[POLL] Which Cards are Overpowered? 1.30

[Siweisun]

Why is dusk antle up there when fog isin't?

[RootRanger]

Dusk mantle blocks 10% more damage, which is pretty significant. It means the Fog Shield user 120% as much damage as the dusk mantle user. Also, darkness has healing to make it even harder to finish them off.

Nevertheless, neither of them are overpowered.

[plastiqe]

Why is dusk antle up there when fog isin't?

(POLL) Which cards are OP? 1.24 to 1.25
Dusk Mantle
     11 (2.4%)
Fog Shield/Improved Fog
     7 (1.5%)

Cards with less than 2% of the vote were eliminated from the poll.

[Bhlewos]

Voted "None" because personally I don't see anything particularly OP about any of them. Discord, Earthquake, and Black Hole are all mostly only effective against rainbow decks and not so much mono decks -- I hate them when I use the former, but when I use the latter, I can pretty much ignore them. As for Shard of Gratitude, considering you need to win it from a T50 and then spend 1500 to upgrade it, I think the 5 HP per turn effect is pretty fair.

[silux]

Counter to quinted momentumed creature doesnt exist.
A counter exist;sundial

Also, its not Oty that was ever OP, its quinted Oty.
Quinted otyughs still have counters;poisonous creature,high costitution creatures

IMO Elements is funny because it isn't balanced.
All deck-building is about finding an over-average effective combo and making it more reliable and deadly as possible.

Steal got nerfed by upping cost by 1 quanta? Steal destroys your opponents permanent AND gives it to you. Insanely cheap.That's why I use it.There are hidden cost however;it uses a card and the permanent has to be targetable.Cloak is a great steal nerf
Explosion costs 1 quanta? Sure, I'll wait that 7 quanta to play my Permafrost/Carapace... oh wait, boom.That's why you shouldn't use thorns against fake gods.You need bazookas!

And currently, actual card playing needs no almost no skill at all. The skill is in the deck building. In fact, in some ways, things such as quicksands prowess or supernova's power results in the only skill needed (play 1 tower at a time against earth decks, black holing at the right time, etc). Otherwise playing the cards is largely skill-less.Agree.But fake gods require also timing and luck since their decks are optimized

No one here is discussing magnitude of possible nerfs. No one here is even discussing nerfs. People here are discussing balance. Zanzarino is the one that should consider nerfs. However more we are the better i believe

Would that give you less building options or more building options?I prefer few strong decks than many weak decks.So if fractal is op, then buff other card.Fractal then should be the archetype of how much powerful cards should be.Mindgate is a great card that shares the power of fractal.

Balance does not mean equal decks.True!

[dcshuzon]

each element has Tower and Pendulum to set in deck now, if nerf Earthquake/Quicksand, it will be totally useless. ???

the most imba card is Sundial !!

[willng3]

Counter to quinted momentumed creature doesnt exist.
A counter exist;sundial

Also, its not Oty that was ever OP, its quinted Oty.
Quinted otyughs still have counters;poisonous creature,high costitution creatures

IMO Elements is funny because it isn't balanced.
All deck-building is about finding an over-average effective combo and making it more reliable and deadly as possible.

Steal got nerfed by upping cost by 1 quanta? Steal destroys your opponents permanent AND gives it to you. Insanely cheap.That's why I use it.There are hidden cost however;it uses a card and the permanent has to be targetable.Cloak is a great steal nerf
Explosion costs 1 quanta? Sure, I'll wait that 7 quanta to play my Permafrost/Carapace... oh wait, boom.That's why you shouldn't use thorns against fake gods.You need bazookas!

And currently, actual card playing needs no almost no skill at all. The skill is in the deck building. In fact, in some ways, things such as quicksands prowess or supernova's power results in the only skill needed (play 1 tower at a time against earth decks, black holing at the right time, etc). Otherwise playing the cards is largely skill-less.Agree.But fake gods require also timing and luck since their decks are optimized

No one here is discussing magnitude of possible nerfs. No one here is even discussing nerfs. People here are discussing balance. Zanzarino is the one that should consider nerfs. However more we are the better i believe

Would that give you less building options or more building options?I prefer few strong decks than many weak decks.So if fractal is op, then buff other card.Fractal then should be the archetype of how much powerful cards should be.Mindgate is a great card that shares the power of fractal.

Balance does not mean equal decks.True!

Please note that the quote you are addressing was made almost a year ago; the game has changed significantly with new strategies/cards since then.

I myself voted for Discord, Graboid and Supernova.  But seeing as how this was before a few rather gamebreaking cards were released, I may need to revise my vote.

[sane1271]

a good portion of the shields are way overpowered in the amount of quantum they cost, increase cost of most shields

[TheForbiddenOracle]

EQ, nuff' said.

[Antagon]

voted

Reverse Time: most overpowered! cheap with only 1 upgraded, so you can splash it in every rush deck, and it often happens, when rush vs rush, the one with the reverse time wins. cause it makes opponent lose one turn (he spend quantum and no new carddraw), but often more, cause now low on quantum. it makes dragons in decks not that often.

DuneScorpion: too much luck, getting it out with damage first or 2nd round is too bad, dont want to have purify in all of my decks. too strong effect, 1 for every card played.

EQ: 1 for 3, no way (with sense) to counter? => with 2 pillars instead of 1 or cost of 5 , it would be better, for more heavy quanta decks

[ryalia888]

I agree that Earthquake should be changed. Would it be wise to have earthquake have some effect on the user as well? Like also destroying a pillar of their own

[adrix89]

I agree that Earthquake should be changed. Would it be wise to have earthquake have some effect on the user as well? Like also destroying a pillar of their own

How about pillar destruction is random from 1-3? maybe with 1-2 of there own?