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Artois

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Re: Why do we need to save tigers? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=7175.msg78059#msg78059
« Reply #12 on: May 30, 2010, 12:51:45 pm »
...because they are lovely big ferocious kitties, and once they are gone we will miss those cuddly playful little man-eating puddy-tats.
Serious?  We save them to stop them going extinct.  We save them, for tourism, and money.  we save them because we can.  We save them because they are beautiful and fascinating creatures.  We save them because the world would be a duller place without ferocious kitties  :P

Arondight

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Re: Why do we need to save tigers? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=7175.msg78064#msg78064
« Reply #13 on: May 30, 2010, 01:12:36 pm »
It's very hard to answer this seriously.

Have you ever seen how many deaths are caused by deer each year?  ;)

Xoff

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Re: Why do we need to save tigers? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=7175.msg78099#msg78099
« Reply #14 on: May 30, 2010, 02:44:01 pm »
I think we don't need to save them. But if they extinct, we will not know how to make new tigers.
So I vote to keep a few in zoo and in closed  :life nature reserved  :life, and to kill  :death the others.

Artois

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Re: Why do we need to save tigers? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=7175.msg78109#msg78109
« Reply #15 on: May 30, 2010, 03:04:34 pm »
On behalf of tigers everywhere, Im sure if they could vote they wouldnt want to be all killed, and those left alive live in cages/zoos.

How many deaths do tigers cause each year?  Are Fundamentalist Muslims, deer, cars & peanut allergies all responsible for more deaths, cos I'm sure we can make all these extinct?

Xoff

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Re: Why do we need to save tigers? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=7175.msg78111#msg78111
« Reply #16 on: May 30, 2010, 03:14:58 pm »
On behalf of tigers everywhere, Im sure if they could vote they wouldnt want to be all killed, and those left alive live in cages/zoos.

How many deaths do tigers cause each year?  Are Fundamentalist Muslims, deer, cars & peanut allergies all responsible for more deaths, cos I'm sure we can make all these extinct?
You should not put on the same level humans, animals and items. I am pretty sure you can try to get rid of animals and items.
But you can"t get rid of people, cause the problem is never people, but ideas, and ideas are difficult to kill, if not impossible.

Arondight

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Re: Why do we need to save tigers? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=7175.msg78135#msg78135
« Reply #17 on: May 30, 2010, 04:32:00 pm »
Of course they aren't on the same level as humans. You don't see tigers going around forcing their beliefs on people, abuse unrenewable, volatile resources which in turn destroy the environment for personal gain, purposely make other creatures extinct, create weapons of mass destruction, commit violent acts because of how other tigers look (bigot tigers grr), and so forth. By your (Xoff) opinion on if we should save them or not—when humans are the primary cause of their dwindling numbers—we are allowed to kill humans because we know how to make more of them? There's something wrong there.

PuppyChow

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Re: Why do we need to save tigers? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=7175.msg78182#msg78182
« Reply #18 on: May 30, 2010, 05:19:37 pm »
Did you know that for every single person killed by a tiger, 100 are killed by a snakebite?

Maybe we should make snakes extinct then. Once we're done with that we can worry about rigers.

icybraker

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Re: Why do we need to save tigers? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=7175.msg78185#msg78185
« Reply #19 on: May 30, 2010, 05:23:27 pm »
3.575 million people die each year from water-related disease.

The U.S. recorded an average of 10 drowning deaths per day in 2005.

We should get rid of all the water on the planet, because it kills much, much more people than tigers.

Artois

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Re: Why do we need to save tigers? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=7175.msg78242#msg78242
« Reply #20 on: May 30, 2010, 07:25:17 pm »
3.575 million people die each year from water-related disease.

The U.S. recorded an average of 10 drowning deaths per day in 2005.

We should get rid of all the water on the planet, because it kills much, much more people than tigers.
Greenpeace, Save the Water Campaign!

Xoff

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Re: Why do we need to save tigers? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=7175.msg79490#msg79490
« Reply #21 on: June 01, 2010, 01:28:55 pm »
Of course they aren't on the same level as humans. You don't see tigers going around forcing their beliefs on people, abuse unrenewable, volatile resources which in turn destroy the environment for personal gain, purposely make other creatures extinct, create weapons of mass destruction, commit violent acts because of how other tigers look (bigot tigers grr), and so forth. By your (Xoff) opinion on if we should save them or not—when humans are the primary cause of their dwindling numbers—we are allowed to kill humans because we know how to make more of them? There's something wrong there.
A=> B does not imply (not A) => (not B)
It's forbidden to break the out-of-price antic vase because it's unique and can't be made again. But it does not allow you to break your regular
glasses anyway....


But human life is always out of price, and I think it should be considered more precious than anything else. Even if it's true that there is some big, bad and
dangerous darkness  :darkness in a human being. But you know that, as we are all made of the same flesh.

Arondight

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Re: Why do we need to save tigers? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=7175.msg79527#msg79527
« Reply #22 on: June 01, 2010, 02:48:17 pm »
Of course they aren't on the same level as humans. You don't see tigers going around forcing their beliefs on people, abuse unrenewable, volatile resources which in turn destroy the environment for personal gain, purposely make other creatures extinct, create weapons of mass destruction, commit violent acts because of how other tigers look (bigot tigers grr), and so forth. By your (Xoff) opinion on if we should save them or not—when humans are the primary cause of their dwindling numbers—we are allowed to kill humans because we know how to make more of them? There's something wrong there.
A=> B does not imply (not A) => (not B)
It's forbidden to break the out-of-price antic vase because it's unique and can't be made again. But it does not allow you to break your regular
glasses anyway....


But human life is always out of price, and I think it should be considered more precious than anything else. Even if it's true that there is some big, bad and
dangerous darkness  :darkness in a human being. But you know that, as we are all made of the same flesh.
Well, self preservation is understandable. But, killing other life just because you can when there are way more threatening things in this world (examples above and at the first page)? If tigers were some kind of Kung Fu Bear (
) that had a grudge against humanity, then maybe I wouldn't of said anything in regards to the thread. But, personally, I think that all life fights to survive and all that they are trying to do is live. It's eccentric to just kill something when all it does is try to live unless it's a real threat to the safety of your life or others around you; that doesn't mean that I think we should turn a blind eye to these rare events. Often these occurrences can be prevented through management.

My point is that I'm against taking things for granted, whether it be human life or wildlife.

Now if you excuse me, I have an appointment with wildlife for my daily tree hugging session.

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Re: Why do we need to save tigers? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=7175.msg79535#msg79535
« Reply #23 on: June 01, 2010, 03:04:08 pm »
It's forbidden to break the out-of-price antic vase because it's unique and can't be made again. But it does not allow you to break your regular
glasses anyway....

I guess the regular old glass I break pretty consistently about every three days is me doing it wrong? Its a shame, the tinkle they make as they hit the ground is a really nice sound.

 

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