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Other Topics => Off-Topic Discussions => Topic started by: InsignificantWeeaboo on April 29, 2018, 12:52:51 am
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I've discussed this in chat with a couple of people, and we came up with a few ideas:
- 2D Object
- 1D Line
- The Origin (0,0)
I want to know what other people think.
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Mobius strip, or alternatively sphere
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Mobius strip, or alternatively sphere
I would think spheres would have an infinite amount of sides, since the more sides a 3D object has the closer it gets to becoming a sphere. A mobius strip could be a possiblity.
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I kind of like the idea of a sphere, or marble working. Let's say that each side of the die is mandated to have a separate color. When you imagine a sphere, does it have an infinite number of colors, or is it monochromatic? Even if you try to give each point on the spheres surface its own color, the view you get of the sphere will have the colors blending together.
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I kind of like the idea of a sphere, or marble working. Let's say that each side of the die is mandated to have a separate color. When you imagine a sphere, does it have an infinite number of colors, or is it monochromatic? Even if you try to give each point on the spheres surface its own color, the view you get of the sphere will have the colors blending together.
yeah but that's just because of the way our eyes catch the light, that doesn't mean the sides all are the same
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If you want to get geometrically correct a side is never curved so a sphere would have infinite sides. A mobius strip works for me. (EDIT: Wait a mobius strip is also curved so uh... not that either.) If you're not so technical then a sphere is good.
By the way instead of a one sided dice here's a dice with one side.
(https://i.imgur.com/c1GIhmK.png?1)(https://i.imgur.com/jgULwzv.jpg?1)
Strangely enough I didn't find a picture of a dice with a side of food so I had to put two pictures together.
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If you want to get geometrically correct a side is never curved so a sphere would have infinite sides. A mobius strip works for me. If you're not so technical then a sphere is good.
By the way instead of a one sided dice here's a dice with one side.
Strangely enough I didn't find a picture of a dice with a side of food so I had to put two pictures together.
oh hey, good meme
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Thinking of a sphere as being made up of many sides is a flawed way of thinking - using the same logic you can "prove" that pi is equal to four
(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-077tVMIvmlo/T8WXPvWEM-I/AAAAAAAAEmM/GvtoToIOW4g/s1600/pi-4.png)
Also a mobius strip doesn't really have the inherent "flippability" of a coin because it'd just land on its side and the side of mobius strip doesn't really mean anything
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Traditionally, I've seen it described simply as a sphere.
source: someone who owns dice from d3 up to d120.
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d3 up to d120.
You don't have any coins? :P
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I'd say a sphere wouldn't work. A dice only has its face written once, so if the sphere rolled so the '1' was face down it wouldn't be 1 rolled. similarly you could easily write a 2 on the other side and it would almost always be possible to tell which had been rolled, a 1 or a 2.
I would say a shape similar to a 3 d semi-circle, where it was weighted to always land with teh flat side face down, and a 1 on the top of the circle.
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Or alternatively: a buttered bread. ;D
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I'd say a sphere wouldn't work. A dice only has its face written once, so if the sphere rolled so the '1' was face down it wouldn't be 1 rolled. similarly you could easily write a 2 on the other side and it would almost always be possible to tell which had been rolled, a 1 or a 2.
Does it have to have it's face only written once? If not what about if it had a bunch of ones written all over the sphere?
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d3 up to d120.
You don't have any coins? :P
Not after buying all those dice: have any idea how much they cost?
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I know about a 2-sided dice, which has rounded planes:
(https://static.keptelenseg.hu/p/801d036f83f90350618a1121e1269752.jpg)
Following this logic, a sphere might be considered a "1-sided dice".
(I say this without looking at the previous comments, so this idea might have been mentioned or debunked earlier.)
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Traditionally, I've seen it described simply as a sphere.
source: someone who owns dice from d3 up to d120.
Ok, I'm actually curious, what exactly does the d3 look like?
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Traditionally, I've seen it described simply as a sphere.
source: someone who owns dice from d3 up to d120.
Ok, I'm actually curious, what exactly does the d3 look like?
(https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/61dNA4uQaGL._SY355_.jpg)
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You can use a d6 die for a lot of occasions.
AS A D2: d6 [1-3] = d2 [1], d6 [4-6] = d2 [2];
AS A D3: d6 [1-2] = d3 [1], d6 [3-4] = d3 [2], d2: d6 [5-6] = d3 [3];
AS A D5: d6 [1-5] = d5 [1-5], d6 [6] = reroll.
A coin is not a perfect example for d2, because there is a small chance that it lands on its edge.
The closest thing for d1 I think is the "Gömböc (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G%C3%B6mb%C3%B6c)" (rough translation from hungarian would be "sphery" or "spherette"). It has one stable and one unstable point of equilibrium. (Of course, it is not a perfect d1, since because of the unstable point, but the chances are really small for "rolling" that.)
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Put the number 1 on one side of a piece of toast, then butter the other side.
It'll land with the 1 showing every time. One sided die? I think so.
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khm khm
http://elementscommunity.org/forum/off-topic-discussions/what-does-a-one-sided-dice-look-like/msg1276496/#msg1276496
:D
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khm khm
http://elementscommunity.org/forum/off-topic-discussions/what-does-a-one-sided-dice-look-like/msg1276496/#msg1276496
:D
Damn, I knew I should have gone with the cat :P
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We have an idea - you know how some wavelengths or color and sound are too low for us to process? Like infra-red is too low to be perceived as a color for humans and some sound frequencies are too low for us to pick up. What if 1-sided dice is just too low for three-dimensional humans to perceive, so our brains are hard-wired from recoiling from that idea same way we're recoiling from the idea of earth being round or Life being an element?
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same way we're recoiling from the idea of earth being round
Who's we?
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We have an idea - you know how some wavelengths or color and sound are too low for us to process? Like infra-red is too low to be perceived as a color for humans and some sound frequencies are too low for us to pick up. What if 1-sided dice is just too low for three-dimensional humans to perceive, so our brains are hard-wired from recoiling from that idea same way we're recoiling from the idea of earth being round or Life being an element?
At least we know life is round and earth is an element (http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/001/240/139/85d.png)
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problems with your exaple a 2d object whould ba a coin and a line would be invisible so this is my theory
i once saw a strange die this die was a perfect sphere with numbers painted on it in side of the shere was a weight and different pokets fot the weight when you roled it the weight whould change whick pocket the weight was in the weight would then make the shpere put one side up and that would be the number you rolled so that with one pocket would make a die 1
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a sphere is hardly one sided
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there is a difference between a die 1 and a 1 sided object i described a die 1 a 1 sided object is impossible... unless... there is a theory that the mass inside a black hole is considered a perfect point, a 0d object, so with some really wierd logic you could say that that mass has one side
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or simply a loaded die could be considered a die one
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A shape that always "lands" on the same side (it does require a flat surface though)
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/G%C3%B6mb%C3%B6c
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A shape that always "lands" on the same side (it does require a flat surface though)
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/G%C3%B6mb%C3%B6c
hey (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=66008.msg1276515#msg1276515), write-only-user ;)
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