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Re: Oracle : Osiris https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9607.msg1084342#msg1084342
« Reply #156 on: July 02, 2013, 07:25:09 am »
I just won with Lobos and Flayers. I found that relying on either is too risky. I also used the quints to shield his Pharaos from getting Unstoppable. More SoWs would have been nice though.

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Thank you for this deck. I used an almost upped version based on the cards I had lying around.

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I managed to win against Osiris for the first time. I don't have SoW though.

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Re: Oracle : Osiris https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9607.msg1084406#msg1084406
« Reply #157 on: July 02, 2013, 03:04:05 pm »
I just won with Lobos and Flayers. I found that relying on either is too risky. I also used the quints to shield his Pharaos from getting Unstoppable. More SoWs would have been nice though.

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Thank you for this deck. I used an almost upped version based on the cards I had lying around.

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I managed to win against Osiris for the first time. I don't have SoW though.

FYI, next time you see the oracle predicting Osiris, note that the only purpose of the mind flayers in the deck is to substitute for lobotomizers/electrocuters for people who don't have enough of them, since mind flayer is common and lobo is rare. As you do have lobos/elecs, you can completely skip the mind flayers and quints and just do a mono aether, which will be much more stable in general due to not having to deal with multiple types of quanta, and not having to deal with holding mind flayers until you get a quint for them (or alternately deal with getting your mind flayers eaten).

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Just barely beat Osiris with this deck (only 1 upped card).  Even though I had a second turn Lobo, it was really close.  Those scarabs getting momentum bypass the shield, and then the catapults begin....   In any case, best of luck if you try it:

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Feel free to replace the SoWs with an additional dragon and pillars and/or immortals. It should be much more stable than the mind flayer/quint version.

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Re: Oracle : Osiris https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9607.msg1084626#msg1084626
« Reply #158 on: July 03, 2013, 03:59:36 am »
Thanks for the revised deck. It's easier to use just one color.

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Re: Oracle : Osiris https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9607.msg1085267#msg1085267
« Reply #159 on: July 06, 2013, 10:52:49 pm »
I think -1 pendulum +1 pillar should be added to the deck two posts above.

It costs about 20 less :P

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Re: Oracle : Osiris https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9607.msg1087331#msg1087331
« Reply #160 on: July 16, 2013, 02:47:58 pm »
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Ugh, so I tried this out on ole Osiris and behold a SoF appears early and thumps any attempt to drop a phase shield/lobo. I think this deck is out of date and a new deck needs to be implemented.

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Re: Oracle : Osiris https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9607.msg1087341#msg1087341
« Reply #161 on: July 16, 2013, 03:05:32 pm »
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Ugh, so I tried this out on ole Osiris and behold a SoF appears early and thumps any attempt to drop a phase shield/lobo. I think this deck is out of date and a new deck needs to be implemented.

It actually works quite well in general, but it certainly can lose if osiris gets his very small number of sofos at the top of his deck. If he plays an early one, I find it's best to let him just waste it on pillars or something and then play a lobo after it pops. If he gets multiple early ones before you get a lobo, might as well just quit. Completely anecdotally, it seems to me that the upped one is in the ~75-80% win rate range and the unupped one (with the rares) is in the ~60-70% range, though like I said that's not scientific tests so much as just my impression based on using them for (quite a lot of) oracle predictions.

I would certainly love to see a more effective deck, but I haven't seen one yet - Osiris is a pretty difficult FG since he got sofo a while back. If you find a more effective deck, please post it.

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Re: Oracle : Osiris https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9607.msg1087356#msg1087356
« Reply #162 on: July 16, 2013, 05:08:20 pm »
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Ugh, so I tried this out on ole Osiris and behold a SoF appears early and thumps any attempt to drop a phase shield/lobo. I think this deck is out of date and a new deck needs to be implemented.

It actually works quite well in general, but it certainly can lose if osiris gets his very small number of sofos at the top of his deck. If he plays an early one, I find it's best to let him just waste it on pillars or something and then play a lobo after it pops. If he gets multiple early ones before you get a lobo, might as well just quit. Completely anecdotally, it seems to me that the upped one is in the ~75-80% win rate range and the unupped one (with the rares) is in the ~60-70% range, though like I said that's not scientific tests so much as just my impression based on using them for (quite a lot of) oracle predictions.

I would certainly love to see a more effective deck, but I haven't seen one yet - Osiris is a pretty difficult FG since he got sofo a while back. If you find a more effective deck, please post it.
PDials 35 works great for me.  I usually have to use Sundials and/or Arsenic as SoFo Bait in the beginning.  Later, Osiris eats them with Scarabs or just launches them at me.  Easy peasy.
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Re: Oracle : Osiris https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9607.msg1087371#msg1087371
« Reply #163 on: July 16, 2013, 07:06:29 pm »
I'll check when I get home from work, but I'm pretty sure I use either pdials and/or 500hp EM for Osiris with a high win rate.

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Re: Oracle : Osiris https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9607.msg1093468#msg1093468
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Re: Oracle : Osiris https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9607.msg1094045#msg1094045
« Reply #165 on: August 23, 2013, 09:21:44 am »
Lol, i was spammed by 3 sofos in the first 10 rounds, what are the chances...
I will give up on MA vs Osiris.

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Re: Oracle : Osiris https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9607.msg1094081#msg1094081
« Reply #166 on: August 23, 2013, 03:12:48 pm »
Lol, i was spammed by 3 sofos in the first 10 rounds, what are the chances...
I will give up on MA vs Osiris.

Lobo-less mono aether is flat out not even worth attempting against osiris anymore IMO, but if you can add 3-4 lobos to the deck, the sofos become much less of a problem. I mean, you'll still have games where he draws more sofos/faster sofos than you can handle, but more often than not I've found an early lobo pretty much means a win.

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Re: Oracle : Osiris https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9607.msg1094114#msg1094114
« Reply #167 on: August 23, 2013, 04:24:39 pm »
Lol, i was spammed by 3 sofos in the first 10 rounds, what are the chances...
I will give up on MA vs Osiris.

Lobo-less mono aether is flat out not even worth attempting against osiris anymore IMO, but if you can add 3-4 lobos to the deck, the sofos become much less of a problem. I mean, you'll still have games where he draws more sofos/faster sofos than you can handle, but more often than not I've found an early lobo pretty much means a win.
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