queen. It's really nothing other than a 'new' middle hitter for Water which now actually worth its cost. Yes, she can multiply herself for ~half of her cost (~2/3 if NT, for the cost of a quantum generator) but even with that it doesn't solve any real issue the element has. She's still expensive, slow, and vulnurable to any kind of shield you put in her way, just like Water altogether. The only 'real' buff she got is that she actually survives some CC now. Reducing her attack by 1 makes her too similar to other Water creatures, reducing further brings her down to the zone of renundancy again. I've played around with many ideas I already had before, and I haven't found even one really outstanding option that'd make her so-called OP currently.

About the other Nymphs: Most of them really deserved the stat boost, the only concern I have is maybe the Auburn and the Blue one. They already have (one of ) the most powerful abilities, and their stats make them almost insane now. My personal opinion is that the Blue was fine the way she was (upgraded she had a nice attack boost anyway), but right now she can survive 8/9 (!) UGs by herself which is more like an overkill now. For the Auburn I have no solution, but she is (almost) similarly extreme with her toughness paired up with her creature lockdown capabilities.

Also, why is that, when the often noted 'worst element' recieves something many of you cry out in panic about how powerful it will become? Just look at the first few pages of the Flooding topic..

..and another thing: how the hell all this could do *any* harm to PvP?!

[The_Mormegil]

I like Blue buff, it makes the damsel in distress deck worth it even without Quint. And Quint slows that deck down to nothingness. Using her alongside other Air creatures is fine IMO.

Auburn buff is a bit too much, perhaps.

As for Queen, it's simple: FFQ costs 6 quanta and for 2 off-element quanta produces a 3 atk critter. Nymph Queen would cost the same through in-element NT but has 3 more attack, and for 2 more quanta and one quanta producer she doesn't just create another creature, but a copy of herself. So double the punch of Firefly Queen, spawning way faster, and in a mono to boot. I think it's a bit too much. I agree it doesn't solve Water's problems, but it is a bit unbalanced. Losing a quanta producer is not worth that much.