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Re: Elements 1.29 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=31187.msg406730#msg406730
« Reply #648 on: October 09, 2011, 12:07:18 am »
it would be nice if we could just pay 1000 coin for a new shard from the bazaar.
Then it wouldnt be rare...
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Re: Elements 1.29 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=31187.msg406736#msg406736
« Reply #649 on: October 09, 2011, 12:14:42 am »
as if miracle, pharoah, squid or any weapon is actually 'rare' beyond the namesake classification.  the only actually 'rare' cards in the game are currently the four new shards.

something can be rare and purchasable, it just costs more.  thats why there is a $4000 pinball machine for sale.
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Re: Elements 1.29 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=31187.msg406739#msg406739
« Reply #650 on: October 09, 2011, 12:17:11 am »
Which is part of the reason why Zanz removed T50. I've yet to see a single new shard as well, whereas some have 5+ of some of them, and I've been farming several hours. It will even out in a few days/weeks/months. I'm in no hurry.
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Re: Elements 1.29 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=31187.msg406750#msg406750
« Reply #651 on: October 09, 2011, 12:26:50 am »
Math or not .. you should at least on the Final spin win w/e it is that matches... so you dont go through all that work and get nothing for it. I agree weapons dont = rare.. i have 12 morning glories, 6 lobotomizers, and othe rrares.. 15 miracles? etc.. only thing i would say is rare is nymphs .. which can only get from oracle so far as ive seen. be nice if relics were worth something.

I think more quests or something would make it more enjoyable.. after a while its just same old thing over and over...also needing CONSECUTIVE wins makes it more un fun. yes 3 plat wins isnt many but 3 in a row is not easy by any means.. id rather fight FGs. bronze takes forever to do whatever it is 6 or 7.. and once in while u get to 5th or 6th win and randomly get shafted by bad draws or start and they happen to run some rush deck like all rest of the "noobs" use.. not that using already proven methods is really "noob" like.. but tends to leave the game very uncreative and repetitively boring. If changed to just winning enough to fill the circles it would at least make things a little better.

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Re: Elements 1.29 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=31187.msg406753#msg406753
« Reply #652 on: October 09, 2011, 12:30:33 am »
i put in an all-pillar arena deck, i suggest everyone else do the same.  in the end everyone will make more money beating on the dumby decks than they would winning 5 coin per win and will get quicker bonus spins.
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Re: Elements 1.29 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=31187.msg406755#msg406755
« Reply #653 on: October 09, 2011, 12:31:21 am »
Are Shards going to be Relics in spins?  If not, I'm just waiting a month until they start showing up regularly in Arena decks and winning them that way.  They're cool and all, but I don't have time to grind like that these days.
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Re: Elements 1.29 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=31187.msg406759#msg406759
« Reply #654 on: October 09, 2011, 12:38:42 am »
Are Shards going to be Relics in spins?  If not, I'm just waiting a month until they start showing up regularly in Arena decks and winning them that way.  They're cool and all, but I don't have time to grind like that these days.
They appear as normal in special spins, so I would imagine they appear as normal against decks that have them in Arena as well.
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Re: Elements 1.29 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=31187.msg406761#msg406761
« Reply #655 on: October 09, 2011, 12:43:48 am »
i put in an all-pillar arena deck, i suggest everyone else do the same.  in the end everyone will make more money beating on the dumby decks than they would winning 5 coin per win and will get quicker bonus spins.
that kind of defeats purpose of arena being better than top 50.. i do agree that arena has improved over top50 but it has also led to the obvious imbalances in the game e.g. firestalls being overpowered etc.. which has led to this update giving fire a slight nerf and fixing other cards which I am more or less happy about.
I think instead of having ppl put in dummy decks.. (which earn nothing for them aka selfless act i suppose) that the reward system be changed..

maybe at least 1 win no matter what when it comes to the rare spin...
If you win before all the "spins" per slot are up keep spinning to possibly win a 2nd rare? I know this would be nice seeing how i won a titan and a SOD first spin and i wanted neither of them.  it would give me the chance to get a diff rare.
or just make it so consecutive wins are no longer needed.

Im not saying make things "easier" but at least make them more rewarding.. 2 hours of grinding and all i have to show are an SOD and a titan.. and very little electrum earned.. not a huge reward per time deal. i do understand some of it is luck but still.. 2 hours for 2 useless rares i have plenty of.
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Re: Elements 1.29 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=31187.msg406773#msg406773
« Reply #656 on: October 09, 2011, 01:03:25 am »
Grinding silver is very profitable.
That's what I've been doing.
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Re: Elements 1.29 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=31187.msg406778#msg406778
« Reply #657 on: October 09, 2011, 01:09:05 am »
Are Shards going to be Relics in spins?  If not, I'm just waiting a month until they start showing up regularly in Arena decks and winning them that way.  They're cool and all, but I don't have time to grind like that these days.
They appear as normal in special spins, so I would imagine they appear as normal against decks that have them in Arena as well.
They do appear as shards in normal spins. Just won a SoG from a regular match against a bronze deck.

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Re: Elements 1.29 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=31187.msg406785#msg406785
« Reply #658 on: October 09, 2011, 01:13:05 am »
Part of what makes me ehh about the complaints about farming arena is the rewards to the risk. Gold is worth something like 115-130 per win, and the decks are weaker than a FG, not to mention that you lose less electrum when you lose as well. Granted, it takes a better deck to streak through Arena than it does FGs, but that's more because the FGs are set in stone and easier to analyze. I feel like beating an FG should net you a larger Electrum reward. Now that said, if it would be bad to make FGs more profitable to farm electrumwise, maybe instead you could get a 'special' spin when you beat them after the normal spins. This would balance the difficulty of FGs out with the rewards in Arena.
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Re: Elements 1.29 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=31187.msg406991#msg406991
« Reply #659 on: October 09, 2011, 01:26:12 pm »
Grinding silver is very profitable.
That's what I've been doing.
Do u think so? It's a 40 E win each game with no EM. FGs are much more profittable!
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