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Re: Oracle : Paradox https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9609.msg1079908#msg1079908
« Reply #96 on: June 13, 2013, 07:06:51 pm »
Probably less reliable than the Silence variant that has made several appearances in this thread, but absolutely hilarious:

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Worked like a charm, thanks!

For me too. This deck should go on the front page.

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Hmm.  This deck didn't work for me at all.  He basically tossed out a couple RoLs, then added two Deja Vu and I died a slow death before any shields came or any creatures became powerful enough to copy (I did Rage Potion a 5/5 Deja Vu before it copied itself,  and another one later on after it had copied).  How are you supposed to stop the build up of light quanta?  A Rage potion every three turns doesn't seem to be very reliable CC.  Maybe I just got a bad draw (with no shields, it seems that way), but I'm not sure this deck could keep up even with the shields.
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Re: Oracle : Paradox https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9609.msg1079943#msg1079943
« Reply #97 on: June 13, 2013, 09:46:21 pm »
With Shields it's easy. Why? Because of when AI plays Miracle. You simply whittle them down with 10-20 attack per turn (depending on how bursty your deck is), then hit them for over 50 damage on the last turn when they have about 50 left.

I wouldn't recommend trying to deny  :light in most matches. Dims have always been more than enough to defend against Paradox and similar FG's, and Miracle is easily circumvented.
But yes, you need to draw Shields. Sometimes you don't. Happens with all Dim decks that have no draw power. I'd love SoBe's in that deck if I ever used it, actually.
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Re: Oracle : Paradox https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9609.msg1083345#msg1083345
« Reply #98 on: June 28, 2013, 03:44:20 am »
With Shields it's easy. Why? Because of when AI plays Miracle. You simply whittle them down with 10-20 attack per turn (depending on how bursty your deck is), then hit them for over 50 damage on the last turn when they have about 50 left.

I wouldn't recommend trying to deny  :light in most matches. Dims have always been more than enough to defend against Paradox and similar FG's, and Miracle is easily circumvented.
But yes, you need to draw Shields. Sometimes you don't. Happens with all Dim decks that have no draw power. I'd love SoBe's in that deck if I ever used it, actually.

Right - I get the strategy, it just doesn't seem to work out for me.  I even threw in three SoBrevs, but it didn't help much.  This time he only had 2/2 deja vu-s on the field (but with 8 of them, the damage is not insignificant).  I got the shields up and was waiting for a big creature to come...  and they never came.  I ended up TUing a couple deja vu-s but only did paltry damage.  I died with 2 cards left, after all of my shields ran out....  He didnt' bless any Deja Vu-s or get any big creatures on the field.  Just bad luck (again), I guess, but I think I'll try a different deck.


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Re: Oracle : Paradox https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9609.msg1084831#msg1084831
« Reply #99 on: July 04, 2013, 07:41:47 pm »
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Re: Oracle : Paradox https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9609.msg1086770#msg1086770
« Reply #100 on: July 13, 2013, 04:42:58 pm »
I've had the worst luck with paradox....  just tried a mod of ROL/Hope and got smashed again.  The best counter I've been able to use (when grinding) is PDials.  It doesn't seem like the best build to take on Paradox, but it works better than a lot of the semi-upped decks I've been trying.
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Re: Oracle : Paradox https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9609.msg1088043#msg1088043
« Reply #101 on: July 20, 2013, 06:47:42 pm »
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Stop drawing when you have at least a Steam Machine on the field, a Phase Shield in play and a shield in hand. Should work unupgraded as well.

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Re: Oracle : Paradox https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9609.msg1091095#msg1091095
« Reply #102 on: August 06, 2013, 07:07:58 pm »
Only bad part about the 500HP EM deck: I accidentally Mitosis'd the Gemfinder instead of the Shrieker... most rage-inducingly long game EVER. Probably, add a Mitosis (at least for derpers like me) and an Animate Weapon (So you can RT your creatures and Paradox's at the same time).

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Re: Oracle : Paradox https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9609.msg1109269#msg1109269
« Reply #103 on: November 13, 2013, 07:53:49 am »
I refined lolo262626's 500HP EM deck.
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RT Blessed creatures.
Don’t start using Mitosis until you have all 6 Granite Skins and enough Earth to get to 500HP.
Save the last Granite Skin for the turn you’ll win in order to push your HP to a full 500.
This worked pretty well.
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It worked, but I missed the 500HP EM because one Granite Skin was the last card in the deck and Paradox never played any miracles.

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Re: Oracle : Paradox https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9609.msg1109283#msg1109283
« Reply #104 on: November 13, 2013, 11:18:48 am »
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Stop drawing when you have at least a Steam Machine on the field, a Phase Shield in play and a shield in hand. Should work unupgraded as well.

Tried it, but I was lacking Aether quantum. Why not put it in some Aether Tower or change the mark to Aether?

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Re: Oracle : Paradox https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9609.msg1110393#msg1110393
« Reply #105 on: November 19, 2013, 02:43:02 pm »
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It worked, but I missed the 500HP EM because one Granite Skin was the last card in the deck and Paradox never played any miracles.

Didn't work for me. Paradox buffed a deja-vu to 11 attack, then TUd it a few times then split them, generating like 10x11 attack critters suddenly which overwhelmed my single SoG + diamond defense (did not find an eternity yet, but even if I drew one, it could not handle such a burst damage).

So I tried to come up with something using dims but still aiming at 500HP and built this -- worked in trainer test:
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Re: Oracle : Paradox https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9609.msg1127324#msg1127324
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Re: Oracle : Paradox https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9609.msg1138345#msg1138345
« Reply #107 on: May 29, 2014, 02:29:26 pm »
I've had a very easy EM with this mod of the OP decks:

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Frankly, I don't even think the lightnings are necessary, more Lobotomizers would probably be better (I only have 2 upgraded, though). I think I'll replace them with an extra dragon, sanctuary and lobotomizer when I get Paradox again...

 

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