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Ya beat me to it. Well, I won't hold it against ya. ;) Actually, I think I like yours better than what I was cooking up. Well done.Lol, and NOW you tell me? :) Man, I should have just waited for couple more days.. It took like 2 hours of mindless grinding and 1 hour of painful writing to come up with this thread.
I tried this after creating an EvilHamster account. I don't think there's a quest to kill level 3.You sure about that? Could be because I first finished 500 quest and then started doing this thread from memory, and I'm not 100% sure about those quests.
And supernovas are great until you have to discard because you have 3 in your hand and only 1 chaos mana :(
Good stuff. I followed this exactly when building my rainbow. Might be nice to include a link to some of the other posted rainbow decks (jmizzle's, alsaska/vice's), not because it looks like shameless self-advertisement, but just to make sure they're also seen - you know, for those (like me) that are lazy and don't want to search the forum. Unless those decks don't work well unupped, in which case it's fine as it is.Problem with those other decks is that you need upgraded cards to be successful with them. I'm 99% sure you cannot run a small deck with non-upgraded cards, although I haven't tried it after the Sundial fix..
Also, you might mention that lobo is also difficult to win. I know it's not as useful as eternity and pulverizer, but I still think it's worth mentioning.
I'm playing now with this proposed rainbow deck, and after some time I'm quite confiedent with it, I even beat Graviton two times ;).Graboid is there because it uses earth, does pretty good damage, and can be used as a fall guy. You can replace it with Enchant Artifact, no problem. That's actually one of the numerous variations that this deck has.
I do, though, have some comments to this deck:
- Why the graboid? I never found it useful in any particular way, just another creature. Is it just for getting some for the earth quantum?
- Why no "Enchant Artifact"? I added it and found it _extremely_ useful against Graviton and Hermes, especially to protect your pillars/towers.
- I also added more quantum towers, as especially in the early game I often lack the right quantum to build up a good defense.
Quantum Pillars and Novas are last, after the Otys. I, personally, would upgrade all my Pillars first, before upgrading Novas, because Upgraded Novas (aka Supernovas) require two Entropy Quantum to play, unlike Nova, which doesn't have a cost.I think it's better to upgrade only half the Pillars first, then some other cards like Novas, and then the other half of Pillars. Having 2 piles of Pillars helps against Seism.
Quantum. You get 24 Quantum. Also to note, that when you use a Supernova, it costs Two Entropy Quantum to use, but then it gives you two Entropy Quantum from it's skill, so all of your other elements will go up by two, but your Entropy will stay the same. This does, however, allow you to link multiple Supernovas in a row.Quantum Pillars and Novas are last, after the Otys. I, personally, would upgrade all my Pillars first, before upgrading Novas, because Upgraded Novas (aka Supernovas) require two Entropy Quantum to play, unlike Nova, which doesn't have a cost.I think it's better to upgrade only half the Pillars first, then some other cards like Novas, and then the other half of Pillars. Having 2 piles of Pillars helps against Seism.
Yes, Supernovas cost 2 Entropy, but with that 2 Entropy your get 24 Entropy! I think Supernovas are MUCH better than regular Novas.
When I first started playing, I restarted several times and used multiple accounts until I figured out monofire, so I did the quests up through the 150 score quest quite a few times. I can say with confidence that there's definitely not a level 3 quest.I tried this after creating an EvilHamster account. I don't think there's a quest to kill level 3.You sure about that? Could be because I first finished 500 quest and then started doing this thread from memory, and I'm not 100% sure about those quests.
And supernovas are great until you have to discard because you have 3 in your hand and only 1 chaos mana :(
Yeah, sometimes you have to discard but it's not generally that big of a deal. It's pretty easy to come back from that because when you DO get that Supernova, you can start playing cards much faster. I try to use Sundials to buy time until I have that 2 Entropy.
Hi Scared! I wanna make a little suggestion!I forgot to mention that the deck in the picture is not the ultimate level 3 grinding deck. It's just something I used.
I've followed your guide (very usefull!) and i tried a little change in your point 5.
I've used this deck (similar to yours):
Been meaning to post this, but I've been a little busy. I think a great starter deck for new players is an earth/time deck. Start off with the time deck, sell everything, and buy 18 earth pillars, 6 graboids, and 6 shriekers (you'll need to do the first few quests to have enough money). The nice thing about this deck is it's fast against AI3 and you can switch back and forth between this deck and your False God deck. Especially in the beginning, you're going to lose a lot to the False Gods and will need to go back to AI3 to make more money. With this deck, you won't have to spend 100 coins to switch your mark to use your old deck. Although the False God deck will win in AI3 too, it's much slower making money than this earth/time deck. Anyways, it's just another option. Good luck.Good idea, Dragoon. Element switch fatigue is an oft overlooked problem when trying to get some momentum going in the early stages of development. Spending 100 coins every time you switch from playing AI3 to FGs is totally untenable.
