Poll

Which cards are OP?

Antimatter
10 (2.6%)
Bone Wall
6 (1.6%)
Black Hole
25 (6.5%)
Devourer
11 (2.8%)
Dimensional/Phase Shield
31 (8%)
Discord
15 (3.9%)
Earthquake/Quicksand
24 (6.2%)
Graboid/Elite Graboid
21 (5.4%)
Ghost of the Past
15 (3.9%)
Gravity Nymph
12 (3.1%)
Nova/Supernova
7 (1.8%)
Pandemonium
7 (1.8%)
Purify
2 (0.5%)
Purple Nymph
6 (1.6%)
Quantum Pillar/Tower
8 (2.1%)
Reverse Time/Rewind
20 (5.2%)
Shard of Divinity
1 (0.3%)
Shard of Focus
87 (22.5%)
Shard of Readiness
7 (1.8%)
Shard of Sacrifice
60 (15.5%)
None of them
11 (2.8%)

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Re: [POLL] Which Cards are Overpowered? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=4031.msg157069#msg157069
« Reply #120 on: September 12, 2010, 08:14:33 am »
"Also, I would like to add a card to that poll if possible:  Quantum Pillars/Towers.  Those things desperately need to be nerfed in a big way. "

NOOOO!!!!

Indeed, Quantum towers are widely used, but not because they are powerful. They are not. They generate 1/4 of quanta per turn per element on average as opposed to regular tower generation of a whole quantum. That means you can play every card in your hands four times slower than in a mono deck. Playing Rainbow with QT is very very slow to start, and unless you manage to distribute all you card equally in all 12 elements, whichever element you draw multiple cards from, you won't have enough quanta for those. QT is also random : it increased the factor of luck significantly, providing more luck related losses for you.
QT are so slow at start that without either Supernovas and Sundials(stall for more quanta for free), rainbow decks would be probably useless.
Most games I lose with a supernova based rainbow are lost due to not having enough quanta to play my cards...you don't always draw those supernovas, and QT is too slow.

The reason why QT is played is not its power level.
QT is played because there is no alternative.
Each element has only 5-6 mono card, and another 5-6 cards that need a second element to be useful (like Dune Scorpion, Forest Spirit, Lava Golem, Lycantrope, etc). This is very limited. If people need certain abilities for their deck or want to use some combos, chances are, they'll be from different elements, and they need to use a minimum of 4-5 elements to build a good deck, and at that point, using QT is a better alternative than towers/pendulums : it can provide quanta from the remaining 8 elements...and since it doesn't work well with just 4-5 elements, you'll include more.


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Re: [POLL] Which Cards are Overpowered? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=4031.msg177847#msg177847
« Reply #121 on: October 16, 2010, 07:13:31 pm »
More ppl think Quicksand is more overpowered than SoG? Really?

Re: [POLL] Which Cards are Overpowered? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=4031.msg194087#msg194087
« Reply #122 on: November 05, 2010, 11:53:42 am »
in the case of dusk mantle...
it doesn't work like this:
you have 10 creatures that have a damage more than 0, this is not how it works
that 5 monster attacks will land a hit and 5 creatures will land a miss.
that 50% applies in every monster of your opponent INDIVIDUALLY and NOT as a GROUP.

yeah! i also admit it that the EQ is powerful but not OP.
imagine 6 EQs in your opponent = up to 18 pillars/ towers/ pendulums/ can be destroyed, which could completely shut down a deck.even it only effects the pillars. and not the other permanents. there is still a card that can prevent it. the protect artifact.
but if you are still annoyed with the opponents that uses EQs. then why use a pillar deck.
nova + cremation rush deck is one of the way to face the EQs..
but by using that deck, a new ability will annoy you again, the BlackHoles.

as you can see. every deck has its own weakness and strength.

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Re: [POLL] Which Cards are Overpowered? 1.26 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=4031.msg229501#msg229501
« Reply #123 on: December 20, 2010, 09:00:02 pm »
Updated for 1.26

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Re: [POLL] Which Cards are Overpowered? 1.26 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=4031.msg234052#msg234052
« Reply #124 on: December 27, 2010, 12:32:43 pm »
dune scorp??? seriously???

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Re: [POLL] Which Cards are Overpowered? 1.26 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=4031.msg234117#msg234117
« Reply #125 on: December 27, 2010, 03:12:15 pm »
dune scorp??? seriously???
One single hit and your opponent continues to poison himself. Some people see that as OP.
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Re: [POLL] Which Cards are Overpowered? 1.26 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=4031.msg234157#msg234157
« Reply #126 on: December 27, 2010, 04:20:39 pm »
I love how Discord is winning when it's practically worthless again any generic rainbow deck. :D

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Re: [POLL] Which Cards are Overpowered? 1.26 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=4031.msg234175#msg234175
« Reply #127 on: December 27, 2010, 05:09:59 pm »
dune scorp??? seriously???
One single hit and your opponent continues to poison himself. Some people see that as OP.
i know that but still the poor guy can't even atack without help... and a purify would do the trick and the scorp it's easly destroyed... if anything, it needs a defense buff or something

Re: [POLL] Which Cards are Overpowered? 1.26 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=4031.msg266233#msg266233
« Reply #128 on: February 07, 2011, 05:22:14 am »
Ummm... Devil's advocate here for a minute...

Won't everybody just be voting for cards that counter their strategies well or strengthen the FG's?

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Re: [POLL] Which Cards are Overpowered? 1.26 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=4031.msg266243#msg266243
« Reply #129 on: February 07, 2011, 05:39:35 am »
Ummm... Devil's advocate here for a minute...

Won't everybody just be voting for cards that counter their strategies well or strengthen the FG's?
FGs can be balanced by modifying their decks (i.e. Dark Matter can be made less aggravating to all decks if the Gravity Nymphs were taken out of his deck).

Ideally, balancing should be done for PvP purposes.
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Re: [POLL] Which Cards are Overpowered? 1.26 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=4031.msg276142#msg276142
« Reply #130 on: February 22, 2011, 06:14:01 am »
 ^-^ i hate graboid's ability .. it enters the field barrowed so i cant do anythin to stop it turning to shrieker ..  ..

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Re: [POLL] Which Cards are Overpowered? 1.26 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=4031.msg278979#msg278979
« Reply #131 on: February 26, 2011, 02:24:33 pm »
It's curious that Mindgate isn't in this list. While it's hard to judge if it's actually OP or not (it's a bit on the expensive side), it is incredibly devastating when used by a rainbow deck (since ANYTHING you pull is immediately playable) - if you have e.g. 3 of them in play in mid- to late-game, you get 3 copies of your opponent's card while he only gets one, which is very hard to beat

and this includes pillars, so even with a mono-aether deck you will (eventually) gain the ability to use your opponent's cards

Level 5 Aether-based AI should *own*, and it mostly doesn't because it almost never uses these things .

 

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