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Should the apprentices be paired with their mentors by choosing time slots?

Yes, in the same way that it was in the original program.
2 (13.3%)
Yes, but in a different (or just partially different) way than it was originally.
4 (26.7%)
Not at all.
3 (20%)
No, but maybe yes.
3 (20%)
Couldn't decide, sorry. :(
3 (20%)

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Re: Mentor Program? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=54761.msg1140797#msg1140797
« Reply #24 on: June 18, 2014, 09:10:35 am »
As someone who has seen the last Mentor Program

I can see this crash and burn.
Well Dm1321 if you want I could make the other mentors a service and become your mentor  ;)

Makes me wonder who'd be the one getting taught.
Probably wouldn't work.

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Re: Mentor Program? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=54761.msg1140799#msg1140799
« Reply #25 on: June 18, 2014, 10:05:43 am »
As someone who has seen the last Mentor Program

I can see this crash and burn.
You are one very pessimistic person.

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Re: Mentor Program? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=54761.msg1140857#msg1140857
« Reply #26 on: June 18, 2014, 05:26:26 pm »
As someone who has seen the last Mentor Program

I can see this crash and burn.
This project can just work, if enough experienced player join it.
Having masters and ex-masters as mentors is probably the best thing to start with. With you and Blacksmith, we'd already have 2. :)
This being said, we're having more hope than Dm thinks, but because Dm has exact knowledge about the old mentor program, I have to ask him:
Why was it so bad? Which are the parts we should avoid this time?
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Re: Mentor Program? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=54761.msg1140900#msg1140900
« Reply #27 on: June 18, 2014, 08:29:25 pm »
I don't know whether I'd be a mentor or a student but regardless, I'd love to see this program up and running. Perhaps if a person isn't experienced to be a mentor, they could serve in some adviser position, specializing in something perhaps.
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Re: Mentor Program? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=54761.msg1140949#msg1140949
« Reply #28 on: June 18, 2014, 11:07:36 pm »
Somewhere it has been agreed that the mentor program didn't succeed because there wasn't a clear instruction guide for the mentors to make the students follow a step-by-step advancement, from total noobs (or the step where they are when they start as students) to decent deckbuilders in arena, AIs and restricted metagames.

If someone takes the job to make a good and open step-by-step guide that mentors can follow to guide the students, we can start to speak about the mentor program in a serious way. Before that, we have nothing.

I am interested in resurrecting this project, but I won't have time probably until next Friday. Thanks Submachine for making this thread.
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Re: Mentor Program? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=54761.msg1140953#msg1140953
« Reply #29 on: June 18, 2014, 11:29:19 pm »
Somewhere it has been agreed that the mentor program didn't succeed because there wasn't a clear instruction guide for the mentors to make the students follow a step-by-step advancement, from total noobs (or the step where they are when they start as students) to decent deckbuilders in arena, AIs and restricted metagames.

If someone takes the job to make a good and open step-by-step guide that mentors can follow to guide the students, we can start to speak about the mentor program in a serious way. Before that, we have nothing.

I am interested in resurrecting this project, but I won't have time probably until next Friday. Thanks Submachine for making this thread.

The idea here is to act more like a hub where noobs can find people with the time to help them. Each mentor would do things the way they saw fit.

If the idea is doing the program the way you are describing then I agree with dm.
« Last Edit: June 18, 2014, 11:30:53 pm by andretimpa »
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Re: Mentor Program? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=54761.msg1140973#msg1140973
« Reply #30 on: June 19, 2014, 01:20:49 am »
If someone takes the job to make a good and open step-by-step guide that mentors can follow to guide the students, we can start to speak about the mentor program in a serious way. Before that, we have nothing.
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Re: Mentor Program? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=54761.msg1141094#msg1141094
« Reply #31 on: June 19, 2014, 04:47:23 pm »
If someone takes the job to make a good and open step-by-step guide that mentors can follow to guide the students, we can start to speak about the mentor program in a serious way. Before that, we have nothing.
This. This is what I'm gonna focus on from now on then.
I imagined this to be more sort of a guideline. Since every student is different it would be strange to teach the same things to all of them. I imagined my Mentor ship to adjust to what the student wanted and with my experience I'll guide that person there.
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Re: Mentor Program? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=54761.msg1141101#msg1141101
« Reply #32 on: June 19, 2014, 05:49:17 pm »
If someone takes the job to make a good and open step-by-step guide that mentors can follow to guide the students, we can start to speak about the mentor program in a serious way. Before that, we have nothing.
This. This is what I'm gonna focus on from now on then.
I imagined this to be more sort of a guideline. Since every student is different it would be strange to teach the same things to all of them. I imagined my Mentor ship to adjust to what the student wanted and with my experience I'll guide that person there.

also, this is what we have tutorials for

EDIT:
What I'm saying is that it's not useful to make detailed guidelines for all mentors to follow because we don't know what apprentices we'll come across.
« Last Edit: June 19, 2014, 05:58:28 pm by andretimpa »
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Re: Mentor Program? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=54761.msg1141110#msg1141110
« Reply #33 on: June 19, 2014, 06:50:21 pm »
Is this a mentor program to the game?
Because the entire game is kind of short and doesn't have that much content at all.

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Re: Mentor Program? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=54761.msg1141114#msg1141114
« Reply #34 on: June 19, 2014, 07:09:14 pm »
Is this a mentor program to the game?
Because the entire game is kind of short and doesn't have that much content at all.
I think it's intended to be a mentor program for the game and the forum.

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Re: Mentor Program? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=54761.msg1141246#msg1141246
« Reply #35 on: June 20, 2014, 03:21:25 pm »
i'll mentor imperator83
don't worry, he knows :P
I got him to join the forum.

note that i'll help, with or without being an official mentor. just like most.
the only 'use' of an actual program is showing new players those that are willing to help.
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