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xie de bu cuo .....kexi wo kan bu dong ...........U dont understand English and u come to this forum? I wonder what the schools in the mainland teach....
so i did everything you said in this guide and my 1st game with rainbow against gods i got raped but i wasnt too suprised cuz u said i probly would for a lil while but then my second game i faced mirical i had about 13 cards left doing about 47 damage a turn with full health and he has like 32 and he uses mirical and then it happens again and again and again then the game ends as i deck out with 100hp against a guy with 14 hp left... wahhhh :'(Against Miracle you have to stop drawing multiple cards when you have about 25-20 left in your deck. When you do that, you will most likely kill him even though it will take a lot of time. He might use Miracle 5 times but in the end he will die.
but i expect more of those kind of games but i will just keep on trying. anyways thanks for this guide it has helped me so much! ;D
So glad I found this thread. I now use both scaredgirls and dragoons recommended decks and its alot more fun now. I was getting killed over and over and it sucked >.< I've had more success with Dragoon's deck though. It's a simple strategy that always seems to work. Trying to get enough money to start that rainbow deck which looks like fun. Thanks to the both of you. :)Like I said before, that fire deck I posted is by no means "the perfect deck" for this job. I just used it because it was fast and easy to set up, and level 3 is so easy that you can beat it with almost anything.
i added 3 golden hourglass and 4 time machine cards, to speed up things, which seems to be the point here.I doubt those hourglasses and sundials (? don't know what you mean by "time machine") really speed up the Graboid-Shrieker deck. They would get in the way more often than not.
don't know what you mean by "time machine"Probably time factory (http://elementsthegame.wikia.com/wiki/Time_Factory). Time pillars aren't called pillars, for some reason.
Been meaning to post this, but I've been a little busy. I think a great starter deck for new players is an earth/time deck. Start off with the time deck, sell everything, and buy 18 earth pillars, 6 graboids, and 6 shriekers (you'll need to do the first few quests to have enough money). The nice thing about this deck is it's fast against AI3 and you can switch back and forth between this deck and your False God deck. Especially in the beginning, you're going to lose a lot to the False Gods and will need to go back to AI3 to make more money. With this deck, you won't have to spend 100 coins to switch your mark to use your old deck. Although the False God deck will win in AI3 too, it's much slower making money than this earth/time deck. Anyways, it's just another option. Good luck.i added 3 golden hourglass and 4 time machine cards, to speed up things, which seems to be the point here.
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Been meaning to post this, but I've been a little busy. I think a great starter deck for new players is an earth/time deck. Start off with the time deck, sell everything, and buy 18 earth pillars, 6 graboids, and 6 shriekers (you'll need to do the first few quests to have enough money). The nice thing about this deck is it's fast against AI3 and you can switch back and forth between this deck and your False God deck. Especially in the beginning, you're going to lose a lot to the False Gods and will need to go back to AI3 to make more money. With this deck, you won't have to spend 100 coins to switch your mark to use your old deck. Although the False God deck will win in AI3 too, it's much slower making money than this earth/time deck. Anyways, it's just another option. Good luck.tested this guide today.
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tested this guide today.update
started a new account, built the deck dragoon listed here. got up to 500 points, then farmed t50 with it while i was testing optimum farm deck composition on my main account. this deck won better than half the time against t50. after picking up a some rares and getting 2100 electrum, i built the basic (no-upgrades) scaredgirl rainbow. i won about 1 out of 5 initially, and ended up with 5 upgraded cards in the deck after another couple hours. i started playing the false gods with about 250 electrum and never lost enough that i had to go back to lvl3 or t50.
of course, i have more experience (and focus/patience) than most new players, so it went smoother for me. but still, from new account to partially upgraded rainbow in about 5 hours of play is pretty good.
final stats for the day
score:2486 won:89 lost:52 electrum:882
upgraded cards:5
rares:14
but still, from new account to partially upgraded rainbow in about 5 hours of play is pretty good.Yeah, that's pretty damn good.
I've had a few requests to add a link to my 100% unupgraded t50 grinder to this thread, so here it is:Lol, what are you talking about? That deck is very slow in earning money.
http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,668.msg6864#msg6864 (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,668.msg6864#msg6864)
For all of you new players looking to earn your GodKiller Rainbow money faster, and maybe pick up a rare or 4 along the way, that's your path.
Enjoy.
Lol, what are you talking about? That deck is very slow in earning money.I'm a new player who followed your guide and is currently using your Rainbow deck to farm False Gods. (I'm up to 15 upgraded cards ... thanks.)
Also when hunting for rare cards, if you are smart you don't fight every single top-50 deck. You skip all non-rare farm decks (real decks) and try to find those rare farm decks (decks with only rare cards and pillars).
If you need money to build a Godkiller deck, go fight level 3 AI. If you need rare cards, go fight top-50 and search for those rare farm decks (doesn't matter what deck you have because you will win every time).
