Polls for Mafia 71

[Submachine]

If you don't see the polls yet, I am still creating them.~

I create the polls outside the game, because only moderators can delete polls and I don't want to add unnecessary scrolling to the game topic.

Open for a change:

Spoiler for iancudorinmarian:

Petition to shorten future night phases to 1 day (24 hours).

Spoiler for PlayerOa:

*signs*

Spoiler for kaempfer13:

I thought first round would just be the exception for everyone to get used to their roles. 2 days between using abilities is more than enough (heck it stills takes a month to finish like so). I guess the more time between nightkills the better for town (with night having the downside of giving mafia the stronger moves though), but for time effiency I would still think 1 day per phase (~2 days between use of abilities) is just more appropriate.

Spoiler for ddevans96:

Definitely.

Spoiler for InsignificantWeeaboo:

Agreed

Spoiler for Espithel:

Seconded.

Spoiler for MasterWalks:

Thirded

Spoiler for Mobian:

Agreed, honestly, I feel both phases should only be 24h long.

Spoiler for Ginyu:

The night ending in 24 hours or more. Against it (0) - Not against it (6) - Mobian, MasterWalks, Espithel, Calindu, iancudorinmarian, Ginyu

The night ending earlier if everyone sent in their role uses. Against it (4) - Espithel, Calindu, iancudorinmarian, Ginyu Not against it (2) - Mobian, MasterWalks

The night ending in 2 days or more. Against it (6) - Mobian, MasterWalks, Espithel, Calindu, iancudorinmarian, Ginyu Not against it (0) -

Night ending earlier would crash the schedule which would cause chaos. Nobody loves chaos. Gravity is king.

Spoiler for Calindu:

Yes please, 1 day should be more than enough.

Against the change:

Spoiler for Linkcat:

FGO Note: Sub already tried to shorten the night phase before the game started and I vetoed it. The reason is that since we have players from around the world with busy lives, a single back and forth can take more than 24 hours. This is especially important for the mafia team to decide the Nightkill and ability uses. Longer night phases also keep the game at a reasonable pace. Phases will stay at a 48 hour minimum.

Spoiler for dawn to dusk:

I disagree.

I agree

Spoiler for shockcannon:

Petition to shorten your life, mafia scum.

Unknown:

4. JonathanCrazyJ
5. immortal_feud
13. Coffeeditto
14. mathman101
15. RootRanger
19. moehrpi

Voting format:

The night ending in 24 hours or more.
Against it (0) -
Not against it (6) - Mobian, MasterWalks, Espithel, Calindu, iancudorinmarian, Ginyu

The night ending earlier if everyone sent in their role uses.
Against it (4) - Espithel, Calindu, iancudorinmarian, Ginyu
Not against it (2) - Mobian, MasterWalks

The night ending in 2 days or more.
Against it (6) - Mobian, MasterWalks, Espithel, Calindu, iancudorinmarian, Ginyu
Not against it (0) -

[iancudorinmarian]

Are we all just going to ignore the fact that Linkcat is basically a dictator and ignored everyone's opinion?

I'll bring the torches.

[Submachine]

I did not give up on the idea yet, so after the polls end, I will try to get to an agreement with Link.

One idea I have is that players are allowed to send in their night actions during the day. One problem with this is that the end-of-day results might sway a player's night actions. For this, I can allow conditional night actions, for example:
- If noone dies, I want to target X.
- If one of these 2 people die, I want to target Y.
- If that other person dies, I don't target anyone.

Or even silly shit like the following:
- I want to target the person who has the second most votes by the end of the day phase except if it's Z. Because if it's Z, then I want to target the person who first talks in the night phase.

[Linkcat]

Nah, this is a democratic process, my vote just counts as 20.

[iancudorinmarian]

Are we going to ignore the fact that Linkcat sabotaged the forums so we would forget about 48h night phases?

[Submachine]

We can try the experiment again during the next night phase. This one already has less than a day left.

[Espithel]

Linkcat (1) - Submachine

[Linkcat]

Are we going to ignore the fact that Linkcat sabotaged the forums so we would forget about 48h night phases?

You will if you ever want to play another mafia.

[Submachine]

[10:14:51] ‹Submachine› What do you guys think about a 4-day long night phase?
[10:15:19] ‹vagman13› double nightkill
[10:15:41] ‹ddevans96› no pls
[10:16:09] ‹Submachine› This one really needs a majority vote to be avoided though.
[10:16:14] ‹Submachine› Read the phase post.
[10:17:31] ‹Submachine› I am open to hear different solutions to the problem.
[10:17:57] ‹vagman13› triple nightkill
[10:18:36] ‹ddevans96› yes
[10:18:39] ‹ddevans96› we need polls, no?
[10:19:25] ‹Submachine› I prefer the voting format to know who hasn't voted yet.
[10:19:48] ‹ddevans96› alright, then can you at least bump the polls thread with it?
[10:19:50] ‹Submachine› I plan to speed up the night process as soon as all players are killed who were against it.
[10:20:14] ‹Submachine› Okay, I can do a bump.

So I bump this question again.

Day 2

IMPORTANT DECISION! I cannot update the new phase on Friday and Saturday, so please vote if you want a 1-day long Night 2 and 3-day long Day 3, OR, a super long Night 2 that ends on Sunday.

Day 2 has ended.

At least 14 players should be in favor of the first suggestion to pull it through. I am open to other ideas as well. For example, I can give temporary control to JCJ who is already out.

[ddevans96]

24 hour night 2 and 72 hour day 3 is far, far superior to 96 hour night 2.

[Submachine]

I don't foresee getting enough players to push through the 1-night-3-day scenario, so we should also think about alternative options. The main goal is to avoid having a 4-day long Night phase. That can be achieved in many ways.

An alternative option is to pick a temporary host who people can send their abilities to. This can be anyone who doesn't play, but my first pick would be JCJ.

[Calindu]

I'm good with both 1 day night 2 and 3 days day 3, or temporary host. A 4 days night 2 would be really bad.