Elements 1.29

[RRQJ]

So, just to get this straight, if a player loses to an arena deck and votes down, effectively nothing has changed compared to the same situation pre-1.292.  If they vote up, though, the deck gains double rating and double , yes? (My platinum deck has 1 win but gained 20 and 14 rating; normally 1 win would be 10 and <12 rating).

[dragonsdemesne]

So, just to get this straight, if a player loses to an arena deck and votes down, effectively nothing has changed compared to the same situation pre-1.292.  If they vote up, though, the deck gains double rating and double , yes? (My platinum deck has 1 win but gained 20 and 14 rating; normally 1 win would be 10 and <12 rating).

Yes.  If everyone hates your deck, you are still no worse off electrum-wise than before.  If even a few people like it, you're ahead.  The only real difference is that well-liked decks will have a better chance of rising high on the leaderboard, but that's just for show, other than top ten electrum rewards, and even that is still fairly small.

[russianspy1234]

That's Zanz punishing you for abusing the poor Bronze players when the shards came out.

my score just went down for beating bronze as well.  to 12764.  is it still abusing if its the only league you can even get close to being able to get rares from?  cuz i only have like a 20% winrate in silver.

[moomoose]

its a good thing that score is largely irrelevant.

[russianspy1234]

its a good thing that score is largely irrelevant.

aside from determining how many points you get to use on your arena deck.

[bored_ninja777]

so im confused on this rating system.. i have a 22/9 arena deck in gold. and it went from -12 rating to -72 rating? is that the thumbs down thing 72 times? i think that is bull.. my deck was a random dragon entropy deck. i just threw it together with no real strategy in mind other than put the dragons i was forced to use into play quickly. yet 22/9 is not in the top 500?

[Elite arbiter]

so im confused on this rating system.. i have a 22/9 arena deck in gold. and it went from -12 rating to -72 rating? is that the thumbs down thing 72 times? i think that is bull.. my deck was a random dragon entropy deck. i just threw it together with no real strategy in mind other than put the dragons i was forced to use into play quickly. yet 22/9 is not in the top 500?

I'm not sure what you mean by -12 to -72, or if it has to do with the rating system. When was it -12, and when was it -72? The closest thing I can think of to cause that is if losses are -30 in gold and you just lost 2 matches in a row. But I'm not seeing where the rating system comes into this. Are you saying that its "bull" that your deck got pushed out by less standard decks because they are creative?

All the thumbs up system is, if you rate a deck thumbs up their victory over you counts double. Thats literally all it does, and thumbs down = what happened before when a deck beat you.

[Polari]

yet 22/9 is not in the top 500?

Why should it be top 500? Looking at the current gold leaderboards, there's a 23-7 deck currently 477th. 22-9 is not in the top 500 because there are over 500 decks that are doing better, I don't see what's the problem here.

[bored_ninja777]

well w/e the case.. seemed little off that 22/9 was doing just fine and then all of a sudden no change in my stats and its over 500... one thing i have noticed i dont like about the "randomness" of things.. I have had decks play 3 matches in matter of 10 minutes.. and then some times i can go half the day without a single match.. how is that fair? i was <500 during the night. wake up in the morning and its 779th.. with no stat changes in wins or losses.. so that means EVERY other persons deck above mine.. was played against more often than mine.

Also, when playing in arena.. I have NEVER once played against anyone in the top 10.. of any of the lgs no matter how many ive done or hours i played. doesnt that kind of defeat the purpose of taking down the top decks if you never get to play them?

[RRQJ]

if you're in gold, your not just fighting against other decks but also against the massive influx of new decks.  Chances are your deck moved down not because of other people's decks being played more, but because new decks coming in push it down.

As for the top 10, the fact that they are in the top 10 means they've probably been played a lot.  You just weren't one of the players who played them.  And honestly, I would rather avoid them since they are most likely strong decks that would put my win streak in jeopardy.

[bored_ninja777]

but new decks wouldnt effect mine if it was already less than 200.. which it was.. maybe other decks got hit more than mine and won and pushed me out idk.. just seems little off. w/e ill live.. not like any of mine last more than 3 days. and why avoid the best decks.. those are the ones worth beating.. the rare spin sucks.. ive had more than 50% of them give me nothing.. and the ones i did win.. i won a useless SOD or SOG..i actually won a shard of sac from someones deck.. the only new shard i have. 

[RRQJ]

actually new decks affect all decks below 200-250, depending on where the 0 rating rank lies.  Basically you have to have positive rating to avoid incoming decks pushing you down.

The best decks are worth beating...if you beat them.  All my new shards were from the bonus spins, so having to play a high rank usually slows me down.