That is the fastest way and anyone who says different is not telling the truth.
Do NOT grind top-50 or PvP because it's SLOW.I realize this guide is for newbies, but if you're any good at the game you can make a lot of money really fast playing PvP.
My first curt response from Scaredgirl o_OYou can't just compare how much Electrum you get from a win and base the speed on that. You have to also take into consideration TIME and extra cards won.
With a low rating you'll make ~90g per pvp win, compared to ~15g per elder win. Later on pvp will average out to 50g per win. The issue isn't so much speed, it's skill and the luck of the draw. I wouldn't recommend a noob jump right in to pvp, but if you're starting a second account, or reseting like I did then playing pvp is a good choice.
Posts like this really piss me off.Quote from: ScaredgirlDo NOT grind top-50 or PvP because it's SLOW.I realize this guide is for newbies, but if you're any good at the game you can make a lot of money really fast playing PvP.
2000g after 40 wins:
http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,989.msg10295#msg10295 (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,989.msg10295#msg10295)
Are you sure this can be done in 1 day? Most ppl, especially newbies, won't spend five hours on the computer, let alone playing one game.Well, if you play only 10 minutes a day.. then no, it cannot be done. But if you play 5+ hours.. then yeah, it can be done.
But most people will probably take 2-3 days to do everything.The point of this thread is that it can be done in one day, and can done by anybody without the need to grind 24 hours straight. It should only take a couple of hours to get your own Anti-God rainbow deck going.
Are you sure this can be done in 1 day? Most ppl, especially newbies, won't spend five hours on the computer, let alone playing one game.LIES
Humans have a really powerful ability to grind. (http://services.runescape.com/m=hiscore/hiscores.ws)well, I always get bored after 2 or 3 hours. Guess I'm not like most ppl lol
They play for hours and can do the same to Elements.
Instead of building an AI3 farming deck and then the rainbow deck, start with the time deck and just build the rainbow deck directly. By building only one deck, you can start farming the gods sooner. Although you can sell the AI3 deck, farming the gods will give you way more money. Took me 3 hrs or so to get the rainbow deck.well, I've build the deck in 3 hrs, and that other guy took 5.
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Now to kill some gods!
The problem with that strategy is that non-upgraded rainbow deck is slow at AI3 grinding.
Fastest way is to build a mono-deck, do the quests, and then switch to rainbow. It's not a matter of opinion. Mono-deck is the fastest against AI3. Period.
There is no need to "build" that first mono-deck. All you do is use the cards you are given at the start and make some modifications. That's a very fast process.
Your strategy is by no means a bad one. It's actually something I would probably do myself if I had to start another account. But it is not the fastest way.
Instead of building an AI3 farming deck and then the rainbow deck, start with the time deck and just build the rainbow deck directly. By building only one deck, you can start farming the gods sooner. Although you can sell the AI3 deck, farming the gods will give you way more money. Took me 3 hrs or so to get the rainbow deck.The problem with that strategy is that non-upgraded rainbow deck is slow at AI3 grinding.
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Now to kill some gods!
well, I've build the deck in 3 hrs, and that other guy took 5.That's all the scientific evidence I need. I'm now totally convinced that your way is almost as twice as fast.
I'm actually going to agree with Bob. Most newbies, I would think, that actually like the game (like when I started, for example), are likely play Elements for MANY hours on end for the first couple days if they enjoy as much as the next guy.Are you sure this can be done in 1 day? Most ppl, especially newbies, won't spend five hours on the computer, let alone playing one game.LIES
Are you sure this can be done in 1 day? Most ppl, especially newbies, won't spend five hours on the computer, let alone playing one game.The day I found Elements, I probably played 5 hours straight, using several different accounts (because I wanted to try different strategies).
LOL me also till i finally used one and got to figure out the gameAre you sure this can be done in 1 day? Most ppl, especially newbies, won't spend five hours on the computer, let alone playing one game.The day I found Elements, I probably played 5 hours straight, using several different accounts (because I wanted to try different strategies).
Could you integrate also the new Level 5 into this strategy? I've already managed to upgrade some cards of the proposed rainbow deck (3 x Otys, 2 x Hourglasses and one Nova so far). But now with the new Level 5 I'm wondering if I should grind that frist, altough it seems that rare cards don't appear as often as in False God challenge.To be honest I don't know yet if level 5 should be used or not in fast grinding. I've had only about 10 matches against level 5, and I cannot say anything for certain. What I've seen, level 5 is not that great for grinding because the time it takes to take out one level 5 opponent, you can easily take out 2-3 level 3 opponents. Also against level 3 you almost never lose, but against level 5 it can easily happen if you are unlucky.
What do you think?
