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Re: Oracle : Paradox https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9609.msg345997#msg345997
« Reply #36 on: June 04, 2011, 06:20:22 pm »
The deck in the OP seems a bit inconsistent. I had the same problem that many others had where Paradox did not play a ROL until it was too late to do any good. Fire Lance sudden killer (1.25) is another unupped deck that seems to be more effective against Paradox.

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Re: Oracle : Paradox https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9609.msg355267#msg355267
« Reply #37 on: June 23, 2011, 08:43:41 am »
I went with a lance/firestall adapted to paradox and everything that could go wrong, did go wrong. Well allmost everything..
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Started with one pendulum in my hand.. no suprise here that it ofcourse was the one pendulum that wasnt fire..
No problem ofcourse.. unless paradox starts with 4 or more rays of light, a few blessings and a morning glory.. wich ofcourse he did..
well after that second turn i drew a fire pendulum and could play the sog i had in my hand.. decided to wait a few turns and play a shield first (having this early was the one thing that didnt go wrong.)  Ofcourse i didnt have an upped fireshield in my hand and with only 2 pendulums of wich one was light it took some time to accumulate 6 fire.

I played the shield, then a sog. The morning glory allready chopped about 20 HP of my bar. Paradox then pumped up a deja vu and i only had lances as cc.. after a few turns and blessings i decided i couldnt wait for the shield to kill it and waiting for a ragepot had allready taken most of my hp.. so as not to die misserably i used a lance. After that paradox kept spamming deja's and blessings so i used another.
My HP dropped to 7.. and i thankfully got some more sogs and paradox didnt play any TU's. Finally i healed back up to a safe zone. I rather had a ragepot or firestorm somewhere in the first 29 cards, but oh well.. all wasnt lost.
11 cards left.. i drew my first and last rage pot of the game (the 5 other pots + 3 firestorms where all hiding in the last 9 cards of the deck).. used it on a 5 att, wich by then didnt matter much anymore since there were two.
9 cards left i had the 4 lances i had left and over 162 fire quanta, played the mirror and wacked the annoyingly lucky FG to death..

In a nutshell.. the worst case scenario actually happened and not even that could stop the deck from killing paradox.

I'd say, if you're going upped, firestall is the way to go for this FG.

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Re: Oracle : Paradox https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9609.msg355287#msg355287
« Reply #38 on: June 23, 2011, 10:42:23 am »
I'm afraid that was far from the worst case. I've gone 3-2 with completely upped Firestall against Paradox, and all losses are due to rushes. Try not drawing a shield at all, and having him TU those Blessed Dejas when you were low on HP.

Mainly, there are cards in the classic Firestall you don't need. For this reason, you can cut down on the size to 30 cards. As kobis has done, you can then add more effective CC.
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Re: Oracle : Paradox https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9609.msg356608#msg356608
« Reply #39 on: June 25, 2011, 08:11:56 pm »


Deck doesn't work so well when Paradox doesn't play a single Ray of Light. (Considering there are 16 RoL's in Paradox's deck, my luck must be terrible.)

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Re: Oracle : Paradox https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9609.msg357002#msg357002
« Reply #40 on: June 26, 2011, 04:58:56 pm »


Deck doesn't work so well when Paradox doesn't play a single Ray of Light. (Considering there are 16 RoL's in Paradox's deck, my luck must be terrible.)
Same happened to me. The first RoL came out the right before I died.
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Re: Oracle : Paradox https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9609.msg357360#msg357360
« Reply #41 on: June 27, 2011, 03:52:44 pm »
Fat upped deck with plenty of rare but work great and grant huge EM reward.

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Shields are upped because you want his RoL to stay alive in order for him to play cards and deck him out.
Works, but had to deck him out.

Might work better with the shield unupgraded so you can kill the RoL's. Miracle makes it a very boring match ;)

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Re: Oracle : Paradox https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9609.msg358693#msg358693
« Reply #42 on: June 30, 2011, 12:16:21 pm »
Fat upped deck with plenty of rare but work great and grant huge EM reward.

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Shields are upped because you want his RoL to stay alive in order for him to play cards and deck him out.
Works, but had to deck him out.

Might work better with the shield unupgraded so you can kill the RoL's. Miracle makes it a very boring match ;)

220 HP EM though.
Decking him out is the goal of the deck. And the great reward make the time spent worthy.

Shield is upgraded because you want it to play all its light powered cards and not to have its hand clogged by them.
It also grant more protection, cutting the unblessed déja vu damage by two. Could save your life.

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Re: Oracle : Paradox https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9609.msg359263#msg359263
« Reply #43 on: July 01, 2011, 04:58:22 pm »
Good points Burne, I'll shut up now!

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Re: Oracle : Paradox https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9609.msg363641#msg363641
« Reply #44 on: July 10, 2011, 07:35:11 am »
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Re: Oracle : Paradox https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9609.msg376351#msg376351
« Reply #45 on: August 06, 2011, 02:01:58 pm »
Wow first Recluse ith 10 cards left and last 3 in the last 5 cards... should've added some Recluses

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Re: Oracle : Paradox https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9609.msg378560#msg378560
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This deck from one of the other FGs works well.  If he puts up mirror shield instead of hope, just play your own and firebolt yourself.
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Re: Oracle : Paradox https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9609.msg384049#msg384049
« Reply #47 on: August 23, 2011, 11:36:38 pm »
Ahem. Why doesn't anyone just use mono-aether? Cheap, no/minimal rares, effective.

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