A few details about T500

[silux]

user-friendly=programmer hostile

Making something that fullfit user's wishes is totally hard for the programmer.
I can actively give an hand with this project but first i need to understand how it's coded.

[Hodari]

Can a player with a high score (e.g. lvl 40) generate decks for lower leagues (e.g. Bronze)?

This is something I am actually thinking about:

Letting high level player submit decks in low level leagues might cause a flattening in variety (bronze league have mostly lvl19, silver lvl39, etc.).
However, higher level leagues will yield more coins per win, giving players a reason to move to a higher league.

Not letting high level players in low level leagues might cause certain leagues to overcrowd over time. Right now the score limits are set to divide the entire game population in 4 fractions that are about 25% each; my guess is that the gold league will overcrowd over time.

The discussion about this particular issue is open.

hmm 2 ideas for this:

1. To prevent any one league form overcrowding too much, how about instead of having fixed score limits for each level, instead make it so the level requirement table is automatically updated every week or even once a month to maintain certain limits(such as ~25% in each league or minimum of 1000 players in each).

2.  In order to allow people to submit decks in lower leveled leagues, make it so the deck level determines which league it will be played in.  So for example if I have a score of 138k, that puts me at level 64 and would allow me to make a platinum league deck.  However if I wanted to compete in the gold league instead, I would have to use less upgrades so that my deck was level 59 or less(if you wanted to provide further incentive for people to compete in the highest level available to them and keep certain leagues from being all max level decks, you could even say that in order to compete in gold league like that, I would have to make no higher than level 55 instead, while people who were actually only level 59 could still use a level 59 deck in gold league, thus giving them some advantage).

[Xenocidius]

This is going to give add a lot of value to the FG Proposals (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/board,263.0.html) section, considering high level decks can actually fully utilize the decks in there.

Come to think of it, high level players could actually directly copy existing Gods (except for Paradox)! *shudders at Hermes deck*

By the current levels, I'm only level 51 ... better start farming some score.

Actually, forget that, better start farming rares from Top 50 while it lasts ..

[The_Mormegil]

This is going to give add a lot of value to the FG Proposals (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/board,263.0.html) section, considering high level decks can actually fully utilize the decks in there.

I think we're going to add a new section very soon for T500 decks only. If somebody wants to share those, that is.

[ilovecandy]

can't wait for t500 and the funny deck variety we'll find there 

has there aaaany rough time estimate been announced yet? like "early summer" maybe? ^^

[Hodari]

Come to think of it, high level players could actually directly copy existing Gods (except for Paradox)! *shudders at Hermes deck*

Yeah, I had also been worried about Hermes-type decks.  Rainbow copies would also be hard and also have the added advantage of being able to more easily work in whatever random card the Oracle gives you.  Has anyone come up with reliable counters to either of these FG's yet?  Also life or fire rush decks could be a problem..if those were already popular for t50 before, think how hard they'll be with a FG version.

[Higurashi]

There are many good options against Rainbow, but no counter. The Hermes counter of PA'd Phase Shields and TU has been very reliable for me.

Regardless, you will be seeing much worse decks than those. :>

[The_Mormegil]

you will be seeing much worse decks than those. :>

Yeah, I'm actually practicing with my daily Oracle predictions, and some of the decks I created scare the hell out of me. I'm afraid Platinum League won't be playable.

[10 men]

Yeah. That's actually something I'm worried about; that the higher Leagues (especially Platinum) are just too frustrating to play. I'm pretty sure that even with those 5 copies of a card requirement I could make decks that are just about unbeatable, and even highly unfavourable if you take a direct counter. Just think about a beefed up Rainbow that has a better quanta balance, Supernovas and some superior choices, like Pulverizer instead of Eagle's Eye. Doesn't really matter which five cards he has to feature, the rest of the deck will still be insane.

An idea I had to possibly fix this: What if your level not only determined the deck you can submit but also your options when you go fight against the T500. So you might fight against triple mark decks but at least you have a triple mark of your own. This seems quite exciting as it would really add another dimension to PvE deckbuilding.

[Pineapple]

Or, you can have a sidebar and only need to win 3/5 of the repeated matches against that one deck to win triple the rewards.
Or, you can see the next deck you're going to play in t500 and can build your own deck to counter it.

[YoungSot]

Yeah. That's actually something I'm worried about; that the higher Leagues (especially Platinum) are just too frustrating to play. I'm pretty sure that even with those 5 copies of a card requirement I could make decks that are just about unbeatable, and even highly unfavourable if you take a direct counter. Just think about a beefed up Rainbow that has a better quanta balance, Supernovas and some superior choices, like Pulverizer instead of Eagle's Eye. Doesn't really matter which five cards he has to feature, the rest of the deck will still be insane.

An idea I had to possibly fix this: What if your level not only determined the deck you can submit but also your options when you go fight against the T500. So you might fight against triple mark decks but at least you have a triple mark of your own. This seems quite exciting as it would really add another dimension to PvE deckbuilding.

This is a fantastic idea. It is going to be very difficult to give electrum or card rewards that are sufficient to encourage players to play against competitively designed decks with FG powers. But the chance to actually play as a FG? That'd make playing againt t500 my new favorite hobby!

[Higurashi]

An idea I had to possibly fix this: What if your level not only determined the deck you can submit but also your options when you go fight against the T500. So you might fight against triple mark decks but at least you have a triple mark of your own. This seems quite exciting as it would really add another dimension to PvE deckbuilding.

Best. Idea. Ever.