Hi, i am new hereTry Scaredgirl's almost un-upgraded Rainbow deck.
i have tried this rainbow deck for FG but failed again and again
then i switched to some other decks and discovered that this deck is better
EM chaos lord and firequeen and paradox and miracle is quite easy for me now
thx for this idea
i also think that upgrading golden hourglass is very very important
there are some suggestions i would like to make
-use protect artifact and eternity if you got them, then you can draw cards happily even if you got 15cards left
-replace graboid with FFQ, graboid really cant do much and drawing FFQ early can be really useful
-replace lava golem with rain of fire, i often cant draw rain of fire
-maybe add one more fallen elf, they speed up the game after you got loads of skeles
Upgrading a oty first is a must imo, the +2 hp is vital against most false gods. Hourglass is good but the 1less quantum isnt that good for your first upgradeSomething I have been thinking about as well. It is a tough one. Most of the FGs have low HP creatures for the unupgraded Otyugh to devour, so it is not a huge deal. Upgraded Otyugh makes a big difference against Graviton, Dark Matter and Obliterator, but those FGs are pretty close to unbeatable with the standard FG killing decks unless it is at least 25% upgraded (in which case both Hourglass and Otyugh should be upgraded).
Whao, this rainbow deck is extremely long to create. I'll just stick with my Aether/time deck. Thanks, though.I disagree with this. I've been grinding level 3 opponents as a new player and I've massed up over 4000 the past few hours (being on-and-off it, I'm doing other stuff too) - it's 1500 per upgraded part and this deck only takes 7 upgrades. I've seen rainbow decks with fully upgraded pillars and other stuff, so this is actually an easy thing to aim for at first.
This thread is very outdated! I almost wasted 6000 upon upgrading those useless Sundials! DELETE OR UPDATE THIS THREAD!It's better if you spend those 6000 in upgrading your reading glasses. At no point does this tutorial tell or recommend that you should upgrade Sundials.
Been meaning to post this, but I've been a little busy. I think a great starter deck for new players is an earth/time deck. Start off with the time deck, sell everything, and buy 18 earth pillars, 6 graboids, and 6 shriekers (you'll need to do the first few quests to have enough money). The nice thing about this deck is it's fast against AI3 and you can switch back and forth between this deck and your False God deck. Especially in the beginning, you're going to lose a lot to the False Gods and will need to go back to AI3 to make more money. With this deck, you won't have to spend 100 coins to switch your mark to use your old deck. Although the False God deck will win in AI3 too, it's much slower making money than this earth/time deck. Anyways, it's just another option. Good luck.Thanks alot, switched to that from my first Build, ,and this works really well on AI3.
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Oh well then I am wrong. But the only reason I added those was because the major reason I was losing with the original deck suggested was because in the case of a bad first draw, my opponents could pull out weapons and shields that became a giant pain (Owl and Eternity to be more specfic) and things like parasites were way annoying. Ill search around for a better Fire Farming/Rush deck.I would go with the shrieker rush deck before it gets nerfed, its your best bet for fast,easy money.
Shrieker Rush will not be nerfed for 1.21 -- Graboid evolve costs were returned to 1 :timeOh well then I am wrong. But the only reason I added those was because the major reason I was losing with the original deck suggested was because in the case of a bad first draw, my opponents could pull out weapons and shields that became a giant pain (Owl and Eternity to be more specfic) and things like parasites were way annoying. Ill search around for a better Fire Farming/Rush deck.I would go with the shrieker rush deck before it gets nerfed, its your best bet for fast,easy money.
Evolve cost of graboids is back to 1, since they are popular, but not as much as I thought.
I've been playing this game since last week and so far I've only won about 2000 electrum.it might just be your new, however to find a good starter deck (make lots of money) find the shrieker rush deck, and it will tell you what to. you can make thousands an hour! if u need any more help message me. OK
Is it the same for everyone, or am I just a slow player? :)
Is the Rainbow deck Scared posted still good to go? I picked up the 6keven tho sundial stasis only 1 turn, yes the deck is still good against FGs
I think to upgrade a card takes forever should be 1000 money becuase i got bored when i got 500 score becuase i couldn't upgrade a cardthen the rewards, card costs rare card cost ext ext would get lower and lower
i got a lev 5 farmer right now almost fully uped kills all but shadowIT's good.
Its also a good pvp deck here it is.i got a lev 5 farmer right now almost fully uped kills all but shadowIT's good.
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i have just registered in the forum in order to say thanx to dreadshadow, he just gave me the best chance of winning half-bloods. BIG thanks to u, dreadshadowAnytime.
OMG! i defeated my first level 5AI i made it elemental master. i actually dont have upgrades yet.. hahaa thank you!;D
I'm pretty new to this game and I tried it before without a tutorial and I was doing pretty bad. :(I only sell the card if it doesn't qualify for 3things.
I came on here and this helped so much! Thanks.
I have one question though.
You get three spins after defeating a level 3 opponent, do you sell the card you get even if it is a rare one?
Thanks :) I'll keep that in mindI'm pretty new to this game and I tried it before without a tutorial and I was doing pretty bad. :(I only sell the card if it doesn't qualify for 3things.
