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Re: LOL. Epic Kongregate stupidity. https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=8873.msg104399#msg104399
« Reply #12 on: June 30, 2010, 06:24:17 am »
Eh. After a while, you just shrug off the trolls and smartalecks on Kongregate.

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Re: LOL. Epic Kongregate stupidity. https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=8873.msg104401#msg104401
« Reply #13 on: June 30, 2010, 06:25:01 am »
This stuff happens all the time.

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Re: LOL. Epic Kongregate stupidity. https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=8873.msg104484#msg104484
« Reply #14 on: June 30, 2010, 09:05:59 am »
SG, in some ways, it is wiser to lock trolls then to delete'em. That way other trolls can immidately see the way they'll be dealt with (somewhy many smartasses tend to think they are the first genius trolls "on this green field" when they see a totally clean space).
Ah, and besides, it saves the fun for people to keep looking up and laughing.

"He stole everything! I had a game and a site! Unfortunatelly my site is gone, and the code I had on old hard drive that went bust, but I will find a proof and show it to you!!!!!!!"

Jesus, I love that.

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Re: LOL. Epic Kongregate stupidity. https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=8873.msg104498#msg104498
« Reply #15 on: June 30, 2010, 09:58:29 am »
SG, in some ways, it is wiser to lock trolls then to delete'em. That way other trolls can immidately see the way they'll be dealt with (somewhy many smartasses tend to think they are the first genius trolls "on this green field" when they see a totally clean space).
Ah, and besides, it saves the fun for people to keep looking up and laughing.
I see topics like that as slander, and they should be removed immediately. Kongregate should protect the rights and reputation of people who contribute and make them money (aka Zanz). They shouldn't give these trolls the opportunity to spread lies without a shred of proof. Yes, 99% of people will know that those claims are total BS, but there's always that 1% of people that believe everything they read.

I had a similar experience on Kong not long ago, where an individual spread lies about me. It's a difficult situation because you are almost forced to respond, but in doing so you are kind of lowering yourself to topic starters level. In these cases moderators need to step up and do their jobs by getting rid of these topics. Although free speech is great, it doesn't mean you can go around accusing people of stealing or lying without any proof.

Unfortunately moderators on Kongregate are either incompetent or weak.

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Re: LOL. Epic Kongregate stupidity. https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=8873.msg104710#msg104710
« Reply #16 on: June 30, 2010, 06:11:23 pm »
Unfortunately moderators on Kongregate are either incompetent or weak.
Only the tools are weak, and Kongregate tend to be weak for all his moderation (chat, forum, comments, etc...) ^^'

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Re: LOL. Epic Kongregate stupidity. https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=8873.msg104761#msg104761
« Reply #17 on: June 30, 2010, 07:06:54 pm »
Wasn't there some collectible card game (though not a computer game) out that had some of these pics? Maybe the guy tries to claim copyright for those. Total failure, but fun.

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Re: LOL. Epic Kongregate stupidity. https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=8873.msg104777#msg104777
« Reply #18 on: June 30, 2010, 07:23:02 pm »
About the Kongregate Moderators, they really do try.  The thing about the Elements forum on Kongregate is that it is a very small part of the whole thing with a small niche of players, so mods can only do so much.  Even if the thread was libel, it wouldn't have gone anywhere legally.

Also, Elements doesn't make Kongregate that much money.  Games like Gemcraft or Bloon Defense 4 do.
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Re: LOL. Epic Kongregate stupidity. https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=8873.msg104797#msg104797
« Reply #19 on: June 30, 2010, 07:46:27 pm »
About the Kongregate Moderators, they really do try.  The thing about the Elements forum on Kongregate is that it is a very small part of the whole thing with a small niche of players, so mods can only do so much.  Even if the thread was libel, it wouldn't have gone anywhere legally.

Also, Elements doesn't make Kongregate that much money.  Games like Gemcraft or Bloon Defense 4 do.
The way I see it, trying is not good enough.

I would have understood if mods hadn't seen the topic and nothing was done about it. That's understandable if they have tons of other forums to look after too. But the thing is that mods DID see that topic, and instead of deleting it, they only locked it. That's simply being incompetent or too scared to act.

I don't know the exact numbers, but Elements has been on Kong for a long time now, so I wouldn't be surprised if they had made $1000+ with the ads in Elements (they take a HUGE cut of the revenue). Now whether or not that is a lot of money is of course debatable, but they sure should respect independent developers (that bring them money) enough to get rid of trolling/lying topics like that one.

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Re: LOL. Epic Kongregate stupidity. https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=8873.msg104873#msg104873
« Reply #20 on: June 30, 2010, 09:31:44 pm »
As an aside, the exact cut of the profits from Kongregate is 45%, so long as you have API.  People who work for armor games get paid $5 in exchange for waiving all rights over the game.  Kongregate is by far the best option out there.

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Re: LOL. Epic Kongregate stupidity. https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=8873.msg104881#msg104881
« Reply #21 on: June 30, 2010, 09:39:18 pm »
I saw this thread and lol'd so hard.

Re: LOL. Epic Kongregate stupidity. https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=8873.msg104912#msg104912
« Reply #22 on: June 30, 2010, 10:00:29 pm »
What a tard...

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Re: LOL. Epic Kongregate stupidity. https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=8873.msg104928#msg104928
« Reply #23 on: June 30, 2010, 10:15:41 pm »
I have to step up and agree with Scaredgirl.

The Moderators on ANY part of kongregate, Whether forum or chat, are a bunch of A**Holes. They dont get paid for their job, and if they do they suck balls for it, so they dont really care about their positions. None the matter though, for even if your aren't 'Paid' for your job, you should still try to show some respect. Little children who go so far as accusing Zanzarino of theft, violating of copyright, or by extention violation of federal law, deserve nothing more than to be locked away in juevanile(?) facilities immediately. I have had bad experiences with moderators on the site and in the chatroom, so I would know about there stupidy and douchebaggery. Yes, kongregate is a fun little game-dumping ground where people upload their game for their friends to see, but when it comes to staff personnel,  they are a bunch of fat lazy douchebags who dont care for anything but themselves. They are on a 24/7 power trip, and need to be demoted and replaced with sensible people who accually give a damn. Sorry for my rant, thats all I have to say about Kongregate staff.

On the other hand, Kongregate itself (The website) is an excellent place and I give it a 5/5 :D!

But the staff gets a -5/5 from me. >:|

 

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