I came on here and this helped so much! Thanks.
I have one question though.
You get three spins after defeating a level 3 opponent, do you sell the card you get even if it is a rare one?
1) It is a rare card
2) I need the card in my deck.
3) I need it for a deck i'm creating.
If it doesn't qualify for them i sell it.
So I tried following the list, but as a new player, I made a miscalculation.just try to find a top 50 farm deck and win one, sorry should have picked eternity.
The OP says that the best weapons are Eternity or else Pulverizer... so I picke Pulverizer.
I then got my 6000 cash and tried to build a ranbow deck. I cannot do it because I have no Eternity. I've picked up another pulverizer and many other weapons but I am sort of annoyed at not having Eternity.
At this point, do I start over and try again?
So I tried following the list, but as a new player, I made a miscalculation.You could always take that 40 card Eternity deck and build a 52 card Pulverizer version of it. Just try to keep relative card amounts the same like this: 2 Otyughs -> 3 Otyughs, etc.
The OP says that the best weapons are Eternity or else Pulverizer... so I picke Pulverizer.
I then got my 6000 cash and tried to build a ranbow deck. I cannot do it because I have no Eternity. I've picked up another pulverizer and many other weapons but I am sort of annoyed at not having Eternity.
At this point, do I start over and try again?
So I tried following the list, but as a new player, I made a miscalculation.Of course not. From time to time there are farming decks.
The OP says that the best weapons are Eternity or else Pulverizer... so I picke Pulverizer.
I then got my 6000 cash and tried to build a ranbow deck. I cannot do it because I have no Eternity. I've picked up another pulverizer and many other weapons but I am sort of annoyed at not having Eternity.
At this point, do I start over and try again?
So I followed this guide. At first I chose Earth and it was long and tedious...as is this whole game.Wow. Are you telling me that you have a 1:10 win:lose ratio against AI3's? And using an Anti-False God deck?!
But then I found this guide and switched to Fire and dropped my deck to 32 and it was amazing. I was practically winning every lvl3 match. So I had finally made enough money to buy the suggested Rainbow deck plus a couple upgrades, which I spent all my money on. I then proceeded to test it out on a few lvl3's, all of which beat me very quickly. I kept at this, thinking I just didn't have a feel for the deck yet. Nope. My win:lose ratio was about 1:10.
So I switch BACK to Fire to grind for more money to upgrade more cards. At this point my upgrades are all 4 Hourglasses and 1 Otyugh. Still, my winnings did not change. I don't see how I am supposed to beat a FG if I can't even beat a lvl3.
IMHO, for a game as repetitive as this, there is far too much grinding necessary to get to the kinda good stuff. There should be different prices for certain cards to be upgraded. For instance, a pillar should not be $1500.
I had more to say concerning upgrades but I figured I'll get ripped apart for this post anyway, so why say it.
Wow. Are you telling me that you have a 1:10 win:lose ratio against AI3's? And using an Anti-False God deck?!Yes, yes I am. And I just finished another FG fight. I was finally kicking ass, had 100HP and would have beat him...if I hadn't run out of cards. While I did have all my Electrum Hourglasses out, I had only used one of them during the whole fight. Not the first time I've ran out with this deck also.
Yeah it's a shame you have to play to earn something.Wow. Are you telling me that you have a 1:10 win:lose ratio against AI3's? And using an Anti-False God deck?!Yes, yes I am. And I just finished another FG fight. I was finally kicking ass, had 100HP and would have beat him...if I hadn't run out of cards. While I did have all my Electrum Hourglasses out, I had only used one of them during the whole fight. Not the first time I've ran out with this deck also.
It's a shame, because this is a good game. Graphics are great, UI is great, overall concept is great. Except the grinding. And the "upgrades".
While I did have all my Electrum Hourglasses out, I had only used one of them during the whole fight. Not the first time I've ran out with this deck also.So I'm guessing you are not using the Eternity anti-deck out trick I talk about in that thread? That's the reason why the deck is only 40 cards. Without Eternity (or without using Eternity correctly) you need about 52-54 cards.
So I followed this guide. At first I chose Earth and it was long and tedious...as is this whole game.I too followed this (and other guides) and have "grinded" my way into two upgraded Rainbow decks and a partially upgraded Fire deck over the past week. I currently have a 16.5k score with 561 wins and 612 losses. I mostly fight FGs, with some farming of t50s.
But then I found this guide and switched to Fire and dropped my deck to 32 and it was amazing. I was practically winning every lvl3 match. So I had finally made enough money to buy the suggested Rainbow deck plus a couple upgrades, which I spent all my money on. I then proceeded to test it out on a few lvl3's, all of which beat me very quickly. I kept at this, thinking I just didn't have a feel for the deck yet. Nope. My win:lose ratio was about 1:10.
So I switch BACK to Fire to grind for more money to upgrade more cards. At this point my upgrades are all 4 Hourglasses and 1 Otyugh. Still, my winnings did not change. I don't see how I am supposed to beat a FG if I can't even beat a lvl3.It isn't necessarily linear. AI3s don't have the same decks or playstyle as the FGs. Honestly, the Rainbow deck isn't really geared for farming AI3 (or t50, or AI5, for that matter). My preference is to use fire decks for farming those opponents. However, I found that forcing myself to play FG's with the unupgraded SG Rainbow deck, with a winning percentage starting at 0% rising to ~20% at best over 100 games. This really forces you to learn the deck although with a horrible win/loss record (if you care about those things). I went back and played against AI5s and saw where I could make mistakes and still recover and win against AI5s.
IMHO, for a game as repetitive as this, there is far too much grinding necessary to get to the kinda good stuff. There should be different prices for certain cards to be upgraded. For instance, a pillar should not be $1500.Actually, IMHO, it's easier (more enjoyable) to farm the FGs (or t50) for extra cards and sell those, than it is to "grind" money. Plus, if you win cards from FGs, they are fully upgraded, so you can either use them right away, or sell them for ~1100-1200 a piece.
I had more to say concerning upgrades but I figured I'll get ripped apart for this post anyway, so why say it.
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Where is fallen druid? I can't find it in the bazar.Fallen Elf
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One thing I've noticed though is that you have a serious nose dive period where you're waiting to draw the right combos of cards to save your ass at the last minute.
If your opponent gets out enough critters or poisons you enough in that time, you're toast.
Does anyone have any suggestions to help reduce this wait time?
Besides the obvious upgrading hourglasses, of course. I've only been able to upgrade one so far.
I do use the hourglasses and sundials to reduce the gap, but it's still slow.
Also, on a side note, I noticed that having 4 critters and one quintessence sucks.I would say the second Otyugh is there mainly to increase the odds of getting one out early. And 3 Hourglasses are enough for this deck, especially if they're unupgraded.
Since just about any deck can kill your critters as soon as they come out and each one is as crucial as every other card in this deck.
So I removed one hungry hungry Oytugh and one hourglass and replaced them with two more quintessences.
Any better ideas?
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Retrovirus was in there to have some more creature control, but found out it was useless, and discarded it for another sundail.
Will upgrade sundials now :)
III. Buy new cardsI believe to be Crimson Dragons ^^
You now have bunch of money that you can buy new cards with. Buy some Pillars and as many high cost/high damage creatures as you can. As you can see from the picture, I bought Grimson Dragons because of their high damage.
Meh, I've done the quests now, and I gotta grind to 6000 electrum.Don't forget the cards you win, you can sell any you don't need (though keep the rare cards unless you have 6 of them).
Considering I get in average 20 gold per win, and that I win 9/10 games I have to play around 340 matches to get that much electrum ???
So my question is : should I keep trying with this or get back to lvl 3 or maybe lvl 5 farming untill I can upgrade at least otys and druid?Without at least a few upgraded cards, FGs are going to be very tough. Even with a fully upgraded rainbow, they are tough. You might be better off by using a faster deck at a lower level until you can afford to upgrade at least the Otys and the Hourglasses.
4t4 58o 58o 58o 58o 58o 58o 58o 58o 58o 58o 58o 58o 58o 58o 58o 58o 58o 590 590 590 590 590 590 591 591 591 591 591 591 594 594 594 594 594 594you should keep 12 of each weapon, that way you can have six upgraded (eventually) and 6 unupgraded for tournements and PvP1 and stuffI think that for PvP1 if you have any upped cards they get unupped for that match and stay upped if you chose to use them at another date. That's what I read somewhere, anyway.
also, I've been top50 farming for like ages now, and I've won 21 shards, but not a single one was a blue shard :'(
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I do, however, have a question. What else should I upgrade(I assume everything but Sundials) and in what order? I was thinking upgrading Towers to Pillars will make the deck faster since I'll be able to generate more Quanta earlier on, which would help for some gods, but would upgrading spells or shields(Such as the Rain of Fire or the Bonewall and Phase Shield) be more effective? It might be a stupid question, or it may realy not matter, but I'd like to make this deck as effective as possible so I can farm Fake Gods as effectively as possible. Also, what kind of deck would be more effective than this one once I can afford to fully upgrade it? This one is doing fine, but I'm not sure if it's outdated or anything. My deck imagine is below incase anyone could give me advice on what cards to add, take out, upgrade, ect.Don't upgrade the Boneyard, as Elite Skeletons aren't much of a difference and can actually hurt more than help. For example, you put down your Otyugh, but you forget a Quint. Fire Queen uses Eagle Eye to snipe it or a Fire Lance and it takes off 3 hp. Your Otyugh has two hp and you have a few Elite Skeletons on your side, but since they have 2 hp, you can't eat them.Code: [Select]4sa 4sa 4sa 4sa 4sa 4sa 4sa 4sa 4sa 4sa 4sa 4sa 52n 52r 592 5c6 5c6 5f8 5ro 5rp 5rp 5rp 5rp 5rp 5rp 5up 5up 61t 621 621 6qq 6qq 6qq 6u6 74b 74b 7n3 7q5 7q5 7q5 7q5 80h
I see, so I'll keep the Boneyard unupped then, thank you, Sethia.His rainbow is known for its speed with Supernovas. You absolutely need the six Supernovas. I doubt the Purifies will work since they heal so little. If you don't have enough shards, I suggest you take two Empathetic Bonds, though the shards work a LOT better.
I think Puppychow's Rainbow seems to be the deck I'd prefer, since RoL/Hope requires a ton of upgrades, none of which fit with the current ones I have, I beleive. Would Puppychow's deck work with my current upgrades or would I need to think about upping more cards before moving on to that deck? I have enough Shards but I need to upgrade them first before I can even use them and also a Pulverizer, so that's not a problem, but would going in with that deck essentially non-upgraded be a problem(Without the shards of couse, perhaps I could just take 6 Purify?)? I have one Supernova(Won it upgraded from a FG :P), so would I need to essentially get five more of them or does his deck work with just regular Nova's aswell? If I can use it, I expect I'd be using a Time mark instead of Entropy, because I only have one Supernove. Thanks for the help in advance :).
Just remember not to make your deck bigger than 54 cards.What's so special about 54? Decksize can be 60, no? ???
Message to EVERY ONE, this article is very old and is not as good as it used to be. So be for you make this deck, plz go elementsthegame.net/trainer.htmlIt does work, you just have to be able to control it, although admittedly it probably doesn't run as it used to with all the updates...
Message to EVERY ONE, this article is very old and is not as good as it used to be. So be for you make this deck, plz go elementsthegame.net/trainer.htmlAll these decks are extremely good, even though this thread is old. Especially the unupgraded false god deck in the bottom; I still use that deck (upgraded) sometimes when I'm bored.
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Well... what makes it outdated?i think because FGs have different cards now, and the fact their style of play has changed, e.g. SoG>lobo now, changes to plague/RoF no longer waits till 3 are out, more random etc
The deck works fine IMO. I just tried it and I beat Chaos Lord, Obliterator, and Paradox.Well... what makes it outdated?i think because FGs have different cards now, and the fact their style of play has changed, e.g. SoG>lobo now, changes to plague/RoF no longer waits till 3 are out, more random etc
III. Buy new cards
You now have bunch of money that you can buy new cards with. Buy some Pillars and as many high cost/high damage creatures as you can. As you can see from the picture, I bought Grimson Dragons because of their high damage.
already mentioned that but SG probs didn't read my comment :/III. Buy new cards
You now have bunch of money that you can buy new cards with. Buy some Pillars and as many high cost/high damage creatures as you can. As you can see from the picture, I bought Grimson Dragons because of their high damage.
Grimson Dragons.
Edit that. Fix it now. I'm a spelling freak. Don't make me go crazy.
It is quite hard for a new player to gain so much money, enough to upgrade his/her first card on the first day.are you serious? i started last weekend and i already have this deck plus 20+ upgraded cards in inventory
I have played for about 4 months now and I have only upped ONE card (shard)
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I have played for about 4 months now and I have only upped ONE card (shard)
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I tried going with this guide but it didnt work for me. I went with the No Land Stompy deck for farming AI3 and later Top50Code: [Select]4vh 4vh 4vj 4vj 4vj 4vj 4vj 4vj 52q 5f3 5f3 5f6 5f9 5f9 5f9 5f9 5f9 5f9 5fa 5fa 5fa 5fa 5fa 5fa 5fb 5l9 5l9 5l9 5l9 5l9
Once I could afford 6 Rays of Light i sold all my cards to make http://elementswiki.co.cc/decks/anti-false-god-decks/ray-of-light-hope-deck/
and eventually upgraded the rest of the deck playing against FG
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You now have bunch of money that you can buy new cards with. Buy some Pillars and as many high cost/high damage creatures as you can. As you can see from the picture, I bought Grimson Dragons because of their high damage.
no it's crimson and it's been mentioned a lot of times now...III. Buy new cardsIs this a new dragon grimson?
You now have bunch of money that you can buy new cards with. Buy some Pillars and as many high cost/high damage creatures as you can. As you can see from the picture, I bought Grimson Dragons because of their high damage.
I'm thinking maybe we should let the newbies know that upping the starter stallbow isn't a good idea anymore. Perhaps with a link to CCYB? I get a lot of confused newbies who think the old SGbow is still the best.I would have to agree w/ Marisa on this... As a matter of fact, now that there have been many changes to Elements recently, most of these tutorials are obsolete...
Just so you know, in the original post, you put Grimson Dragons, instead of Crimson.Try searching for Grimson and see how many times it has been mentioned. ;)
I normally wouldn't point something like that out, but this guide is so amazing that I just want to bring it that closer to perfect. Also, I expect that this guide will exist for a long while, and thus, I would like it to be fully respected.
I'm thinking maybe we should let the newbies know that upping the starter stallbow isn't a good idea anymore. Perhaps with a link to CCYB? I get a lot of confused newbies who think the old SGbow is still the best.QFT. I just blew 6k on the unupped SG Rainbow (upped a couple of hourglasses with what was left) and lost the remainder of my electrum trying to beat FGs. Now I'm selling it all and switching back to my shrieker rush AI3 grind until I get my electrum back to build a real FG deck.
The starter rainbow deck isnt as useful for FG's anymore, but it is still viable for HB's.. I am suprised at how quickly people give up lolI'm thinking maybe we should let the newbies know that upping the starter stallbow isn't a good idea anymore. Perhaps with a link to CCYB? I get a lot of confused newbies who think the old SGbow is still the best.QFT. I just blew 6k on the unupped SG Rainbow (upped a couple of hourglasses with what was left) and lost the remainder of my electrum trying to beat FGs. Now I'm selling it all and switching back to my shrieker rush AI3 grind until I get my electrum back to build a real FG deck.
EDIT: Went back to the Fire Lance Sudden Killer unupped to farm only certain FGs. Was able to win and sell 2 upgraded cards to re-establish myself. It's simply a better unupped farming deck.
The starter rainbow deck isnt as useful for FG's anymore, but it is still viable for HB's.. I am suprised at how quickly people give up lolI went 50/50 on AI3 trying to learn how to use it. The linked "strategy tips" are for a completely different deck. What good is a shiny new tool if there's no instructions on how to use it?
I didn't need any tips for it... It pretty much plays itself. Quint queen and elf(druid if you upgrade it) play sundial's as needed and when it gets down to 0 cards start using Eternity to continually put a firefly on top of your deck so you dont lose to decking out. Gain life with the bonds.The starter rainbow deck isnt as useful for FG's anymore, but it is still viable for HB's.. I am suprised at how quickly people give up lolI went 50/50 on AI3 trying to learn how to use it. The linked "strategy tips" are for a completely different deck. What good is a shiny new tool if there's no instructions on how to use it?
i dont think 6000 electrum is possible in a day by grinding AI3!!I can tell you, it certainly is, when i first joined, i used this guide and it certainly worked. Once again I thank SG for her awesome guide.
*cough cough* someone forgot graboid...i dont think 6000 electrum is possible in a day by grinding AI3!!I can tell you, it certainly is, when i first joined, i used this guide and it certainly worked. Once again I thank SG for her awesome guide.
Fire or poison rush deck are the fasted grinders no doubt.
Oh yeah that too, cursed memory problems :P*cough cough* someone forgot graboid...i dont think 6000 electrum is possible in a day by grinding AI3!!I can tell you, it certainly is, when i first joined, i used this guide and it certainly worked. Once again I thank SG for her awesome guide.
Fire or poison rush deck are the fasted grinders no doubt.
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You can now UPGRADE A CARD BY PAYING 1.5k Electrum, but don't do it yet.But I haven't all understand...
7. Continue grinding until you have about 6000 Electrum. (yeah it takes some time)
Keep grinding level 3 until you have money to upgrade a couple of cards. The amount of money depends on your skill level. The better player you are, the less money (upgrades) you need before moving to the next phase.
Hello all, I'm beginning this point :Yes thats what it means. I personally think people should start grinding FG or at least HB even before they have 4 upgraded cards, then progressively upgrade utility cards like electrum hourglasses. Less boring IMO. Thats what I've been doing.QuoteYou can now UPGRADE A CARD BY PAYING 1.5k Electrum, but don't do it yet.But I haven't all understand...
7. Continue grinding until you have about 6000 Electrum. (yeah it takes some time)
Keep grinding level 3 until you have money to upgrade a couple of cards. The amount of money depends on your skill level. The better player you are, the less money (upgrades) you need before moving to the next phase.
I don't upgrade any card until I have 6000 electrum? And when I have it, I spend all the money to upgrade few cards, i.e. 4 cards?
I specify that I don't know what does an upgraded card, and my level in English doesn't allow me to understand all the subtleties :)
I hope I made clear
Ok thanks! I also find that it makes a lot of AI3.. but I'm not sure to make more than 50% success against AI4 :/Upgrade your electrum hourglasses first. At least 2 of em. Then make a farming FG deck and win upgraded card spins from em.
I'm thinking about cards I should upgrade at the beginning, but it's not easy, I have 2-3 decks in different elements, and I don't know which one I should focus on! ::)
I have a pretty good one based on Adrenaline and Scorpions/Frog, but I have several possibilities with gravity! Any idea to help me to choose? :-[
I am using this and i am getting beat more then half my games...?Read the post directly above yours.
I am using this and i am getting beat more then half my games...?Read the post directly above yours.